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skijake
09-08-2001, 07:36 PM
Unocal has done us in again.
AS a lot of you are aware the premium fuel in California is now 91 Octane.
It was announced this week that starting in October the premium fuel in Arizona and Navada will be lowered to 91 Octane.
The reason behind the lower octane is Unocal 76!!!! So you may want to think twice before using there product.
When California wanted to make a cleaner burning gasoline which is now know as RFG or reformulated Gasoline. All the major gas companies sat down with the state so they could have some input to how we could phase it in and would beable to produce it. The refineries spent billions of dollars to convert over to MTBE and to the specs. that where required by the new law.
When the meeting was over Unocal took all the information and required specs and ran down to the patent office and patented what was just agreed to.
The rest of the major oil companies sues Unocal but by law they could do it (it went as high as the supreme court), they even ammended the patent because other companies had to devulge how they could blend around it.
The Federal Trade Commission has finally stepped in to investagate the method that they used to get the patent. This will take at least 18 months for a ruling
Any gasoline that fall within the patent Unocal gets close to 6 cents per gallon. They have sold all their refineries and making the money on the patent.
The part of the patent that was the hardest for the refineries to stay away from is the 92 plus octane specs. Costing oil companies millions of dollars every year.
Most refiners use a common pipeline from a company named Kinder Morgan. They all have to buy and trade gasoline to make up for shortages during maintance work or problems.
It was voted by most companies to get around the hard to blend premium fuel that they would lower premium octane to 91.
Now the same thing has been extended to Arizona and Navada starting October 1.
When California lowered there octane you heard nothing from the news or any group. Now with it extending if we don't raise a voice we may loss 92 octane across the U.S.
I myself boycott buying any Unocal products.
There are other ways to get high octane besides Union 76 racing fuel (see 100 octane posting under blower section).
Maybe if enough people spread the word we can make a differance.
Also you may think that this will not effect you because you use all av-gas or use regualor fuel.
Reg. is the 75% of the market at 87 octane. If the octane is lowered to 86 octane the other oil companies will get around paying the 6 cents a gallon. So don't think that that has not be discussed.
Remember, do not help Unocal get rich.

driveless
09-10-2001, 06:57 AM
It looks like the FTC is investigating Unocal because of this issue.
check out:
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010910/n10252182_1.html

twistedpair
09-11-2001, 09:42 PM
So what happens to the warranty on my Pontiac GTP which specifically says to use 92 octane?
Originally posted by skijake:
Unocal has done us in again.
AS a lot of you are aware the premium fuel in California is now 91 Octane.
It was announced this week that starting in October the premium fuel in Arizona and Navada will be lowered to 91 Octane.
The reason behind the lower octane is Unocal 76!!!! So you may want to think twice before using there product.
When California wanted to make a cleaner burning gasoline which is now know as RFG or reformulated Gasoline. All the major gas companies sat down with the state so they could have some input to how we could phase it in and would beable to produce it. The refineries spent billions of dollars to convert over to MTBE and to the specs. that where required by the new law.
When the meeting was over Unocal took all the information and required specs and ran down to the patent office and patented what was just agreed to.
The rest of the major oil companies sues Unocal but by law they could do it (it went as high as the supreme court), they even ammended the patent because other companies had to devulge how they could blend around it.
The Federal Trade Commission has finally stepped in to investagate the method that they used to get the patent. This will take at least 18 months for a ruling
Any gasoline that fall within the patent Unocal gets close to 6 cents per gallon. They have sold all their refineries and making the money on the patent.
The part of the patent that was the hardest for the refineries to stay away from is the 92 plus octane specs. Costing oil companies millions of dollars every year.
Most refiners use a common pipeline from a company named Kinder Morgan. They all have to buy and trade gasoline to make up for shortages during maintance work or problems.
It was voted by most companies to get around the hard to blend premium fuel that they would lower premium octane to 91.
Now the same thing has been extended to Arizona and Navada starting October 1.
When California lowered there octane you heard nothing from the news or any group. Now with it extending if we don't raise a voice we may loss 92 octane across the U.S.
I myself boycott buying any Unocal products.
There are other ways to get high octane besides Union 76 racing fuel (see 100 octane posting under blower section).
Maybe if enough people spread the word we can make a differance.
Also you may think that this will not effect you because you use all av-gas or use regualor fuel.
Reg. is the 75% of the market at 87 octane. If the octane is lowered to 86 octane the other oil companies will get around paying the 6 cents a gallon. So don't think that that has not be discussed.
Remember, do not help Unocal get rich.

skijake
09-11-2001, 10:02 PM
If I was you I would raise hell. Write the FTC. Write the oil companies. Write Kinder-Morgan. Write and call the news stations.
Let it be known.
If noone complains it will just keep happening.