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Boater Bill
12-09-2001, 06:12 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/004/us/dv/WM/h186375.jpg
Wow it worked! NDBA meet @ Long Beach Marine stadium, May '69. Charger hydro running in unblown gas hydro. Chuck Skaggs owner/driver. Check out the whitewalls on the trailer! The only remaining pic of all I took as a kid. This started my fever!
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72 superlite
12-09-2001, 10:02 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/010/Hu/cQ/eV/gB88705.jpg 1968 Ladner B.C. Ed Ewers Sanger Shovelnose.

72 superlite
12-09-2001, 10:08 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/005/3K/Sr/HG/kw64328.jpg
Ray Caselli in Panic Mouse 1970ish

72 superlite
12-09-2001, 10:12 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/018/nK/IE/LF/cl54151.jpg
Don Dues Krazy Konaca Circle boat. 1971

boatguy222
12-10-2001, 08:08 AM
Hey,Superlight
do you have any pictures of Krazy Konaca with the K-boat engine it?
Thanks
Marc

72 superlite
12-11-2001, 10:48 PM
No, I don't think I do. You must be up here in the NW if you know that boat.

72 superlite
12-11-2001, 10:54 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/015/Ew/LM/VE/c675954.jpg
My dads first race boat, a 1965 Olympic Craft,with a 470 cubic inch Hemi he bought from Walt Austin.

boatguy222
12-12-2001, 02:10 PM
yes,
I am a northwest guy, my dad rigged several Schiada flatbottoms in that era. He did the SK-4 Tweetie Pie boat and K-51 Puppy Chow. both ran in about the same time as Krazy Konaca ran super stock. Don went on to hold the compition record for K-boats at about 104mph, that is flyin in these little boats.
Marc

superdave013
12-13-2001, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by 72 superlite:
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/018/nK/IE/LF/cl54151.jpg
Don Dues Krazy Konaca Circle boat. 1971
That trailer is pimpin! It's more plush than my whole boat!

72 superlite
12-13-2001, 08:58 PM
http://f1.webshots.com/icache/co/38/79/26813879fXCfLLrJmCthumb.jpg---
Picture from 1970 NBDA National Championship Fuel and/or Gas Races Program at Long Beach.

72 superlite
12-13-2001, 09:01 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/024/un/zG/7Q/q023529.jpg
Size does matter!!

72 superlite
12-13-2001, 09:04 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/017/6C/1I/vS/kz25044.jpg
K boat at Spanaway Lake mid 70's

boatguy222
12-14-2001, 04:00 AM
Hey Superlite,
Is that boat the Green Dragon?
Marc

72 superlite
12-14-2001, 09:50 AM
No thats not the Green Dragon. If I remember right ( the pic wasn't marked ), I think my dad said that it's one of Don Dues later rides. I do remember the Green Dragon boat though. Saw it flip at Lake Samamish in the 70's. I seem to remember it being white with a dragon going down the sides.
rick

72 superlite
12-14-2001, 09:53 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/035/CA/g8/Pr/hH54463.jpg
Heres one of Don Dues early rides. A SS boat called the Bitter End.

72 superlite
12-14-2001, 10:00 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/032/DO/gB/FU/hR74541.jpg
I believe this is the same guy as the first pic posted. This was a pretty wild design, almost like a bat boat. In fact someone built a similar one later and called the Bat Boat. As you can see by the caption, the first one came to a tragic end. Anybody remember this one?

superdave013
12-14-2001, 11:23 AM
72 superlite, Keep posting, I love this stuff! Great thread!

Boater Bill
12-14-2001, 02:49 PM
Holy shit...we never got the full story on Chuck's accident. He was my dad's best friend. He a call about 2am one night from another friend saying he had heard on the radio that he was killed. Said he broke the motor, prop locked and boat crashed. It was his first ride/run in blown fuel. Dad was crushed and pale for days afterwards. Chuck was a character and as a teenager I idolized him (Mom wasn't to happy about that). Thanks for the pic, will print this thread and pass it on to my folks. What was the date on the article?

72 superlite
12-14-2001, 04:15 PM
Glad you guys are enjoying these. The date of the above clipping should be about 6/7/70. I have another small clipping that I will post later, about the same crash.

boatguy222
12-14-2001, 04:58 PM
SUPERLITE,
I WAS AT THAT RACE AND SAW THE CRASH, IT WAS NASTY, THE TAIL HOPPED AND IT NOSED UNDER AND DESINAGERATED.
VERY GOOD PICTURES KEEP IT UP.
MARC

72 superlite
12-14-2001, 07:57 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/035/ii/Y0/lz/jV41203.jpg
Conquest TFH at Seattle Custom Auto Hot Boat and Speed show, 1968

72 superlite
12-15-2001, 07:35 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/028/yo/zw/Ua/3y73909.jpg
Heres the other little article about the Manta Ray Crash. Dated 6/7/70

Riptide01
12-16-2001, 04:33 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/034/gw/It/6s/Zm73676.jpg
Dads old marlin flatbottom on our way to Parris CA.
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Riptide01
12-16-2001, 04:52 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/032/5r/SK/ND/1w51724.jpg
Another shot that superlite72 didnt have.
Hey Rick..
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Riptide01
12-16-2001, 08:04 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/032/5r/SK/ND/1r83313.jpg
This was taken in 1985 at the Phoenix world finals. This was a Sanger factory TFH.
I think Bob Mcintire was the owner/driver.

72 superlite
12-18-2001, 09:33 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/029/Wq/bU/fY/VM86272.jpg
Another picture from the 1970 Long Beach program. Anybody else got old pictures, would love to see them.

72 superlite
12-18-2001, 09:36 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/022/ZG/m0/BF/VT34203.jpg
Larry Schwabenland in the Sanger WhiteMist 1969ish.

72 superlite
12-18-2001, 09:40 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/041/B5/6A/uF/VI36812.jpg
The 72 Sanger Runnerbottom I now own, when it was my dads race boat.Injected 427 chev.

Thunderbutt
12-19-2001, 12:42 PM
Boater Bill or superlite. Do you remember Citation 1 & 2 owned and driven by Renee' Andre' (Maddox). The motor that put Renee upside down also put Ray Caselli and Panic mouse in the weeds and beyond. Or the Mortician with inline small blocks that was towed by a hearse. I think he was killed at parris. The 60's and 70's had some colerful drivers in a very dangerous sport with very little payback except bragging rights.

Boater Bill
12-19-2001, 05:37 PM
Everyone - great pics, they bring back fond memories and I remember most of the boats shown/mentioned. Panic Mouse always kicked butt, I saw (I think) the first 200mph run in drag boats by Mr. Ed. This was a charger hull also I believe. Conquest, Citation, and the others I remember also. Thunder you're right, back then they ran for nuthin' but braggin rights basicly. I remember once at Long Beach these BFH guys we were hanging with were po'd that they had lost on a red light in eliminations and there was a lot of talk flying. A grudge match was set up (money on the line) and these guys went out and fireballed the motor but drove it through the lights and beat em! They were so jazzed, didn't care that they probably spent 5 X the $ they won on the bet. Whens the last time you saw a grudge match? Good times!

superdave013
12-19-2001, 07:28 PM
Bill, They are not racing for much more today! You go boat racing because it's in your blood. not for the money.
When I won blown gas flat (NJBA) I got a cheap plastic trophy and a check for 236 bucks!
Yes, the pics are great. Thanks for starting the thread and thanks to everyone for posting.
72superlight, It's pretty cool that you still have your dad's old race boat.

Riptide01
12-19-2001, 09:13 PM
Hey Superdave,
Ask 72superlite to tell the story of how he got Dads boat back. Turns out it was about 5 miles from where are Dad put it together.The guy that had it swore up and down that the hull was a 76 or newer. What he didnt know was we recognized Dads fabricated aluminum pieces, still in the boat, and we had the serial number to compare. After so dickering about the price. The guy agreed to sell. What was really cool was when Dad saw the boat again after nearly 30 years. Oooops I told the story..

Riptide01
12-19-2001, 09:16 PM
Oh yeah thats 72 superlite in the drivers seat of that green metalflake marlin.
He got it in his blood early.

Thunderbutt
12-20-2001, 02:07 PM
Boater Bill, You're right about the grudge matches. And as I remember, any Boat that raced that day could challenge the top fuel boat and if you couldn't make it to the line or broke going down the strip you lose.
Is that still in the rules? When Renee won the top fuel race he got 300.00$. And by the time we got home it was spent

superdave013
12-20-2001, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Riptide01:
Oh yeah thats 72 superlite in the drivers seat of that green metalflake marlin.
He got it in his blood early.
And are you the kid in the blue shirt?

Riptide01
12-20-2001, 06:22 PM
Hey Superdave,
Yep that would be me. The older brother.
The one who is going to paint this bad toy superlite is restoring. Aren't big brothers great..

72 superlite
12-21-2001, 07:53 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/020/fk/hj/G1/5D14018.jpg
Hey Boater Bill, I believe the first 200mph dragboat was Crisis, a Sanger hydro, in Perris, Ca., Saturday, September 13th 1969. If my sources are correct.

Boater Bill
12-21-2001, 08:03 AM
Superlite, you could be right. I've huffed a lot of nitro fumes and my memory ain't that great!

72 superlite
12-21-2001, 08:37 AM
Ah yes the smell of nitro, unfortunately I have to get my nitro fix up here at the NHRA event once a year. Dragboat races are hard to come by up here in Wa. We have made it to Red Bluff a couple of times in the last 3 years though. Keep on posting this stuff, even though I was 2 in 1969, I love the old stuff.

72 superlite
12-21-2001, 08:40 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/003/1k/Ll/TU/5I81386.jpg
Another pic from the 1970 NDBA Long Beach Program.

superdave013
12-21-2001, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Riptide01:
Hey Superdave,
Yep that would be me. The older brother.
The one who is going to paint this bad toy superlite is restoring. Aren't big brothers great..
I don't know about that. My older brother used to kick my ass when I was a kid. I got him back when I nailed his girfriend! lol
Oh, he's a crappy painter too!

Thunderbutt
12-21-2001, 03:03 PM
Superlite,I don't think 200 MPH came in 1969 I think they were still in the 180's maybe 190's. I thought Hill broke the 200 mark.

old rigger
12-21-2001, 03:31 PM
Really enjoying the pictures and the stories.
Like I've said eariler, where I grew up, six doors down lived Howard Brown for a few years. His shop wasn't to far down Lakewood Blvd. in Paramount. Anyway, when I was working for Howard boats years later after he sold to Willen, he would still come around the shop to collect his check, as he was carring paper on the deal. He would tell some stories if you caught him in a good mood and the one I remember the most was when he started losing his buddies, crashing the shovel nose hydro. Motors were getting more and more powerful and the speeds got greater than the Hydro could handle. I don't recall which death was the last straw, but one day he pushed the molds out in the center of the parking lot, squirted lighter fluid over it and burnt it to the ground. Had to be hell to have so many friends die in his boats.

Riptide01
12-21-2001, 04:45 PM
Hey Superdave,
Rick could probably kick my ass now ,so I leave him alone.
He has seen my paint work ,so he is being nice too. Brotherly love...
We are both trying to track down some more old pictures. I have a few more from the 1985 World Finals at Phoenix. What are we calling old and/or new?

G.Riggins
12-21-2001, 09:04 PM
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Riptide01
12-21-2001, 09:27 PM
O.K. For the daily double , Who drove Smoke on the Water?

72 superlite
12-21-2001, 09:36 PM
From what I have found,Crisis BFH, driven by Gary Gabelich was the first to 200mph. It happened in Perris in '69. It may not have been an official record( not backed up ) I don't know. 200 mph in '69 wasn't that far off, Climax BFH driven by Larry Schwabenland was the APBA-UIM world record holder in June of '68, with a 190.27 mph

72 superlite
12-21-2001, 09:46 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/024/eH/ny/yd/cl62170.jpg
Another old newspaper clipping.

superdave013
12-22-2001, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Riptide01:
Hey Superdave,
Rick could probably kick my ass now ,so I leave him alone.
He has seen my paint work ,so he is being nice too. Brotherly love...
We are both trying to track down some more old pictures. I have a few more from the 1985 World Finals at Phoenix. What are we calling old and/or new?
What are we calling old or new? Well, I moved out west in 1985. Never went to a drag boat race before that. So all this history is cool with me. I don't care, just keep putting them up.
About brotherly love. You know it must be Brotherly love when you can tell he's smilling from the shape of the back of his head while while he is pulling you on an innertube!

72 superlite
12-22-2001, 08:22 AM
Frank Dade drove Smoke on the Water, Was ther others also?

Riptide01
12-22-2001, 08:39 AM
Hey Superlite,
I thought Sam Kurtavich drove Smoke on the water to some kind of a record.
See ya at Christmas..
Happy Holidays to everyone of us V-Drive Lovers..

Riptide01
12-22-2001, 09:19 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/003/rp/5q/u1/UI80852.jpg
Panic Mouse at its best..

Riptide01
12-22-2001, 09:24 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/025/7W/ad/kb/UV11546.jpg
Climax Hydro, From Sanger Boats brochure.
Back when you raced what you sold..

Riptide01
12-22-2001, 09:27 AM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/016/wa/Zb/2G/Vd54177.jpg
Jokers Wild , Also from Sanger brochure.

RH
12-22-2001, 03:57 PM
Came across this while surfen around . This would make a nice stocking stuffer $7500 !
http://www.jetboatperformance.com/badlands.htm http://www.jetboatperformance.com/images/badland4.jpg
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G.Riggins
12-22-2001, 04:30 PM
The new guy.
I might be wrong but I think Smoke on the water was the first to break the 200 mark in the quarter.

72 superlite
12-22-2001, 04:35 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/020/O9/l5/rl/Hu31882.jpg
Miss British Columbia, Driven by Tommy Tucker Fults, A Sanger, with a blown fuel chrysler. Larry Schwabenland came up to the NW and drove this boat in the early 70's.

Fired Up
12-22-2001, 09:44 PM
Smoke on the Water was not the first boat to break 200mph. It did break the then current record of 202 with a 203 mph pass with Sam Kurtovich driving at Long Beach. Sonny Jones was the original driver, but had crashed the smoke boat at Bakersfield a month or so before and ended up with a brokem arm and some bruises. I have the world record pass on 8mm film. I was just a kid on the pit crew for the boat and several others that Irv Brendel had. Frank Dade also went on to drive the boat later. I have some original photos hanging in my garage I will try to scan and put up here.

Riptide01
12-22-2001, 09:55 PM
Wasn't it Gary Gabilich that first broke 200 mph? I am not sure of the boat name, Think it was at Perris, CA.

Costello
12-23-2001, 09:23 AM
Gary Gabelich WAS the first 200 mph pass at Perris CA in 1969 in the CRISIS BFH. If I recall correctly, he was later killed about 1 year later in Oregon in the same boat. This same Gary Gabelich also drove AA Fuel Dragsters in the 60's.

72 superlite
12-23-2001, 09:48 AM
http://www.psnw.com/~geo/crisis1.jpg
This is Crisis at Oakland in 1970. Driven by Ted Holden. It was he who was killed in this boat in Eugene, Or. in 1971

Stab-n-Steer
12-23-2001, 10:36 AM
Well I might as well add my 2 cents... Gary Gabelich was not killed in the Crisis boat. He went on to set the land speed record driving the famous "Blue Flame" rocket car. Not sure what year but he went 622 mph to break Craig Breedlove's record and held the record for several years until the the guys from England broke it... Gary made 38 passes at over 600 mph in the Blue Flame! Later Gary was was almost killed in Orange County testing a front wheel drive funny car. Tragically, Gary was killed in a motorcycle street accident about 10 years ago. Gary's trademark when he drove dragboats was the big feather plume he wore on his helmet. (See below) I never met Gary but I know some of his friends and by all accounts he was a wildman...
S&S
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/020/fk/hj/G1/5D14018.jpg

72 superlite
12-23-2001, 08:29 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/009/D7/YE/Pz/Hw50756.jpg
Porky Pig Flatbottom, from 1970 NDBA, Long Beach program.

boatguy222
12-23-2001, 09:15 PM
superlite,
I was at the Crisis crash in Eugene too, My dad was commidor of the boat club at that time, It was the last boat race on Fern Ridge Res. due to the crash. Everything moved to Dexter Res. where they still run today.
Marc

058
12-24-2001, 10:16 AM
Great thread guys....Who was the guy killed at Lake Tahoe driving a jet or rocket powered boat? Late 70s or early 80s. He was running about 285mph when it broke apart.

old rigger
12-24-2001, 10:58 AM
I think it was Lee Taylor that was killed at Tahoe. If I remember right, they never found his body. That lake is deep, something like 1600ft.

Stab-n-Steer
12-24-2001, 11:24 AM
Old Rig,
You are correct, It was Lee Taylor driving the jet boat called "Hustler" designed and built by Rich Hallett. Lee was critically injured in the boat in 1964 on Havasu during a test outing. I have some pictures of that wreck I'll try to scan and post.
Randy

spectras only
12-24-2001, 12:12 PM
the sad thing about Lee was,the day before his death ,he went 315MPH unofficially.He apperently hit an object with the right sponson or just buried it in a small wake.

Costello
12-25-2001, 07:32 PM
Superlite, Thanks for the correction and now that you mention it I do recal it was Ted Holden driving in Oregon not Gary. Stab n Steer, I remember a Cub Scout outing to the Blue Flame shop when I was a kid, I did not remember that Gary drove the car.

old rigger
12-26-2001, 12:53 PM
Stabber,
I have a pretty good article somewhere about that boat , the Hustler, when it was new. Beautiful boat. I think it was sponsered by Renoylds alum. or some company like that. This was about 63 or 64.
But what was the boat he was driving later and killed in at Tahoe? I don't think it was the same Hustler as that one.
I met Taylor some time around '73. My dads friend, Jimmy Jines, had a paint shop in Bellflower called California Customs back then, and he painted one of Taylor's cars. He called us up to come over and meet him cause he knew we liked boats and my dad also knew Hallett (slightly). Taylor was scared from the results of a former crash, must be the one you mentioned, and he might have even had a glass eye. I'm just guessing, but one of his eye sockets was really messed up.
Jines also painted Linda Lovelace's car once, both cars, hers and Taylors were VW's oddly enough, around that same time and he called for me to come over to meet her as well. I know that it's got nothing to do with boats, but it was pretty cool. He called just about every guy he knew to come on over when it was time for her to pick up her car. Shop was full of guys just hanging around. Kinda funny looking back on it.

spectras only
12-26-2001, 07:03 PM
0-R ,I'm positive ,Taylor's boat was a brand new boat,designed especially to beat Warby's record.It was like a cigarette with sponsons,[3 point hydro style].When I saw the boat before the record runs,I seriously thought he's going to have problem with it ,unless the water was like a mirror.I'm going to try to dig up an article on Lee Mizer's rocket powered boat ,which he hasn't run ,probably due to the shape of the boat[like a small spaceshuttle with a joystick rather than a rudder].That boat was calculated being capable of upward to 500 MPH ,hence the vertical stabilizer and joystick to fly the sucker above the water surface.I'm affraid Craig Breedlove's dream is shattered by Noble,and he might be the next casuality to try to beat Noble's record.

Stab-n-Steer
12-27-2001, 06:31 AM
Old Rig,
Wow, Linda Lovelace! That was the first XXX movie I ever saw (Deep Throat). I think I was a senior in high school and we had to go to San Francisco to some seedy theater in the tenderloin district. All I remember is that it was creepy and my feet kept sticking to the floor. Must have been from people spilling their cokes... I think PeeWee Herman was sitting behind me.
Anyway, here is a couple of shots of the original Hustler when it crashed at Havasu in April of 1964. Lee was severly injured in this wreck.
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/041/HP/OA/OA/6X26577.jpg

Stab-n-Steer
12-27-2001, 07:05 AM
Another shot from the same article...
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/039/jC/f6/OP/dS43968.jpg

HYDROMOBILE
12-27-2001, 11:13 AM
FIRST 200MPH RECORD WAS MR.ED Jim

72 superlite
12-29-2001, 12:23 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/002/Lg/1B/iz/Hw66081.jpg
Novacaine Flatbottom, Goerge Braden, From NDBA program 1970

72 superlite
12-29-2001, 08:00 PM
http://wsphotofews.excite.com/041/v6/GJ/Us/ER39148.jpg
One of the Baddest Flatbottoms of all time. #245f Jokers Wild.

spectras only
12-30-2001, 10:37 AM
OK guys ,who was the first to pass the 200MPH mark on land? I have the clipping to post it later.Just want to see how many of you agree on that one http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif Ps; please submit name of the car and engine application if you have it http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif
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pgf127rt
12-30-2001, 12:46 PM
Spectra, if it was the first on land, it would probably be Campbell in the Bluebird, don't have a clue to the engine but being he was from England, maybe a Rolls, like the p-51 airplane used.
If you are asking about the 1/4 mile, my guess would be Don Garlits in the Swamp Rat, Hemi power, late 50's or early 60's

spectras only
12-31-2001, 02:30 PM
sorry not being specific ie; dragboats/cars,here it is. http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/eddyhilldragster.jpg Remember Hill held the record on water for a long time at about 229MPH.Also remember him stating the fact dragboat racing is more dangerous than dragcar racing,the reason he went back to cars.

spectras only
12-31-2001, 02:36 PM
BTW,I've thought it was Don Garlits as well http://free.***boat.net/ubb/confused.gif!

pgf127rt
12-31-2001, 02:54 PM
spectra, I remember that car at the world finals in Tulsa, Okla. in 65 damn, being a Texan you would think I could remember that, oh well at my age CRS is normal, thanks for the great clip.
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rrrr
12-31-2001, 03:00 PM
The old Sleekcraft ad brought back some memories. My first boat, I drove from Houston out to LA in 1980 to pick it up from the factory.

old rigger
12-31-2001, 03:34 PM
Found some of the boat stuff I was looking for:
In 1941 John Cobb went just over 200 in a boat but was killed on the return run, so no record was set.
1955, Don Campbell went 202.32, a new record.
Roy Duby went 200.419 in '62 in a Unlimited Hydro, the first prop driven boat to go over 200.
Lee Taylor went 250 in 1964 at Lake Havasu, but crashed the 'Hustler" . No record.
In 1968 he went 255, this time setting a new record.
In 1980, driving US Discovery II, he went 269.85 in Lake Tahoe but was killed in another run before he got the record.
Almost forgot....HAPPY NEW YEAR
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old rigger
12-31-2001, 03:50 PM
Spectras only,
I can't figure out who was the first to go 200 on land but I know the land speed record in 1933 was already 203. Frank Lockhart was trying to break the record at Daytona Beach (in a Stutz powered car) when he crashed his car for the second time. The first time he crashed he was going 220, he was slightly injured. He rebuilt the car and was killed when he crashed it the second time at over 200mph in April of 1934.
John Cobb set the land speed record in 1934 at 352 mph. A few hours later another guy, Captain G.E.T. Eyston, went 357 and set a new record. Talk about ruining your day!

pgf127rt
12-31-2001, 04:26 PM
Old Rigger, thanks for the info, I remembered that the 200 mph mark was done very early in the automotive age, and also that Daytona was the destination of a lot of early speed guru's.

spectras only
12-31-2001, 06:57 PM
OR, my unspecific quiz http://free.***boat.net/ubb/eek.gif was about 1/4 miles time ,since most of the posting [old pics]was about that.We have a friend in england who is an engineer and was involved building the Bluebird [?],when we went to Beauliu [sp]where Bluebird resides ,he pointed out, that did the first legit landspeed record at 200. http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/bluebird.jpg

pgf127rt
01-01-2002, 05:12 AM
Maybe there is some hope for this computer on my shoulders, thanks Spectra.

old rigger
01-01-2002, 11:12 AM
Spectras only,
Yeah, I knew you were talking about the 1/4 mile records. I just thought I'd throw in some completly usless info about land speed stuff. Great pic by the way.
I don't know about the first "legit" thing. All the records set here in the states back in the early days, teens, 20's and 30's were set under the supervision of the American Automobile Association (AAA) and are official records. Anyway, I know your friend is much more knowledgable on the subject than me. I just like reading about the stuff, boats and cars.
It's always interesting to compare the American boats and cars to the English one's too. Always thought the English boats looked so bulky and odd, but they sure hauled ass.
More usless stuff....In 1927 the English had the land record at 174 mph. Done with a car with a huge 1,360 ci engine. When Lockhart went after the record here in Ca., in the same year at Muroc dry lake, he ran 171 mph. Not quite enough to get the record. In his car he ran a 91 ci supercharged Miller, giving up over 1,100 cubic inches to his rival. Of course Miller later was known as Offenhauser.
Useless, useless stuff.........

old rigger
01-01-2002, 11:12 AM
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old rigger
01-01-2002, 11:14 AM
sorry, double clicked.

spectras only
01-01-2002, 01:26 PM
Hey OR, that's not useless stuff, it's good reading. You're right about the english hardware [always homely looking http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif].Campbell's boats looked bulky too.I'm not in defence of the limey blokes,but their bulky machine sure beat the previous landspeed record.Maybe Craig Breedlove shouldn't focus on beautifully slimlined single engined crafts http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif

72 superlite
01-07-2002, 08:09 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v2/5/64/1/25456401OiUiQZFRYf_ph.jpg
OK, this topic has gone way too far down the topic list. I guess its time to fire up the scanner again. I'm running low on the old stuff, so maybe I'll start with my Red Bluff pics. Heres what happens when the motor seizes and you don't have a whirlaway.

72 superlite
01-07-2002, 08:13 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v3/3/86/42/27438642QrdcgRmLDl_ph.jpg
Or when your shaft slides out of the coupler and into the rudder.

72 superlite
01-07-2002, 08:16 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v1/3/88/27/27438827AukXUDTUhv_ph.jpg
This goes with the above pic.

future boater
01-07-2002, 08:18 PM
72 suprelite,your the man. posting all these old pictures, anyways i apprecite it. thanks

72 superlite
01-07-2002, 11:02 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/9/52/31/28795231lGTXIDCWPx_ph.jpg
An ad from about 1970.

72 superlite
01-09-2002, 10:08 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/9/51/63/28795163ssbzfMGXjI_ph.jpg
Another old ad. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

72 superlite
01-09-2002, 10:17 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/0/5/87/28800587KbmHaEIGPz_ph.jpg
This is from a race at Capital Lake, in Olympia Wa. , in the early 70's http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

72 superlite
01-09-2002, 10:23 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/9/53/34/28795334TaGeWVBGHS_ph.jpg
From a race at Capital Lake, in Olympia Wa. early 70's http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

72 superlite
01-09-2002, 10:44 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/9/49/77/28794977WnkmxAvGxp_ph.jpg
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

MRIRONASS
01-10-2002, 10:19 AM
marine staidum,1969 larry hill. drove mr. ed
to first 200 mile in quarter, it was past 5:00 p.m. so race board had to get city fathers, to ok a back up run for record. i belive the 2nd. run 203&change. and the first run was 201&change. also it could have been 1970. but it was one of the two. yes i was their. MRIRONASS

72 superlite
01-10-2002, 10:56 AM
Thought we already settled this. Gary Gabelich In the Sanger BFH Crisis made the first 200mph pass. It was at Perris Ca., and I believe it was in the last session on Saturday afternoon. Like Sept. 13 1969 if I remember correctly. Don't think it was backed up, but it was the first. My dad was there, didn't see the pass, he was on the other side of the berm working on his boat. He told me he heard the boat make a strong pass, then heard the crowd go wild. He scurried up the berm and saw the history making numbers on the scoreboard. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif

Stab-n-Steer
01-10-2002, 04:49 PM
From the May 1964 issue of Boating News...
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v4/9/67/47/28996747XusfnRhEAi_ph.jpg

Costello
01-10-2002, 07:01 PM
72, Yes we settled it, Gabelich DID run the first over 200 mph pass at SkiLand. Larry Hill in Mr. Ed However held the first over 200mph record in NDBA and this record stood for some 5 years. BTW in 1969 I was i year old so I don't remember, and I wasn't there. I was at home about 45 minutes away in Upland tucked in my crib with a teddy bear. PS IronAss, I believe it was 1970 at Marine Stadium.
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MRIRONASS
01-11-2002, 10:36 AM
i was hoping my memory, was ok, now that i am 62,it slips a bit. they were fun day.ray,
007 larry the shoe in climax, crowds would
line the beach. i still have hondo rb, sanger mini cruiser, both, are cherry. once you get into it , you cant get out.
MRIRONASS

72 superlite
01-13-2002, 02:49 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v4/4/78/9/28947809tkYrpLPqDf_ph.jpg
ad fom 1970 http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

72 superlite
01-15-2002, 05:40 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/0/3/19/28800319fqjCOeuYKi_ph.jpg
Anybody recognize this boat from the early to mid 70's. This was taken at Spanaway Lake, in Tacoma, Wa. I guess the other pics don't come up because of the address change at webshots. Lets see if this works.

72 superlite
01-15-2002, 05:54 PM
http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/0/4/91/28800491KuPABZLWYq_ph.jpg
Since it is now 2002, I guess '99 classifies as old drag boat pics. Two Dollar Pistol from Red Bluff 1999. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/cool.gif

72 superlite
01-15-2002, 05:57 PM
OK I give up! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/mad.gif