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anchored
03-23-2002, 04:43 PM
I have heard about the nickles between the v-drive and prop shaft. Should there not be any space between them? I have enough space to put probably 4 nickles between them.
Thanks for any and all advice.

schiada96
03-23-2002, 07:38 PM
I don't think you should have any gap between the output shaft of the v-drive and the propshaft. Fill the gap with something.

Costello
03-23-2002, 08:06 PM
Why won't the propshaft but up against the output shaft of the V-Drive? Not enough keyway? I'm with 96, put the nickels in just enough to fill the gap anyhow. The reason nickels are used as shims is to fine tune the handling setup of a boat. With the previous problems you described in regards to handling, it sounds like you are a long ways from worrying about this stage of the game. From the sounds of what you described before (pull left, pull right), the last thing you want to do is have more keyway cut in that shaft and bring the prop forward. Going back is your safest bet at this stage of the game. With that little bite on the shaft with the coupling, I better ask this question..... You are running a safety collar on the prop shaft aren't you? If not do so. You do not want that shaft that is halfway in the collar coming out and smacking you rudder at speed. You'll be on the deck at best, and the boat will sink with a gaping 1" hole in the bottom of the boat at the shaft log.

boat030
03-23-2002, 08:17 PM
HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!! i think instead of just filling the gap i would find out why the propshaft won't go all the way into the coupler, and even before you do that measure where the prop is so if you get the propshaft to go all the way in you can get it spaced back out to where the prop is now and then you can address your handling problems from there. It is definately not safe to run the way it is now.

anchored
03-23-2002, 09:17 PM
Well, no there is no collars on the propshaft.I dont know why it wont but up against the output shaft, I have never tried to move it. You are saying not to move the shaft forward but also not to have any gap,one of the two has to give.Is my boat toatally set up wrong or is something wore out, and where do I start?

Dans66Stevens
03-24-2002, 05:03 AM
Sounds like the prop shaft is to short.

superdave013
03-24-2002, 06:55 AM
I have one question. How much gap is there between the prop and the strut?
And yes, sounds like your boat has some set up issues.

GofastRacer
03-24-2002, 07:27 AM
When the shaft is all the way up, you should have about an inch from the back of the strut to the taper if not, the shaft is too short or the V-Drive was moved forward. That may be the reason for bad handling???....A safety collar on the shaft is about the cheapest part on the boat and it could save you from a world of hurt, PUT one on..My .02c..

Thunderbutt
03-24-2002, 07:27 AM
I was told you should have a small space between the output and the drive shaft to keep it from vibrating. You have to have safty collars to keep the shaft from sliding and it shouldn't tuch the shaft log as it will vibrate.

GofastRacer
03-24-2002, 07:37 AM
Thunder, you should not have a space between the shafts, they should butt together,that has nothing to do with vibrating, if there's a vibration, there's another problem?? If the collar touches the the log, it will wear log seal housing, I have about an 1/8 inch space between the collar and the log....

V-Drive Tom
03-24-2002, 08:01 AM
Anchored,
How far is the prop from the strut? Is there not enough keyway to move it forward? Get a Damn safety collar on it!
If the plates are in a way down position, and the prop too far back. The boat will be nose down, glued in and at higher speed try to lift the rear... THIS GUY IS PETRIFYING ME!!
Anchored if your not just yankin us around, please call me and I can help you over the phone if you would like. Could also give you the number for a drag boat racer somewhere near you to put a TEXAS EYEBALL on it! You can call me Tom Bentley at Menkens V-drives. (530-885-0531)
Nobody on this page wants to here that you went out and destroyed the thing, so put your BEST eye on it, and lets make it right.

Thunderbutt
03-24-2002, 08:28 AM
Gofast, I'm not talking about the bolt flange. I'm saying the prop shaft shouldn't touch the out-put shaft of thr v-drive.

pgf127rt
03-24-2002, 08:35 AM
anchored, as Tom said there are people close to you who can help with the setup, Tony Anderson cf154@yahoo.com is in Cleburne and knows how to setup a flat in a safe manner or snowman069@hotmil.com of Performance Marine can steer you in the right direction, and I am in Granbury, I think I still remember how to set one up, so if you need help just ask, advice is free, a wrecked boat is expensive and hazardous to your health.

Costello
03-25-2002, 11:22 AM
JDL, You were just the guy I was going to volunteer! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

pgf127rt
03-25-2002, 03:09 PM
Thunderbutt, on the flats that I ran, if the propshaft was not deadended on the output shaft the horsepower would have forced it forward and changed the handling characteristics while on a pass and if that happened at sub 8 second run's in excess of 140 mph I don't think it would have been very nice to watch, or be sitting in the seat, the shafts should contact each other, either with nickels or shaft to shaft.

SK48
03-25-2002, 07:05 PM
anchored... buy a safety collar and a good lifejacket. Please

boat030
03-25-2002, 07:58 PM
pgf127, maybe you've stumbled on to something. the faster you go the farther the prop gets pushed underneath the boat and the looser it gets???? what do you think????
2quick

Costello
03-25-2002, 08:12 PM
And then if you drove one handed it would be like a RODEO. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/tongue.gif

boat030
03-25-2002, 08:51 PM
YEAH, YEAH, and you could tie your other hand too the steering wheel like the bull riders. ok who thinks they could last 8 sec.

superdave013
03-25-2002, 10:29 PM
Just don't velcro your foot to the down pedal.

Costello
03-26-2002, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by V-Drive Tom:
Anchored if your not just yankin us around, please call me and I can help you over the phone if you would like.
If I hadn't done most of the stuff Anchored has done in my V-Drive lifetime, http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif I'd be 100% sure he was just yanking us around here too. As of now the jury is still out as to if this is real, or just a great laugh. The deciding factor is going to be if he calls you or not Tom. Please let us know if he does, we are all on the edge of our chair waiting to find out. (This is almost like a soap opera for guys! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/tongue.gif)

GofastRacer
03-26-2002, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Thunderbutt:
Gofast, I'm not talking about the bolt flange. I'm saying the prop shaft shouldn't touch the out-put shaft of thr v-drive.
That is what I meant and like pgf said, with enough power, the shaft will move up, not good!!....

GofastRacer
03-26-2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Costello:
If I hadn't done most of the stuff Anchored has done in my V-Drive lifetime, http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif I'd be 100% sure he was just yanking us around here too. As of now the jury is still out as to if this is real, or just a great laugh. The deciding factor is going to be if he calls you or not Tom. Please let us know if he does, we are all on the edge of our chair waiting to find out. (This is almost like a soap opera for guys! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/tongue.gif)
I'll second that!!!........

pgf127rt
03-26-2002, 05:49 PM
030. I had enough bull riding in that yellow bitch without creating other problems, like changing the prop to plate distance while in flight, gives me chills just trying to imagine what that ride would have been like,probably terminal.
[This message has been edited by pgf127rt (edited March 26, 2002).]

boat030
03-26-2002, 09:57 PM
pgf127, i know the feeling i've gone through the lights sittin' in the passenger seat a couple times myself. not good http://free.***boat.net/ubb/frown.gif the v-drive is not so good on the butt bone http://free.***boat.net/ubb/eek.gif

Heads up
03-27-2002, 12:31 AM
New engine, more power, first race at Chowchilla of 2000'. Need I say more 030??

boat030
03-27-2002, 07:57 AM
heads up, yeah that one was ugly http://free.***boat.net/ubb/frown.gif

Jetboatguru
03-27-2002, 09:36 AM
Don't worry Mike, there are guys with less power that can't get their boat down the course. You did well, Except for being Lipnski's Biatch.

boat030
03-27-2002, 10:57 AM
jetGu, where you been??? are you going to ming next weekend. My wife wants to know if you want her to give you some softball lessons in between rounds at the next race?? she says she won't charge you very much $$$.

anchored
04-03-2002, 08:36 PM
I am really not pulling yalls chain or anything and I dont want to wreck my boat or get hurt. I am just trying to figure out how to fix it. I do appreciate the concern. I will give you a call Tom. Hopefully I can hook up with somebody in the area to look at it and maybe take it for a ride if I didnt scare everybody away from it.
Thanks for the help.

V-Drive Tom
04-03-2002, 08:56 PM
Anchored...No problem,call any time. I just know that you TEXAS boys have a good sense of humor and you like to use it on us CALIFORNEEE guys! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif

Heads up
04-04-2002, 08:34 PM
Mike I wasn't bagging on you with my post. I'm sorry if it came out like I was.

boat030
04-04-2002, 09:19 PM
i didn't think you were. even if you were i have thick skin when it comes to my driving ability. that comes from all of jetGu's constructive criticism http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif

Heads up
04-04-2002, 10:49 PM
Constuctive critisim?

anchored
04-05-2002, 09:16 PM
Soap opera for guys? Commedy? I am not sure yet. But I do know its not going to be a horror movie. I hope it turns into more of a boy gets boat, boat hates boy, boy saves boat,boat loves boy, happily ever after story.

Costello
04-07-2002, 06:16 AM
Glad to know that you weren't hoaxing us here. It's happened before a time or two http://free.***boat.net/ubb/redface.gif. Keep asking questions until you get this thing handling better and setup a little safer. If you haven't yet, take up Tom's offer and call him. He won't sell you anything you don't need. You may not need much at all, but it does sound like your propshaft is too short or needs to be broached at least.