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Then think about this, since I am dealing with people knowledgeable of Islam and the guy was a praticing Muslim for 27 years..
This is called assuming facts that are not in evidence. I have read all the right wing accusations about Obama's ties to Islam. They are shakey at best. As a good "objectivist" I require a lot more evidence than the inuindo they provide. I am a proud member of the political right. One if the things I like about the "Conservative" approach to doing things is that it involves being thoughtfull, thinking things through, and not jumping to conclusions based on assumptions or other types of weak data. The inuindo used to link Obama to Islam pretty much meets my definition of weak data. Sorry Steve 1, I agree with your points most of the time, but I'm not with you on this one.:)
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Obama's 2 primary religious "advisors" he has history of having arround, are Christian, Friar Michael Pfeleger and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright.
Not a single Imam, nor even a member of the "wonderous" Minister Calypso Louie Farakahn's N.O.I.
His mother was an athiest.
His father was from Kenya, and spent all of his childhood, except 4 years, living in Hawaii.
Those 4 yrs were in Indonesia.
Parents divorced when he was 2 yrs old.
He lived in Indonesia from ages 6 to 10, attending local indonesian schools.
I have heard NO confirmation of the "madrassa" accusation leveled months ago by the Hildabeast's campaign machine, and I do know of organizations that have tried to check the story out. They have found nothing solid.
Barrak returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending Punahou School from 5th grade until his graduation in 1979.]\
Mother died in 1995, ovarian cancer, not explosive belt.
Punahou School, formerly known as Oahu College, is an exclusive, private, co-educational, non-sectarian college preparatory school located in Honolulu in the U.S. State of Hawaii. With about 3,700 students attending the school, in kindergarten through the twelfth grade, it is the largest independent school in the United States.
Before being elected to the Seante, he worked as an attorney, and as a colegiate level speaker (not a professor) with many typically liberal, socialistic give-away/social carry-the-weak-along functions.
Nothing else in any way remarkable about the man.
He is not a muslim, period.
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Well which is worse, born a Muslim or covering it up?
If he would claim Jesus Christ as his savoir openly, would put all questions to rest.
Special Interest Group Ratings:
Planned Parenthood - 100% Support
National Right To Life - 0% Support
NARAL - 100% Support
Americans for Tax Reform - 0% Support
ACLU - 83% Support
NEA - 100% Support
NOW Hags - 100% Support
Citizens Against Government Waste - 13% Support
Gun Owners of America - 0% Support
NRA - "F" Rating
Federation for American Immigration Reform - 0% Support
US Border Patrol - 8% Support
Unions - 82% - 100% Support
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the 'Zero Growth' freaks)
[Obama's record in the Illinois senate:]
- Opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.
- Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishes. Obama inexplicably opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
- Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
- Obama puts rigid ideology before what's best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
- Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
- Finally, just in case you thought it couldn't get any worse, Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.
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Well which is worse, born a Muslim or covering it up?
If he would claim Jesus Christ as his savoir openly, would put all questions to rest.
Special Interest Group Ratings:
Planned Parenthood - 100% Support
National Right To Life - 0% Support
NARAL - 100% Support
Americans for Tax Reform - 0% Support
ACLU - 83% Support
NEA - 100% Support
NOW Hags - 100% Support
Citizens Against Government Waste - 13% Support
Gun Owners of America - 0% Support
NRA - "F" Rating
Federation for American Immigration Reform - 0% Support
US Border Patrol - 8% Support
Unions - 82% - 100% Support
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the 'Zero Growth' freaks)
[Obama's record in the Illinois senate:]
- Opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.
- Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother's wishes. Obama inexplicably opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
- Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
- Obama puts rigid ideology before what's best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
- Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
- Finally, just in case you thought it couldn't get any worse, Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.
Steve,
Please tell me if I am understanding this wrong, but it sounds as if you are saying that in order to be Christian, a person must have Republican values. ie right to life, a rating from the NRA, etc or claim Jesus Christ as ones savior openly.
Whether you agree with Obama's politics or not should be the issue here.
Seems fairly obvious that you don't like his politics. Why not just leave it at that, rather that assert that Obama is in some way connected to Islam.
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OK, let's try the lighter side:
Chelsea Clinton visits the soldiers in Iraq. She asks if they are afraid of the Iraqi citizens and they insist that foreign relations couldn't be better.
She then asks if they are afraid of the terrorist cells among the Iraqi people and they insist that there are so few and intelligence so updated that it's not a major concern.
She insists that they must have significant fears and they all agree that that's indeed true. "What is it that you fear the very most?" she asks,
Their unanimous response is "Obama and Yo Mama!"
If you think Iraq is a big problem, elect one of these liberals who intend to dismantle the military to spend their efforts on things like global warming and you won't need to worry about our servicemen overseas. We'll all be fighting here-what's left of them!
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Steve,
Please tell me if I am understanding this wrong, but it sounds as if you are saying that in order to be Christian, a person must have Republican values. ie right to life, a rating from the NRA, etc or claim Jesus Christ as ones savior openly.
Whether you agree with Obama's politics or not should be the issue here.
Seems fairly obvious that you don't like his politics. Why not just leave it at that, rather that assert that Obama is in some way connected to Islam.
Ok Well Duh!!!!!!!!!! A Muslim Father (you understand that right) determines the kids faith in Islam and Stepfather was a Muslim Plus The fact he was registered as a Muslim in a Muslim country when his dad was a Muslim Ultra if you do not understand the ramifications of this leave the debate you look foolish!
What I said was simply declare himself a Christian and be done with it Of course the good ole apostate thing will rear its head Then who knows? This guy is fair game!!
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OK, let's try the lighter side:
Chelsea Clinton visits the soldiers in Iraq. She asks if they are afraid of the Iraqi citizens and they insist that foreign relations couldn't be better.
She then asks if they are afraid of the terrorist cells among the Iraqi people and they insist that there are so few and intelligence so updated that it's not a major concern.
She insists that they must have significant fears and they all agree that that's indeed true. "What is it that you fear the very most?" she asks,
Their unanimous response is "Obama and Yo Mama!"
LMFAO
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Ok Well Duh!!!!!!!!!! A Muslim Father (you understand that right) determines the kids faith in Islam and Stepfather was a Muslim Plus The fact he was registered as a Muslim in a Muslim country when his dad was a Muslim Ultra if you do not understand the ramifications of this leave the debate you look foolish!
What I said was simply declare himself a Christian and be done with it Of course the good ole apostate thing will rear its head Then who knows? This guy is fair game!!
Here's one for ya Steve. My Dad was born a Jew and my Mom was born a Catholic. What does that make me?
I guess I will leave this debate to you since I look foolish. :D :D
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Here's one for ya Steve. My Dad was born a Jew and my Mom was born a Catholic. What does that make me?
I guess I will leave this debate to you since I look foolish. :D :D
You are so far left you do not get it do you??? Here.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...0-2-2007_pg3_3
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You are so far left you do not get it do you??? Here.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...0-2-2007_pg3_3
Here's another one for ya Steve. Mitt Romney, the Mormon, needs to declare openly that he is not a polygamist. Now doesn't that sound ridiculus.
Again, I will leave this debate to you since I look foolish