I'd like to see a photo of it.
Might help determine how much damage, if any, the Fountain (if it was so) incurred in the collision.
RTJas
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I'd like to see a photo of it.
Might help determine how much damage, if any, the Fountain (if it was so) incurred in the collision.
RTJas
You're not really asking for something factual in this whole sea of speculation are you??? You know better than that. :notam:
That jetski is w/o a home, and I'm concerned. :D
Seriously.....has to be somewhere....where is it??? It was collected after the crash by pontoons (so we've heard).....we can assume it didn't sink, nor was cut in half.
RTJas
A stand-up could very well have left little damage. Hate to say it but the guy that died might have been a bumper between the 2.
A stand-up could very well have left little damage. Hate to say it but the guy that died might have been a bumper between the 2.
I'm thinking the same thing, that's why I want to see it. If there is damage at all, it could be very low at the waterline. Obviously the prop & drive were still usable.
RTJas
Who cares? LEO knows the damage and what they are looking for. We only have a description of the boat that we can report if and when we see it. I don't see the need to look at the ski since none of us are authority figures on the subect.
I'm thinking the same thing, that's why I want to see it. If there is damage at all, it could be very low at the waterline. Obviously the prop & drive were still usable.
RTJas
I had a coach that was hit while on a jet ski a few years back. 2 boats were racing (both under 25ft) and one came right into him. He broke a femer a wrist and an anckle. The boat that hit him had only scrapes on the haul that could have been mistaken for damage caused by a rocky beach.
Who cares? LEO knows the damage and what they are looking for. We only have a description of the boat that we can report if and when we see it. I don't see the need to look at the ski since none of us are authority figures on the subect.
Have you had your coffie yet?
I'd like to see a photo of it.
Might help determine how much damage, if any, the Fountain (if it was so) incurred in the collision.
RTJas
Chances are since it was involved in a felony hit and run(at least I would think it is a felony) that the investigating agency, I believe someone said SBSD, would have it at their yard down at Contact Point.....
Who cares? LEO knows the damage and what they are looking for. We only have a description of the boat that we can report if and when we see it. I don't see the need to look at the ski since none of us are authority figures on the subect.
I have a very good reason........Because people are dismissing boats as possible suspects because they have no damage. SO if someone comes upon a suspect boat in a parking lot say, they may possibly not report it because it has no damage. I would like to show, there is a good chance the boat involved has little or no visible damage.
Also, with all the mis-information about this accident, I'd like to see something that is real.....this ski is the only thing that we can all look at and know is real.
And finally, what can it hurt???
RTJas
I have a very good reason........Because people are dismissing boats as possible suspects because they have no damage. SO if someone comes upon a suspect boat in a parking lot say, they may possibly not report it because it has no damage. I would like to show, there is a good chance the boat involved has little or no visible damage.
Also, with all the mis-information about this accident, I'd like to see something that is real.....this ski is the only thing that we can all look at and know is real.
And finally, what can it hurt???
RTJas
I could'nt AGREE more !!!!!!
Also, with all the mis-information about this accident
Mis-information??? What's with all this crazy talk??? We have eyewitness accounts from people who's story really hasn't changed all that much... I mean, c'mon, the kid was orphaned, wait, scratch that, he has family still, including a mother... He was riding a stand up ski, no he was a passenger on a sit-down... It was a Foutain with Scarab on the side... those are the facts, JACK!!! :idea: :eek: :D
I could'nt AGREE more !!!!!!
I can!:D
Mis-information??? What's with all this crazy talk??? We have eyewitness accounts from people who's story really hasn't changed all that much... I mean, c'mon, the kid was orphaned, wait, scratch that, he has family still, including a mother... He was riding a stand up ski, no he was a passenger on a sit-down... It was a Foutain with Scarab on the side... those are the facts, JACK!!! :idea: :eek: :D
Jordy i think your right on your misinformation, i say it's high time to ban all boats on Havasu over 25 feet then thing like this wouldn't happen and then the real river peeps could have there lake back:D
Chances are since it was involved in a felony hit and run(at least I would think it is a felony) that the investigating agency, I believe someone said SBSD, would have it at their yard down at Contact Point.....
Thanks! Where is Contact Point (my Google search didn't turn anything up)?
RTJas
i say it's high time to ban all boats on Havasu over 25 feet then thing like this wouldn't happen :D
Why not just ban Fountains, Halletts, pontoon boats, and jet skis??? They seem to be the source of these problems. :notam: :D
Mis-information??? What's with all this crazy talk??? We have eyewitness accounts from people who's story really hasn't changed all that much... I mean, c'mon, the kid was orphaned, wait, scratch that, he has family still, including a mother... He was riding a stand up ski, no he was a passenger on a sit-down... It was a Foutain with Scarab on the side... those are the facts, JACK!!! :idea: :eek: :D
Jordy....becoming the Hot Boat Minister of Mis Information......is technically the same as hating.........stop the hating!...
RD SUX!.........................:D
I have a very good reason........Because people are dismissing boats as possible suspects because they have no damage. SO if someone comes upon a suspect boat in a parking lot say, they may possibly not report it because it has no damage. I would like to show, there is a good chance the boat involved has little or no visible damage.
Also, with all the mis-information about this accident, I'd like to see something that is real.....this ski is the only thing that we can all look at and know is real.
And finally, what can it hurt???
RTJas
I was on a trip where a Sea Do ran over an older yamaha wave runner. The wave runner sunk and there was barely a scratch on the Sea Do.
Also....and excuse me for using logic and reasoning hear...but everyone is assuming this is a felony hit and run deal. Would it be possible that the driver of the Scarab Fountain was distracted by an orphaned 9 year old whose mother picked him up prior to spending the night at CPS riding a jet ski while being a passenger on a Sea Do (you have to admit...that is distracting) and the other "jet ski" came out of a cove without looking or pulled an eradic unpredictable maneuver while the driver was distracted and put himself in the path of the Fountain Scarab? And, would it be possible that running over a "jet ski" in a large offshore boat might sound like just another wake, especially if the boat had a gagillion watt stereo system hitting hard on the subs? And ultimately...the driver may have never even known he hit anything? And then just drove around like normal not bringing any attention to himself? And like others have said....actually sustain little to no damage? Nah....that could NEVER EVER happen.
I know...why don't we have a few spelling nazi's come in here and explain to us how the true evil in this whole thing is spelling and grammar?
Jordy....becoming the Hot Boat Minister of Mis Information......
I belive that position was filled long before I ever posted on the subject... and educating is not hating Brian, and you know this!!! :devil: :D
RD Sux. :D
I was on a trip where a Sea Do ran over an older yamaha wave runner. The wave runner sunk and there was barely a scratch on the Sea Do.
Also....and excuse me for using logic and reasoning hear...but everyone is assuming this is a felony hit and run deal. Would it be possible that the driver of the Scarab Fountain was distracted by an orphaned 9 year old whose mother picked him up prior to spending the night at CPS riding a jet ski while being a passenger on a Sea Do (you have to admit...that is distracting) and the other "jet ski" came out of a cove without looking or pulled an eradic unpredictable maneuver while the driver was distracted and put himself in the path of the Fountain Scarab? And, would it be possible that running over a "jet ski" in a large offshore boat might sound like just another wake, especially if the boat had a gagillion watt stereo system hitting hard on the subs? And ultimately...the driver may have never even known he hit anything? And then just drove around like normal not bringing any attention to himself? And like others have said....actually sustain little to no damage? Nah....that could NEVER EVER happen.
I know...why don't we have a few spelling nazi's come in here and explain to us how the true evil in this whole thing is spelling and grammar?
The Doo in Sea Doo......has 2 o's....
The Doo in Sea Doo......has 2 o's....
What is the fine for that?
I belive that position was filled long before I ever posted on the subject... and educating is not hating Brian, and you know this!!! :devil: :D
RD Sux. :D
Educating is cruel. Because someone ends up being right and someone ends up being wrong. And it is just cruel to point out when someone is wrong...and really shows that you are just a Hater. Nice try Mr. Minister of Mis Information.:mad: :D
What is the fine for that?
Infractions such as that go before the Tribunal......I cant speak for them....but they are usually pretty harsh on such infractions....
Jordy might chime in as he heads up the Diciplanary Tribunals....
YOU KNOW!??!? I was just thinking that there was a 17-19 foot boat at Site 6 with the whole rub rail pulled off the front left side and when the crowd joked and asked about it he said it happened on the trailer. :eek: :jawdrop: Now thinking about it is there any possible way that 30 foot fountain was racing/ passing that boat and since the witness here said he did NOT see the actual impact that this boat hit the guy as the Fountain blocked the view??? It was a ugly little thing with like flat black headers and I think eaven the Intake manifild was flat black. Just an idea????:idea:
Nice try Mr. Minister of Mis Information.:mad: :D
Jordy might chime in as he heads up the Diciplanary Tribunals....
I think I'm going to need an assistant with all these hats that I apparently am wearing now... :idea:
Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.
I agree, it's possible he doesn't know he hit something. He looked back (so the 15 trained Marine sniper spotters have reported), but he may not have seen anything, and had no reason to go back.
BUT.....why is it NOBODY connected with this forum has seen or heard of this boat??? Nobody saw it a gas station.....nobody has seen it at their neighbor's house....nobody has seen it leaving a storage area. This guy was boating mid-week, so we can ASSume he's either a local, or was on vacation...probably not just a one time shot, going to Havasu and the river on a Thursday. Didn't launch Friday though, we know the ramps were being watched by then......
Also....If he didn't know he hit someone, maybe he'd turn himself in if he heard he was wanted.....what is the Havasu newspaper reporting?
Very strange deal....lotta questions....I'd just simply like to find the boat involved, and let the legal system handle it from there.
RTJas
Why not just ban Fountains, Halletts, pontoon boats, and jet skis??? They seem to be the source of these problems. :notam: :D
You forgot Donzis captain. :eek: :D
I think I'm going to need an assistant with all these hats that I apparently am wearing now... :idea:
Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.
You're talking about Holy Moly ...sir...
Have you had your coffie yet?I rarely drink that stuff.
You forgot Donzis captain. :eek: :D
Leave me out of this... :notam:
I'm pretty sure I saw another boat on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:
This has become insane!
Who ever said they where on one Sea Doo. I saw with my own two eyes them riding two seperate older style stand up (no seat) jet skies think of the 80s. I also lifted the two seperate jet skies off of the pontoon boats onto the concrete at the marina. P.D. braught a utility truck to the marina and unhooked the trailer from Barrys truck and connected it to there truck and took the jet skies away, to where I don't know. The jet ski that Barry was riding had alot off damage to it and the front end was under water when we pulled up.
Unless some one had a scarab boat with one foot large letters that said FOUNTAIN on it, it was a FOUNTAIN. The boat also had the typical fountain front on it.
I hope this helps
Jeff
I'm pretty sure I saw another boat on the grassy knoll. :rolleyes:
:idea: Yes, another boat, shielded by the Fountain as it went by.....Or maybe the Fountain everyone saw was not a boat at all, but an actual water fountain! That might prove easier to find. :D
RTJas :D
This has become insane!
Who ever said they where on one Sea Doo. I saw with my own two eyes them riding two seperate older style stand up (no seat) jet skies think of the 80s. I also lifted the two seperate jet skies off of the pontoon boats onto the concrete at the marina. P.D. braught a utility truck to the marina and unhooked the trailer from Barrys truck and connected it to there truck and took the jet skies away, to where I don't know. The jet ski that Barry was riding had alot off damage to it and the front end was under water when we pulled up.
Unless some one had a scarab boat with one foot large letters that said FOUNTAIN on it, it was a FOUNTAIN. The boat also had the typical fountain front on it.
I hope this helps
Jeff
Thank you!!!
Jokes are just that, jokes....it's how we pass the time here.
Were you at the ramp at Topock marina when they transfered the trailer?
RTJas :D
Yes
Thanks! Where is Contact Point (my Google search didn't turn anything up)?
RTJas
It's South of the city on the AZ side of the lake. It's where the BLM and SBSD boats are docked.
You're talking about Holy Moly ...sir...
Point of parliamentary procedure! :D
Mis-information??? What's with all this crazy talk??? We have eyewitness accounts from people who's story really hasn't changed all that much... I mean, c'mon, the kid was orphaned, wait, scratch that, he has family still, including a mother... He was riding a stand up ski, no he was a passenger on a sit-down... It was a Foutain with Scarab on the side... those are the facts, JACK!!! :idea: :eek: :D
Do I have to keep telling you to keep us Scarab drivers out of your witch hunt!!!! :D :D
I think I'm going to need an assistant with all these hats that I apparently am wearing now... :idea:
Cut the horseshit, son. I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.
(Dean Wormer RIP)
Do I have to keep telling you to keep us Scarab drivers out of your witch hunt!!!! :D :D
I didn't know we were hunting witches??? Was she on one of the Sea-doo's or was she driving the alleged Fountain??? :idea:
(Dean Wormer RIP)
But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
:D :D :D