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My buddy worked for them years ago...lived close to them...nice 25' & 28' "World Class" Vs......Jim Cole was an interesting dude. Heard lots of rumors....anyone know the TRUE story with details and timelines.
Sorry if this is an ancient subject with past threads.
Just curious!
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The owner has giving up boat building and is now spending his time researching the airplane/treadmill theory.
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Common...somebody's gotta know somethin'!!!
I think this is an attempt at my first BUMP.....bump
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The owner has giving up boat building and is now spending his time researching the airplane/treadmill theory.
OH....a MythBusters reference.....that helps!:D
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It will be interesting to read what others have to say about Jim. I have heard stories from he got cancer and got out of the business, to he got shot, and that he moved to AZ and retired. I do know that Eliminator had a new Cole 25 for sale last year with a 496 Mag in it, priced at under 70K.
Jim built great boats. I had a 91 Superhawk with a 454/Bravo.
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It will be interesting to read what others have to say about Jim. I have heard stories from he got cancer and got out of the business, to he got shot, and that he moved to AZ and retired. I do know that Eliminator had a new Cole 25 for sale last year with a 496 Mag in it, priced at under 70K.
Jim built great boats. I had a 91 Superhawk with a 454/Bravo.
I do know this.....he got shot....he was being protected by some big dudes after the shooting...that is the end of the "good info" I have....a buddy was doing some conduit in the attic of the shop when the shooters came in and popped him (on a Saturday)....would love the whole story...yes, he built a very Howard-quality boat!
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I do know this.....he got shot....he was being protected by some big dudes after the shooting...that is the end of the "good info" I have....a buddy was doing some conduit in the attic of the shop when the shooters came in and popped him (on a Saturday)....would love the whole story...yes, he built a very Howard-quality boat!
Back in the early 90's it was Howard, Hallett and Cole. The Chatsworth shop was a bit of a hole, but he had some beautiful boats in the back.
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No Howard builds COLE quality boats, just not as heavy lay-up...:D :D :D
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He did get shot. He's out of the boat business. His molds are at a shop in Winchester. They're building some boats there and also laying up some hulls for Martin Marine.
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Is Jim still alive?
Martin as in Casillas(sp)?
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He did get shot. He's out of the boat business. His molds are at a shop in Winchester. They're building some boats there and also laying up some hulls for Martin Marine.
Winchester as in Temecula/Murrieta area? Where is this shop located?
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...Molds were in Havasu for a while,Jeff Clark had them.
After that it gets REALLY ugly...
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If you do a search you can find all kinds of takes.
I've owned a home across from his (now former) shop.
Always lots of drama at and with Mr. Cole.
His retail boats performed well over 70 mph, especially compaired to most (not all) his competition.
And some of his boats are valued by their condition, not their year. A BFD that says alot about quality.
Cole is a subject that can really get folks worked up here.
Many Sunday mornings at the nearby Elks Lodge on Shoenborn, across from Rocketdyne, former Cole Racers, team owners, drivers, mechanics, employees, owners, vendors, friends and enemies have breakfast at the outdoor beer garden and the Cole stories fly.
LEOS are at the breakfast and their Cole stories, takes and opinions are just as interesting
It's open to the public.
Cole, if anything, good or bad, real or exaggerated, is definately a legend in the world of Hot Boats.
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I love the shooting story. Everybody knows somebody that was there. What, were there 55 people in the shop when he got shot?
My sister's husbands step father's brother has a cousin.... :)
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:) The owner has giving up boat building and is now spending his time researching the airplane/treadmill theory.
some of us get a bit confused by you Dennis:idea: :) A simple question. and a time and place for attempted humor IMO not the Time Or Place. But who knows the humor out here any more
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The owner has giving up boat building and is now spending his time researching the airplane/treadmill theory.
That could be something "Dumb and Young" would Type.But he has been gone quite awhile.lol
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J 540 knows cole real well, worked for him for a while 20 yrs ago, I believe he's still in touch and knows his whereabouts:idea: :idea: :idea:
Paging J 540.....the biggest dick I know:D :D :D
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I remember back at the LA Show in '99 Jim was siting at the desk they had set up in towards the back of their display, with (what appeared to be) a cocktail in one hand, and a lit cigarette in the other. Reminded me when I was a kid and smoking inside was still kosher :D
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If you do a search you can find all kinds of takes.
I've owned a home across from his (now former) shop.
Always lots of drama at and with Mr. Cole.
His retail boats performed well over 70 mph, especially compaired to most (not all) his competition.
And some of his boats are valued by their condition, not their year. A BFD that says alot about quality.
Cole is a subject that can really get folks worked up here.
Every Sunday morning at the Elk Lodge on Shoenborn, across from Rocketdyne, former Cole Racers, team owners, drivers, mechanics, employees, owners, vendors, friends and enemies have breakfast and the Cole stories fly.
LEOS are at the breakfast and their Cole stories, takes and opinions are just as interesting
It's open to the public.
Cole, if anything, good or bad, real or exaggerated, is definately a legend in the world of Hot Boats.
:)
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Is it possible that you could be a bigger dick?
I think it is "That time of month" for 3 daytona's.
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I love the shooting story. Everybody knows somebody that was there. What, were there 55 people in the shop when he got shot?
I was there moments after he was shot...
You rang BOB....
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I ran into him at a yacht sales office in Huntington Beach a few years back, He gave me a few words of advice he told me "Son start offering gel repair in your detailing business thats where the money's at" Nice guy gave me one of his old business cards and limped off.
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I think it is "That time of month" for 3 daytona's.
Thanks.. a good laugh is always good before bed.:D
Goodnight!
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Jim Shubert is still building motors in the valley. He recently built the motor in Frankie's BAH "Red Baron" and a fuel motor for Andy Herberts' BFH "Reinin Thunder". PM me if you want to get in touch with Jim.
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Winchester as in Temecula/Murrieta area? Where is this shop located?
He advertises on Craigslist as Crusader boats and does other custom work also. I know that Martin Marine said he can build a Cole boat with a Cole Hull ID. Jim Cole gets a piece of every boat built.
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It was not Cole's Family boats that put him on the map. It was his Drag Boats.
Read this Tread it has some info (http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105330)
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New 2 Cats: Call me when you have a minute.
Work number is 928-680-7600
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The little I know about him is from articles and the drags. His flats, runners and hydros are some of the best and still most sought(sp) after hulls. If ***boat Mag. is correct he was the first to produce a out of the box 100MPH I/O V-hull and pioneered some of the gel coat colors and techniques used.
IMO. It's too bad he was not a better business man. He is an awesom boat builder and could be up there with Eliminator and some others today.
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There is a Cole thread about once a year. It will get deleted at some point.
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There is a Cole thread about once a year. It will get deleted at some point.
SPOT ON.
Right now this thread is mild. If it goes left just a little it will disapear.
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There is a Cole thread about once a year. It will get deleted at some point.
SPOT ON.
Right now this thread is mild. If it goes left just a little it will disapear.
Why is that? :confused:
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Why is that? :confused:
Don't know but there is obviously a relationship between HB and Cole...still.
Some of the older threads I remember get pretty wild and the speculation flows. Then thread is gone.
Probably deserving of deletion anyway.
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his boats were the SHIAT!
I almost bought one in 2002
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Why is that? :confused:
Tweakers take them down. :D
OC said it best.
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Tweakers take them down. :D
OC said it best.
:D :D
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I think it is "That time of month" for 3 daytona's.
does that to me= sorry:idea:
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does that to me= sorry:idea:
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See ya in 4 days!
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how to secure the Diverter pump?:confused: :rolleyes: :D Young and Dumb this is not brain surgery:)
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how to secure the Diverter pump?:confused: :rolleyes: :D Young and Dumb this is not brain surgery:)
....hey did you buy a boat yet?;)
or are you still sobbing over that guy in the jet boat that didnt wave to you?
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....hey did you buy a boat yet?;)
or are you still sobbing over that guy in the jet boat that didnt wave to you?
D&Y should we make a little wager:)