. There's no way the CIA was going to let the son of a (then Governor or head of the cia or something,) politician go to war and be captured. Do you know of any other politician's son who was in Nam?
If you think Kerry is any more than the lying opportunistic two faced liberal politician than he is, then God help you.[/QUOTE]
Err ummmmmm Gore.
But he had babysitters.
Just kepin it real.
[QUOTE=LilHarley]Can't really blame LBJ or Tricky Dick for what daddy's money can buy. And trust me, that isn't the issue I have because, heck, old George wasn't the only one to buy or pull in favors to get in the NG. All lot of people did it.
I must be missing something. Does this mean everyone in the Guard during Nam was a politicians or rich man's son? All of them? What about the guardsmen that served in Nam?
To whom it may concern: Kerrys Babe
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda¹s "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment.
Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released [in 1973]. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great Women." After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the antiwar movement. I said that I held Joan Baez¹s husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest.
If the other antiwar protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn¹t be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.
Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.
After her heroesthe North Vietnamese communiststook over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!
Respectfully, Michael D. Benge
- - - Michael D. Benge spent 11 years in Viet Nam--1963-75, five years as a Prisoner of War--1968-73. For efforts in rescuing several Americans before capture, he received the State Department's highest award for heroism and a second one for valor.
Here a Link on Michael Benge.
http://members.aol.com/bear317d/olsen.htm
To whom it may concern: Kerrys Babe
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.
At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane Fonda¹s "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POWs were lying about our torture and treatment.
Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And, shame, shame on the Disney Company.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released [in 1973]. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband.
This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great Women." After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the antiwar movement. I said that I held Joan Baez¹s husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest.
If the other antiwar protesters took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn¹t be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way.
Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars.
After her heroesthe North Vietnamese communiststook over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!
Respectfully, Michael D. Benge
- - - Michael D. Benge spent 11 years in Viet Nam--1963-75, five years as a Prisoner of War--1968-73. For efforts in rescuing several Americans before capture, he received the State Department's highest award for heroism and a second one for valor.
That story turned my stomach. I bet he won't throw his medals over a fence.
Kerry ought to be shot in front of a firing squad.
Just to keep things straight here comp, Bush was in the Air National Guard (Air Force), not the Navy. He flew F102's, an interceptor/bomber escort. I think his first carrier landing was aboard the S-3 last year.
No flame intended, just trying to keep the facts straight.
Thanks, SJ. No flame taken.
Thought he was a navy pilot...heard he landed on carriers. I stand corrected. Dosent matter...like I said, just flying any one of those jets is'nt anything most of us can do. His co-flyers say he was a good pilot. Good guy to fly with and be around
Air Nat'l Guard...OK,...I never said Bush went to any of the Academies. Just pointing out that many did, and that took political pull, and grooming. But I guess if you run for President, even that kind of service is open for criticizm. I just can't stomach anyone even comparing Bush and Kerry, as much a POS as that man is. And anyone swallowing any of what he says, after as many different stories as he's come up with, well, I have something here you can swallow as well, and you won't even know the difference! Putting Bush in the same sentence as Hanoi Jane makes me want to spit!
. There's no way the CIA was going to let the son of a (then Governor or head of the cia or something,) politician go to war and be captured. Do you know of any other politician's son who was in Nam?
If you think Kerry is any more than the lying opportunistic two faced liberal politician than he is, then God help you.
Err ummmmmm Gore.
But he had babysitters.
Just kepin it real.[/QUOTE]
Didn't knnow Gore's dad was a politician. I didn't say there weren't any politicians' sons in Nam...I asked if there were. I was under the impression that Bush put in for active duty and was rejected due to his status as Bush senior's son. I had heard htat on a report some time back. It's all really semantics.
Err ummmmmm Gore.
But he had babysitters.
Just kepin it real.
Didn't knnow Gore's dad was a politician. I didn't say there weren't any politicians' sons in Nam...I asked if there were. I was under the impression that Bush put in for active duty and was rejected due to his status as Bush senior's son. I had heard htat on a report some time back. It's all really semantics.[/QUOTE]
Gore's daddy was a senator,bought and paid for by Armand Hammer (Occidental Petroleum)
Err ummmmmm Gore.
But he had babysitters.
Just kepin it real.
Where algore went over there he could have wore a tuxedo.
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