Reply With QuoteYou make it sound too simple. I think we should create more laws to stop the bad guys.That's what they do in Havasu.
I'm not a cop, but these never ending videos of so-called "excessive force" must make the cops job very difficult and frustrating (I'm frustrated just listening to all the BS on the news).
If I were in charge, I would say:
- If they resist arrest, shoot them
- If they run, shoot them
- If they engage in a high speed chase, shoot them.
I think you would have a lot fewer difficult arrests.
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You make it sound too simple. I think we should create more laws to stop the bad guys.
Good one....
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I have been reading the hot boat forum for a long time but never post.. however, I saw it to say AMEN AMEN AND AMEN to this post.
I have been reading the hot boat forum for a long time but never post.. however, I saw it to say AMEN AMEN AND AMEN to this post.
Thank you for your support....and welcome to the jungle.....now that's a good first post!!!
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Yea, the ones lately are interesting.
The pepper spray one is nothing. That idiot was kicking and spitting and they gave him numerous chances to obey and get his feet in the car. They sprayed him just like they are taught to do. They expect the cop to get in there with him and fight and injure himself ? That's what non lethal force and weapons are for.
The punches thrown after a foot pursuit, time will tell. Looks to me like that guy was still fighting, flailing his arms, clearly not obeying all commands, laying there, not moving at all like he should. He ran, he fought, they got his arms behind his head, he's still flexing, they punch him in the face during the fight. Video doesn't say it all, but my guess is they will get off on this case too.
I agree with you though, I like your rules.
Thanks BajaMike. I've been reading for about 5 years now. Usually check in and see what's going on every evening before I head to bed. As you can see, I pretty much keep my comments to myself. However, I am in complete agreement with you on this. If the Judge's would have done their jobs years ago.. it wouldn't come to this now. Again, thanks for the welcome.
- If they resist arrest, shoot them
- If they run, shoot them
- If they engage in a high speed chase, shoot them.
Exactly! BRAVO!
The media perpetuates the negative attitudes toward police in the way they report the news. They sensationalize the incidents and cause the public outcry and they don't report the whole story. Like in the LAPD pepper spray story, they make a point to say the LAPD peppersprayed a HANDCUFFED suspect. Shit, we pepper spray handcuffed suspects all the time. They think just because somebody is cuffed that they can't fight or don't pose a threat. Last week a guy who was handcuffed spat on my partner and kicked out both rear windows in one of our units (which worked out well because instead of arresting him for the two misdemeanors of resisting arrest and battery on an officer we were able to charge him with felony vandalism for the damage to the unit) :crossx: In a similar case, a handcuffed suspect kicked my partner in the knee causing him to go IOD from the injury.
Years ago, while my dad was a Deputy Sheriff, he and his partner were escorting a cuffed suspect down a stairwell when the suspect started fighting. To keep from falling down the stairs, my dad completely tore the ligaments in his knee resulting in surgery, pins and screws, and about 6 months off work. Not to mention the injury ultimatley forced him to finish his career on light duty and medically retire.
The Media is in no way COP friendly, they do more to hurt our profession than anybody else. Anybody catch that pursuit a while back where the guy crashed through the fence and the officer rushed to the car and the police chopper turned off the spot light. They turned off the light so the news choppers could not video the officers taking the suspect into custody (not that the officers were going to do anything wrong, but it avoids a bunch of monday morning quarterbacks, who know next to nothing about what our job entales, getting all upset because somebody gave the resisting suspect a distraction blow on the shoulder with a flashlight). It's funny that they remind us in line up that if we get into a pursuit and it last for more than 5 minutes that you can guarantee the news choppers will be watching and to be extra careful with our tactics.
After the LAPD/Cardenas thing aired, I had a lady approach me while at work and aske what she could do to show her support for the police. I wish I met more people like her.
I'm not a cop, but these never ending videos of so-called "excessive force" must make the cops job very difficult and frustrating (I'm frustrated just listening to all the BS on the news).
If I were in charge, I would say:
- If they resist arrest, shoot them
- If they run, shoot them
- If they engage in a high speed chase, shoot them.
I think you would have a lot fewer difficult arrests.
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You rock BajaMike. Wish you were in charge.
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