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Thread: Charming folk you have chosen to align with smokin

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    Blown 472
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    Moneypitt
    Anyone have a copy of the Knights of Columbus loyality oath??

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    SmokinLowriderSS
    Feeling all lonely and shi+ in the nuthatch blown? You're got poser for company, or has HE rejected your twisted logic too?
    WHAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaa.
    Looking for it MP, but it is 2 pages (have found references and excerpts) and have not yet located it's entire text.
    Apparently there is a bogus one that was brought out by the Klan in the '20's as well.

  4. #4
    Blown 472
    Dodging it again I see, you are a sad sad little man.

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    mickeyfinn
    Here is what google turned up. Doesn't sound like an organization promoting Christian principles at all. The oath seems more full of hate and encouragement to eliminate other churches than anything else. Of course I found it on the internet so who knows if it is correct or not.:
    "KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS OATH:
    "I, ___ ___, NOW IN THE PRESENCE OF ALMIGHTY GOD, THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY, THE BLESSED ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST, THE HOLY APOSTLES, ST. PETER AND ST. PAUL, AND ALL THE SAINTS, SACRED HOSTS OF HEAVEN AND TO YOU, MY GHOSTLY FATHER, THE SUPERIOR GENERAL OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS FOUNDED BY ST. IGNATIUS LOYOLA, IN THE PONTIFICATION OF PAUL III, AND CONTINUED TO THE PRESENT, DO BY THE WOMB OF THE VIRGIN, THE MATRIX OF GOD, AND THE ROD OF JESUS CHRIST, DECLARE AND SWEAR THAT HIS HOLINESS, THE POPE, IS CHRIST'S VICEGERENT AND IS THE TRUE AND ONLY HEAD OF THE CATHOLIC OR UNIVERSAL CHURCH THROUGHOUT THE EARTH; AND THAT BY VIRTUE OF THE KEYS OF BINDING AND LOOSING GIVEN HIS HOLINESS BY MY SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, HE HATH POWER TO DEPOSE HERETICAL KINGS, PRINCES, STATES, COMMONWEALTHS AND GOVERNMENTS AND THEY MAY BE SAFELY DESTROYED. THEREFORE TO THE UTMOST OF MY POWER I WILL DEFEND THIS DOCTRINE AND HIS HOLINESS' RIGHT AND CUSTOM AGAINST ALL USURPERS OF THE HERETICAL OR PROTESTANT AUTHORITY WHATEVER, ESPECIALLY THE LUTHERAN CHURCH OF GERMANY, HOLLAND, DENMARK, SWEDEN, AND NORWAY AND THE NOW PRETENDED AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCHES OF ENGLAND AND SCOTLAND, OF THE CALVINISTS, OF SAME NOW ESTABLISHED IN IRELAND AND ON THE CONTINENT OF AMERICA AND ELSEWHERE, AND ALL ADHERENTS IN REGARD THAT THEY MAY BE USURPED AND HERETICAL, OPPOSING THE SACRED MOTHER CHURCH OF ROME.
    "I DO NOW DENOUNCE AND DISOWN ANY ALLEGIANCE AS DUE TO ANY HERETICAL KING, PRINCE, OR STATE, NAMED PROTESTANT, OR LIBERALS, OR OBEDIENT TO ANY OF THEIR LAWS, MAGISTRATES OR OFFICERS.
    "I DO FURTHER DECLARE THAT THE DOCTRINES OF THE CHURCHES OF ENGLAND AND SCOTLAND, OF THE CALVINISTS, HUEGENOTS, AND OTHERS OF THE NAME OF PROTESTANTS OR MASONS TO BE DAMNABLE, AND THEY THEMSELVES TO BE DAMNED WHO WILL NOT FORSAKE THE SAME.
    "I DO FURTHER DECLARE THAT I WILL HELP, ASSIST AND ADVISE ALL OR ANY OF HIS HOLINESS' AGENTS, IN ANY PLACE WHERE I SHOULD BE, IN SWITZERLAND, GERMANY, HOLLAND, IRELAND, OR AMERICA OR IN ANY OTHER KINGDOM OR TERRITORY I SHALL COME TO AND DO MY UTMOST TO EXTIRPATE THE HERETICAL PROTESTANT OR MASONIC DOCTRINES AND TO DESTROY ALL THEIR PRETENDED POWERS, LEGAL OR OTHERWISE.
    "I DO FURTHER PROMISE AND DECLARE THAT, NOTWITHSTANDING I AM DISPENSED WITH TO ASSUME ANY RELIGION HERETICAL FOR THE PROPAGATION OF THE MOTHER CHURCH'S INTERESTS, TO KEEP SECRET AND PRIVATE ALL HER AGENT'S COUNSELS FROM TIME TO TIME, AS THEY ENTRUST ME, AND NOT DIVULGE, DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, BY WORD, WRITING, OR CIRCUMSTANCES WHATEVER, BUT TO EXECUTE ALL THAT SHOULD BE PROPOSED, GIVEN IN CHARGE, OR DISCOVERED UNTO ME BY YOU, MY GHOSTLY FATHER, OR ANY OF THE SACRED ORDER.
    "I DO FURTHER PROMISE AND DECLARE THAT I WILL HAVE NO OPINION OR WILL OF MY OWN OR ANY MENTAL RESERVATION WHATSOEVER, EVEN AS A CORPSE OR CADAVER (PERINDE AC CADAVER), BUT WILL UNHESITATINGLY OBEY EACH AND EVERY COMMAND THAT I MAY RECEIVE FROM MY SUPERIORS IN THE MILITIA OF THE POPE AND OF JESUS CHRIST.
    "THAT I WILL GO TO ANY PART OF THE WORLD WITHERSOEVER I MAY BE SENT, TO THE FROZEN REGIONS NORTH, JUNGLES OF INDIA, TO THE CENTERS OF CIVILIZATION OF EUROPE, OR TO THE WILD HAUNTS OF THE BARBAROUS SAVAGES OF AMERICA WITHOUT MURMURING OR REPINING, AND WILL BE SUBMISSIVE IN ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER COMMUNICATED TO ME.
    "I DO FURTHER PROMISE AND DECLARE THAT I WILL, WHEN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS, MAKE AND WAGE RELENTLESS WAR, SECRETLY AND OPENLY, AGAINST ALL HERETICS, PROTESTANTS AND MASONS, AS I AM DIRECTED TO DO TO EXTIRPATE THEM FROM THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH; AND THAT I WILL SPARE NEITHER AGE, SEX, OR CONDITION, AND THAT I WILL HANG, BURN, WASTE, BOIL, FLAY, STRANGLE AND BURY ALIVE THESE INFAMOUS HERETICS; RIP UP THE STOMACHS AND WOMBS OF THEIR WOMEN AND CRUSH THEIR INFANT'S HEADS AGAINST THE WALLS IN ORDER TO ANNIHILATE THEIR EXECRABLY RACE. THAT WHEN THE SAME CANNOT BE DONE OPENLY, I WILL SECRETLY USE THE POISONOUS CUP, THE STRANGULATION CORD, THE STEEL PONIARD, OR THE LEADEN BULLET, REGARDLESS OF THE HONOR, RANK, DIGNITY, OR AUTHORITY OF THE PERSONS WHATEVER MAY BE THEIR CONDITION IN LIFE, EITHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, AS I AT ANY TIME MAY BE DIRECTED SO TO DO BY ANY AGENT OF THE POPE OR SUPERIOR OF THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE HOLY FATHER OF THE SOCIETY OF JESUS.
    "IN CONFIRMATION OF WHICH I HEREBY DEDICATE MY LIFE, SOUL, AND ALL CORPORAL POWERS, AND WITH THE DAGGER WHICH I NOW RECEIVE I WILL SUBSCRIBE MY NAME WRITTEN IN MY BLOOD IN TESTIMONY THEREOF; AND SHOULD I PROVE FALSE OR WEAKEN IN MY DETERMINATION, MAY MY BRETHREN AND FELLOW SOLDIERS OF THE MILITIA OF THE POPE CUT OFF MY HANDS AND FEET AND MY THROAT FROM EAR TO EAR, MY BELLY OPENED AND SULFUR BURNED THEREIN WITH ALL THE PUNISHMENT THAT CAN BE INFLICTED UPON ME ON EARTH AND MY SOUL SHALL BE TORTURED BY DEMONS IN ETERNAL HELL FOREVER.
    "THAT I WILL IN VOTING ALWAYS VOTE FOR A K. OF C. IN PREFERENCE TO A PROTESTANT, ESPECIALLY A MASON, AND THAT I WILL LEAVE MY PARTY TO DO SO; THAT IF TWO CATHOLICS ARE ON THE TICKET I WILL SATISFY MYSELF WHICH IS THE BETTER SUPPORTER OF THE MOTHER CHURCH AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
    "THAT I WILL NOT DEAL WITH OR EMPLOY A PROTESTANT IF IN MY POWER TO DEAL WITH AND EMPLOY A CATHOLIC. THAT I WILL PLACE CATHOLIC GIRLS IN PROTESTANT FAMILIES THAT A WEEKLY REPORT MAY BE MADE OF THE HERETICS.
    "THAT I WILL PROVIDE MYSELF WITH ARMS AND AMMUNITION THAT I MAY BE IN READINESS WHEN THE WORD IS PASSED, OR I AM COMMANDED TO DEFEND THE CHURCH EITHER AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR WITH THE MILITIA OF THE POPE.
    "ALL OF WHICH I, ____ ____, DO SWEAR BY THE BLESSED TRINITY AND BLESSED SACRAMENT WHICH I AM NOW TO RECEIVE TO PERFORM AND ON MY PART TO KEEP MY OATH.
    "IN TESTIMONY HEREOF, I TAKE THIS MOST HOLY AND BLESSED SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST AND WITNESS THE SAME FURTHER WITH MY NAME WRITTEN WITH THE POINT OF THIS DAGGER DIPPED IN MY OWN BLOOD AND SEAL IN THE FACE OF THIS HOLY SACRAMENT." (Slaves of the Godsmith, H. George Buss, 1913, The Revelation Publishing Co.)

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    Moneypitt
    I had read that before.(1960 something). Ever wonder why Ireland was at war for a couple of hundred years? That document was dated 1913, but existed in some form for centuries. You would never imagine that the knight's hall down the street, near your children's school, or next to the park/playgound, harbored people with such strong beliefs in the genocide of their enemies. Also of note, I believe John Kennedy was a member. Where did his alliance fall? I remember alot of panic when he was elected, based on that premise...........Who woulda thunk it??? .........MP

  7. #7
    SmokinLowriderSS
    That one is the bogus oath, proven many a time over the years in courts of law to be a fake.
    Although branded by a US Congressional Committee in 1913 as a fake used by American bigots, the bogus oath was used against Democratic candidate Alfred E. Smith in the 1928 presidential campaign and again against John F. Kennedy in 1960 in the West Virginia Democratic primary.
    A history of the various prosecutions for criminal libel in printing and publishing this alleged oath may be found in a pamphlet, published by the Supreme Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus at New Haven, Connecticut. It is entitled Knights of Columbus vs. Criminal Libel and Malicious Bigotry.
    Here is the REAL pledge of the Knights of Columbus, 4th Degree:
    The real pledge—not oath—taken by the Knights of Columbus in their Fourth Degree runs as follows: 'I swear to support the Constitution of the United States. I pledge myself, as a Catholic citizen and Knight of Columbus, to enlighten myself fully upon my duties as a citizen, and to conscientiously perform such duties entirely in the interest of my country, regardless of all personal consequences. I pledge myself to do all in my power to preserve the purity and integrity of the ballot, and to promote reverence and respect for law and order. I promise to practise my religion openly and consistently, but without ostentation, and so to conduct myself in public affairs and in the exercise of public virtue, as to reflect nothing but credit upon our Holy Church, to the end that she may flourish, and our country prosper to the greater honor and glory of God."
    The one you posted has been proven to be as fake as the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion.
    I'm sure blown has a copy of THAT one in his library tho, don't ya blown.

  8. #8
    Old Texan
    That one is the bogus oath, proven many a time over the years in courts of law to be a fake.
    Although branded by a US Congressional Committee in 1913 as a fake used by American bigots, the bogus oath was used against Democratic candidate Alfred E. Smith in the 1928 presidential campaign and again against John F. Kennedy in 1960 in the West Virginia Democratic primary.
    A history of the various prosecutions for criminal libel in printing and publishing this alleged oath may be found in a pamphlet, published by the Supreme Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus at New Haven, Connecticut. It is entitled Knights of Columbus vs. Criminal Libel and Malicious Bigotry.
    Here is the REAL pledge of the Knights of Columbus, 4th Degree:
    The real pledge—not oath—taken by the Knights of Columbus in their Fourth Degree runs as follows: 'I swear to support the Constitution of the United States. I pledge myself, as a Catholic citizen and Knight of Columbus, to enlighten myself fully upon my duties as a citizen, and to conscientiously perform such duties entirely in the interest of my country, regardless of all personal consequences. I pledge myself to do all in my power to preserve the purity and integrity of the ballot, and to promote reverence and respect for law and order. I promise to practise my religion openly and consistently, but without ostentation, and so to conduct myself in public affairs and in the exercise of public virtue, as to reflect nothing but credit upon our Holy Church, to the end that she may flourish, and our country prosper to the greater honor and glory of God."
    The one you posted has been proven to be as fake as the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion.
    I'm sure blown has a copy of THAT one in his library tho, don't ya blown.
    Careful Smokin', PX and Blown are goin' to get all indignant again about you postin' facts.....:devil:

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    Old Texan
    My dealings with the K of C is that they sure have good chicken Bar-b-Ques. I'd like to think even Blown could see some benefit in that...
    I've known a bunch of these guys through the years and none would ever sign or adhere to a bogus pledge such as the one posted, there's good people in the K of C.

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    Blown 472
    That one is the bogus oath, proven many a time over the years in courts of law to be a fake.
    Although branded by a US Congressional Committee in 1913 as a fake used by American bigots, the bogus oath was used against Democratic candidate Alfred E. Smith in the 1928 presidential campaign and again against John F. Kennedy in 1960 in the West Virginia Democratic primary.
    A history of the various prosecutions for criminal libel in printing and publishing this alleged oath may be found in a pamphlet, published by the Supreme Board of Directors of the Knights of Columbus at New Haven, Connecticut. It is entitled Knights of Columbus vs. Criminal Libel and Malicious Bigotry.
    Here is the REAL pledge of the Knights of Columbus, 4th Degree:
    The real pledge—not oath—taken by the Knights of Columbus in their Fourth Degree runs as follows: 'I swear to support the Constitution of the United States. I pledge myself, as a Catholic citizen and Knight of Columbus, to enlighten myself fully upon my duties as a citizen, and to conscientiously perform such duties entirely in the interest of my country, regardless of all personal consequences. I pledge myself to do all in my power to preserve the purity and integrity of the ballot, and to promote reverence and respect for law and order. I promise to practise my religion openly and consistently, but without ostentation, and so to conduct myself in public affairs and in the exercise of public virtue, as to reflect nothing but credit upon our Holy Church, to the end that she may flourish, and our country prosper to the greater honor and glory of God."
    The one you posted has been proven to be as fake as the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion.
    I'm sure blown has a copy of THAT one in his library tho, don't ya blown.
    Wassamater smokin, you asked for the talmud and here it is, you support these type of people and you post some crap about the kights of whatever, you are truly a lame little man.

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