**** justice, **** the american people

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Sometimes a pardon is the only chance justice has.
As for "Scooter" Libby, this was all a bunch of CNN stuff anyway designed to distract you from the real crimes and misdemeanors committed daily.
You got that right.

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Libby was convicted of a crime, sentenced and his appeal was refused. Stating that he shouldn't go to jail, is in some way a good thing, displays ignorance beyond belief.
Talk about two sets of rules Martha Stewart was convicted of basically the same thing and did time. F'n Paris Twilton went to jail.
For those who profess to be so f'n smart, (and you know who I'm referring to) blind dedication to the GOP makes you appear dumber than owl sh*t.
Being away from all of this lunacy for a few weeks gave me a different outlook on what I now see as a complete waste of time.
ES, MP Tex, Rex and a few others are folks who at least think with their brains instead of their computers. Very refreshing to say the least.
Later

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Libby was convicted of a crime, sentenced and his appeal was refused. Stating that he shouldn't go to jail, is in some way a good thing, displays ignorance beyond belief.
Talk about two sets of rules Martha Stewart was convicted of basically the same thing and did time. F'n Paris Twilton went to jail.
For those who profess to be so f'n smart, (and you know who I'm referring to) blind dedication to the GOP makes you appear dumber than owl sh*t.
Being away from all of this lunacy for a few weeks gave me a different outlook on what I now see as a complete waste of time.
ES, MP Tex, Rex and a few others are folks who at least think with their brains instead of their computers. Very refreshing to say the least.
Later
Two sets of rules? Indeed! Then I suppose you feel the same about Clinton who SOLD hundreds of pardons to who ever had the bucks to "donate" to his pet causes such as the Clinton Library and the DNC? All the people listed above were tried, convicted, sentenced and pardoned but Libby was not pardoned, just had his conviction commuted but you lefty Clinton nut swingers get your panties all in a wad over Scooter and his lack of jail time. Does Sandy Berger mean anything you or is that different because he had a "D" after his name.

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Two sets of rules? Indeed! Then I suppose you feel the same about Clinton who SOLD hundreds of pardons to who ever had the bucks to "donate" to his pet causes such as the Clinton Library and the DNC? All the people listed above were tried, convicted, sentenced and pardoned but Libby was not pardoned, just had his conviction commuted but you lefty Clinton nut swingers get your panties all in a wad over Scooter and his lack of jail time. Does Sandy Berger mean anything you or is that different because he had a "D" after his name.
What does a "D" or any other letter have to do with justice? "you lefty Clinton nut swingers" Brilliant comment

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Two sets of rules? Indeed! Then I suppose you feel the same about Clinton who SOLD hundreds of pardons to who ever had the bucks to "donate" to his pet causes such as the Clinton Library and the DNC? All the people listed above were tried, convicted, sentenced and pardoned but Libby was not pardoned, just had his conviction commuted but you lefty Clinton nut swingers get your panties all in a wad over Scooter and his lack of jail time. Does Sandy Berger mean anything you or is that different because he had a "D" after his name.
FYI 058, Mr. Bush has issued few pardons himself.
List of people pardoned by George W. Bush
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The following is a partial list of people pardoned by George W. Bush. As of June 29, 2007,[1] President George W. Bush had issued 113 presidential pardons to people who have served their entire sentence, and has commuted in addition the sentences of four people.[2
Charles James Allen (1979 conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)
William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981 conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Timothy Evans Barfield (1989 aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)
David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)
Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975 military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982 possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
Carl E. Cantrell (1967 moonshining)
Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)
Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)
Randall Leece Deal Clayton (1960 and 1964 liquor laws)
Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging)
Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989 making a false statement)
William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)
William Henry Eagle (1972 moonshining)
Mark Alan Eberwine (1985 conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Robert Carter Eversole (1984 theft)
Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)
Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
Anthony Americo Franchi (1983 tax evasion)
Colin Earl Francis (1993 accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991 bank fraud)
Victoria Diane Frost (1994 conspiracy to possess)
William Grover Frye (1968 AWOL and 1973 sale of stolen car)
Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses)
George Glenn (1956 accepting $50 bribe while in military)
Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)
Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)
Stanley Bernard Hamilton 1990 (money order fraud)
Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)
George Thomas Harley (1984 aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)
Melodie Jean Hebert (1984 defrauding U.S. with false claims)
Patricia Ann Hultman (1985 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 moonshining)
James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984 fraudulent firearms dealer records)
Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 and false statement on a loan application)
Devin Timothy Kruse (1979 AWOL from Coast Guard)
Margaret Ann Leggett (1981 false claims)
Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court)
Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)
Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)
Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)
Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)
Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)
Richard Arthur Morse[citation needed] (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)
Joseph Mathew Novak (1994 possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)
Eric William Olson (1984 military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)
Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)
Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
Gerard Murphy Rayne (1972 car theft)
James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
Thomas R. Reece (1969 violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)
John Louis Ribando (1976 and 1978 marijuana dealing)
Larry Gene Ross (1989 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns)
Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property)
John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)
Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)
James Leon Adams Simpsonville (1965 selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)
Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)
Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)
David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)
Jearld David Swanner (1991 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
James Walter Taylor (1991 bank fraud. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)
Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997 theft, convicted in military court)
Janet Theone Upton (1975 mail fraud. pardoned December 21, 2006)
Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)
Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)
Jimmy Lee Williams (1995 false statements on a loan application)
113 with a year and a half left to go. Just another POS politician.

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Hmmmmmm, it seems that some on the left don't like some of President Bush's pardons and some on the right don't like President Clinton's pardons. Does this mean you have a bi-partisan base for a movement to eliminate or restrict the President's power to issue pardons or commute sentences.:idea:

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Hmmmmmm, it seems that some on the left don't like some of President Bush's pardons and some on the right don't like President Clinton's pardons. Does this mean you have a bi-partisan base for a movement to eliminate or restrict the President's power to issue pardons or commute sentences.:idea:
ES,
No. However, I would be interested in being a part of such a movement. It seems that anyone who is a friend of the Prez, can get away with a crime of just about anything. Cocaine possession, auto theft, tax evasion, moonshining, unlawful disposal of hazardous waste, AWOL, just to name a few. Give me a f'n break.

[YeLLowBoaT]

Hmmmmmm, it seems that some on the left don't like some of President Bush's pardons and some on the right don't like President Clinton's pardons. Does this mean you have a bi-partisan base for a movement to eliminate or restrict the President's power to issue pardons or commute sentences.:idea:
That would be practical and logical... so it will never happen.

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FYI 058, Mr. Bush has issued few pardons himself.
List of people pardoned by George W. Bush
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
The following is a partial list of people pardoned by George W. Bush. As of June 29, 2007,[1] President George W. Bush had issued 113 presidential pardons to people who have served their entire sentence, and has commuted in addition the sentences of four people.[2
Charles James Allen (1979 conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)
William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981 conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Timothy Evans Barfield (1989 aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)
David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)
Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975 military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982 possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
Carl E. Cantrell (1967 moonshining)
Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)
Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)
Randall Leece Deal Clayton (1960 and 1964 liquor laws)
Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging)
Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989 making a false statement)
William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)
William Henry Eagle (1972 moonshining)
Mark Alan Eberwine (1985 conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Robert Carter Eversole (1984 theft)
Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)
Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
Anthony Americo Franchi (1983 tax evasion)
Colin Earl Francis (1993 accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991 bank fraud)
Victoria Diane Frost (1994 conspiracy to possess)
William Grover Frye (1968 AWOL and 1973 sale of stolen car)
Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses)
George Glenn (1956 accepting $50 bribe while in military)
Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)
Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)
Stanley Bernard Hamilton 1990 (money order fraud)
Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)
George Thomas Harley (1984 aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)
Melodie Jean Hebert (1984 defrauding U.S. with false claims)
Patricia Ann Hultman (1985 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 moonshining)
James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984 fraudulent firearms dealer records)
Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 and false statement on a loan application)
Devin Timothy Kruse (1979 AWOL from Coast Guard)
Margaret Ann Leggett (1981 false claims)
Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court)
Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)
Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)
Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)
Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)
Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)
Richard Arthur Morse[citation needed] (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)
Joseph Mathew Novak (1994 possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)
Eric William Olson (1984 military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)
Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)
Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)
Gerard Murphy Rayne (1972 car theft)
James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)
Thomas R. Reece (1969 violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)
John Louis Ribando (1976 and 1978 marijuana dealing)
Larry Gene Ross (1989 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns)
Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property)
John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)
Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)
James Leon Adams Simpsonville (1965 selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)
Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)
Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)
David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)
Jearld David Swanner (1991 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
James Walter Taylor (1991 bank fraud. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)
Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997 theft, convicted in military court)
Janet Theone Upton (1975 mail fraud. pardoned December 21, 2006)
Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)
Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)
Jimmy Lee Williams (1995 false statements on a loan application)
113 with a year and a half left to go. Just another POS politician.Just wondering how much money Bush made by selling these pardons.

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Just wondering how much money Bush made by selling these pardons.
Probabally much more than he should have. My guess is that his pardons for cocaine convictions were done on the barter system
Executive pardons are bullsh*t given by any party. Duh!!