ive had a 3 point fall over on me once, but only because it was on the dirt. ok so im a redneck and didnt have concrete to work on. have you seen the price of a yard of concrete these days? lol anyhow, i have 4 engine stands and the old three points are much stronger it seems than those store bought 4 points. with the (1) 4 point i have, i made a front section and used a VW engine stand that has 2 curved arms that line up to the two large bolt holes on the front of a BBC. i centered both pivot sections so the engine can still spin, but now the front is also supported. with a long block i am allways scared to rotate the engine without the front support. oh and i also welded the 4 point stand at all the sections were they were only bolted. now to really top it off and make it total redneck, i also welded spindles and mounted large pnuematic tires and wheels so it can be drug across the dirt if need be. :rollside: