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  1. #1
    centerhill condor
    so, therefore dems are commies.
    As an example, recently the US legislature passed an expansion of the Federal Child healthcare program to include a family of 4 making $84,000 and "children" up to age 25.
    This would be paid for with a tax levied on health insurance premiums you and I pay! So, the dems would bankrupt the free market health insurance system in order to "force" you to get on the gov't program.
    Now, you may say to yourself, "this isn't communism..they're just trying to help average Americans"...well let's look at medicaire/medicaid.
    Under these programs doctors haven't had a price increase since '01. Many doctors aren't accepting new gov't patients. Therefore denying benefits to the very people they're trying to "help".
    When the gov't determines who gets what and sets the price; that is communism. Ask any immigrants. 165 russians die for every 100 born. If you are sick in Russia you die...unless you can buy your own.
    This is what the dems would implement here 'cause this is the only country where communism hasn't failed...not for a lack of tryin'.
    This week the Fed and other central banks have added some $Billions of your cheap money to the debt market to prevent investors from realizing the risks of their poor investment choices under the guise of keeping people from losing houses they couldn't afford in the first place.
    Then there's restrictions on your rights as written in the Constitution...pick your favorite. Establishing rights that don't exist to cause and take political advantage of class, race, gender, insert "diversity" here. You want to unite...stand up for equal protection under the law. A constitutional right in black and white.
    Since the '70s real taxes have increased by roughly 70% on families to pay for programs to subsidize destruction of the family...and we complain about increased bankruptcy.
    Show me where any of the "social" programs have helped to unite, improve, or strengthen our country.
    If we could return to a constitutional form of gov't...we'd put a bunch of lobbyists, lawyers, and bankers into the work force. No wonder they resist with such fervor!
    CC

  2. #2
    ULTRA26 # 1
    so, therefore dems are commies.
    As an example, recently the US legislature passed an expansion of the Federal Child healthcare program to include a family of 4 making $84,000 and "children" up to age 25.
    This would be paid for with a tax levied on health insurance premiums you and I pay! So, the dems would bankrupt the free market health insurance system in order to "force" you to get on the gov't program.
    Now, you may say to yourself, "this isn't communism..they're just trying to help average Americans"...well let's look at medicaire/medicaid.
    Under these programs doctors haven't had a price increase since '01. Many doctors aren't accepting new gov't patients. Therefore denying benefits to the very people they're trying to "help".
    When the gov't determines who gets what and sets the price; that is communism. Ask any immigrants. 165 russians die for every 100 born. If you are sick in Russia you die...unless you can buy your own.
    This is what the dems would implement here 'cause this is the only country where communism hasn't failed...not for a lack of tryin'.
    This week the Fed and other central banks have added some $Billions of your cheap money to the debt market to prevent investors from realizing the risks of their poor investment choices under the guise of keeping people from losing houses they couldn't afford in the first place.
    Then there's restrictions on your rights as written in the Constitution...pick your favorite. Establishing rights that don't exist to cause and take political advantage of class, race, gender, insert "diversity" here. You want to unite...stand up for equal protection under the law. A constitutional right in black and white.
    Since the '70s real taxes have increased by roughly 70% on families to pay for programs to subsidize destruction of the family...and we complain about increased bankruptcy.
    Show me where any of the "social" programs have helped to unite, improve, or strengthen our country.
    If we could return to a constitutional form of gov't...we'd put a bunch of lobbyists, lawyers, and bankers into the work force. No wonder they resist with such fervor!
    CC
    Proof positive that some Republicans are morons.
    Example 1 is unverifiable. Post support
    Now, you may say to yourself, "this isn't communism..they're just trying to help average Americans"...well let's look at medicaire/medicaid.
    Under these programs doctors haven't had a price increase since '01. Many doctors aren't accepting new gov't patients. Therefore denying benefits to the very people they're trying to "help".
    Hospitals, and the doctors who operate these facilities are f.n thieves. Example from experience same doctor myself private insurance my ex Medicare. A full blood panel price. Private $180.00 Medicare $760.00.
    As a result of the Republican Congress (and the drug lobby) Drug prices under Medicare are not negotiable. Example: Lipitor. Annual Medicare cost over $1,400.00. Annual cost Vet Administration $160. Medicare pays nearly 1000% more. The Democratic congress has been discussing a bill to eliminate fixed drug prices for Medicare and W has promised to Veto. I have a 60 year old friend, male non-smoker. His monthly non-group health insurance premium, $1,400.00.
    The system is broken.
    This week the Fed and other central banks have added some $Billions of your cheap money to the debt market to prevent investors from realizing the risks of their poor investment choices under the guise of keeping people from losing houses they couldn't afford in the first place.
    This was a great move, NOT!. Devalue the dollar a bit more, and a bit more inflation. It's OK to add a few more billion to the almost 9 trillion dollar debt. Again, NOT! Just more BS to make the economy look good. IMO, it's going to get worse before Bush leave office.
    Then there's restrictions on your rights as written in the Constitution...pick your favorite. Establishing rights that don't exist to cause and take political advantage of class, race, gender, insert "diversity" here. You want to unite...stand up for equal protection under the law. A constitutional right in black and white.
    I agree completly.
    Show me where any of the "social" programs have helped to unite, improve, or strengthen our country.
    Care for this Country's elderly
    If we could return to a constitutional form of gov't...we'd put a bunch of lobbyists, lawyers, and bankers into the work force. No wonder they resist with such fervor!
    Opps we agree again. CC are you sure you anit one lefty liberal commies, which are the subject of this thread

  3. #3
    centerhill condor
    8/02/2007
    Despite a veto threat from President Bush, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation expanding the State Children's Health Insurance program (SCHIP) for low-income families.
    The House voted 225-204, mostly along party-lines, for a bill that would increase the SCHIP program by an estimated $50 billion over five years, financed mainly by a tax increase on cigarettes and cuts to Medicare payouts to private health insurers. This expansion is expected to provide coverage for as many as 6 million children currently without health care.
    In a July 18 statement, Bush said the proposals in Congress were too broad. "It was a program initially designed to help poor families afford health care for their children." Bush said. "Members of Congress have decided, however, to expand the program to include, in some cases, up to families earning $80,000 a year, which would cause people to drop their private insurance in order to be involved with a government insurance plan."
    The Senate is expected to pass on a $35 billion companion bill that also would be financed by higher taxes on tobacco products.
    Example 1 is unverifiable. Post support
    Hospitals, and the doctors who operate these facilities are f.n thieves. The system is broken.
    Show me where any of the "social" programs have helped to unite, improve, or strengthen our country.
    Care for this Country's elderly
    Your response merely proves you must be spoon fed or you will starve. Typical liberal commie type mantra...like I would lie to you...
    Next time you go see your doctor be sure and tell him what you think....
    and if you have the time would you type your thoughts on what is and isn't "constitutional"?
    If the system is broken throw it out.
    CC

  4. #4
    centerhill condor
    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    That is the second principle of the manifesto..
    At a San Francisco fundraiser in 2004- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., told wealthy supporters the government will need to take money away from them for the "common good."
    Clinton headlined an appearance with other women Democratic senators in San Francisco, where donors gave as much as $10,000 to California Sen. Barbara Boxer's campaign.
    "Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you," Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.
    "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
    This statement from Hillary Clinton says it all, it comes directly from the Communist Manifesto. We will take from the rich for the "Common Good", ignoring the fact that by doing so would take jobs directly from the American people, causing the job unemployment rate to rise again.
    [From the Communist Manifesto written in 1848]
    In the national struggles of the proletarians of the different countries, they point out and bring to the front the common interests of the entire proletariat, independently of all nationality.
    (By proletariat, the class of modern wage labourers who, having no means of production of their own, are reduced to selling their labour power in order to live. [Engels, 1888 English edition] )
    The immediate aim of the Communists is the same as that of all other proletarian parties: Formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political power by the proletariat.
    (By bourgeoisie is meant the class of modern capitalists, owners of the means of social production and employers of wage labour).
    The distinguishing feature of communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property. But modern bourgeois private property is the final and most complete expression of the system of producing and appropriating products that is based on class antagonisms, on the exploitation of the many by the few.
    In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.
    Are you beginning to see how much of the Liberal Democratic message comes directly from the Communist Manifesto and where it is leading you?
    More from the Communist Manifesto on "Common Property"
    When, therefore, capital is converted into common property, into the property of all members of society, personal property is not thereby transformed into social property. It is only the social character of the property that is changed. It loses its class character.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I lifted this from another site...my best instinct tells me your pretty boat, truck, and vacation home would be subject to conversion into "common property"...where would you be without being hindered with all these programs designed to "help" you? better off!
    CC

  5. #5
    SmokinLowriderSS
    Proof positive that some Republicans are morons.
    Example 1 is unverifiable. Post support
    And by now you'da thunk he'd be smarter than to tell you, Tex, and I to SOURCE something.
    DOH!!!! That's gonna leave a mark.
    Yet another step in cradle-to grave socialism, and I QUALIFY for this one! And he WANTS Hillary to get in charge to implement this destructive crap.

  6. #6
    ULTRA26 # 1
    8/02/2007
    Despite a veto threat from President Bush, the U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation expanding the State Children's Health Insurance program (SCHIP) for low-income families.
    The House voted 225-204, mostly along party-lines, for a bill that would increase the SCHIP program by an estimated $50 billion over five years, financed mainly by a tax increase on cigarettes and cuts to Medicare payouts to private health insurers. This expansion is expected to provide coverage for as many as 6 million children currently without health care.
    In a July 18 statement, Bush said the proposals in Congress were too broad. "It was a program initially designed to help poor families afford health care for their children." Bush said. "Members of Congress have decided, however, to expand the program to include, in some cases, up to families earning $80,000 a year, which would cause people to drop their private insurance in order to be involved with a government insurance plan."
    The Senate is expected to pass on a $35 billion companion bill that also would be financed by higher taxes on tobacco products.
    Your response merely proves you must be spoon fed or you will starve. Typical liberal commie type mantra...like I would lie to you...
    Next time you go see your doctor be sure and tell him what you think....
    and if you have the time would you type your thoughts on what is and isn't "constitutional"?
    If the system is broken throw it out.
    CC
    The above is straight from "NursesWorld.Com. CC get your facts straight before posting.
    Your 1st post stated that this program was to be funded by a tax on private health insurance isurance premiums. Now you post that this is to be financed mainly by a tax increase on cigarettes and cuts to Medicare payouts to private health insurers and higher taxes on tobacco products. Big difference.
    U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation expanding the State Children's Health Insurance program (SCHIP) for low-income families. THe keyword here being State. ???
    If you try to spoon feed me garbage I will spit it out, just as I'm doing.
    I suggest that you start doing the same.
    The remody for a broken system is to fix it which doesn't mean putting a band-aid on it.
    Start using your head CC

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  8. #8
    ULTRA26 # 1
    This says it all!
    Steve,
    CC already posted that comment.

  9. #9
    Steve 1
    So what??

  10. #10
    Blown 472
    Never mind the fact that gdumbya has gone to a commie country to get money for his war and handed the keys to this country to the commies, nice very nice, so all your stupid ass dems are commie shit just goes right out the window.

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