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  1. #21
    spectras only
    I tought it's a lot of blah blah blah about matching #'s too

  2. #22
    meaniam
    here you go i knew i had this somewhere. just couldnt remember:
    1970
    In 1970, there were two different SS packages available. One was the "Z25" SS-396 and the other was the "Z15" SS-454. There were only two engine choices for the SS-396: the 350 and 375 horsepower versions. It was a confusing year for 396 buyers. The 396 engines now actually displaced 402 cubic inches, but were still called a "396" when installed in an SS. There was also a new 330 horsepower "LS3" big-block "400" engine option available for the non-SS Malibu and El Camino Custom. To confuse things even further, there was a 400 cubic inch 2-bbl small-block available (only in the '70 Monte Carlo).
    The Malibu "400" big-block was also actually a 402, and was basically an overbored version of the 325 horsepower 396 motor that had been available on the '68 and '69 SSs. The "Malibu 400" package, produced from '70-'72 on the Chevelle and El Camino is fairly scarce today. The reason is that many of these big-block vehicles have been converted to SS clones. In stock form, the Malibu 400 and El Camino 400 carried "400" emblems on the fenders.
    A very limited number of SS Chevelles with the 375 HP 396 and the "L89" aluminum heads were produced in '70.
    There were two engines available for the '70 SS-454 : the 360 horsepower "LS5" and the 450 horsepower "LS6". The '70 LS5 Chevelle is actually rarer than the '70 LS6 Chevelle. The LS6 was only available in the '70 Chevelle, the '70 El Camino, and the '71 Corvette. It was never available to the public in *any* other cars. The '70 LS5 motor used in the Corvette was identical to the Chevelle LS5, but for marketing reasons the Corvette rating was 390 horsepower. There was purported to be one known LS6 Chevelle with the L89 aluminum head option, but it is now generally believed that this car (and its documentation) is fake. Chevrolet also had an experimental LS7 engine that was supposed to be available in the '70 Corvette, but never materialized. However, the LS7 heads were available over the counter at GM dealers in '71 and '72. No factory built LS7 cars were ever sold to the public.
    The '70 & up SS now had a completely different dash than the non-SS models. The '70 SS would have either "SS/396" or "SS/454" emblems on the fenders (and on the tailgate of the El Camino). The Chevelle SS had a white "SS" logo in the black rubber pad on the rear bumper. Both the Chevelle SS and El Camino SS had a large "SS" grille emblem (without any engine size).
    The SS models also had a hood with a large bulge in the rear center. Hood stripes were an extra cost option with this hood. There was also a "Cowl Induction" option available. It had "Cowl Induction" emblems on either side of the bulge and a door on the top of the bulge that would open automatically when the engine needed extra air. The Cowl Induction option was NOT standard on any SS - it was always an extra cost item. The Cowl Induction option came with hood stripes. You could, however, delete the Cowl Induction stripes at no cost.You could get the stipes without the Cowl Induction option (at additional cost). All of the '70-'72 SS cars came with hood pins, except for some of the early '70 models (those built around April of 1970 or earlier) that were not ordered with Cowl Induction.
    The '70 SS came with the same wheels used on the '69s.
    it not really much to help out on finding wheather it is or isnot a ss but it is a little bit of trivia
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    tell-tale signs that might help you know if the car was a real ss car;
    all big block cars had a 3/8ths fuel line, malibus would have had 1/4 inch- look at the area where the line goes up over the rear shock upper mount. to replace the line you would have to lift the body off the frame, so whatever size you have there is probably what it came with.

  3. #23
    lucky
    He only has the l-88 and he Will not sell just the engine - I tried !!!!! lol
    does it have the right 396 or just the l88?
    i would try and work a deal out with him to sell it and maybe you might make a couple of bucks. use teamchevelle for example. just be ready to earn your money. if anyone dought me JORDY i will post examples. and tear aparts the fake ss on ebay to show you what clones are selling for.
    Jordy Quote:
    Originally Posted by meaniam
    i thought about this alot last night. and came up with this. the people who are not up on what these cars sell for, the people who dont deal with these cars everyday. are the same people who dont understand what these cars sell for everyday.
    Wow, that's pretty deep. So you're saying that the people who don't know what they sell for are the same people who don't know what they sell for???
    Personally, I think it's kind of a stretch.
    i relize i might not have made sence. but here it goes ill see if i could do better.
    those that dont know about the cars never owned one and never tried to own one or just dont even care. always say that is bullshit. and always recives sticker shock when they find out. barrett jackson is the most extream of the pricing. hemming i always thought was on the high side tell lately. and i see they are the example everyone uses. including insurance companies. ebay will get you what there worth. with a good discription. documentation help a ton. and agian the buyers will work you to death. but it is what it goes for.
    i be willing to bet people would yell bullshit on this site. if i said i could get 15k for my ls6 454 motor only not a warrenty block. and i know it would be sold by monday with money order SENT OVER NIGHT IN MY HAND. now if i put that in a 70 chevelle 454 with documentation like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cheve...64QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem id proably get 45k if i restored it placed all the right paint lines on it id have one of the hottest selling cars not just chevelles on barrett jacksons lot.
    why dont i do this first i dont have 60k just sitting around. 2nd they will only become more desirable. and 3rd i will wait tell i find the chevelle 454 ls6 car with the right production month. which will cost a load of cash. and take a long time tell i get it. imagine if i found the conv.

  4. #24
    lucky
    I suggest you pu a classic car trader -- i got one yesteday and there is a shit load of el camino's and also chevelles -- somthing would fit ya !

  5. #25
    meaniam
    forget about the l88 i dont think it was made in 1977 unless thru the parts counter i think l88 were in cars like the 68 vet and if you knew what the engine belonged to you could make some cash. by selling the block.
    i dont know much about the vets. other then clippinger had a few l88 vets they raced. but i wasnt around back then.
    and a 70 chevelle with no motor not worth anything close to 15k.
    the car would have to be clean as hell. and running or something special to make it worth 15k

  6. #26
    spectras only
    and a 70 chevelle with no motor not worth anything close to 15k.
    the car would have to be clean as hell. and running or something special to make it worth 15k
    If I found a 1970 Chevelle without an engine , This would go in it right now instead of the spectra :rollside:
    http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/IMG_1759.JPG]

  7. #27
    lucky
    forget about the l88 i dont think it was made in 1977 unless thru the parts counter i think l88 were in cars like the 68 vet and if you knew what the engine belonged to you could make some cash. by selling the block.
    i dont know much about the vets. other then clippinger had a few l88 vets they raced. but i wasnt around back then.
    and a 70 chevelle with no motor not worth anything close to 15k.
    the car would have to be clean as hell. and running or something special to make it worth 15k
    It was 1 of the last offered threw the parts counter -

  8. #28
    RVRGIRL
    RIVERRATMIKE would be a good person to ask. He has a 68 El Camino.
    You can email him at : Michael Minery [parkerriverrat@npgcable.com]

  9. #29
    boatslayer
    hey Bruce ill check it out for ya and tell ya what its worth ,

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