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  1. #31
    Elk Chaser
    As an old HVAC Tech (among other things) I completely understand the "pump curve" as it is a standard measurement of an impeller (or a fan for that matter) and the proporational relationship of the required HP to turn it at a specific RPM. (It is manufacturer specific to a small degree)
    One thing not mentioned and maybe no one really cares is that you can closely predict the amount of water/air being moved also.
    My question is that the Berkley pump curve chart (at least the one I found) does not go above the A2 cut.
    I was running (before I tore the boat apart) a 4A Berk impeller at 4000 RPM WOT, what does that say about HP?
    If I estimate the chart based upon the pump curves staying proportional from the A2 to the A3 and A4 cuts then I estimate somewhere between 350 and 400 HP. Anybody know of or have a chart for the A4 cut on a Berk?

  2. #32
    Wild Man
    Where can you find any of these pump charts?

  3. #33
    pops1
    Squirtcha?:
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by skeepwerkzaz:
    [qb] Squirtcha?
    I think we're talking apples and oranges to a degree. I'm running an Aggressor A impeller that has been cut down to an AB. I've always heard (and maybe Pops 1 can add something here) that there is a half size difference between Berkeley and Aggressor. In other words an Aggessor AB would rev about the same as a Berkeley A? Not sure if that's right or not though, or if it is...........why it is.
    Ye-ouch
    Just noticed the price of a stainless impeller. Holy crap dat's a lota scratch. Squirtcha- Aggressor "B" is everyone else "A"
    so your running 1/2 Cut over "A" which would be a A+ to most others.
    .....WHY is
    Frontal Load (Bite), Duration
    of water ride,and from 6- to 32 cfm @ RPM.
    Impeller in its produced state was intended
    to be a Blue Printed standard, and is ran
    by most racers as produced stock.
    Tooling has been flowed & vane standard
    is min. thickness(Volumn Flow).
    Alloy standards were selected for specific
    HP ranges. IE Alum to 450/Mag Bronze 1200/
    17-4 Stainless 1200+ to Fuel Boats.
    The Impeller is designed for Performance
    Improvment, not for your everyday beat
    around to fly or eat rocks.
    The Bulk has been removed in design.& will
    not require a $250.00 Grind Job to open
    passages up. "You can't open them more"
    You can remove Outside Bulk on Mag &
    Stainless- We ask to guide you, HP VS
    outside wall thickness.
    Blue Printing is reduced to a specific Cut, Bowl entree/exit line up, Stuffer and the net fits.
    In Simple, Its Load/Duration/ & Volumn Output.
    Stainless Cost- Is high-
    It tears machines & cutters up, you loose a % of each load due to extream heat @ pour-(Inner core shifts due to heat)
    Mag Bronze is the proven alternative (not Bronze or Alum Bronze) it exceed most others Stainless @ 1/2 the Cost.
    Well proven on Big HP across the country.
    [ October 03, 2003, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: pops1 ]

  4. #34
    1FastHallett
    thanx for the information. i dont know who the manufacturer is of my impeller, i bought the energizer kit wich came from american turbin. so i would assume then that they make the impeller, but i dont know. where can i get this information?

  5. #35
    1FastHallett
    and also thank you flat broke, i will be giving him a call!

  6. #36
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    Thanks for the clarification Pops. I won't pretend to understand every word of it, but it did help answer some of my questions. I'll be taking a closer look at the mag bronze when the time comes to replace again.

  7. #37
    LVjetboy
    screamdreambrad,
    Impeller curve for Aggressor B @ 5900 = 650 hp. To compare to dyno run you'd need to adjust this number to account for differences in temp, presssure, humidity, configuration, etc. between lake and dyno.
    jer

  8. #38
    skeepwerkzaz
    OK,
    So if I can turn 5600 fairly easily I am doing alright. I have only been out with it four times since project completion, and haven't felt good about flooring it yet, I still have an oil leak that must be fixed before I really lay into it. I hope that when I get it tuned perfectly and my bugs worked out I may be able to sneak up near 6K. What kind of speed do you think that will translate to in a Nordic Jet? Any bets, guesses???
    Clay

  9. #39
    LVjetboy
    How fast at 5600? Then I'll guess.

    jer

  10. #40
    skeepwerkzaz
    Dunno,
    Haven't GPS'd it.

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