Reply With Quoteyeah, what he said
Is it me or are these fourms turning to shit? I have had a few people say to me "you are actually on those fourms" these are people in the boating industry. I am going to name any names at all. This has been said to me on more then one occasion "all that you do there is listen to a bunch of people whine, fight and talk about nothing" and "every time someone asks something in there it gets shot down and turned into something else" or "because someone does something different and it does not fit the standard, everyone talks shit about them". These were things all said to me to some extent or another.
I could not disagree with these comments. I just thought after hearing this a few times that it was time to post it.
I think things need to start changing around here though. I am going to do my best. Everyone needs to chill out and start talking boats again. If the fourms don't change soon, then I am gone because I almost feel embarassed to say that I am on here when someone asks me about it. Its like days of our lives, Nothing but drama.
[ March 22, 2003, 01:34 AM: Message edited by: Bense468 ]
yeah, what he said
No one person is going to change anything. The only way to change anything is to not post on the drama threads. It takes all kinds of people to make something like this work and there are always going to be personalities clashing its just a fact of life. It is how you deal with it that makes these things work.
One recommendation i can think of is maybe go through and clean the sandbar from all the junk threads periodically because all the crying doesn't look good to new people coming on the board.
I have been reading the boards for over 2 years off and on. I have seen a lot of good people leave for just this reason. Its to bad the board has missed out on some good knowledge.
Problem is one man's junk is another man's jewel. As soon as threads are deleted, locked, or edited, the screaming is deafening. I agree it's a problem and I know for a fact good people are leaving and / or spending much less time on Hot Boat. Just don't know how to solve it while not infringing on anyone's right to free speech.
I am all for freedom of speech, but just like in a place of business there are rules.
For example if you go to a restaruant and are causing a scene you will probably be ask to calm down, then asked to leave, then if you are still causing a scene you will probably be escorted out.
Someone has to draw the line on where it stops. In this situation though should it be the moderators that do a thankless job for nothing? I don't really think so.
I am just rambling off the top of my head not that i have any answers. Just some food for thought.
Happens every year until the season starts...
Havasu Hangin':
Happens every year until the season starts... Sure glad it is starting wink I started reading these last year and it seemed fine during the summer time.
JetBoatRich:
Sure glad it is starting wink I started reading these last year and it seemed fine during the summer time....Yeah...I hear ya. Last year it was attacked of the trolls...this year, it seems to be "family bickering"...
...however, when the season starts...then it's usually back to the important stuff...nice weather, drinking heavily, and what broke on your boat...
IMHO, they should have used anonymous Mods. I expressed this to the Admin when he went to Mods.
When people know who the Mods are they give them a hard time. Some Mods might be less inclined to take action on something because they know there would be a back lash directed at them. They also shouldn't use controversial people for Mods. Being a post ***** only means you have no life, not that you have an ability or the skills necessary to moderate.
On some of the larger forums I belong to, as soon as there is a personal attack that goes too far or inappropriate material is posted, the thread gets locked or deleted. The responsible party then gets locked out of the site (given a "vacation") for a week or two so they can't post. Serious offenders are banned. If they come back under another name they are banned again and their ISP contacted. This requires that members only be allowed to register from their ISP mail accounts. No Yahoo, Hotmail, etc.
On one forum the entire IP range of AOL is banned so that no one from AOL can post. There were too many problems with AOL kiddies.
Spring is here, 70 degees here.
The forums will pick up.
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