The big Kurtis was called a glider not an airplane it was a 500 not a 501 . Eddie hills First texan was a Kindsvater ran as a Kurtis , The glider was a Kindsvater and Hondo before it was a Kurtis , The 501 mold mid size was built at Kurtis by Dale Lambert and Kelly ? at Kurtis, nobody but Kurtis had the 501 until Arlen sold out. During the Kurtis hydro glory days Dale Lambert had as much or more to do with the success of Kurtis as Faggartt . Ted sold alot of boats but Dale made them run. Sam Hondo never heard that one before ? :wink: