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  1. #21
    Kindsvater Flat
    Originally posted by BILLY.B
    Yeah you do....Need I remind you that Cousin Bob stays there from time to time. And he's been known to rome around in his sleep. SO BE CAREFUL CHIEF !!!
    I best be sleepin' with my back in the corner!

  2. #22
    infotraker
    A little off the subject but did anyone know Jack Mottram in the flat racing scene in Ca during the 80's and early ninetees ? He drove Douglas Express (I think a Kurtis). He started with a Schiada in the 70s. I build my 68 Schiada flat in his shop in 68 (still have) and bought my 85 Vette from him in 2000 just before he pasted away from cancer.
    Jim

  3. #23
    BOAT ANCHOR
    Before driving Crazy Horse, Al Bush drove his personal Blown Fuel Flat by the name of IRON HORSE. It was a 1974 Kurtis with a bottom that had huge runners (over 1 inch deep). He took over the driving duties on the Crazy Horse boat after Rick Lee (Ski Centurion Fame) flipped/crashed the boat at Long Beach Marine Stadium in 1975. Who is SAM AND PEGGY HONDO???.It was Irv Brendel and his wife Peggy who owned Hondo Boats. It was the Great "Rapid Raymond Caselli" in his Hondo BFF 007 Panic Mouse and all the success the Panic Mouse boat had, as well as some others (Sonny Jones, Del Palmer, Jeff Spitzig, Del Macino, Mike Brendel, Wyane Mettler, Virgil Feilds, Jim Cole) that helped to propel Hondo Boats to the success that they were, LONG BEFORE Al Bush ever got his hands one. After Bush got his hands on one, he certianly contributed to Hondo's sucuess. Howard Brown and Jim Cole never swapped flatbottom and cruiser molds or splashed each others boats. Irv Brendel splashed Howards extremely successful (at the time) hydro (Down n Out) some time in 1971. After Irv introduced the XH-511his FIRST Runner Bottom (HONDO)in late 1971, Howard decided to get back at Irv for splashing his hydro, and splashed Irvs XH-511, and called it the Howard XH-512.Irv and Howard use to place ads in Raceboat and Industry News on oppoising pages advertising their boats.Irvs ad would be on the left page saying "Introducing the new Hondo XH-511", and on the right page Howard's ad would read "Introducing the new Howard XH-512 Tunnel Runner, JUST ONE BETTER." It was a great ad.Wyane Mettler started his boating career at Hondo Boats in the late 1960s/early 70s(he drove Bob And Mona Watts Unblown Fuel Flatbottom "FRANTIC RAT") He was there until 76 or 77, when he went to work for Jim Cole. He didn't stay at Coles very long, and was doing installations out of his house on bare hulls that he purchased from Sonny DiMarco.He called his business Canyon Marine (due to it's location in Canyon Country Ca.) and sometime in the early 80s he purchased Sonny DiMarcos molds (Sonny had to close down his business and sell his molds due to a law suit) moved into a shop and Canyon Marine was under way.

  4. #24
    vdriver4ever
    My brother Mike and I used to help Roy Gollott in the early to mid 70's. He held the BGH record for a long time in "swamp rat". Roy had a shovel nose sanger. Roy came from the e-class eliminator ranks running a stevens in the early 60's. He also popped a mold off the Agua Craft and made Aqua Maid's in the late 60's and 70's and ran some of the early super stock races. Roy also pulled my mom and brother at the ski races in the early 60's with that stevens. All his boats were called Swamp Rat and then he would just as a numeral to the end as he built new ones.

  5. #25
    Jim Hall
    Let's go a further back. I remember the pre fiberglas day's. Barry McGowan (Banzai) (The Thing), do not remember who drove, both Wooden TFH Hallet hydro's. There was also the D&H "sled's that were fun to watch. Another fun one to watch was a green homemade TFH (The Witch with a "B") it had very little freeboard and remember him sinking it on the beach, had a blown Pontiac. The original "Panic Mouse" was a glass Guasti a real handfull to drive, way over powered 16 footer. I also remember Steven's was experimenting with a hydro along with Biesmeyer. It was great back then it seemed like everybody had their own idea of what would work and alot of experimenting going on

  6. #26
    haulina29
    The big Kurtis was called a glider not an airplane it was a 500 not a 501 . Eddie hills First texan was a Kindsvater ran as a Kurtis , The glider was a Kindsvater and Hondo before it was a Kurtis , The 501 mold mid size was built at Kurtis by Dale Lambert and Kelly ? at Kurtis, nobody but Kurtis had the 501 until Arlen sold out. During the Kurtis hydro glory days Dale Lambert had as much or more to do with the success of Kurtis as Faggartt . Ted sold alot of boats but Dale made them run. Sam Hondo never heard that one before ? :wink:

  7. #27
    dossangers
    My dad was selling boats for guasti heres onehttp://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/524/167dad_pic_16.bmp

  8. #28
    ACCEPTENCE
    Originally posted by BILLY.B
    Yeah you do....Need I remind you that Cousin Bob stays there from time to time. And he's been known to rome around in his sleep. SO BE CAREFUL CHIEF !!!
    Just Fokin classic, you guys are funny.
    It's all good there Chiefys, Fun is good to have and I'm the ring leader in that department. We'll be havin so much fun you'll have to slap the smile off your face when your done.
    Oh yeah about Cousin Bob...he's a peach.
    He is lookin to spank the Bolt Nazi again!!!!!
    Camp Acceptence welcomes all!!!!!

  9. #29
    BILLY.B
    Originally posted by BOAT ANCHOR
    Before driving Crazy Horse, Al Bush drove his personal Blown Fuel Flat by the name of IRON HORSE. It was a 1974 Kurtis with a bottom that had huge runners (over 1 inch deep). He took over the driving duties on the Crazy Horse boat after Rick Lee (Ski Centurion Fame) flipped/crashed the boat at Long Beach Marine Stadium in 1975. Wrong....Al Bush had been beached for running inside the bouys at Long Beach when Crazy Horse got out of shape at the start and came towards the crowd. Bush restaged the boat and ran inside the bouys to the finish. He was beached for few races and Rick Lee took over the driving duties and promtly flipped the the Horse at the Beach...Rick Lee was a JET boat driver also.

  10. #30
    smalls
    Originally posted by BILLY.B
    Wrong....Al Bush had been beached for running inside the bouys at Long Beach when Crazy Horse got out of shape at the start and came towards the crowd. Bush restaged the boat and ran inside the bouys to the finish. He was beached for few races and Rick Lee took over the driving duties and promtly flipped the the Horse at the Beach...Rick Lee was a JET boat driver also.
    I did miss on a couple of names. It was Kenny Macintosh not Sam Kurtovich. It was Gary Meskovich not Gary Kincaid. I still am pretty sure Crazy Horse ran once over 180,
    GM

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