After spending a week in Havi March 26-31 I was not impressed with the lake. Maybe we hit a bad week for people. There was no one there and if there was people there it was all guys. What happen to MTV and girls gone wild? I am use to LOTO and there is no comaparison. If anyone wants a road trip they need to hit LOTO. The most we ever saw at Copper Canyon was 10 boats tied up. I have seen the pictures of that place packed. I guess that is the summer?? There is just a lot more bars/restaurants at LOTO and bigger faster boats. I hope that I can return sometime when it is busy.