thanks Ducky, now we know who serious is! It's great to hear from a fellow flipper (I crashed in 2004) in that he has survived a bad one and can now post! Man, I remember my mild one and I have mucho sympathy for Chad after bathing in that foul stuff called Chandler water.....I hear from our Nosty group who were there and they said you were running good! Heal well during the Holidays!