Gambling in California Vote coming up

[keithj714]

So how does you feel about it?
Personally, I'm for it, I really can't see a good reason why not.

[jbtrailerjim]

I'm for it. It will create revenue and job's for the state. I'd rather see people spend there money in our state than spend it over the border in Nevada. I'm sure Nevada does not want to see it happen though.

[Red Eye]

Never heard about it. What's the deal?

[OGShocker]

In 1985, we lost our factory to an arson fire. The fire was set to mask a burglary which netted the thief $200.00 in cash. His name is John Arthur Paquette an employee of our company at the time. John brought his then eight year old daughter along that night. A night that put some 25 employees on the street for two months. John's reason for the break in and arson fire? He was/is a compulsive gambler. He blew his entire paycheck on lotto scratchers I did not make a dime. That night in 1985 called on 12 engine companies from 4 different cities. He placed the lives of those fire fighters at risk so he could steal $200.00 and go gamble some more. So, when some folks think gambling is just fine and should be allowed anywhere, should wonder is some POS like, John Arthur Paquette, is hanging around their house or business.
Kind of a long way to say I will be voting against it.

[carbonmarine]

For it.
Revenue creation is foremost...only not in my Backyard...Beaumont sounds fine.
Rick32

[keithj714]

Never heard about it. What's the deal?
It's to legalize Nevada style casino gaming in California both in and outside of Indian reservations, the ads are starting to come out for and against.

[Red Eye]

It's to legalize Nevada style casino gaming in California both in and outside of Indian reservations, the ads are starting to come out for and against.
In that case, yes but only if it'd stay in very rural areas away from big cities.

[Drunk tank]

Ya.... I'm all for it! Be good for cali as revenue and also... anyone worried about people being addicted to gambling, well, if theyre addicted it doesnt matter if the casino is here or in vegas. Theyll go. Think about vegas as well... place is beautiful! (for the most part). So my guess is where ever the casinos go in... eventuallly the casinos will start helping to improve the surrounding areas. People are more likley to go to a clean city rather than a dirty crappy one.

[eliminatedsprinter]

No strong feelings either way. There seem to be just as many pros and con's so it's a wash for me...My natural libertarian leanings will probably have me vote for it. After all, I gotta vote for the option that allwows for more freedom. If people want to piss their money away that's their choice. Gambling is a tax for the mathmatically impaired.... :eat: But at least it's one they pay by choice....

[RiverDave]

In 1985, we lost our factory to an arson fire. The fire was set to mask a burglary which netted the thief $200.00 in cash. His name is John Arthur Paquette an employee of our company at the time. John brought his then eight year old daughter along that night. A night that put some 25 employees on the street for two months. John's reason for the break in and arson fire? He was/is a compulsive gambler. He blew his entire paycheck on lotto scratchers I did not make a dime. That night in 1985 called on 12 engine companies from 4 different cities. He placed the lives of those fire fighters at risk so he could steal $200.00 and go gamble some more. So, when some folks think gambling is just fine and should be allowed anywhere, should wonder is some POS like, John Arthur Paquette, is hanging around their house or business.
Kind of a long way to say I will be voting against it.
Well I don't think the problem in that story is the gambling.. I think the problem is John Arthur Paquette. People can take anything to an extreme, that in itself is the persons fault not the activity chosen.
Either way don't much matter, I too will probably be voting against it.. Although I must admit it would be nice to legalize it so that alot of these indian POS casinos go outta biz.
RD

[gnarley]

For all you that are for it, just wait till some tribe wants to buy some land near you and then call it a reservation and then put a casino on it.
How would you like to live next to the casino? You might say it’s ok as long as they don’t build it by me? They might build it by someone you know who doesn’t want it there either!
When we voted to give the tribes rights to build casinos no one ever thought that they would build a casino near a heart of a town or city like they want to do in some cases like in San Pablo or Rohnert Park after they acquired new land and deemed it “reservation”.
Who's paying for the extra load on the city or county infrastructure? Who is impacted by all the extra noise and traffic? Is the trade off worth it to you if it were located in your neighborhood? Do casinos benefit you in any way?
There are lots of people with addictive personalities who can’t say no to gambling, who can’t help themselves. Making it harder for those types of people might just keep some of them from stealing or keeping their family together and off welfare.
You really need to think about ALL of the ramifications before you make up your mind on something like this.

[572Daytona]

I'm all for it, the last time I was in Vegas it was way too crowded and pretty much everyone there was from California :)

[likeFATHERlikeSON3]

anybody know what prop # this is?

[Boozer]

My vote will be yes.
Build the fawker inmy backyard for all I care. You seen whats behind me now in another thread so a casino might actually RAISE the properety value of this house.
People have addictive personalities and will become compulsive gamblers? You don't think we already have those? There are already quite a few indian casinos within a short distance of most so-cal residents so I dont think that this is going to create anymore compulsive gamblers then what we already have.
I would however like it if some of these casinos served free drinks to people on the gaming floor. It is my understanding that all the indian casinos here currently are opened to 18+ and dont serve free drinks. F*ck people under 21 they dont need to gamble I NEED free drinks!! If I'm gonna drop $100+ dollars trying to win big but actually just have fun losing the least they could do is throw me a couple free drinks.

[Dr. Eagle]

For it.
Revenue creation is foremost...only not in my Backyard...Beaumont sounds fine.
Rick32
Guess you hadn't heard about the fashion island casino and gambling hall... eh? :220v:

[Dr. Eagle]

For all you that are for it, just wait till some tribe wants to buy some land near you and then call it a reservation and then put a casino on it.
How would you like to live next to the casino? You might say it’s ok as long as they don’t build it by me? They might build it by someone you know who doesn’t want it there either!
When we voted to give the tribes rights to build casinos no one ever thought that they would build a casino near a heart of a town or city like they want to do in some cases like in San Pablo or Rohnert Park after they acquired new land and deemed it “reservation”.
Who's paying for the extra load on the city or county infrastructure? Who is impacted by all the extra noise and traffic? Is the trade off worth it to you if it were located in your neighborhood? Do casinos benefit you in any way?
There are lots of people with addictive personalities who can’t say no to gambling, who can’t help themselves. Making it harder for those types of people might just keep some of them from stealing or keeping their family together and off welfare.
You really need to think about ALL of the ramifications before you make up your mind on something like this.
Oddly enough this is one that doesn't affect the indians (except for perhaps negatively). This is the hammer to the governators anvil to force the indian tribes to deal on a revenue split.
Regardless, I am absolutely opposed to this. Besides, going to Vegas, Reno or Tahoe is half the fun...

[CA Stu]

It's Prop 68
I'll give you 9 to 5 that it doesn't pass. ;-)
I believe it would just allow slot machines at the track.
I personally could care less, gambling on slots is a sucker bet, whereas handicapping the horses is an art.
Cheers
CA Stu <-- Always hits the "bet max" button

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Revenue creation is great and gambling is certainly agood way to create that revnue and create it fast, not too many casions go out of business. However, with gambling comes a host of other problems increases in traffic and crime as an example. I agree with RD, any activity can be taken to the extreme and that is nore a fault of the person than the activity. I enjoy gambling as well but that does not mean I want a casion down the street from me.

[mike37]

Too much to say. Instead of my book I was writing, I just want to say.
Yes to casinos in Ca. At least the Ca people will benefit from the taxes paid by the casino on thier revenue.
Indian Casinos are a bad deal for California. They are exempt from paying taxes and don't do anything for the economy except pad the Tribal Councils pockets.
Forensic
got that right
and we need to vote down Indian Casinos

[Rev. Williams]

Riodog,
It's unfortunate what happened with your sister-in-law, however lets look at this using your enjoyment of guns you mentioned. Say they build a Big 5 just down the street from me....Yee Hoo!! I can get a Mossberg 12g for under $200 bucks!!! Boy that's cheap and easy. But say I'm an idiot with it and shoot myself because I really don't know what I'm doing?? Now I have medical bills adding up into the $50K mark minimum for all the surgeries, Oh Damn I have no insurance either! Now everyone pays.....
I guess the best idea to prevent all this would be to stop selling guns in the state?? Aaaah No! The key here is education and responsibility.
The Casinos don't make a person an addict, the addict just goes to the casino. A drunk will always find the bottle and a gambler will always find a bet. Why should the non-addictive people not have what they like because other have had trouble with it? Hell take away my truck cause people die every day in them, do I lose my house heater because a family died in their home from theirs?
This is just my $.02 and in no way is ment to belittle what happened to you sister-in-law. This is just 1 more view :D :D

[INXS]

So how does you feel about it?
Personally, I'm for it, I really can't see a good reason why not.
If someone wants to help you pay off your debt them I say let them!