I bought a new gun tonight

[Phat Matt]

I can't wait till I can pick it up and go shooting.
http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/sp2009-large.jpg

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

I can't wait till I can pick it up and go shooting.
http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/sp2009-large.jpg
:eek: :2purples:
you need protection

[Phat Matt]

:eek: :2purples:
you need protection
You never know.

[Kilrtoy]

Alright SYA you better get over to FRENCHIE's ASAP and warn him
PHAT MATT is a coming!
You need a posse to get this one after he takes care of business???????

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

Alright SYA you better get over to FRENCHIE's ASAP and warn him
PHAT MATT is a coming!
You need a posse to get this one after he takes care of business???????
I think so, or is it for Mrs Frenchie :idea:

[Phat Matt]

Alright SYA you better get over to FRENCHIE's ASAP and warn him
PHAT MATT is a coming!
You need a posse to get this one after he takes care of business???????
How do you know I haven't already been there? :2purples: :D

[XtrmWakeborder]

Very nice can't go wrong with sigs..or my favorites hk's

[Kilrtoy]

How do you know I haven't already been there? :2purples: :D
AWWWWWWW SHIT , Get the rope
call the judge and the bailiff, we may have a court hearing tommorrow

[Phat Matt]

Very nice can't go wrong with sigs..or my favorites hk's
This sheriff I was talking to says he loves his .45 sig. He told me to get the .45 cuz the 9mm just goes through people and the 45 knocks 'em down! :jawdrop:

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

AWWWWWWW SHIT , Get the rope
call the judge and the bailiff, we may have a court hearing tommorrow
ok let me call CSI BEAUMONT

[XtrmWakeborder]

This sheriff I was talking to says he loves his .45 sig. He told me to get the .45 cuz the 9mm just goes through people and the 45 knocks 'em down! :jawdrop:
Ohh no doubt, deffinately need the stopping power... 9mm have their place though..

[Phat Matt]

I think we are going to get the little lady one of these.
http://www.swfirearms.vista.com/userimages/163070_large.jpg
We checked out one of these, but she couldn't cock it. (Compact baby desert eagle)
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE_SemiCompact-Polymer.jpg

[Froggystyle]

How do you know I haven't already been there? :2purples: :D
'cause you got 10 days left on the waiting period... hehe. :D

[XtrmWakeborder]

I think we are going to get the little lady one of these.
We checked out one of these, but she couldn't cock it. (Compact baby desert eagle)
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE_SemiCompact-Polymer.jpg
These are soo nice my buddy has the regular .44. I love the baby desert eagles, but i like the .40 which is the biggest isnt it

[Phat Matt]

'cause you got 10 days left on the waiting period... hehe. :D
ain't that a bitch! :yuk: :D

[XtrmWakeborder]

'cause you got 10 days left on the waiting period... hehe. :D
Hey froggy can you carry a concealed weapon since you were in the seals?

[Phat Matt]

These are soo nice my buddy has the regular .44. I love the baby desert eagles, but i like the .40 which is the biggest isnt it
Here's the .44 Magnum with a 10" barrel. :jawdrop:
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/44_mark_vii.jpg
They have a lot of different models though.

[XtrmWakeborder]

Here's the .44 Magnum with a 10" barrel. :jawdrop:
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/44_mark_vii.jpg
They have a lot of different models though.
Hes got the bottom one, such nice guns. i love the weight of them. Kinda scared to shoot it though lol

[Kilrtoy]

Anybody can carry a conceled weapon, it just what happens when you get caught

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

HOW DID WE GO FROM BOATS AND BABES TO GUNS :2purples:

[BADBLOWN572]

I just sold a Sig 228 to my brother. Great gun. I never had one problem with that thing. It was a very nice piece. I just like to change it up occasionally. I think I am going to go out in the next couple of weeks and pick up an HK USP40. You will love the sig!

[Doctor Feniks]

This sheriff I was talking to says he loves his .45 sig. He told me to get the .45 cuz the 9mm just goes through people and the 45 knocks 'em down! :jawdrop:
you planning on shooting some people?

[FRENCHIE]

How do you know I haven't already been there? :2purples: :D
i locked up the doors real good last night!! :eek: dont want to be run on Martini bar style!!! :hammer2: :hammer2: :D

[SHOCKWAVETOM]

Hey froggy can you carry a concealed weapon since you were in the seals?
No....I will answer for him. If he wanted to he has to go thru the permit process just like everybody else.

[FRENCHIE]

still no bold sig!!?? :cry: :(

[SHOCKWAVETOM]

still no bold sig!!?? :cry: :(
Never got it taken care of Frenchie :( It will have to do

[NOTALENT]

Awesome...I just went out to Turners on Sunday..And Picked up this Baby.. It was on sale..so I had to have it. :D
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/916Desert_Eagle.jpg

[SHAKEN Not Stirred]

Nice Matt !!!
I have the 9mm 226.....
LOVE it !!!
No I just need a 45 or 40 to keep it company....
Later,
CJG
:)

[OGShocker]

I don't know why but, I REALLY want this SP89 from H&K. http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/sp89/sp89.gif
They have one on Gunbrokers auction right now. I am waiting to see how the bidding goes.

[racecar.hotshoe]

5 More days and I get to pickup this badboy.
http://images.hasbro.com/common/images/products/52585_imageMain400.jpg

[NOTALENT]

I don't know why but, I REALLY want this SP89 from H&K. http://remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/sp89/sp89.gif
They have one on Gunbrokers auction right now. I am waiting to see how the bidding goes.
are those legal in CA???

[OGShocker]

are those legal in CA???
No but, I own land in AZ and Louisiana. They are legal there! :D ;)

[OGShocker]

5 More days and I get to pickup this badboy.
http://images.hasbro.com/common/images/products/52585_imageMain400.jpg
LMAO...DON'T SHOOT!!!!!

[carbonmarine]

I just ordered one of these for the Sand Bar next year ....
** Its primary use will be for those AZZHOLES that insist on casting a big wake on the inside section and screw'in folks up !!!! - Secondary, is blast'in lakelice while underway as if I were buffalo shoot'in from a train in the old west ... Choooo , chooooo booom !!!!
http://www.barrettrifles.com/military/images/109b.jpg

[Froggystyle]

Hey froggy can you carry a concealed weapon since you were in the seals?
Like Tom said, no. But, the background check and safety course were waived when I applied because of the teams.
You need to have a reason for having one in Cali. I have a reasonable reason, would like to carry and my home county of Sonoma is far more relaxed than San Diego, but decided against it for numerous reasons. In my experience, if you carry around a hammer with you, everything starts looking like a nail for some reason.
I figure if I ever have a really good reason to carry, I just will. If it is a good enough reason, I will take my chances with law enforcement understanding. If it isn't a good reason, I don't need to be carrying it.
I figure I would want one in a couple of instances, all involving wilderness travel. In addition, it wouldn't be concealed in this case as I would actually be keeping it handy, as I suspect I may need it. With legitimate wildlife threats and my background, I don't think I would have a problem.
You would have to be an idiot to jack one of my vehicles with all of the logos, and I don't carry cash anymore to speak of, so two main reasons to get "hit" are gone.
Not to mention, very close to the top of the list of things not to do is pull a handgun on a SEAL in a close quarter situation. Really bad move. Most people who would pull a gun on you don't really intend to use it, they are threatening force. They need to be close enough to do whatever they need to do i.e. mug you or grab your keys or something, and very quickly they will get killed with their own gun. They may not intend to use it, but if you pull it on me, rest assured I will intend to use it. Immediately!
So you see, it is like I have a carry permit. Anyone who would pull a gun on me is going to end up giving it to me. I don't need to even worry about a "throw away". ;)
No, you don't get one from being a SEAL. While on active duty though, as a comm rep and ordinance rep, we carried any time we did anything in the civilian sector, i.e. travel. It is overrated. I don't even like carrying a wallet, let alone two pounds of hogleg and mags.

[Phat Matt]

HOW DID WE GO FROM BOATS AND BABES TO GUNS :2purples:
It's the sandbar. What's wrong with these? :D
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=508738 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=508739 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=508740 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/photo.cms?msid=508741

[SHOCKWAVETOM]

Like Tom said, no. But, the background check and safety course were waived when I applied because of the teams.
You need to have a reason for having one in Cali. I have a reasonable reason, would like to carry and my home county of Sonoma is far more relaxed than San Diego, but decided against it for numerous reasons. In my experience, if you carry around a hammer with you, everything starts looking like a nail for some reason.
I figure if I ever have a really good reason to carry, I just will. If it is a good enough reason, I will take my chances with law enforcement understanding. If it isn't a good reason, I don't need to be carrying it.
I figure I would want one in a couple of instances, all involving wilderness travel. In addition, it wouldn't be concealed in this case as I would actually be keeping it handy, as I suspect I may need it. With legitimate wildlife threats and my background, I don't think I would have a problem.
You would have to be an idiot to jack one of my vehicles with all of the logos, and I don't carry cash anymore to speak of, so two main reasons to get "hit" are gone.
Not to mention, very close to the top of the list of things not to do is pull a handgun on a SEAL in a close quarter situation. Really bad move. Most people who would pull a gun on you don't really intend to use it, they are threatening force. They need to be close enough to do whatever they need to do i.e. mug you or grab your keys or something, and very quickly they will get killed with their own gun. They may not intend to use it, but if you pull it on me, rest assured I will intend to use it. Immediately!
So you see, it is like I have a carry permit. Anyone who would pull a gun on me is going to end up giving it to me. I don't need to even worry about a "throw away". ;)
No, you don't get one from being a SEAL. While on active duty though, as a comm rep and ordinance rep, we carried any time we did anything in the civilian sector, i.e. travel. It is overrated. I don't even like carrying a wallet, let alone two pounds of hogleg and mags.
I agree Wes. I pity the fool that would do something as stupid as pull a gun on my brother at close range. Bad ending guaranteed.
I especially liked this quote:
In my experience, if you carry around a hammer with you, everything starts looking like a nail for some reason.
Ain't that the truth....lol

[mirvin]

Hey Matt. Check out the S&W 99. Get it in the 40 cal and the lady is set. Just like butter. It's got the composit bottom made by Walther and a steel slide by S&W. Fairly compact and very foolproof.
I love mine........
mirvin :cool:

[Her454]

I think we are going to get the little lady one of these.
http://www.swfirearms.vista.com/userimages/163070_large.jpg
We checked out one of these, but she couldn't cock it. (Compact baby desert eagle)
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BE_SemiCompact-Polymer.jpg
Going to be my Christmas present to myself...........unless my new hubby wants to get it for me................hint hint..............;)

[Jordy]

Going to be my Christmas present to myself...........unless my new hubby wants to get it for me................hint hint..............;)
OK, I can take a hint. Handguns it is. :D

[OGShocker]

OK, I can take a hint. Handguns it is. :D
Handcuffs for a wedding present and handguns for Christmas. It MUST be love!!!

[MsDrmr]

I love shootin, I love going and tryin new guns out. My uncle (border control officer) has a collection of guns, asked me to try out this one gun when I was a youngster, my daddy rescued me, that gun would have landed me on my tookus.
We don't have anything special, couple bebe guns, and a 37 that we shoot around once in a while up at lytle creek.

[OGShocker]

I love shootin, I love going and tryin new guns out. My uncle (border control officer) has a collection of guns, asked me to try out this one gun when I was a youngster, my daddy rescued me, that gun would have landed me on my tookus.
How is my "niece" today? :D
I still have a scar from my first shoot. Never put your thumb OVER your hold hand while firing an auto loader...DOH! :sqeyes:

[Her454]

Handcuffs for a wedding present and handguns for Christmas. It MUST be love!!!
At first site.......................:)
that gun would have landed me on my tookus.
Tookus? OMG, Hon I think you need to be one of my bridesmaids....you fit right in! :):)

[MsDrmr]

How is my "niece" today? :D
I still have a scar from my first shoot. Never put your thumb OVER your hold hand while firing an auto loader...DOH! :sqeyes:
doin great, can't wait to get out there and do it again. when are you free? I am older now and can probably shoot that one ya had years ago, I think I'm ready :wink:

[NOTALENT]

The First gun I ever shot was a Ruger Redhawk 44mag. I was seven..Such a damn Kick I literally flew off my feet..and I would have done a back flip but my father was behind me and I flew ino his arms..the gun hit him in the head..haha..good times. :cool:

[Phat Matt]

Hey Matt. Check out the S&W 99. Get it in the 40 cal and the lady is set. Just like butter. It's got the composit bottom made by Walther and a steel slide by S&W. Fairly compact and very foolproof.
I love mine........
mirvin :cool:
Is it this one? http://www.swfirearms.vista.com/userimages/120212_large.jpg
I think she'll still have a problem cocking it. We'll probably go with a revolver. Look like a nice gun though!

[mirvin]

Is it this one? http://www.swfirearms.vista.com/userimages/120212_large.jpg
I think she'll still have a problem cocking it. We'll probably go with a revolver. Look like a nice gun though!
Yeah that's it. That one looks like a more compact version than the one I have. You're right though, might be hard to pull the slide back:rolleyes:
mirvin

[wildbillg]

heres one I just got
http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976307706-1.jpg
Taurus Model 608 Revolver, 357 Remington Magnum, 4" Ported Stainless Heavy Vent Ribbed Barrel, adjustable rear sights,8 rounds, Rubber Grips. This large frame revolver offers an incredible 8 shots of .357 Magnum. Hand fitted actions smooth as silk, and crisp trigger.
Could not resist having a wheel gun with 8 shots! ! ! :devil:
Oh and one of these too.
http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976376331-1.jpg
Its got a 5" barrel that can be changed to a 3 1/2"
with a laser sight also (of corse)....

[77charger]

I just have these two plus numorous rifles i use to shoot 3gun matches still pretty good at it but dont get to shoot as much as i used to.An ar15 and a mossberg 500 were the other guns i used,but have a gun for just about every purpose
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/398the_1911s.JPG

[Hallz]

I LOVE my XD40. Infact more so than my old 229 or P94.
The 3" compact is a nice choice for a woman or concealment!
http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/xd-pistol/XD9301.jpg
If you look around I picked up my 4" for only $350. Best ban for your buch IMO.
Congrats on your new gun.

[Excessive Force]

Nice "gat"!

[XtrmWakeborder]

Like Tom said, no. But, the background check and safety course were waived when I applied because of the teams.
You need to have a reason for having one in Cali. I have a reasonable reason, would like to carry and my home county of Sonoma is far more relaxed than San Diego, but decided against it for numerous reasons. In my experience, if you carry around a hammer with you, everything starts looking like a nail for some reason.
I figure if I ever have a really good reason to carry, I just will. If it is a good enough reason, I will take my chances with law enforcement understanding. If it isn't a good reason, I don't need to be carrying it.
I figure I would want one in a couple of instances, all involving wilderness travel. In addition, it wouldn't be concealed in this case as I would actually be keeping it handy, as I suspect I may need it. With legitimate wildlife threats and my background, I don't think I would have a problem.
You would have to be an idiot to jack one of my vehicles with all of the logos, and I don't carry cash anymore to speak of, so two main reasons to get "hit" are gone.
Not to mention, very close to the top of the list of things not to do is pull a handgun on a SEAL in a close quarter situation. Really bad move. Most people who would pull a gun on you don't really intend to use it, they are threatening force. They need to be close enough to do whatever they need to do i.e. mug you or grab your keys or something, and very quickly they will get killed with their own gun. They may not intend to use it, but if you pull it on me, rest assured I will intend to use it. Immediately!
So you see, it is like I have a carry permit. Anyone who would pull a gun on me is going to end up giving it to me. I don't need to even worry about a "throw away". ;)
No, you don't get one from being a SEAL. While on active duty though, as a comm rep and ordinance rep, we carried any time we did anything in the civilian sector, i.e. travel. It is overrated. I don't even like carrying a wallet, let alone two pounds of hogleg and mags.
Gotcha, yah id deffinately hate to see someone pull a gun on a seal in close quarters, could get messy

[Flyinbowtie]

Congrats, Matt.
Sig Sauer ,IMHO, produces the finest combat handguns in the world.
I've carried a P 226 for over 15 years as a duty weapon, first in 9mm and now in .40 . Never had a malfunction of any kind with either weapon, and I have put many, many rounds through them both.
If you can, hook up with a Sig certified Armorer/Rangmaster, and have him/her teach you about the weapon. It'll be worth the effort.

[Phat Matt]

Congrats, Matt.
Sig Sauer ,IMHO, produces the finest combat handguns in the world.
I've carried a P 226 for over 15 years as a duty weapon, first in 9mm and now in .40 . Never had a malfunction of any kind with either weapon, and I have put many, many rounds through them both.
If you can, hook up with a Sig certified Armorer/Rangmaster, and have him/her teach you about the weapon. It'll be worth the effort.
Thanks for the advice!

[Phat Matt]

I picked it up today. I can't wait to get into the range! It feels pretty nice and want to put some rounds through it! Goldi was even able to cock this one so that's cool.

[Kindsvater Flat]

I have the Sig Pro 2340 and its the best auto I ever had. Never had a problem with it and its accurate as hell!!

[Froggystyle]

Congrats, Matt.
Sig Sauer ,IMHO, produces the finest combat handguns in the world.
I've carried a P 226 for over 15 years as a duty weapon, first in 9mm and now in .40 . Never had a malfunction of any kind with either weapon, and I have put many, many rounds through them both.
If you can, hook up with a Sig certified Armorer/Rangmaster, and have him/her teach you about the weapon. It'll be worth the effort.
That was most peoples secondary weapon in the teams. P226. We would get issued one in the beginning of the workup, and throw it away right after CQB phase and get a new one. About 30% would develop cracked frames at the place where it slides on the receiver.
Of course, you shoot somewhere around 10,000 rounds in a single week during CQB, about half through the Sig. By the time we changed them out, there was well over 15,000 rounds through them.
Great gun. I carried a H&K SOCOM .45 personally, and then bought the USP .45 for myself and had it armored.

[Hallett19]

.40 cal Glock 22C babay !!!
http://www.glock.com/g17.jpg

[Hallett19]

if you carry around a hammer with you, everything starts looking like a nail for some reason.
Classic Wes verbage right here :wink:

[Phat Matt]

Somebody brilliant gave me a grey chicklet for this thread. I am guessing it was negative. Ofcourse they didn't sign it.
10-18-2004 11:34 PM guns kill
Lots of things can kill you dude. They can also save YOUR life. :jawdrop: But, you are entitled to your opinion.

[STV_Keith]

.40 cal Glock 22C babay !!!
http://www.glock.com/g17.jpg
With that "C" model, make sure you test fire it with your carry ammo at night. A lot of stuff out there produces a big muzzle flash, and the compensated guns make it even bigger. This is bad because: 1. It will give away your exact location and 2. it can blind you temporarily.
Shoot a bunch of stuff through it and find what has the least amount of flash.
Personally, I carry the G27 sub-compact .40 and have the G22 as my home defense pistol. Nice that the hi-cap G22 mags also fit the G27...my backup mag for the G27 is the 15 round G22 hi-cap. :)

[MRS. MAINEVENT]

Somebody brilliant gave me a grey chicklet for this thread. I am guessing it was negative. Ofcourse they didn't sign it.
10-18-2004 11:34 PM guns kill
Lots of things can kill you dude. They can also save YOUR life. :jawdrop: But, you are entitled to your opinion.
IMO~It is better to never need it~than need it, and never had it :D

[Phat Matt]

IMO~It is better to never need it~than need it, and never had it :D
That works for me, but some people don't think that way. I would rather have it!

[LHC30Victory]

To add a little to what Froggy said -
Guns = distance weapon
Knives (ahhhhh yessss) = up close and personal :crossx:

[Phat Matt]

To add a little to what Froggy said -
Guns = distance weapon
Knives (ahhhhh yessss) = up close and personal :crossx:
What about slippery boats? I hear they can take down a 6' 4" man! :wink: :D

[XtrmWakeborder]

That was most peoples secondary weapon in the teams. P226. We would get issued one in the beginning of the workup, and throw it away right after CQB phase and get a new one. About 30% would develop cracked frames at the place where it slides on the receiver.
Of course, you shoot somewhere around 10,000 rounds in a single week during CQB, about half through the Sig. By the time we changed them out, there was well over 15,000 rounds through them.
Great gun. I carried a H&K SOCOM .45 personally, and then bought the USP .45 for myself and had it armored.
Is that the same as the HK MK23?

[LHC30Victory]

What about slippery boats? I hear they can take down a 6' 4" man! :wink: :D
OK, OK ...Can't we all just get along :cry:

[Phat Matt]

OK, OK ...Can't we all just get along :cry:
It only took you down for a second. You still made it through the day like a trooper! :D

[Froggystyle]

Is that the same as the HK MK23?
Yeah. "Technically" I carried that (the MK23) but the reality was, with comms gear, H-gear, ruck and everything else I had to carry in addition to a secondary, I bought a USP .45 and carried that instead. Much smaller and more easily carried, same punch and action. Plus, we never used suppressors in the field on secondaries.

[XtrmWakeborder]

Yeah. "Technically" I carried that (the MK23) but the reality was, with comms gear, H-gear, ruck and everything else I had to carry in addition to a secondary, I bought a USP .45 and carried that instead. Much smaller and more easily carried, same punch and action. Plus, we never used suppressors in the field on secondaries.
Very cool i love hearing about military life, this weekend hanging out with some marine eod personel i got to hear some good stories. Was the usp .45 the tactical version? I'm debating on one or the other between them.

[MAINEVENT]

Somebody brilliant gave me a grey chicklet for this thread. I am guessing it was negative. Ofcourse they didn't sign it.
10-18-2004 11:34 PM guns kill
Lots of things can kill you dude. They can also save YOUR life. :jawdrop: But, you are entitled to your opinion.
Thats funny Guns dont kill people....People kill people..
My theory is someone walks through my front door unwanted Shoot First ask questions later :devil:

[IN2-IN2MX]

http://www.swfirearms.vista.com/userimages/163070_large.jpg
Hey, Mike has this one. It's on the nightstand.

[Bense468]

Matt
You will love your gun. I shoot every two weeks or so and have NEVER had an issue with this gun. Personally I like my sigs over my H&K. So what model did you end up going with. From my understanding the Sig Pro 2009 only comes in 9mm. Must be a 220 if you got the 45.
My sig 226 .40 S&W
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/731sigp226_1.jpg
http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/p226-st-large.jpg
Thinking about picking up this brand new 220 out (45acp). Not so sure if I like the looks just yet though.
http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/p220-langdon-large.jpg

[OMEGA_BUBBLE_JET]

anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. ammo is cheap, life is expensive. good words to live by should you ever need to use a gun.
Omega

[Froggystyle]

Very cool i love hearing about military life, this weekend hanging out with some marine eod personel i got to hear some good stories. Was the usp .45 the tactical version? I'm debating on one or the other between them.
The MK23 is a giant gun that needs a holster the size of a ski boot. We used to call it any number of names like "hand cannon" or "Plasma ray gun" or something derogatory and based on the size and shape. It was conceived to answer a stupid requirement by the SEAL teams to have an "offensive" handgun which is a contradiction in terms. It had to keep a tight group up to 50 yards, which is an insane distance for a secondary, and it had to be able to screw on a suppressor and mount a surefire and tac laser onto it. Then, it needed a 12 round mag. It also had to be rated for a +P round, or TZZ ammo, which is a hot Israeli round I used to carry. When fully rigged out with a suppressor, red dot and Surefire on the bottom, the thing was just plain stupid huge.
So, you ended up with this huge gun. After H&K built it, they gave it to us to test and evaluate and we said... OK, the gun shoots great but it is too big, we never use a suppressor, we need the rail kit for the front, but it doesn't need to be so long, the decocking lever sucks big time because after a couple of thousand rounds it chews up your thumb and the trigger break is very crunchy. Other than that, it had a great double action pull for your first shots from the holster, and you could really hold all the slack out beautifully.
They took all of our advice and built a much better gun, the USP or "Ultimate Sidearm Pistol" .45 in response. The safety is also the decocking lever, it is ambidextrous, the gun is much more compact, lighter, and has no provision for the suppressor. It still has the rails in front, and will hold .. cough cough cough... the 12 round mag perfectly. (I've heard...)
I love the USP. So much so I bought one when it came out to shoot instead of the MK 23. I figured if it ever came down to me needing it in the field, the last thing I was going to be concerned about is answering to someone about a civilian weapon on my person.

[Phat Matt]

Matt
You will love your gun. I shoot every two weeks or so and have NEVER had an issue with this gun. Personally I like my sigs over my H&K. So what model did you end up going with. From my understanding the Sig Pro 2009 only comes in 9mm. Must be a 220 if you got the 45.
Yeah, I got the 9mm.
http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/sp2009-large.jpg

[Hallett19]

With that "C" model, make sure you test fire it with your carry ammo at night. A lot of stuff out there produces a big muzzle flash, and the compensated guns make it even bigger. This is bad because: 1. It will give away your exact location and 2. it can blind you temporarily.
Shoot a bunch of stuff through it and find what has the least amount of flash.
Personally, I carry the G27 sub-compact .40 and have the G22 as my home defense pistol. Nice that the hi-cap G22 mags also fit the G27...my backup mag for the G27 is the 15 round G22 hi-cap. :)
Yeah, mine is the 22C. I like it because of the feel, but yeah, I should take that thing out and see what has less flash. What have you had luck with Kieth ? This gun cost a ton of dough but I like the fact its the FBI issue weapon. Is it true we can buy the larger clips out of state and bring them home ? I meant to go to some of the gun stores in AZ, but never had a chance.

[STV_Keith]

I believe the G22 hi-cap mag is the largest capacity .40 cal mag that will fit the G22. If you don't have hi-caps, I would think that you can get them now...just be aware they will be spendy (>$100) if you get the drop free Glock mags.
As far as ammo, I carry Speer Gold Dot 185gr hollowpoints myself.
If any of you guys out there have not taken some kind of weapons training class, I would recommend the Front Sight 4-day defensive handgun class. Awesome thing to go through. Learn to draw from concealment and put rounds on target very quickly, with accuracy...teaches of "problems 2 & 3" - the civil and criminal survival after a shooting...scenarios...night shooting...weapons handling/safety, etc. You can find certificates on Ebay for around $100 or less, for first time students to take these $1200 classes! That's a great deal. The school is in Pahrump NV, just outside of Vegas.
More info at: http://www.frontsight.com
It was a great experience for me. Just thought I'd pass that along.

[XtrmWakeborder]

The MK23 is a giant gun that needs a holster the size of a ski boot. We used to call it any number of names like "hand cannon" or "Plasma ray gun" or something derogatory and based on the size and shape. It was conceived to answer a stupid requirement by the SEAL teams to have an "offensive" handgun which is a contradiction in terms. It had to keep a tight group up to 50 yards, which is an insane distance for a secondary, and it had to be able to screw on a suppressor and mount a surefire and tac laser onto it. Then, it needed a 12 round mag. It also had to be rated for a +P round, or TZZ ammo, which is a hot Israeli round I used to carry. When fully rigged out with a suppressor, red dot and Surefire on the bottom, the thing was just plain stupid huge.
So, you ended up with this huge gun. After H&K built it, they gave it to us to test and evaluate and we said... OK, the gun shoots great but it is too big, we never use a suppressor, we need the rail kit for the front, but it doesn't need to be so long, the decocking lever sucks big time because after a couple of thousand rounds it chews up your thumb and the trigger break is very crunchy. Other than that, it had a great double action pull for your first shots from the holster, and you could really hold all the slack out beautifully.
They took all of our advice and built a much better gun, the USP or "Ultimate Sidearm Pistol" .45 in response. The safety is also the decocking lever, it is ambidextrous, the gun is much more compact, lighter, and has no provision for the suppressor. It still has the rails in front, and will hold .. cough cough cough... the 12 round mag perfectly. (I've heard...)
I love the USP. So much so I bought one when it came out to shoot instead of the MK 23. I figured if it ever came down to me needing it in the field, the last thing I was going to be concerned about is answering to someone about a civilian weapon on my person.
Great info Wes thanks alot for answering my question. I think im leaning more towards the usp tactical now...i love the price difference too

[Phat Matt]

I believe the G22 hi-cap mag is the largest capacity .40 cal mag that will fit the G22. If you don't have hi-caps, I would think that you can get them now...just be aware they will be spendy (>$100) if you get the drop free Glock mags.
As far as ammo, I carry Speer Gold Dot 185gr hollowpoints myself.
If any of you guys out there have not taken some kind of weapons training class, I would recommend the Front Sight 4-day defensive handgun class. Awesome thing to go through. Learn to draw from concealment and put rounds on target very quickly, with accuracy...teaches of "problems 2 & 3" - the civil and criminal survival after a shooting...scenarios...night shooting...weapons handling/safety, etc. You can find certificates on Ebay for around $100 or less, for first time students to take these $1200 classes! That's a great deal. The school is in Pahrump NV, just outside of Vegas.
More info at: http://www.frontsight.com
It was a great experience for me. Just thought I'd pass that along.
I just checked out their site and ebay. What's the catch? Why would they allow somebody to sell the certificates so cheap on ebay when their classes cost so much?