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Lake Ape
04-19-2005, 01:14 PM
1995 Howard '21 Daycruiser with a 454 and Bravo One for $20,000?
I went and looked at it today and it's in perfect, I mean perfect condition!
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2219howard.jpg
I am tired of looking and I'm sure your tired me asking about boats...
Insurance on this is only $375/year!
Thanks,
Lake Ape!

mirvin
04-19-2005, 01:21 PM
That might be a little bit high.....but it is a Howard and they do seem to hold their resale value pretty good.
Good luck.
mirvin :wink:

Havasu_Dreamin
04-19-2005, 01:32 PM
According to NADA (http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=44d72dca-9eea-4280-9392-1381e8c87bcb&DID=38461&Type=MR&GCode=MR&wPg=1107&wSec=4&Letter=H&Com=0771&Year=1995&Model=1600089346) it seems kind of low for average retail. It's a Howard and if it is in perfecct condition, I'd say jump on it!

Speedin' Ian
04-19-2005, 01:32 PM
I would say that is a good price for that style Howard, especially if it is really clean.

Lightning
04-19-2005, 01:36 PM
Like they say, there is an ass for every seat.
Seriously though, that seems pretty good. You may want to have a mechanic give the motor a once over to make sure it's in good shape.

boatnam2
04-19-2005, 01:36 PM
id say it is a pretty good price.

djunkie
04-19-2005, 01:39 PM
Jump on it. Thats a deal!!!!!

Outnumbered
04-19-2005, 01:40 PM
Jump on that. The Howard 21' rides pretty nice. I sold my 1987 21' Lavey with a 460/OMC King Cobra for $14,250. It was very clean and had a restored trailer.
Price seems fair if its super clean. I don't think you will find a better boat for the money.

mirvin
04-19-2005, 01:45 PM
Uhhhh...I was just thinking you could get a few bucks off for the powder blue..... :eek: Sorry..... :wink:
mirvin :shift:

mbrown2
04-19-2005, 01:45 PM
I think it is a good deal based on the shape and the fact that it is a Howard 21 Cruiser....get a compression check done and get r done...

Lake Ape
04-19-2005, 01:56 PM
Cool, thanks guys! Anyone know how this boat rides? What should the top speed be? I am trying to get the owner to take me to the lake for a test drive...

HM
04-19-2005, 01:57 PM
That is a great price.
My brother just sold his 1985 Howard 20 1/2 (v-drive). Was immaculate and had a whippled 454. He got ~$35K.

Lake Ape
04-19-2005, 02:24 PM
According to NADA (http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=44d72dca-9eea-4280-9392-1381e8c87bcb&DID=38461&Type=MR&GCode=MR&wPg=1107&wSec=4&Letter=H&Com=0771&Year=1995&Model=1600089346) it seems kind of low for average retail. It's a Howard and if it is in perfecct condition, I'd say jump on it!
I think you plugged it in wrong, it's got an outdrive on it, not a v-drive.
NADA (http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=7d39c4b0-43ea-49ce-a3fd-6d204bcf8441&DID=38461&Type=MR&GCode=MR&wPg=1107&wSec=4&Letter=H&Com=0771&Year=1995&Model=1600089343)
With that in mind do you still think it's a good deal?

Havasu_Dreamin
04-19-2005, 02:27 PM
I think you plugged it in wrong, it's got an outdrive on it, not a v-drive.
NADA (http://www.nadaguides.com/Values/ValueReport.asp?UserID=7d39c4b0-43ea-49ce-a3fd-6d204bcf8441&DID=38461&Type=MR&GCode=MR&wPg=1107&wSec=4&Letter=H&Com=0771&Year=1995&Model=1600089343)
With that in mind do you still think it's a good deal?
Sorry about that. It is a Howard though and if it is in perfect condition, then I don't think the price is too far out of line when compard to average retail.

djunkie
04-19-2005, 02:29 PM
Is it a carbed 454 or fuel inj.? I bought my 1989 23' Howard for a little less than that about 4 years ago. Boat was in excellent shape as well. I thought it was a lot of money but after talking to Mike up at Howard and lots of others I was told that "I stole it." Mine with a bone stock (original motor from 1989) carbed 454 runs 71 on gps. I think it is a good deal on great quality boat. Definately have the guy take you for a ride.

Outnumbered
04-19-2005, 03:09 PM
It should run a solid 60-65 mph. 71mph sounds real fast for a stock 454 on an old-school v-hull but it may be a faster hull than I thought. The color is not the best but the boat is a good boat for the money. Take $20k with you and offer $17k. If he freaks, give him $19k. I don't think he would walk on $19k unless the boat just came out in the Trader.

spectras only
04-19-2005, 03:18 PM
That boat would run 60 all day long with a big block. :D It's practically the same hull as the 20.10 spectra ,and those ran 60 with a 350/alpha combo.I wouldn't hesitate buying it close to that sum [20K] if it's as perfect as it looks in the pic. ;)

Lake Ape
04-19-2005, 03:42 PM
I can't believe that you guys don't like the color! In person it looks even bluer! I have an old dark grey colored CVX-20 now and it gets really, really hot in AZ sun.

mirvin
04-19-2005, 03:55 PM
Dude, as hideous boat color schemes go....that one has nothing to be ashamed about. At least it's not turqoise and pink :D
mirvin

HM
04-19-2005, 04:02 PM
My Brother had a rainbow color scheme and was often called the "Gay Pride" boat. Don't say that outloud in the bench racing forum.
And the blue definitely beats the teal and pink jobbies!