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Tremor Therapy
04-20-2005, 09:22 AM
Credit scam alert sent to me by a friend.
Subject: New Credit Card Scam
Here is a credit card scam that is hitting our area. You might want to pass along this email. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. Con artists get more creative every day.
My husband was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "MasterCard". The scam works like this:
Person calling says, "this is XXXXX, and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by bank. Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a marketing company based in Arizona?"
When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"
You say "yes". The caller continues... "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1-800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control #" The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"
Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, "he needs to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers. There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are your card number, the next 3 are the 'Security Numbers' that verify you are in possession of the card. These are the numbers you use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. Read me the 3 numbers". After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say ,"That is correct. I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say No, the caller then Thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do", and hangs up. You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charge on our card.
Long story made short, we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA card, and they are reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card direct. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement, you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or harder to actually file a fraud report.
What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.
Please pass this on to all your friends. By informing each other, we protect each other.

RexRathburn
04-20-2005, 09:28 AM
Thanks for posting this TT! Focking credit card scammers. :220v: :skull:

My Man's Sportin' Wood
04-20-2005, 10:14 AM
Thanks for the info.

welk2party
04-20-2005, 10:17 AM
I am going to need the 3 digit number on the back of your credit card to verify this story. :D

superdave013
04-20-2005, 10:36 AM
you have have to be a real boob to fall for that! I'm sure that a lot of people do fall for it though.

C-2
04-20-2005, 10:43 AM
That's an old variation of an even older skiptracing ruse. A good prankster will even get your bank accounts, other cards and maybe even find out what you ate for dinner on Monday.
BUT
Yet another good reason for always taking the number of the bank or customer service department calling you; call them back and then asked to be transfered to another operator. Then the call may be legit.
Never trust ANYBODY calling you....caller ID can be manipulated.
Thanks for the reminder :)

topless
04-20-2005, 11:31 AM
Damn! Just when I thought I found a new way to make money you have to go and blow my cover. :devil:

abraman1326
04-20-2005, 12:35 PM
Thank you for the update. I'll definetly be on the look out, and let everyone I know aware of this scam...
BRA

KACHINA KEN
04-20-2005, 01:52 PM
And I would never have been caught if it weren't for you meddling kids! (said with scooby doo bad guy accent)

Kilrtoy
04-20-2005, 02:11 PM
Credit Card companies do not call you.......
easy enough

Parker Dreamin
04-20-2005, 03:30 PM
Credit Card companies do not call you.......
easy enough
Funny bud.. they do call you if you do have unusual spending in a short period of time AND if you are past due on a payment.... thats what my friends tell me.

RitcheyRch
04-20-2005, 03:32 PM
Good info thanks.

Tequila-John
04-20-2005, 03:33 PM
Funny bud.. they do call you if you do have unusual spending in a short period of time AND if you are past due on a payment.... thats what my friends tell me.
Yeah and rent.

C-2
04-20-2005, 08:08 PM
Credit cards do call - assuming they have your current number. The fact they call is how the scam originated since it's pretty damn close to the actions their security departments take.
If they called more, it would save us all a lot of money since by the time they call - it's too late, chances are you've already been taken to the cleaners.
Banks, on the other hand, can't bill you for calling - so they don't!