P 38

[Jbb]

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/1462.jpg

[OGShocker]

OK, I'll play along..
http://www.aviation-central.com/1940-1945/images/aef3d-cl.jpg

[JustMVG]

I'll Play too and Hi Mark how ya been??
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/85FP17_LOCKHEED_P-38_LIGHTNING_YIPPEE_PRODUCERPETERMANCUS.jpg

[Sleek-Jet]

I'll just let everyone look at my avatar.... :D

[Sleek-Jet]

http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/1153P38.jpg
I couldn't resist. :D

[JustMVG]

Glad you didn't i love that shot!!!!!
We need to get up to RENO one of these years !!!!

[JustMVG]

Another
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/85p382.jpg
JBB is this one of your all time fave aircraft???

[Jbb]

Another
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/85p382.jpg
JBB is this one of your all time fave aircraft???
Indeed ...it is!

[Tom Brown]

OK, I'll play along..
http://www.aviation-central.com/1940-1945/images/aef3d-cl.jpg
What's with the ordinance hanging from the wings? Did they have that type of weapons system back when the P-38 was current?

[Jbb]

I like the A-10 ALSO...I used to help build it.... :smile:
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/107771.jpg

[Jbb]

Thats Better...
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/105973.jpg

[HOSS]

Wort :cool: hog,,,,loved the way those things sounded along the tree line.

[Jbb]

My all time favorite,however ...and the one I wanted to fly...was the F4....
http://www.jolly-rogers.com/images/84-f4-tarmac.jpg

[Sleek-Jet]

Glad you didn't i love that shot!!!!!
We need to get up to RENO one of these years !!!!
I haven't been to Reno since about '99 or so... That's a fun weekend to be sure.

[mxbundy]

Yeah they had rockets back then, although unguided.
You can see some good clips of them unloading those thing on bunkers and trains and such on WINGS.

[RiverToysJas]

Here's an old one....
http://www.op6c.com/images/fun_images/rd_magic1b.jpg
RTJas :D

[Sleek-Jet]

Here's on of my favorite jet fighters.... the last of the gunslingers, no guided missles or radar, just you, a brace of cannons and the target... :D
http://www.vmf235.com/crusader66.jpg

[UnionJack]

I love the F4

[cjordan]

The F4 is cool, but not much compares to the F-104....."The missle with a man in it." :cool: OK maybe the SR-71. :rollside:
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941f104-flying.jpg

[cjordan]

Another at take-off with burner lit! ;)
http://www.starfighters.net/gallery/2001gallery/nashbto.jpg

[OGShocker]

What's with the ordinance hanging from the wings? Did they have that type of weapons system back when the P-38 was current?
I will google that question and get back to you later. The short answer is, yes!

[JB in so cal]

The F4 is cool, but not much compares to the F-104....."The missle with a man in it." :cool: OK maybe the SR-71. :rollside:
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941f104-flying.jpg
My dad knew one of the test pilots; Darryl Greenemeyer? He told pops a story one time where he got into some trouble in an f104 early on in the program. He was low and losing power; he went to eject and at the last minute, recalled that the ejection system blows you out the bottom (high T-Tail); so he rolled over and ejected at about 100 ft.
If he hadn't have done that, he'd be about 5 feet underground :jawdrop:

[cjordan]

last one..... :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941star4.jpg

[OGShocker]

They were 5" rockets Tom. Here is a little story..
One of the most outstanding escort missions during 1944 occurred on April 2nd. The assignment was to provide escort and close cover for B-24s of the 30th Bombardment Wing, in an attack against the ball bearing plants and aircraft factory at Steyr, Austria. The P-38s took off from Triolo airdrome at 0835 hours. Rendezvous with the bombers was scheduled to be made over the target area, which was five hundred miles away from the base; but the bombers were late, and the P-38s turned south and picked up the bombers twenty miles northeast of Trieste at 1045. When the bombers neared Steyr at 1205 hours, forty twin engine enemy fighters headed for the bombers. Flying four in a line abreast, the enemy planes began coming in and prepared to launch their rockets. Instantaneously, the 48th Fighter Squadron engaged the onrushing planes, broke up the enemy formations, and forced the planes to fire the rockets at random. Then the 48th engaged the planes in conflict, and in a relentless attack, cut the flights to pieces. Twelve enemy planes were destroyed and two probably destroyed.

[HavasuDoll]

Here all this time I thought a p38 was a small device supplied in c-rations used to open cans :p Nice pictures Guys.

[Jbb]

Here's an old one....
http://www.op6c.com/images/fun_images/rd_magic1b.jpg
RTJas :D
Inverted all that time...at those speeds......and still manages to keep his hat on...and not spill a drop of beer.....That RD ....He is the man!!! :cool:

[disco_charger]

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/1462.jpg
One of the 7 (yes seven) planes from WWII that shot my Grandfather down over Europe. It has the distinction of being the only one from his side that got him! :eek: Before you all start talking trash about his skills, he was a J 5 pilot. Tough to dogfight with no guns, and a plane that went 60mph. :2purples:

[Sleek-Jet]

One of the 7 (yes seven) planes from WWII that shot my Grandfather down over Europe. It has the distinction of being the only one from his side that got him! :eek: Before you all start talking trash about his skills, he was a J 5 pilot. Tough to dogfight with no guns, and a plane that went 60mph. :2purples:
A J-5, that ought to get some people scratching their head.... :D

[Tom Brown]

They were 5" rockets Tom. Here is a little story..
One of the most outstanding escort missions during 1944 occurred on April 2nd. The assignment was to provide escort and close cover for B-24s of the 30th Bombardment Wing, in an attack against the ball bearing plants and aircraft factory at Steyr, Austria. The P-38s took off from Triolo airdrome at 0835 hours. Rendezvous with the bombers was scheduled to be made over the target area, which was five hundred miles away from the base; but the bombers were late, and the P-38s turned south and picked up the bombers twenty miles northeast of Trieste at 1045. When the bombers neared Steyr at 1205 hours, forty twin engine enemy fighters headed for the bombers. Flying four in a line abreast, the enemy planes began coming in and prepared to launch their rockets. Instantaneously, the 48th Fighter Squadron engaged the onrushing planes, broke up the enemy formations, and forced the planes to fire the rockets at random. Then the 48th engaged the planes in conflict, and in a relentless attack, cut the flights to pieces. Twelve enemy planes were destroyed and two probably destroyed.
Thank you, OG. :cool:
I love war history... air/land/sea... I like it all. I used to watch GI Diaries every day. It was cornball but I can't get enough of that stuff. Discovery Civilizations has had some really good programs on lately... The Sinking of the Bizmark... etc., etc.

[LakeRacer]

Here all this time I thought a p38 was a small device supplied in c-rations used to open cans :p Nice pictures Guys.
It's also called a John Wayne.

[JB in so cal]

high wing, single (small) engine: recon, fac.????

[Tom Brown]

I had an uncle who flew a Lancaster during WWII. He was in England for a while but ended up working the flight school for most of the war. I guess they were really short on qualified pilots. He shared endless hours of stories with me. I could listen to them for hours and still could.
My grandfather was one of the few tank gunners who survived WWI. Apparently, there were only a hand full who didn't get picked off. He was pretty messed up after the war, though.
http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/photos/p_lancbomber1.jpg

[JustMVG]

The F4 is cool, but not much compares to the F-104....."The missle with a man in it." :cool: OK maybe the SR-71. :rollside:
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941f104-flying.jpg
Is that RARE BEAR in your avatar???
Had a friend that wrenched on that thing when she was based at VNY as well as the P51 "Super K"

[JustMVG]

Inverted all that time...at those speeds......and still manages to keep his hat on...and not spill a drop of beer.....That RD ....He is the man!!! :cool:
Not to mention the awesome velcro to keep the seat cushions from flying out, heck mine float if i tow faster than 75!!! Sorry i admit it, i am a serial speeder when i tow, something about wanting to get the hell there and get it wet. Oh wait thats another story for another thread..... :D

[JustMVG]

We had a family friend "Fish" Salmon,yes that was his real name , who was a test pilot for Lockheed and he'd come over have a few with my dad and tell some of the best stories about testing and the stuff they pulled, i could stay up for hours and listen to him go on and on about that stuff. I have a photo somewhere around here, have to scan it and post , he's in his flight suit next to a 104.
MikeVG

[cjordan]

Is that RARE BEAR in your avatar???
Had a friend that wrenched on that thing when she was based at VNY as well as the P51 "Super K"
Yep!

[cjordan]

Here is what I spend most of my time in while flying for fun......1942 Boeing Stearman with P&W R985. It's one of my dads planes, took 5yrs on ground up restoration. About 200 of my 400hrs in this baby and its a blast to fly.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941Stearman.jpg

[Sleek-Jet]

Not to mention they sound like an airplane should.... :D
Very cool.

[cjordan]

Not to mention they sound like an airplane should.... :D
Very cool.
Like the old saying goes, "Real airplanes have tailwheels and round engines!" :p

[ColeTR2]

This is my favorite, It does mach 3 carrying a nuke!
XB-70 hi res (http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/738xb70.jpg)
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/738xb70-med.jpg
Anyone know the nick name?

[MagicMtnDan]

Loved the XB-70
http://www.xb-70.com/wmaa/xb70/titlepic.jpg
Sad story...
On 8 June, 1966, one of aviation's most tragic accidents occured in the skies over the Mojave Desert. After an early morning flight test sortie in XB-70 Air Vehicle #2 (AV/2), pilots Al White and Major Carl Cross rendezvoused with a flight of four fighter-type aircraft and a Lear Jet. The idea was to group the fighters in formation around the XB-70 while photographers aboard the Lear Jet documented the event. All five aircraft were powered by General Electric engines, and the photos were to be used in GE advertising.
After over forty minutes of formation photo work, disaster struck. One of the fighters, a Lockheed/NASA F-104 flown by NASA chief test pilot Joe Walker, moved too close to the XB-70 ultimately resulting in a collision. The F-104 (NASA serial number 013) was caught in the XB-70's wing tip vortices, and then flipped over onto the top of the massive bomber. Joe Walker was killed instantly as the XB-70's twin vertical tails were torn away.
The F-104 exploded and fell to Earth in at least three pieces. The crew of the XB-70, initially unaware of the collision, continued in straight and level flight for 16 seconds, eventually to enter a unrecoverable flat spin. Al White ejected in the final few seconds, but tragically, Major Cross lost his life when the XB-70 impacted the ground. The pieces of Walker's F-104 came to rest nearly six kilometers to the north. In a matter of seconds, two brave men and two valuable aircraft had been lost.
More here: http://www.xb-70.com/wmaa/xb70
http://www.xb-70.com/wmaa/xb70/f104form.jpg

[MagicMtnDan]

Ever hear of the B-58 "Hustler?"
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvburen/b-58/gfx/gallery/dd/01.jpg
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvburen/b-58/gfx/gallery/dd/06.jpg

[Chase]

I will google that question and get back to you later. The short answer is, yes!
OG...you probably have some of that in your garage... :eek: :eek:

[Sleek-Jet]

I worked with a tech that was involved in the B58 program from birth to retiremant. He said that was a wild airplane.

[JustMVG]

Yeah and everything had to be working right for the darn thing to fly, if there was an engine failure during takeoff roll or intial climout the other three engines would have been overtaxed and were pront to failures. But an awesome plane, hauled ass looks sexy as hell too.

[Chase]

Ever hear of the B-58 "Hustler?"
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvburen/b-58/gfx/gallery/dd/01.jpg
http://www.xs4all.nl/~mvburen/b-58/gfx/gallery/dd/06.jpg
NO, can you lend any further information..
What were they used for, and when??

[JustMVG]

This is my favorite, It does mach 3 carrying a nuke!
XB-70 hi res (http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/738xb70.jpg)
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/738xb70-med.jpg
Anyone know the nick name?
Uhh the Vakyrie, or the white elephant, too bad the program was dropped that would have been a great airshow flyby.

[cjordan]

Lets not forget this bad boy....this it late 50's early 60's technology!!
A few records:
LA to Washington DC: 1hr 4min!
NY to London: 1hr 54min!
St Louis to Cincinnati 8min 32 seconds!
Travels ~36 miles a minute.......
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941SR71flt.jpg

[moneypit]

It this Hotplane.com or what :sleeping: :sleeping:

[JustMVG]

One gosh darn Airplane thread and you have to jump in with a silly comment like that!!! Nevermind a 50 page thread about pleasuring a 4 legged friend, and every other related thread...... sorry didn't really mean all that

[NastyOne]

To the bat plane!
http://artur54.no.sapo.pt/images/sr71.jpg

[cjordan]

It this Hotplane.com or what :sleeping: :sleeping:
One gosh darn Airplane thread and you have to jump in with a silly comment like that!!! Nevermind a 50 page thread about pleasuring a 4 legged friend, and every other related thread...... sorry didn't really mean all that
Today 08:58 PM
Not to mention a nice change from all the threads about peoples new cars, stereo systems, and souped up golf carts...... :hammerhea :2purples: :wink:

[JustMVG]

To the bat plane!
http://artur54.no.sapo.pt/images/sr71.jpg
Gotta love the fuel coming out of the top of the fuselage, incredible aircraft.

[JustMVG]

One gosh darn Airplane thread and you have to jump in with a silly comment like that!!! Nevermind a 50 page thread about pleasuring a 4 legged friend, and every other related thread...... sorry didn't really mean all that
Today 08:58 PM
Not to mention a nice change from all the threads about peoples new cars, stereo systems, and souped up golf carts...... :hammerhea :2purples: :wink:
Amen, wait i think i'll start a thread all about my daughters hamsters and what names should they be given, and ask if they should be kept away from someone whose name rhymes with Wrenchie......

[cjordan]

Amen, wait i think i'll start a thread all about my daughters hamsters and what names should they be given, and ask if they should be kept away from someone whose name rhymes with Wrenchie......
you gave me another idea, maybe I can see what gang signs my 12 yr old sees being thrown around in prep school...I'll post up the pics then we'll see how long it takes for a bunch of middle aged guys and gals to to put up a bunch of pictures showing they have the beginning stages of carpal tunnel syndrome:rolleyes:

[JustMVG]

you gave me another idea, maybe I can see what gang signs my 12 yr old sees being thrown around in prep school...I'll post up the pics then we'll see how long it takes for a bunch of middle aged guys and gals to to put up a bunch of pictures showing they have the beginning stages of carpal tunnel syndrome:rolleyes:
I think those pics will most likely come first from the HB Forum Post Wh**es
with quotes like "wanna see my surgery scars" or guess what i can't do anymore...... I posted so much when i was on hot boat i cant even hold a beer any more, but hey wanna see pics of my new nurse!!!, you know stuff like that.

[Jbb]

It this Hotplane.com or what :sleeping: :sleeping:
If I want it to be ....it is.....

[JustMVG]

If I want it to be ....it is.....
Now THATS what i'm talkin' 'bout!!!

[MudPumper]

This P-38 went down off of San Diego in 1943, there is also an F-4 Phantom not too far away from this plane.
http://www.cawreckdivers.org/Wrecks/p38diver-canopy.jpg

[RADDONKEY]

COOL PICS, Its nice to see. My Grandfather was a test pilot on the P-38. :wink: RD

[MikeF]

My best friends dad was a electrician on the SR.
Says in the early days they had two Buick 455's running at full song to spin up the turbines before lighting off! When the Buicks were retired they were replaced by SBC's.
Full load of fuel to get off the ground. Plane would make one turn......then it was gone! Would refuel then start it's flight path.
After decommissioning, he worked on the U2's and w/NASA experimental flights using the U2's.
Been to groom lake too.
The plane in that picture is one of his bird's. :cool:

[Norseman]

Here is what I spend most of my time in while flying for fun......1942 Boeing Stearman with P&W R985. It's one of my dads planes, took 5yrs on ground up restoration. About 200 of my 400hrs in this baby and its a blast to fly.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941Stearman.jpg
Nice!!
I've always liked old Biplanes.
You did a great job on the restoration!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Norseman]

Gotta love the fuel coming out of the top of the fuselage, incredible aircraft.
You should see it leak on the ground!!!! :frown: :frown:

[ColeTR2]

If you like airplanes this place is a must see!! Cool website link:
National Museum of the United States Air Force (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/index.htm)
The only XB-70 is there and a CONVAIR B-58A "HUSTLER"

[spectratoad]

Glad you didn't i love that shot!!!!!
We need to get up to RENO one of these years !!!!
I live about 3 of 4 miles from the race. We go hang out at the Guard hangar if I go which is on the back straightaway. :D

[Sleek-Jet]

For all you SR-71 nuts... check this out... http://www.habu.org/
They have pictures and history of most every serial #, including the A-12's... :D

[rrrr]

Here is what I spend most of my time in while flying for fun......1942 Boeing Stearman with P&W R985. It's one of my dads planes, took 5yrs on ground up restoration. About 200 of my 400hrs in this baby and its a blast to fly.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/9941Stearman.jpg
Beautiful!!!! Nothing like doing 85 kts in a Stearman at 1000 feet over the greenery of summer. :cool: :cool:

[cjordan]

Beautiful!!!! Nothing like doing 85 kts in a Stearman at 1000 feet over the greenery of summer. :cool: :cool:
True....but this baby does closer to 115 kts with the bigger power. You can throttle back to about 100 kts to get fuel consumption down to about 17 gal/hr from 22 gal/hr. Its tough to get consumption much below 17 gal/hr even @85-90 kts... :notam: Just too much drag!! I took it up to 11,000' one time and was getting 140 kts and burning 17 gal/hr leaned down. Only problem was it got cold with shorts and a T-shirt!!
Thanks for the compliment. :cool: