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CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 09:39 AM
This was sent around at work, serious stuff and something for everyone to know. Pass it on...
Jeff Message,
First I'm going to tell you a little about me and my family. My name is Jeff. I am a Police Officer for a city which is known nationwide for its crime rate. We have a lot of gangs and drugs. At one point we were number two in the nation in homicides per capita. I also have a police K-9 named Thor. He was certified in drugs and general duty. He retired at three years old because he was shot in the line of duty. He lives with us now and I still train with him because he likes it. I always liked the fact that there was no way to bring drugs into my house. Thor wouldn't allow it. He would tell on you. The reason I say this is so you understand that I know about drugs. I have taught in schools about drugs. My wife asks all our kids at least once a week if they used any drugs. Makes them promise they won't.
I like building computers occasionally and started building a new one in February 2005. I also was working on some of my older computers. They were full of dust so on one of my trips to the computer store I bought a 3 pack of DUST OFF. Dust Off is a can of compressed air to blow dust off a computer. A few weeks later when I went to use them they were all used. I talked to my kids and my two sons both said they had used them on their computer and were messing around with them. I yelled at them for wasting the 10 dollars I paid for them. On Feb. 28 I went back to the computer store. They didn't have the three-pack I had bought on sale so I bought a single jumbo can of Dust Off. I went home and set it down beside my computer.
On March 1 I left for work at 10 p.m. At 11 p.m. my wife went down and kissed Kyle goodnight. At 5:30 a.m. the next morning Kathy went downstairs to wake Kyle up for school before she left for work. He was sitting up in bed with his legs crossed and his head leaning over. She called to him a few times to get up. He didn't move. He would sometimes tease her like this and pretend he fell back asleep. He was never easy to get up. She went in and shook his arm. He fell over. He was pale white and had the straw from the Dust Off can coming out of his mouth. He had the new can of Dust Off in his hands. Kyle was dead.
I am a police officer and I had never heard of this. My wife is a nurse and she had never heard of this. We later found out from the coroner, after the autopsy, that only the propellant from the can of Dust off was in his system. No other drugs. Kyle had died between midnight and 1 a.m.
I found out that using Dust Off is being done mostly by kids ages 9 through 15. They even have a name for it - it's called dusting, a take off from the Dust Off name. It gives them a slight high for about 10 seconds. It makes them dizzy. A boy who lives down the street from us showed Kyle how to do this about a month before. Kyle showed his best friend, told him it was cool and it couldn't hurt you. It's just compressed air. It can't hurt you. His best friend said 'no.'
Kyle was wrong. It's not just compressed air. It also contains a propellant. I think its R2. It's a refrigerant like what is used in your refrigerator. It is a heavy gas. Heavier than air. When you inhale it, it fills your lungs and keeps the good air, with oxygen, out. That's why you feel dizzy, buzzed. It decreases the oxygen to your brain, to your heart. Kyle was right. It can't hurt you. IT KILLS YOU. The horrible part about this is there is no warning. There is no level that kills you. It's not cumulative or an overdose; it can just go randomly, terribly wrong. Roll the dice and if your number comes up you die. IT'S NOT AN OVERDOSE. It's Russian roulette. You don't die later. Or not feel good and say I've had too much. You usually die as you're breathing it in. If not you die within 2 seconds of finishing "the hit." That's why the straw was still in Kyle's mouth when he died. Why his eyes were still open.
The experts want to call this huffing. The kids don't believe its huffing. As adults we tend to lump many things together. But it doesn't fit here. And that's why it's more accepted. There is no chemical reaction. No strong odor. It doesn't follow the huffing signals. Kyle complained a few days before he died of his tongue hurting. It probably did. The propellant causes frostbite. If I had only known.
It's easy to say 'hey, it's my life and I'll do what I want.' But it isn't. Others are always affected. This has forever changed our family's life. I have a hole in my heart and soul that can never be fixed. The pain is so immense I can't describe it. There's nowhere to run from it. I cry all the time and I don't ever cry. I do what I'm supposed to do but I don't really care. My kids are messed up. One won't talk about it. The other will only sleep in our room at night. And my wife, I can't even describe how bad she is taking this. I thought we were safe because of Thor. I thought we were safe because we knew about drugs and talked to our kids about them.
After Kyle died another story came out. A Probation Officer went to the school system next to ours to speak with a student. While there he found a student using Dust Off in the bathroom. This student told him about another student who also had some in his locker. This is a rather affluent school system. They will tell you they don't have a drug problem there. They don't even have a DARE or PLUS program there. So rather than tell everyone about this "new" way of getting high they found, they hid it. The probation officer told the media after Kyle's death and they, the school, then admitted to it. I know that if they would have told the media and I had heard, it wouldn't have been in my house.
We need to get this out of our homes and school computer labs!!!
Using Dust Off isn't new and some "professionals" do know about. It just isn't talked about much, except by the kids. They know about it.
April 2 was one month since Kyle died. April 5 would have been his fifteenth birthday. And every weekday I catch myself sitting on the living room couch at 2:30 in the afternoon and waiting to see him get off the bus. I know Kyle is in heaven but I can't help but wonder if I died and went to Hell.
Jeff
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California Gang Investigator's Association http://www.CGIAonline.org
OHMG

Her454
06-29-2005, 09:43 AM
OMG, as I sit here and look at a can of this at my desk....this is scary.

piper
06-29-2005, 09:44 AM
this was on another thread this weekend. Still scary stuff though. I just don't understand why kids do this to themselves.

spectratoad
06-29-2005, 09:45 AM
:frown: :frown: Wow, I wish these kids would think about their actions. Man the things you as an adult would never think of.

Phat Matt
06-29-2005, 09:47 AM
Looks like this one is actually true. :frown:
http://www.snopes.com/toxins/dustoff.asp

Sleek-Jet
06-29-2005, 09:50 AM
I did the same thing Matt... figuring this was just another internet BS story...
Pretty Tragic. :frown:

WaTchTheGelCoat
06-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Sad story, but that has been going on for a while. There is warning labels on the cans.

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Looks like this one is actually true. :frown:
http://www.snopes.com/toxins/dustoff.asp
Heck yah its true, I checked it out before I even posted. I know alot of emails and stuff can be urban legends or hoaxs. but this is serious SHIAT!

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 09:51 AM
Sad story, but that has been going on for a while. There is warning labels on the cans.
But do you realy think anyone sits and reads them, especially kids.

WaTchTheGelCoat
06-29-2005, 09:53 AM
But do you realy think anyone sits and reads them, especially kids.
No, but shouldnt you as a parent?

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 09:56 AM
True very true.
I have decided that any and all products for anything will be put away high or behind locks. You never know. Even a small child could think its funny to play with it.

Her454
06-29-2005, 09:58 AM
No, but shouldnt you as a parent?
From a parents point of view, I have this in my house and wouldnt think twice to check it for this reason. Like stated in the article, drugs are perceived as narcotics not something used in the daily household such as this. I would not have known........ :hammerhea
True very true.
I have decided that any and all products for anything will be put away high or behind locks. You never know. Even a small child could think its funny to play with it.
.......however, I wouldn't let small children play with it.....

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 10:08 AM
I would not either, but if it is kept to where someone even of small age can get to it, it can happen.
The kids today are finding anything to get a high from. Even heard something about gasoline and aresol cans cantaining anything. It is scary to purchase any products.

WaTchTheGelCoat
06-29-2005, 10:08 AM
True very true.
I have decided that any and all products for anything will be put away high or behind locks. You never know. Even a small child could think its funny to play with it.
Sometimes you have to hope that your kids are smart enough to know what right and wrong, and hope that you did a good enough job raising them. It's so sad to see a story like this, but times are changing. Kids nowadays are growing up way to fast. I went back home to Chicago last spring for a wedding ( more like a high school reunion) and was talking with some old friends, come to find out that the school had such a epidemic with teens having kids, that they had to put a nursery in the school so kids could finish school.
MTV and other channels make it ok for kids to do stupid shit, Viva la BAM, Jackass, ECT...ECT...ECT, ( dont get me wrong I watch and laugh at it, but I know right from wrong) kids watch this and think its ok to jump off of buildings, torment their parents and ruin things. Also at the same time, telling kids its ok to be gay. I'm sorry, but in my opinion, its not ok to be gay, and I dont think its MTV's place or anyone else to say so.
Sorry for the rant. lol

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 10:12 AM
Hey it is alright to rant when it comes to this kind of thing.
Your right but sometimes even someone who thought their kids knew end up doing something wrong.(for attention)

Her454
06-29-2005, 10:13 AM
MTV and other channels make it ok for kids to do stupid shit, Viva la BAM, Jackass, ECT...ECT...ECT, ( dont get me wrong I watch and laugh at it, but I know right from wrong)
And I've always wondered if any kids were killed by trying to imitate that show............

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 10:18 AM
And I've always wondered if any kids were killed by trying to imitate that show............
Shiat what about that show or movie can't remember, JACKA$$

Jbb
06-29-2005, 10:26 AM
The high they get must be from the displacement of Oxygen to the brain because canned air or dust off's propellants chemical makeup is exactly the same as R 134 refrigerant....I bought a pallet of it a while back from an auction...after a friend told me they were the same...took a can to a parts store...sure enough chemical identifier is an exact match.....my cars cool great also.....sad story about the kid...

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Amazing I did not know that.
Is that the refrigerant that is illegal to buy?

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 11:01 AM
Makes you think, huh.
WTF! how is it that the kids know but we do not?

Jbb
06-29-2005, 11:04 AM
Amazing I did not know that.
Is that the refrigerant that is illegal to buy?
No R12 is the one you need recovery certification for and has been out of production for some years
R134 is the replacement for it is less ozone depleting....If you believe that whole story...lol....and is the stuff available to anyone at Wal Mart and parts stores

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 11:05 AM
....If you believe that whole story...lol....and is the stuff available to anyone at Wal Mart and parts stores
What?
What story?

Jinga
06-29-2005, 11:18 AM
Sometimes you have to hope that your kids are smart enough to know what right and wrong, and hope that you did a good enough job raising them. It's so sad to see a story like this, but times are changing. Kids nowadays are growing up way to fast. I went back home to Chicago last spring for a wedding ( more like a high school reunion) and was talking with some old friends, come to find out that the school had such a epidemic with teens having kids, that they had to put a nursery in the school so kids could finish school.
MTV and other channels make it ok for kids to do stupid shit, Viva la BAM, Jackass, ECT...ECT...ECT, ( dont get me wrong I watch and laugh at it, but I know right from wrong) kids watch this and think its ok to jump off of buildings, torment their parents and ruin things. Also at the same time, telling kids its ok to be gay. I'm sorry, but in my opinion, its not ok to be gay, and I dont think its MTV's place or anyone else to say so.
Sorry for the rant. lol
Sorry dude but it's not really your place to say that being gay is wrong.
That being my opinion.
Too many people being judged as it is.

Rexone
06-29-2005, 11:30 AM
Very sad story. Another substance that can "kill" you if you breathe enough of it is nitrous. And it's commonly available as many of you know. The buzz you get while feeling cool is oxygen deprivation. It's what you feel before you pass out and maybe wake up, maybe not. Don't breathe it and tell your kids about it and that it can kill you too.
I have a scar on my hand where a wall hook went through it as I hit the wall gasping for air. Long time ago. I was probably a step or two away from deadness. It's all fun before someone gets hurt. Never touched the stuff again. Tell your kids so they don't have to test the experience for themselves based on what they "heard".

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 11:31 AM
Very nicely said
Again the things these kids today find for a high.

WaTchTheGelCoat
06-29-2005, 11:33 AM
Sorry dude but it's not really your place to say that being gay is wrong.
That being my opinion.
Too many people being judged as it is.
See sig line. :D

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 11:34 AM
Opinions are like a**holes, everybodys got one.
Is it big enough for all to see, now.
Opinions are opinions we all have them

WaTchTheGelCoat
06-29-2005, 11:36 AM
Opinions are like a**holes, everybodys got one.
Is it big enough for all to see, now.
Opinions are opinions we all have them
You're entitled, so is he, and so am I.

CandyA$$
06-29-2005, 11:38 AM
Correct