!!!!!!!! Piss'd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PalapaHead]

I gota vent here....for the money spent in a friggen week on that POS war we're never gona get out of, the Katrina recovery cost would be covered, no problem. This kinda sh*t (and thats exactly what it is...SHIT), pisses me off. :mad: :mad: :mad: Having local and state governments pleading for help and Washington barely lifting a finger financially to help is a big giant shit sandwee. News is saying its gona take years for a full recovery. YEARS? WTF for? $$$$$$!!!!! Am I the only one who feels this way? Please tell me not. :boxingguy

[NOTALENT]

I am with you...not only katrina would be covered...but there are other things that could have been taken care of as well...We need to stop trying to help other countries..and take care the U.S first...

[OGShocker]

I gota vent here....for the money spent in a friggen week on that POS war we're never gona get out of, the Katrina recovery cost would be covered, no problem. This kinda sh*t (and thats exactly what it is...SHIT), pisses me off. :mad: :mad: :mad: Having local and state governments pleading for help and Washington barely lifting a finger financially to help is a big giant shit sandwee. News is saying its gona take years for a full recovery. YEARS? WTF for? $$$$$$!!!!! Am I the only one who feels this way? Please tell me not. :boxingguy
Wow Tomestone. You are an idiot. :hammerhea

[imbndvs]

How about the fact that the United States sends trillions to help other countries when the have disasters, but where are those contries when we need help?!!!
So, we as tax payers, pay to help other countries and we pay to help our selves, which I don't have a problem with.
If other countries don't help us, we don't help them, PERIOD!!!
Just my 2 cents.

[cdog]

Billions in relived debt for africa and another 10 million to get them to stop spreading aids. Where's F'in Bono? How about a concert for the south?

[Tremor Therapy]

You are correct. If we just up and left, we could take care of our own....but since when has that been the object of our governments expenditures? Think about all of the US government expenditures abroad, and now think about all of the infrastructure that could have been built here in the good old U. S. of A. with that same amount of money....staggering isn't it.

[topless]

Wow Tomestone. You are an idiot. :hammerhea
LMAO>>>>>>>>>>> :rollside: :rollside:

[HM]

Wow Tomestone. You are an idiot. :hammerhea
LOL....I was going tell him to stop worrying about the petty shit and work on another tough-guy alias screen name to insult the women on HB.

[mirvin]

Uhhhhhh.....wtf does one have to do with the other? Oh yeah....nuthin...
mirvin :notam:

[OGShocker]

If we just up and left, we could take care of our own....
I'll pack your bags and buy your plane ticket. But you will walk to the plane without government assistance.

[moneypit]

I dont think the war has anything to do with a hurricane. DO you? I think a bigggg frickkin wave has more to do with it.
I always kringe when someone spouts off about the war and how it relates this and that.. If it bothers people so much, they otta get do something about it themselves.
Bush is my president. I stand behind him. Do you?
My 02.

[OGShocker]

LOL....I was going tell him to stop worrying about the petty shit and work on another tough-guy alias screen name to insult the women on HB.
He lost me at the Title. He actually abbreviated the "E" out of pissEd.? WHA's that all about?

[PalapaHead]

I don't want to hear pro or con about war from anybody that never picked up a gun for this country. JMO.
7yrs Navy - Gulf War Vet - FYI. YOU? .... Thought so.

[mirvin]

I don't want to hear pro or con about war from anybody that never picked up a gun for this country. JMO.
I pick up a gun every day.....for my country.......in my own way......
mirvin ;)

[Havasu_Dreamin]

7yrs Navy - Gulf War Vet - FYI. YOU? .... Thought so.
If I remember corrctly, SWB was in Vietnam, I think he posted that once, so uh, your thought so is kinda lame right now. Thanks. :D

[OGShocker]

I'll see your squid and raise you a Marine! :D
Thank you guys, for your service!

[PalapaHead]

Uncle Sam's Misguided Children 9 years 2nd Force Recon Co., 22nd MEU(SOC), 1st Force Recon Co. - Beirut - Advanced Party Recon July 1990 Desert Storm.
Oh, and Vietnam. :D
Nice work Shockwave.
EOD Mobile Unit 3 is about all I can place on da table.
Thanks for sharin'...

[PalapaHead]

And, BTW, I said "carried a gun", not a mop. :D :D
j/k j/k don't hit me with your mop. :D
Hmmmm. Whats a mop? How about if I drop a bomb in your lap? :D

[abraman1326]

I want to thank you guys for your service. Now, you can't say the war has anything to do w/ the weather. We do need to spend more cash on taking care of our own, but we alson need to make sure some Terrorist bastard can't get his hand on weponds (sp) that can destroy all we've worked for in the past 229 years. I'm sorry. I'm kind of torn on this toppic in that we do need to get rid of all the mistakes of the world(ie. Hitler, Stalin, Hussene(sp)), but we do need to take care of the problems we have right here at home. Sorry, guess I'm just confused, damn I need a beer...
BRA

[HM]

I don't want to hear pro or con about war from anybody that never picked up a gun for this country. JMO.
Yep, everybody knows that being in the military makes you an expert on foreign policy, global economics, and politics.

[moneypit]

Certain problems wont go away no matter what you do... Hurricanes cant sent away... DO you actually think nothing will be done to help all of those suffering?
It will take time, but they will be helped.. DO yourself a favor and turn the news off.

[OGShocker]

And, BTW, I said "carried a gun", not a mop. :D :D
j/k j/k don't hit me with your mop. :D
You should be nice to the NAVY, the Marines need taxis. :D

[moneypit]

What pisses me off is some mutha' F'r thinks he needs to help himself to a television or a new pair of sneek's..Looting bastards..
If it was food, I can understand..

[MagicMtnDan]

I understand your frustration with the destruction and devastation caused by hurricane Katrina. But your anger is misguided.
This country will step up and do the right thing for its citizens - it always has and always will. We citizens need to step up too and help each other out.
While we're whining, I'd like to see the government spend billions on alternative energy sources. Instead of going to Mars but just like President Kennedy's decision to fund putting a man on the moon, this country would benefit in unbelievable ways if it would invest in our future by funding a massive program to develop alternative energy. We'd all win by the jobs created, the results would significantly lessen pollution and our dependence on oil for vehicles and heating. It's a win-win. Hello, Washington? Any visionaries left or are you all listening to the lobbyists? :220v:

[PalapaHead]

I don't think anybody's blaming the Hurricane on the war or President Bush (although, frankly, I'm convinced he's involved somehow :D). I think people are aggravated that the money we're spending on this war could be better used at home. People are complaining about illegal aliens, the cost of pears, sending $100M to East Bum****agolia, but we've spent almost $200B on a war that a lot of people certainly don't support. I'm all for going to other countries and just killing people, but $200B is a lot of money.
Precisely

[mirvin]

I think this has alot to do with WHAT IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JOB?? I say their job is to protect the soveregnty of our nation. To create and sustain an atmosphere whereby we can live with liberty etc.....
It's not their job to pay for our healthcare and to provide for us....that's OUR job. That's why the "we could use the Iraq War money better" arguement doesn't hold up. IT's apples and oranges here.
NEXT!!!!!
mirvin :wink:

[PalapaHead]

You should be nice to the NAVY, the Marines need taxis. :D
Thats the first time Ive heard. :jawdrop:

[Red Eye]

Uncle Sam's Misguided Children 9 years 2nd Force Recon Co., 22nd MEU(SOC), 1st Force Recon Co. - Beirut - Advanced Party Recon July 1990 Desert Storm.
Oh, and Vietnam. :D
1990 - 9yrs= 1981 Vietnam?

[OGShocker]

I'm all for going to other countries and just killing people, but $200B is a lot of money.
Bullets are a bit more spendy nowadays pops! :D

[Blown 472]

I understand your frustration with the destruction and devastation caused by hurricane Katrina. But your anger is misguided.
This country will step up and do the right thing for its citizens - it always has and always will. We citizens need to step up too and help each other out.
While we're whining, I'd like to see the government spend billions on alternative energy sources. Instead of going to Mars but just like President Kennedy's decision to fund putting a man on the moon, this country would benefit in unbelievable ways if it would invest in our future by funding a massive program to develop alternative energy. We'd all win by the jobs created, the results would significantly lessen pollution and our dependence on oil for vehicles and heating. It's a win-win. Hello, Washington? Any visionaries left or are you all listening to the lobbyists? :220v:
Well gee skippy we could put a shit load of farmers to work, and then take what they grow and make alky,convert cars to run on it, thus cleaner enviro, mo people to work and no drilling, but you forget one thing, the oil industry is not going to let that happen, give up their record profits?? are you some kind of stupid?

[mirvin]

Well, since you said "Next", I guess the discussion's over.
In it's most basic form, a government's job is to execute their authority at the will of it's constituents. There's a lot of constituents that don't agree with how that is being done right now.
By "next" I meant next opinion please.....
I'm just saying that to imply that the money spent in Iraq could be better utilized here at home is rediculous. That's not what the money is for. It's not like the money came out of the "pay for healcare" fund or the "pay for an natural disaster" fund.....that's all I'm saying.
mirvin
:mix:

[Red Eye]

I caught the tail end. :D
It was, of course, a joke, based on the statement made by Havasu Dreamin'.
The only real joke about it is some people say we lost it and of course all people who have served, know we never lost a battle.

[totenhosen]

While we're whining, I'd like to see the government spend billions on alternative energy sources. Instead of going to Mars but just like President Kennedy's decision to fund putting a man on the moon, this country would benefit in unbelievable ways if it would invest in our future by funding a massive program to develop alternative energy.
But than we wouldn't have TANG!

[mirvin]

Here's a question for you vets. It seems to me that the $$COST$$ of a war is directly related to the casualties. As in, we spend a whole crap load of money to minimize human loss.
Maybe people complaining about money would rather see more soldiers lost???
There's a question in there somewhere....I think....???

[Blown 472]

BP has a commercial where they say they are the largest investor in alternative fuels in the US. Just a FYI, I don't claim to know the legitimacy of this claim, nor am I affiliated with BP.
But, I stayed at a holiday inn last night.

[Blown 472]

Here's a question for you vets. It seems to me that the $$COST$$ of a war is directly related to the casualties. As in, we spend a whole crap load of money to minimize human loss.
Maybe people complaining about money would rather see more soldiers lost???
There's a question in there somewhere....I think....???
Put down the magic marker and step away. :hammerhea

[SummitKarl]

I dont think the war has anything to do with a hurricane. DO you? I think a bigggg frickkin wave has more to do with it.
I always kringe when someone spouts off about the war and how it relates this and that.. If it bothers people so much, they otta get do something about it themselves.
Bush is my president. I stand behind him. Do you?
My 02.
I would like to, but it's getting kinda hard, I am not a leeming ready to jump off the cliff just because Bush says to.
like your post from "Brantely" we must be responciable with our freedoms and choices............and right now I don't see President Bush as being responcable to US!!!!!!!!! the Amercian citizens to whom he SWORE!!! to do his duty to.... I support our troops and fully belive in there cause, Freedom is a rare and valuable thing and I am proud our troops are providing freedom to millions that never knew what it was before.
Bush's lack of REACTION!!!! to OUR!!! crisis here at home seriously makes me question his judgement.
but thats just my .02 ,oh wait gas inflation brings that to .04 :)
if there were two people dieing from kidney failure and one of them was any member of your family and one you didn't know, and you had the only kidney to save one of them WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE!!!!!!!!

[Red Eye]

Here's a question for you vets. It seems to me that the $$COST$$ of a war is directly related to the casualties. As in, we spend a whole crap load of money to minimize human loss.
Maybe people complaining about money would rather see more soldiers lost???
There's a question in there somewhere....I think....???
Are you saying if we'd spend less money on the war, then we most likely would have more American lives lost?

[mirvin]

Put down the magic marker and step away. :hammerhea
Admit it Blown....You would much rather pretend to care about a huge amount of soldiers dying but since that hasn't been successfull why not try complaining about the amount of money it costs....
BTW, I am using a sharpie right now.

[Blown 472]

I would like to, but it's getting kinda hard, I am not a leeming ready to jump off the cliff just because Bush says to.
like your post from "Brantely" we must be responciable with our freedoms and choices............and right now I don't see President Bush as being responcable to US!!!!!!!!! the Amercian citizens to whom he SWORE!!! to do his duty to.... I support our troops and fully belive in there cause, Freedom is a rare and valuable thing and I am proud our troops are providing freedom to millions that never knew what it was before.
Bush's lack of REACTION!!!! to OUR!!! crisis here at home seriously makes me question his judgement.
but thats just my .02 ,oh wait gas inflation brings that to .04 :)
if there were two people dieing from kidney failure and one of them was any member of your family and one you didn't know, and you had the only kidney to save one of them WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE!!!!!!!!
Why would he?? the la familia is make shit loads of money right now.

[MagicMtnDan]

Well gee skippy we could put a shit load of farmers to work, and then take what they grow and make alky,convert cars to run on it, thus cleaner enviro, mo people to work and no drilling, but you forget one thing, the oil industry is not going to let that happen, give up their record profits?? are you some kind of stupid?
Blown, that's the most words you've ever strung together in a post not counting the ones you posted on drinking, masturbation and incest :D

[Blown 472]

Blown, that's the most words you've ever strung together in a post not counting the ones you posted on drinking, masturbation and incest :D
Hey thanks, I am making progress.

[mirvin]

Are you saying if we'd spend less money on the war, then we most likely would have more American lives lost?
I think that's what I'm saying. THe technology we use and the equipment we use is very expensive. THat technology and equipment must have something to do with the proportionaltly low number of casualties.
Am I wrong here???

[HM]

It does, in fact, make me an expert on war, which is what this discussion is about.
Really? the discussion is about the strategies of war? Well then, let me whip out my "Art of War" and "Lanchester Theory" books, although "Lanchester Theory" does not fully apply, since it heavily relies on air combat superiority...superiority that dominates the war (while we have that superiority, it is not able to dominate).

[mirvin]

[QUOTE=SummitKarl]
Bush's lack of REACTION!!!! to OUR!!! crisis here at home seriously makes me question his judgement.]
What lack of reaction is it that you speak of. WHat do you expect the president to do???? He just signs papers man. Or did you expect him to turn this into a photo op like all the other whores??

[mirvin]

Alright, General Rommel, settle down.
Holy Geez Bob I just spit my soda all over my computer :D :D :D

[mirvin]

I'm only here for your entertainment, you know that. ;)
Humor, can save, the world, along with randomly, placed, commas,.,,,

[Blown 472]

Alright, General Rommel, settle down.
Reading books about war makes you an expert on war, like viewing porn on the internet makes you a ladies man.
So they are liars?? and here I thought it would help. :confused:

[OGShocker]

.......viewing porn on the internet makes you a ladies man.
CRAP! I just thought it made my eyes sore.

[HM]

Alright, General Rommel, settle down.
Reading books about war makes you an expert on war, like viewing porn on the internet makes you a ladies man.
LOL...well, i read and apply these theories in my business. Business is war, at times. The business applications were so interesting that I read the originals. But, I am invested in this country by owning my own business and support our military. I definitely won't tell them how to fight the war, but I understand more about why were are there than probably 95% of the military personel. I probably could'nt have said that 20 years ago. I use economics, politics, and stategies in my business every day. Would be nice to just punch a time clock and put in 110% and collect a paycheck, but then I would probably be complaining about gas prices and blaming W for wasting our money in Iraq. It sucks being number 1 and having to do the work of the world....but worth it.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

I caught the tail end. :D
It was, of course, a joke, based on the statement made by Havasu Dreamin'.
I had thought you said that at one time. My mistake and I apologize for it.

[HM]

CRAP! I just thought it made my eyes sore.
Nobody told me there was pain involved with going blind?!?!?!?
:eek: :)

[Blown 472]

LOL...well, i read and apply these theories in my business. Business is war, at times. The business applications were so interesting that I read the originals. But, I am invested in this country by owning my own business and support our military. I definitely won't tell them how to fight the war, but I understand more about why were are there than probably 95% of the military personel. I probably could'nt have said that 20 years ago. I use economics, politics, and stategies in my business every day. Would be nice to just punch a time clock and put in 110% and collect a paycheck, but then I would probably be complaining about gas prices and blaming W for wasting our money in Iraq. It sucks being number 1 and having to do the work of the world....but worth it.
Stand back everyone, I think his head is going to get as big as the building. :hammerhea

[Havasu_Dreamin]

like viewing porn on the internet makes you a ladies man.
I knew it would work!

[SummitKarl]

[QUOTE=SummitKarl]
Bush's lack of REACTION!!!! to OUR!!! crisis here at home seriously makes me question his judgement.]
What lack of reaction is it that you speak of. WHat do you expect the president to do???? He just signs papers man. Or did you expect him to turn this into a photo op like all the other whores??
I see this as the problem "just signing papers" and not leading, just kinda standing idely by. am I wrong here isn't our president supose to be the Leader of the free world. yes his job is to sign papers....but more important his job is to lead in the conception of those papers.

[HM]

Stand back everyone, I think his head is going to get as big as the building. :hammerhea
LOL. You have been quite neutral in this whole thing. Cat got your tongue?

[Blown 472]

I see this as the problem "just signing papers" and not leading, just kinda standing idely by. am I wrong here isn't our president supose to be the Leader of the free world. yes his job is to sign papers....but more important his job is to lead in the conception of those papers.
Mo papers he signed.
http://www.counterpunch.org/

[Blown 472]

LOL. You have been quite neutral in this whole thing. Cat got your tongue?
It is the new non caring dont give a **** me.

[mirvin]

I see this as the problem "just signing papers" and not leading, just kinda standing idely by. am I wrong here isn't our president supose to be the Leader of the free world. yes his job is to sign papers....but more important his job is to lead in the conception of those papers.
You've been watching too much WOlf Blitzer.....:D I'm not sure what you're getting at other then maybe you expected a speech or something? You want him to rally the people? Should he have been the first one there flying over in a helicopter?
Maybe you havent' figured out how he works. He says what he's going to do, then he does it. THere's no PR bullshiat involved. No photo ops. Just business.

[HM]

Except without all the dying and shit.
My wife would disagree. While physical death is not usually part of business (Cole boats comes to mind), risking financial devastation can be much more destructive. We came on the ragged edge earlier this year. I had to do a hostile takeover of my business away from my partner who crawled into the fetal position and was crying like a little girly man about not being able to provide for his family....this guy was in the marines and got weak in the knees at the first sign of financial trouble. Fianancial devastation can and does have far reaching consequences...ever see the suicides on Wall Street during crashes?
Don't worry, luckily for people like me, we provide the neccesary profits (not just revenue) that pays for the military...and it is worth every penny.

[mirvin]

Surrounded by lots and lots of vacation and general fing off. :D
At least he aint in Mawtha's Vinyawd :D

[HM]

It is the new non caring dont give a **** me.
You focker....it is the same old you...you just got a new lable and jacked up the price!!! excellent, grasshopper.
:rollside: :rollside:

[Blown 472]

You focker....it is the same old you...you just got a new lable and jacked up the price!!! excellent, grasshopper.
:rollside: :rollside:
I have walked the rice paper.

[Ziggy]

I see this as the problem "just signing papers" and not leading, just kinda standing idely by. am I wrong here isn't our president supose to be the Leader of the free world. yes his job is to sign papers....but more important his job is to lead in the conception of those papers.
If thats really what you think he's supposed to do then he don't need all those Advisors, Cabinet members, etc..........Chit, we could pay for the war and releif funds without all those salaries......Our worries are over now. :rolleyes:
.
Who else thinks its strange to have such powerful natural disasters happening so often? Unusual weather paterns, shrinkage of the Polar caps....on and on and on.
If anything is dying its our mother Earth and she is giving us signals....The trip to Mars may be needed sooner than you think.

[mirvin]

Mo papers he signed.
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Good gawd man. Does "Blown" mean that you've blown you're intelligence?? That is some good humor though. ARe you sure that's not from the Onion??
mirvin :rollside:

[HM]

Hey, do you live by Adam from Wired for Sound?
I don't know him, but I think he does. Big lifted dually truck with "Wired For Sound" sign on the back window and he has a twin engine green Eliminator with "Wired For Sound" on the sides and a lowered black chevy standard cab black truck that is has a "Wired For Sound" graphics all over.
I think he has been avoiding the new white trash that moved in across the street. :D

[HM]

He doesn't post much. I was in his shop today and he was asking if I knew who moved in across the street, that he was a HB member. I said no, but I remembered somebody listed Canyon Lake in their profile and I couldn't remember who. It was you, I saw it when we were discussing your bitch slap incident the other day. :D
I'll let him know this weekend that it's "HolyMoly" and to steer clear of your place, it may be boobytrapped. :D
LOL....no boobytraps, but lots of rabbit holes. I just moved a couple blocks within Canyon Lake and my previous neighbors are still partying! You would think I would learn one of these days that I really am an a-hole!
How did he know an HB member moved in? It is not like I was flashing him the shocker or stroking my dog? :messedup:

[SummitKarl]

You've been watching too much WOlf Blitzer.....:D I'm not sure what you're getting at other then maybe you expected a speech or something? You want him to rally the people? Should he have been the first one there flying over in a helicopter?
Maybe you havent' figured out how he works. He says what he's going to do, then he does it. THere's no PR bullshiat involved. No photo ops. Just business.
wolf blitzer.....good one :D but no I don't watch that stuff :rollside: he does have a cool sounding name though :)
I don't know about the fly over but the rest sounds good to me, thats what a good leader/manager is supose to do, ralley His or Her people to a unified goal.
The other courious thing here is the stock market, why is if a stock goes balistic (in either direction) the market suspends trading on that stock for the day........yet when pubically traded oil does this.....a big NOTHING!!! :confused:

[ROZ]

You can say what ya want, but fact remains that stupid idiots built a city below sealevel a little tooooo close to water...

[Ziggy]

You can say what ya want, but fact remains that stupid idiots built a city below sealevel a little tooooo close to water...
So true...Hey lets build a city in the bottom of the pool......excuse me, bowl.

[ROZ]

So true...Hey lets build a city in the bottom of the pool......excuse me, bowl.
If you build it, the beads will come :D

[HM]

He said you looked like you were from Beaumont and wanted to swap wives.
Why do people keep thinking that? (atleast the Beaumont part):mad: :D
I have not seen them a whole lot. I have been puting in stupid hours at my office since I moved in. The street is really quiet.....or was really quiet. :D
I need to go introduce myself the neighbors so they can put a name with the expliatives they shout when they see me. :shift::shift::shift: