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lucky
01-09-2006, 09:10 AM
I laid 1/4 hardy backer on my floor - now i have a fiberglass base ( shower ) and i need to tile the back walls of shower -- what is the best backer -- durrock or backer board Oppinions -- I do not want to ever screw with the bathroom for another 15 years -- so quality over price !

Flashover
01-09-2006, 09:23 AM
I laid 1/4 hardy backer on my floor - now i have a fiberglass base ( shower ) and i need to tile the back walls of shower -- what is the best backer -- durrock or backer board Oppinions -- I do not want to ever screw with the bathroom for another 15 years -- so quality over price !
Use the durrock it is real good stuff, it hold up real well and is easy to use.

NorCal Gameshow
01-09-2006, 10:12 AM
kerdi works great. it goes on top of the drywall as a waterproof membrane. it's easy to use and if your grout ever leaks, it doesn't hold the moisture like durock or hardi.
kerdi website (http://www.kerdi.com/english/products/2002/sectionf/kerdi/801-index.html)

Mr. Crusader 83
01-09-2006, 10:16 AM
you want to use "green board" you can pick it up at home depot it is by the lumber section, near the drywall. its a water proof hardi backer board. will last a very long time. install it right to the studs. tape and mud your joints just like on drywall. then just install your tile ontop of that. then be sure to seal your grout lines.
do not install anything in a shower over drywall, it will fall apart in less then 2 years. strip the walls down to bare studs and install the green board.
should be good. will last you a very long time.

NorCal Gameshow
01-09-2006, 10:22 AM
Crusader check the kerdi website.
Lucky, greenboard isn't recommended by the pros I know. it's still organic and mold will love it

lucky
01-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Crusader check the kerdi website.
Lucky, greenboard isn't recommended by the pros I know. it's still organic and mold will love it
is there a supplier over in sac ? I'D BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO IT !

NorCal Gameshow
01-09-2006, 10:40 AM
is there a supplier over in sac ? I'D BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO IT !
http://www.cortopassitile.com/
it is also at bedrosians.
another product is wedi board. there is a distributor in roseville and sacramento
wedi board (http://www.wedi.co.uk/using.htm)

soupersonic
01-09-2006, 10:50 AM
I used regular backer board then this stuff called REDGARD, its a gel that paints on and creates a waterproof barrier, than you can tile to it when it dries.I dunno if its good or bad i just did what i was told :)

lucky
01-09-2006, 10:57 AM
http://www.cortopassitile.com/
it is also at bedrosians.
another product is wedi board. there is a distributor in roseville and sacramento
wedi board (http://www.wedi.co.uk/using.htm)
THANKS

Mandelon
01-09-2006, 11:23 AM
you want to use "green board" you can pick it up at home depot it is by the lumber section, near the drywall. its a water proof hardi backer board. will last a very long time. install it right to the studs. tape and mud your joints just like on drywall. then just install your tile ontop of that. then be sure to seal your grout lines.
do not install anything in a shower over drywall, it will fall apart in less then 2 years. strip the walls down to bare studs and install the green board.
should be good. will last you a very long time.
NO NO NO NO NO. Greenboard is moisture resistant only. Not waterproof. It will fall apart and does support mold growth.
Hardibacker or Durrock are fine for what you are doing. It should be attached to the floor with thinset adhesive and screws. Seam the joints with fiberglass tape and skim with the thinset. Keep the rough side up. When setting your tile use the good thinset, the one with the additives. White for light tile, Gray for dark tile.
Don't forget a vapor retarder. You should appply it to the studs before you put up the backerboard. Tyvek is tough and works well, you can also use Aquabar or stucco paper, but they can tear fairly easily. Some brands recommend a poly sheeting, but that can cause condensation. You want to allow for a little vapor transmission that's why I like Tyvek.

lucky
01-09-2006, 11:34 AM
NO NO NO NO NO. Greenboard is moisture resistant only. Not waterproof. It will fall apart and does support mold growth.
Hardibacker or Durrock are fine for what you are doing. It should be attached to the floor with thinset adhesive and screws. Seam the joints with fiberglass tape and skim with the thinset. Keep the rough side up. When setting your tile use the good thinset, the one with the additives. White for light tile, Gray for dark tile.
Don't forget a vapor retarder. You should appply it to the studs before you put up the backerboard. Tyvek is tough and works well, you can also use Aquabar or stucco paper, but they can tear fairly easily. Some brands recommend a poly sheeting, but that can cause condensation. You want to allow for a little vapor transmission that's why I like Tyvek.
THANKS MANDY

me4darvr
01-09-2006, 12:34 PM
NO NO NO NO NO. Greenboard is moisture resistant only. Not waterproof. It will fall apart and does support mold growth.
Hardibacker or Durrock are fine for what you are doing. It should be attached to the floor with thinset adhesive and screws. Seam the joints with fiberglass tape and skim with the thinset. Keep the rough side up. When setting your tile use the good thinset, the one with the additives. White for light tile, Gray for dark tile.
Don't forget a vapor retarder. You should appply it to the studs before you put up the backerboard. Tyvek is tough and works well, you can also use Aquabar or stucco paper, but they can tear fairly easily. Some brands recommend a poly sheeting, but that can cause condensation. You want to allow for a little vapor transmission that's why I like Tyvek.
I have done 3 out of the 4 bathrooms in my past 2 houses over the last 25 years and have never had a problem using greenboard. Besides, in a shower, you normally tile to above the shower head and hot mop any areas that water will come in contact with on a daily basis. Again, not trying to say you guys aren't right about it, but just my 2 cents about the greenboard

NorCal Gameshow
01-09-2006, 12:45 PM
NO NO NO NO NO. Greenboard is moisture resistant only. Not waterproof. It will fall apart and does support mold growth.
Hardibacker or Durrock are fine for what you are doing. It should be attached to the floor with thinset adhesive and screws. Seam the joints with fiberglass tape and skim with the thinset. Keep the rough side up. When setting your tile use the good thinset, the one with the additives. White for light tile, Gray for dark tile.
Don't forget a vapor retarder. You should appply it to the studs before you put up the backerboard. Tyvek is tough and works well, you can also use Aquabar or stucco paper, but they can tear fairly easily. Some brands recommend a poly sheeting, but that can cause condensation. You want to allow for a little vapor transmission that's why I like Tyvek.
also, leave a gap between the pan and the backerboard,so it can't wick up moisture ;)