Radar Detectors, Worth it or not

[JustMVG]

Just wondering if the getting one is worth it and wanted to know if anyone here has one uses one or gave up on it.
I am looking at 2 models the first is the Valentine 1 and the Bel 8500, both p/up all the bands but the V1 has arrows that give the direction from where the signal is generated, but the v1 is a $100.00 bucks more than the 8500.
So before i go spending money on this any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mikey

[RidinRed]

i dont drive without, saved my a$$ plenty. Read all you can, I found info thru search and clips from magazine tests online. I use Escort and love it,
i am on my second. probably 6-7 yrs old now and going to replace just because there is so much advancement in radar.
All should work well, but you will be surprised in how the so called experts rate them, and where you drive (i.e. hills, town, Fwy....). V1 is good but pricey.

[RiverOtter]

The only radar detector worth having is the Valentine 1. It has saved my arse more times than I can count now. Expensive but worth it! :cool:

[JetBoatRich]

Nobody speeds around here :rolleyes:

[RiverOtter]

Nobody speeds around here :rolleyes:
Nobody drives the speed limit here :D

[Havasu Hangin']

My V1 lets me know where the ka radar is long before they see me.

[JetBoatRich]

If someone were to buy one :rolleyes: where would the best place be :confused:

[Havasu Hangin']

If someone were to buy one :rolleyes: where would the best place be :confused:
The V1 gets beat up for not selling at retailers, and it is rather expensive, but it payed for itself with the first ticket it saved me.
www.Valentine1.com
Every year the car mags do a radar shootout, and every year the V1 seems to come out on top. The ka sensitivity is top-notch, but it also tracks multiple signals and tells you which direction they are coming from. Very handy if there is a radar or laser trap near another radar source.

[MagicMtnDan]

The ONLY radar detector to use is the Valentine V1 - believe it!
https://store.valentine1.com/store/products/20015.gif

[Garrddogg]

This is the one!
https://store.valentine1.com/store/products/20015.gif

[ahhell]

I use my kids 50.00 one and it saved my ass last sunday

[Kilrtoy]

Nothing beats this one,
GAR-IN-U-TEED :cry: :cry:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111Picture015_1_.JPG

[Havasu Hangin']

Nothing beats this one,
GAR-IN-U-TEED :cry: :cry:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111Picture015_1_.JPG
You brainwashed types probably don't want to hear it, but I beat it.
GAR-IN-U-TEED

[MagicMtnDan]

Nothing beats this one,
GAR-IN-U-TEED :cry: :cry:
Whatever. It's hard to catch people speeding when you're busy sitting in a doughnut shop.
http://members.fortunecity.com/loozing_it/loozing/copgran2.gif

[Jordy]

I had a Passport for years and years and it saved me quite a few tickets, but when it gave up the ghost I went with the V1 and it blows me away. It will pick up radar so far back that you are sure that it's a false alarm, but sure enough, get down the road some more and the insensity is increasing and there they are. I'm sold and gladly sing their praises. :D

[drejustice]

A radar detector might be good for you if you are in a state where the cops sit in their speed traps with their radar constantly on.
Radar is much less effective in some states where they use other tactics. One state I drive through, the cops use the instant on/off radar only when the car they want to check is in sight and in range. Sure the detector gives you a warning but the cop has got the info they want. Also radar/laser detectors don't give you as much bang for the buck with states that use laser like Maryland. In Maryland, radar detectors are legal as all the state patrol use laser :) They just sight you in...and pull the trigger, Your laser detector screams.....but the .05 second the laser hit you the cop already has your speed before you slow down.
So sure it helps but you have to still stay aware of how you are driving.

[Jordy]

A radar detector might be good for you if you are in a state where the cops sit in their speed traps with their radar constantly on.
They use instant on all the time out here. The trick is not to be the only one on the road and have maximum range. As soon as they hit someone, and from what I've seen with the V1, this can happen a couple miles down the road, you know they're there. What you do after that is up to you though. Gotta drive smart or you may as well not have it. Getting a false sense of security because of the detector will only lead you to lots of tickets. ;)

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Valentine 1 is the only way to go. Well worth the extra expense.

[HOOTER SLED-]

Bunch of crooked mofos up in here. Just obey the damn law you trouble makers. :D

[HOOTER SLED-]

My V1 lets me know where the ka radar is long before they see me.
Now if we could only get a detector that warns us when the mods are coming. :crossx: :D

[Eliminator 4 Life]

I had a cobra and it worked fine and then I bought a V1 on e bay a few months old and I wouldnt buy anyone but the V1 it kicks ass. I like the V1 cause it gives arrows showing where the cop is. But in my opinion they work just the same.

[Boa1277]

My Buddy purchased one that actually jams the cops radar detector and gives you a warning it was very expensive and supposedly illegal to use in some states, but he could care less if it saved him a ticket... I will find out which one it was..

[JetBoatRich]

if it is illegal to have one in some states :rolleyes: what do you get a BIG ticket/fine :rolleyes: you were speeding anyways :p how do they catch you :rolleyes:

[2Driver]

After going through a couple models I came to the conclusion it was usually easier to just stay at 10 MPH over and relax. Speed limits are 65- 75 MPH anyway.
We get there in just about the same time and I was never confident in going 20-25MPH over and hoping the detector would save me 100% of the time. If I drove for a living it might be different.

[RiverToysJas]

At $400 the V1 comes about $170 short of covering my recent 90/55 radar ticket in South OC ($220 short if you don't count the traffic school fee). Still, the unit will pay for itself in 1-3 tickets, depending on what you get popped for and where. That's not too bad on one hand, but on the other hand you have to consider how many radar tickets you are likely to get.
I have had 3 total in my 20years of driving. One on surface streets, and another around Morro Bay, 85/55, that he wrote for 70 and didn't cost me much. The 94/65 I got years ago on the 57frwy was paced, and cost me over $300.
I like the idea of getting one, but the ecconomics of it just don't pan out for me.
RTJas :D

[Jordy]

I like the idea of getting one, but the ecconomics of it just don't pan out for me.
RTJas :D
Is that why you still ride a 3 wheeler??? :D

[Havasu Hangin']

At $400 the V1 comes about $170 short of covering my recent 90/55 radar ticket in South OC ($220 short if you don't count the traffic school fee). Still, the unit will pay for itself in 1-3 tickets, depending on what you get popped for and where. That's not too bad on one hand, but on the other hand you have to consider how many radar tickets you are likely to get.
I have had 3 total in my 20years of driving. One on surface streets, and another around Morro Bay, 85/55, that he wrote for 70 and didn't cost me much. The 94/65 I got years ago on the 57frwy was paced, and cost me over $300.
I like the idea of getting one, but the ecconomics of it just don't pan out for me.
RTJas :D
Two comments:
1. You need to be going faster so the detector will pay for itself with the higher fine.
2. Did you count traffic school and/or insurance implications?

[RiverToysJas]

Two comments:
1. You need to be going faster so the detector will pay for itself with the higher fine.
2. Did you count traffic school and/or insurance implications?
First to Jordy.....YES! ;) .....Plus I don't care if I roll a $1500 bike.
Now to Jeff....
1. > 20-25 over is fast enough these days (My speeding tickets - 55/35, 94/65, 85)/55 construction zone (written as 70/55 w/o mentioning the construction zone)... I don't need to put the public in more danger than I already do. ;) :D All of those were in the early to mid 90s. Then there was the recent 90/55.
2. > Recent ticket in South OC - 90 in a 55, was $178 w/o traffic school, and $232 w/ traffic school. I do not include insurance because AAA allows you one ticket on your record, and with traffic schools, my record has never showed more than that amount. I let the 94/65 go on my record to keep the out of pocket expense a little lower. AAA did not raise my rates.
RTJas :D

[Kilrtoy]

Can anyone tell me the reaction time of a driver? What the normal coefficient of friction is under normal braking conditions of a PASSENGER CAR?
the difference of the stopping distance using these two BASIC factors between driving 40MPH and driving 60MPH.
Its actually very simple.

[MAINEVENT]

Can anyone tell me the reaction time of a driver? What the normal coefficient of friction is under normal braking conditions of a PASSENGER CAR?
the difference of the stopping distance using these two BASIC factors between driving 40MPH and driving 60MPH.
Its actually very simple.
Are you bored again????????

[Kilrtoy]

Are you bored again????????
No, But that is what my new VALENTINE asked me....

[Beer-30]

Can anyone tell me the reaction time of a driver? What the normal coefficient of friction is under normal braking conditions of a PASSENGER CAR?
the difference of the stopping distance using these two BASIC factors between driving 40MPH and driving 60MPH.
Its actually very simple.
Avg human reaction time for braking is 3/4 of a second.
.70 on avg. dry roadway. Grooved concrete can be up to .98. Wet asphalt is usually around .35-.38.
60 mph is about 88 feet per second.

[AZJD]

I got a sppeding ticket 112mph in a 75, on I-10 in November, no radar detector....went back to appear in court and had Jordy's V1 and irony set in, I was coming around the same bend just before the spot I got my ticket and the thing started going off. I was like damn wish I had this a month ago......The cop was not where he got me, but where he had me pulled over 1 1/2 miles down the road facing opposite direction with someone else pulled over in the same spot where I had been written up. More than 2 miles away I started beeping.

[Kilrtoy]

I should have known, That I would have to post an expemtion list on this.....
So now that they have received credible information on that.
What is the difference in feet per second on those two speeds and the stopping distance.
For agruement sake use a coefficient of 60%
BEER-30 you are banned from answering this one....

[AZJD]

I got a sppeding ticket 112mph in a 75, on I-10 in November, no radar detector....went back to appear in court and had Jordy's V1 and irony set in, I was coming around the same bend just before the spot I got my ticket and the thing started going off. I was like damn wish I had this a month ago......The cop was not where he got me, but where he had me pulled over 1 1/2 miles down the road facing opposite direction with someone else pulled over in the same spot where I had been written up. More than 2 miles away I started beeping.
And at $400 or so, It more than covers my $718.00 ticket, not to mention I should have been taken to jail but someone(who will remain nameless) flirted my way out of it.....
No comments from HH please! lol

[Kilrtoy]

And at $400 or so, It more than covers my $718.00 ticket, not to mention I should have been taken to jail but someone(who will remain nameless) flirted my way out of it.....
No comments from HH please! lol
Cop must have an ugly wife, to fall for that crap........

[BajaMike]

if it is illegal to have one in some states :rolleyes: what do you get a BIG ticket/fine :rolleyes: you were speeding anyways :p how do they catch you :rolleyes:
Are they illegal in Calif or AZ? :confused: :confused:

[Havasu Hangin']

Can anyone tell me the reaction time of a driver? What the normal coefficient of friction is under normal braking conditions of a PASSENGER CAR?
the difference of the stopping distance using these two BASIC factors between driving 40MPH and driving 60MPH.
Its actually very simple.
Once again, Kilr...I know it's tough, but PLEASE get your brain out of the "brainwashing mode".
My detector picks up laser on cars in front of, and around me. It gives me plenty of warning, as long as I am not first in line (unlike Jason, I am not dumb enough to be first in line).
With radar or instant-on, if you are the only car on the road, you are in deep do-do. However, believe it or not, there are usually more than two cars on the road in So Cal at one time.

[Kilrtoy]

HH,
I have seen how fast you tow and that aint no little boat, I think you may even be over limit as far as weight to brakes go..... :p :p

[Havasu Hangin']

HH,
I have seen how fast you tow and that aint no little boat, I think you may even be over limit as far as weight to brakes go..... :p :p
Since I have brakes on all three axles...stopping the boat is not a problem.
However, I do seem to have a problem stopping my fat ass from eating so much.

[PHOTOGLOU]

I haven't read anything in this thread yet but YES Passport X50 works great..... has already saved me twice in the last 2 weeks.... Jay

[Kilrtoy]

Invite me to lunch and I will eat for you......and the laser detectors wont be needed....

[Dave C]

LOL Kilrtoy...... stick it to him, I think his attitude needs a re-adjustment too...! get the nightstick out.
Oh and his taillight is broke too.

[Kilrtoy]

I haven't read anything in this thread yet but YES Passport X50 works great..... has already saved me twice in the last 2 weeks.... Jay
I dont think even the copters could catch you.....

[Kilrtoy]

LOL Kilrtoy...... stick it to him, I think his attitude needs a re-adjustment too...! get the nightstick out.
Oh and his taillight is broke too.
OHHHHHHHH, the ole , your taillight is broken trick, NO ITS NOT,
IT IS NOW......
I like it

[Dave C]

thanks for the tips everyone!
I am going to buy one.
I am usually a law abiding person :rolleyes: but the accelerator on this thing seems to be malfunctioning. It only seems to work correctly at 110. ;)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/904caddy.jpg
besides 70 mph seems like 45 mph...... I don't know why. :rolleyes:

[YeLLowBoaT]

thanks for the tips everyone!
I am going to buy one.
I am usually a law abiding person :rolleyes: but the accelerator on this thing seems to be malfunctioning. It only seems to work correctly at 110. ;)
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/904caddy.jpg
besides 70 mph seems like 45 mph...... I don't know why. :rolleyes:
Don't take this the wrong way.
I HOPE YOU GET PULLED OVER.

[Dave C]

how should I take that... I don't think there IS a right way...
P.S. the average speed actually says "35 mph" LOL
Don't take this the wrong way.
I HOPE YOU GET PULLED OVER.

[OGShocker]

if it is illegal to have one in some states :rolleyes: what do you get a BIG ticket/fine :rolleyes: you were speeding anyways :p how do they catch you :rolleyes:
The all new Radar Detector Detector, I guess.. :idea:

[BajaMike]

I've got the V1 and it works great.
I use it mostly on the highway, you get a lot of false positives around shopping centers and airports.
It's saved my ass a bunch of times on the way to the River and on Rice Rd.
One summer night about midnight on Rice Rd i'm on cruise control at about 100 mph with the sunroof open in my BMW. Not a car in site, I come over a hill and the thing starts wailing at me....I slam on brakes, go down to 70 mph, and just then out of no where a pair of headlights pop up ahead in the distance.
I soon realize they are up in the air....i figure its a highway patrol aircraft. May V1 is wailing like crazy, and the plane pulls straight up in front of me...lights his afterburners....and scares the hell out of me....it was some kind of military jet....maybe using me for target practice. I could feel the heat from his jets through the sun roof. :idea:
You also get a lot of false positives on the way to Mammoth on Hwy 395, out where the FAA radar station is....it beeps for about 50 miles on either side of it.
:boxed: :rollside:

[Beer-30]

BEER-30 you are banned from answering this one....
:)
You didn't by chance ride your motor up here for the chippie funeral a few weeks ago, did you? Saw a few LAPD motors. Sirens kept screwing up in the rain.

[Kilrtoy]

:)
You didn't by chance ride your motor up here for the chippie funeral a few weeks ago, did you? Saw a few LAPD motors. Sirens kept screwing up in the rain.
No I have been sick for a few weeks. Or I would have.....

[RiverDave]

Do radar detectors work? Hell yes they work.. I don't care what Kilrtoy tells you. I borrowed my roomates Audi, and was cruising down Palomar Airport road. This thing starts going bazerk in the car so I slow down trying to figure out what all the racquet is about.. Come over the hill and there's Ponchrelli right there..
On the flipside though.. I don't have a radar detector and the only ticket I have gotten recently is a seat belt ticket. He has the radar detector and he just got a letter in the mail that claims one more point and he's screwed.. LOL So maybe they do'nt work?
RD

[Kilrtoy]

Do radar detectors work? Hell yes they work.. I don't care what Kilrtoy tells you.
RD
Please qoute me Dave where I said they dont work.....
PLEASE...............

[RiverToysJas]

Nothing beats this one,
GAR-IN-U-TEED :cry: :cry:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111Picture015_1_.JPG
Weren't you saying radar detectors can't beat this radar gun? Therefore, they don't work against it? :confused:

[Kilrtoy]

Weren't you saying radar detectors can't beat this radar gun? Therefore, they don't work against it? :confused:
re-read your own qoute and therein lies the answer, You cant BEAT IT.
Now how you pull out IT DOES NOT WORK, would even be hard for Jessie Jackson to corelate :rolleyes:

[RiverDave]

Well there ya go.. I must've mis-read what ya wrote? I thought you were implying that they don't work. I.E. they will detect, but only after you have been caught kinda deal?
Thought I remembered some thread where you and HH got into it a year or two ago, where by which he was claiming they do work, and you were claiming they don't as well?
RD

[78Eliminator]

Traffic cops suck.

[Kilrtoy]

Well there ya go.. I must've mis-read what ya wrote? I thought you were implying that they don't work. I.E. they will detect, but only after you have been caught kinda deal?
Thought I remembered some thread where you and HH got into it a year or two ago, where by which he was claiming they do work, and you were claiming they don't as well?
RD
yes I recall that happening a few times....
I have never said they dont work, I have even explained how they work, but in order to work you must have detection of a signal...
YES
on the way to the river they will save you... In the city with all the cross interferance, Good luck.
remember speed cites are visual estimation backed up with the lidar device....

[Havasu_Dreamin]

remember speed cites are visual estimation backed up with the lidar device....
As in the officer estimating the speed of an approcahing vehicle while he/she is sitting there? How accurate is that? Just curious.

[Kilrtoy]

As in the officer estimating the speed of an approcahing vehicle while he/she is sitting there? How accurate is that? Just curious.
I don't know about the same as a guy watching a boat drive by and go DUDE that boat is haulin azz, its going about 80...... and guess what the boat is doing 80mph..
So you tell me, I know the general public is smarter than cops, but even my 7 year old can estimate speed.....

[78Eliminator]

Next time a meter maid on a bike flashes his blue lights at me, I am going to slam my brakes on as hard as I can and see if he can estimate how fast he is traveling when he flys over the top of my truck.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

I don't know about the same as a guy watching a boat drive by and go DUDE that boat is haulin azz, its going about 80...... and guess what the boat is doing 80mph..
So you tell me, I know the general public is smarter than cops, but even my 7 year old can estimate speed.....
No reason to get defensive I was just curious how the visual portion worked that's all. You know, from a learn something new everyday perspective. Geesh.

[78Eliminator]

No reason to get defensive I was just curious how the visual portion worked that's all. You know, from a learn something new everyday perspective. Geesh.
I fought a ticket based on that defense. I took pictures, made a nice presentation, and showed that the cop shooting radar had no way to estimate my speed before he got a biased opinion from his radar gun (he was hidden between trees and could not see me until I was right in front of him).
So I fought the ticket, was very professional and polite in court and the judge said "You presented a very nice case and I would have dismissed your citation if you didn't already have a speeding ticket on your record." I lost. Nice justice system. Basically he told me I was not guilty but found me guilty. Idiot.

[Kilrtoy]

No reason to get defensive I was just curious how the visual portion worked that's all. You know, from a learn something new everyday perspective. Geesh.
Not defensive, but people do it all day, sorry it came across like that

[RiverRatMike]

go here http://www.radarbusters.com and read all about the cheapest ones and the best ones.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Not defensive, but people do it all day, sorry it came across like that
No worries. Emotion and sarcasm are sometimes hard to detect in a text only format.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

go here http://www.radarbusters.com and read all about the cheapest ones and the best ones.
Personally I found that site to be biased for the detectors he can sell. Not a truly independent evaluation, IMHO.

[Jordy]

HH,
I have seen how fast you tow and that aint no little boat, I think you may even be over limit as far as weight to brakes go..... :p :p
Hey HH, just stay out of the school zones and you'll be just fine. :D :D :D

[BajaMike]

JetBoatRich,
Try www.valentine1.com for all of your answers to your questions.
The real question is, can V1 be found by an instrument called a "radar-detector detector?"
Good radar detectors, like good AM/FM radios, are super-heterodyne receivers, and they all share a common trait. They receive, but they also transmit a signal; it's called "local oscillator emissions." This transmitted signal can be found by another radio if it's tuned to the right frequency. A radar-detector detector is merely a radio tuned to the right frequency range for most detectors.
VG2 is the most famous of the radar-detector detectors.
A little history: Escort was the first X-K super-heterodyne detector. Jim Jaeger and I invented it, working out of his basement in the mid-seventies. Since then, other detector makers have taken the easy way and copied Escort's frequency scheme, which means they have the same L-O frequency. So VG2 knows right where to tune for them.
The one detector that's apart from the pack is V1. I didn't copy myself. So VG2 misses Valentine One. In our tests, Valentine One is better than all others for VG2-proofing. Our best competitors are pretty good, maybe good enough. Some others resort to a dubious strategy; they switch off their radar protection when they sense VG2 nearby.
Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
Rio
Interesting....so Rio....are radar detectors illigal in Calif and AZ??

[Hal]

I have an Escort X50 Passport 8500 and it has never let me down. The thing is uncannily accurate. Chech out this site. http://www.radarbusters.com/

[Jordy]

Interesting....so Rio....are radar detectors illigal in Calif and AZ??
From the webpage listed in the quote above:
Question: Aren't radar detectors illegal in a lot of places?
- T.G., Virginia
Answer: You still have the right to know when you're under radar surveillance almost everywhere in the US. The exceptions are Virginia, which bans detector use, and nearby Washington, D.C., which bans possession. Canada is much less friendly toward civil liberties. Detectors are banned everywhere except British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan.

[goneboatin]

Valentine V1, all the way. Accept no substitutes.

[Havasu Hangin']

I am usually a law abiding person :rolleyes: but the accelerator on this thing seems to be malfunctioning. It only seems to work correctly at 110. ;)
Yes, Dave...speeding is a crime. Shame on you.
http://www.highperformancecars.com/hhangin/speedo.jpg

[GMFL]

Next time a meter maid on a bike flashes his blue lights at me, I am going to slam my brakes on as hard as I can and see if he can estimate how fast he is traveling when he flys over the top of my truck.
This whole thread was getting kind of boring until I read this.
Thats funny, I almost spit my beer out :boxed:

[Norseman]

My Buddy purchased one that actually jams the cops radar detector and gives you a warning it was very expensive and supposedly illegal to use in some states, but he could care less if it saved him a ticket... I will find out which one it was..
One of the engineers I sold componets to at Hazeltine on LI had a system that jammed radar about 15 years ago. It was something they put together in one of the labs. He drove about 70 miles each way to work, at higher than the approved 55MPH speed limit. Apparently one of the cops on the LIE got tired of having him fly by and have the radar system come back at 55MPH. So he set up radar on the exit, and clocked Dan at 55 MPH on a 25 MPH exit ramp. At 30MPH over it was an expensive ticket, especially after the cop had a private talk with the judge. Tough to explain in court. :argue:

[Norseman]

yes I recall that happening a few times....
I have never said they dont work, I have even explained how they work, but in order to work you must have detection of a signal...
YES
on the way to the river they will save you... In the city with all the cross interferance, Good luck.
remember speed cites are visual estimation backed up with the lidar device....
Radar detectors work very well, when your not the first or 2nd car in that line of cars doing 75 or 80. If your number one, by the time it warns you, your toast!!!!!

[ParkerSteve]

If i'm not flying, up there, I'm usually flying down here..The V1 found chp 3.5 miles out on rice road. paid for itself .....I'm a believer..... :

[78Eliminator]

This whole thread was getting kind of boring until I read this.
Thats funny, I almost spit my beer out :boxed:
Ha! Yeah, it is a very rare type of humor, but twice as funny.

[FuelInMyVeins82]

I've got the Beltech RX65 and it works great. It shows the diferent frequencys w/ is nice and w/ the my experiences the only one you really have to watch out for is the KA frequency. K and X are usually other radar detectors or garage door openers ect. Mine also pics up laser but have not had many alarms.
Over all I recomend the Beltech RX65.
Also From I've heard Beltech and Escort are the same company.

[RidinRed]

Next time a meter maid on a bike flashes his blue lights at me, I am going to slam my brakes on as hard as I can and see if he can estimate how fast he is traveling when he flys over the top of my truck.
Now that's funny! I dont care who you are.
woke half the house laughing now

[djunkie]

Bunch of crooked mofos up in here. Just obey the damn law you trouble makers. :D
For once I'm gonna have to agree with you. :crossx:

[drejustice]

Check this out
http://www.radarbusters.com/default.asp
This is where I got my info before I bought one. Even though he sells them he gives you the pros and cons of each one that they test. He's a licensed radar instructor.
He even covers the topic of radar detector DETECTORs to include the Spectra 1 and 2.
Also included are Laser Detectors.
So stop listening to the hoopla and get the actual info and make your own informed decisions. Regardless of facts, people will still draw their own conclusions even if it goes against common sense.
:)