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riverroyal
01-12-2006, 01:15 PM
crash on you bike and dont even have a motorcycle licence!!!!!!!I guess migrants can go ahead a drive anything then,start stacking mattresses amigo

BarryMac
01-12-2006, 01:19 PM
crash on you bike and dont even have a motorcycle licence!!!!!!!I guess migrants can go ahead a drive anything then,start stacking mattresses amigo
But RR, it is so much fun having a big celebrity with NO political experience run the 5th largest economy in the World... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

HCS
01-12-2006, 01:20 PM
You don't need a licence when you have the CHP for body guards. :hammer2:

LAFD
01-12-2006, 01:26 PM
heard that this morning but also heard something that cause it had a sidecar it was ok. something like that...

Wet Dream
01-12-2006, 01:27 PM
You guys get the news a little slow. Hell, we got that yesterday, and we're 3000 miles away.

Ziggy
01-12-2006, 01:28 PM
heard that this morning but also heard something that cause it had a sidecar it was ok. something like that...
Yup, technically, he wasn't riding a motorcycle and it fell into a 3 wheeled vehicle that doesn't require the MC class on your license....
Still, poor example on his part.

ROZ
01-12-2006, 01:30 PM
I rode a motorcycle w/o the designated license... Sue me .... :D

riverroyal
01-12-2006, 01:31 PM
what do you have i need ROZ?

riverroyal
01-12-2006, 01:32 PM
kinda gay isnt it?Was Maria in it?

a catered life
01-12-2006, 01:33 PM
You don't need a licence when you have the CHP for body guards. :hammer2:
body guards or looking to get a break in their budget

Kilrtoy
01-12-2006, 01:43 PM
Yup, technically, he wasn't riding a motorcycle and it fell into a 3 wheeled vehicle that doesn't require the MC class on your license....
Still, poor example on his part.
WRONG
he was 12500(B)(2) CVC. his motorcycle, YES MOTORCYCLE should be impounded for 30 days and his priviledge to operate any motor vehicle should be suspended, THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU....
And this was witnessed by his CHP escort......
HE WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE

riverroyal
01-12-2006, 01:46 PM
great job,thats just plain stupid right there.Its not like he just left it on the dresser,he never had it

HCS
01-12-2006, 01:48 PM
WRONG
he was 12500(B)(2) CVC. his motorcycle, YES MOTORCYCLE should be impounded for 30 days and his priviledge to operate any motor vehicle should be suspended, THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU....
And this was witnessed by his CHP escort......
HE WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE
Correct. The CHP let him ride the cycle.
Pie in the face.

Kilrtoy
01-12-2006, 01:48 PM
Oh by the way, DID i mention the fact he committed a MISDEMEANOR crime

YeLLowBoaT
01-12-2006, 01:54 PM
now what if it was on a private road? then the lic thing should not apply correct?

Hardly Satisfied
01-12-2006, 01:54 PM
Kilrtoy I bet that he didn't even get a ticket??? I guess that if that wood happen i any of us that we could fight that???

Kilrtoy
01-12-2006, 01:59 PM
Kilrtoy I bet that he didn't even get a ticket??? I guess that if that wood happen i any of us that we could fight that???
Now i was not there but he also left the scene of an acident...
i dont recall reading anyway that PRECLUDES the GOV from having to stop and exchange info and so on.....
AND IT WAS NOT ON A PRIVATE ROAD, but that can be a whole other discussion

Ziggy
01-12-2006, 02:31 PM
WRONG
he was 12500(B)(2) CVC. his motorcycle, YES MOTORCYCLE should be impounded for 30 days and his priviledge to operate any motor vehicle should be suspended, THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU....
And this was witnessed by his CHP escort......
HE WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE
I'm not watching the news anymore.......they can't get anything right. :crossx:
But I bet the part about him not being "Cited" for anything is probably true.

Seadog
01-12-2006, 04:29 PM
CHP told him the sidecar did not require a motorcycle endorsement. LAPD union cops decided to give him a ticket anyway. Just goes to show that the unions think they have more power than the law. And the accident was caused by someone backing out into him, so it wasn't his fault. Probably some stoner or old fart because how can you miss an escort like that. And does anyone really think that if he needed a endorsement, he would have to wait in line at DMV? Wait, this is Cali, home of the union dictators running government.

cola
01-12-2006, 06:10 PM
You don't need a licence when you have the CHP for body guards. :hammer2:
A good friend from town is assigned to Arnold, he is a Sergeant with the Highway Patrol. I need to ask him if he was working on Sunday. :)

cola
01-12-2006, 06:19 PM
body guards or looking to get a break in their budget
I think the State of California use the CHP for all state funded law enforcement. Ask Killer.
Late, Mike

Havasu1986
01-12-2006, 07:22 PM
CHP told him the sidecar did not require a motorcycle ent. LAPD union cops decided to give him a ticket anyway. Just goes to show that the unions think they have more power than the law. And the accident was caused by someone backing out into him, so it wasn't his fault. Probably some stoner or old fart because how can you miss an escort like that. And does anyone really think that if he needed a endorsement, he would have to wait in line at DMV? Wait, this is Cali, home of the union dictators running government.
What a idiot. 1st of all the CHP are in some sort of union. And I'm sure any cop doesn't consider him a union cop, but a cop that belongs to the union.

hoolign
01-12-2006, 07:27 PM
WRONG
he was 12500(B)(2) CVC. his motorcycle, YES MOTORCYCLE should be impounded for 30 days and his priviledge to operate any motor vehicle should be suspended, THAT IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU....
And this was witnessed by his CHP escort......
HE WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE
It's probably a good thing you dont type out you own traffic tickets on a computer! I can just imagine how many pages a ticket would be if they were typed in Bold size 7..when they irked you :D
YOU WERE DOING 47 IN A 25 YOU PRICK

Old Texan
01-12-2006, 07:52 PM
CHP told him the sidecar did not require a motorcycle endorsement. LAPD union cops decided to give him a ticket anyway. Just goes to show that the unions think they have more power than the law. And the accident was caused by someone backing out into him, so it wasn't his fault. Probably some stoner or old fart because how can you miss an escort like that. And does anyone really think that if he needed a endorsement, he would have to wait in line at DMV? Wait, this is Cali, home of the union dictators running government.
I heard he was backed into by a drunk old fat guy in a 60 something Oldsmobile leaving the liquor store. Car had been underwater for sometime near a bridge back east by the mud traces. CHP wanted nothing to do with this guy.
Coincidentally Maria had Uncle Teddy in town as a houseguest. Hmmmmm..... :rolleyes:

Moneypitt
01-12-2006, 09:26 PM
How would you like to be the commisioner (wanna be judge) assigned to hear this case. Remember the Gov appoints these commrs to judgeships.....MP

Kilrtoy
01-12-2006, 10:27 PM
CHP told him the sidecar did not require a motorcycle endorsement. LAPD union cops decided to give him a ticket anyway. Just goes to show that the unions think they have more power than the law. And the accident was caused by someone backing out into him, so it wasn't his fault. Probably some stoner or old fart because how can you miss an escort like that. And does anyone really think that if he needed a endorsement, he would have to wait in line at DMV? Wait, this is Cali, home of the union dictators running government.
SEADOG, you cant be serious, I usaually agree with you, but this time you are so far i would think you are posting from somewhere is South America.
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I already posted the section he vilolated and here it is again 12500(B)CVC.
and here is the section in the CVC that calls a MOTORCYCLE a MOTORCYCLE
400. (a) A "motorcycle" is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, and weighing less than 1,500 pounds.
(b) A motor vehicle that has four wheels in contact with the ground, two of which are a functional part of a sidecar, is a motorcycle if the vehicle otherwise comes within the definition of subdivision (a).
read for yourself, HE COMMITTED A MISDEMEANOR CRIME. END OF STORY :220v:

firebadge
01-12-2006, 10:30 PM
makes me think twice about trying to ever talk my way out of a ticket

maxwedge
01-13-2006, 12:43 AM
I got a ticket for no motorcycle liscence when I was 18YO (long time ago). Had to give the cop my speeding ticket from the day before for going 85 in a 55. Oopps. :crossx: No sympathy there! I had to go get my motorcycle endorsement and pay a big fine and 6mo court supervision, or it would have been automatic suspension of my liscence. But, even at 18, I knew damn well that I deserved that ticket, and also the one from the day before when I was actually going about 105 but the cop was nice (or didn't feel like messing with the paperwork to take me to jail). I think Arnold needs some punishment too! :mad:

clownpuncher
01-13-2006, 02:37 AM
I rode a motorcycle w/o the designated license... Sue me .... :D
I did that for about ten years, even got a ticket for racing (I think it was called a "speed expedition" back then). Never had a M/C license, but, that never came into play when I went to court. Them were the good 'ol days I guess. Stupid on my part, being all of 18 years old and shit for brains.

Seadog
01-13-2006, 06:40 AM
The fact still remains that CHP told him he did not need the endorsement. And do you seriously think that the governor of the state would not be given the benefit of the doubt, if he hadn't pissed off the unions. In most states, the highway patrol has jurisdiction over local police, not the other way around. Just like feds have jurisdiction over state and local. You have a state official, with a state provided bodyguard, in a traffic accident. What I have seen, is that Arnold was not at fault, he and his son were injured fairly severely and Barney Fife gives him the ticket. Most cops I know, would have looked at the situation and given him a warning to get the motorcycle endorsement within 30 days. I just feel that this is a political thing and has nothing to do with the facts.
My attitude about unions is going south faster than normal after hearing that the Democrats in Maryland passed a bill requiring Wal-Mart, and Wal-Mart only, to spend 8% or more of their income on health care for employees. And they are doing this to appease the unions who are busting a chop to unionize Wal-Mart. So no, I would not put any dirty trick past the unions.

Liberator TJ1984
01-13-2006, 06:53 AM
I did that for about ten years, even got a ticket for racing (I think it was called a "speed expedition" back then). Never had a M/C license, but, that never came into play when I went to court. Them were the good 'ol days I guess. Stupid on my part, being all of 18 years old and shit for brains.
Ya ! for some reason in my mid 40's, I have a Class A CDL with just about every endorsement possible........just never got the M/C :rolleyes:
but never been asked for it :p

Kilrtoy
01-13-2006, 10:28 PM
The fact still remains that CHP told him he did not need the endorsement.
BULLSHIT
And do you seriously think that the governor of the state would not be given the benefit of the doubt, if he hadn't pissed off the unions.
NOT BY ME
In most states, the highway patrol has jurisdiction over local police, not the other way around.
WRONG, only over freeway and unincorporated counties
Just like feds have jurisdiction over state and local. You have a state official, with a state provided bodyguard, in a traffic accident. What I have seen, is that Arnold was not at fault,
TRUE not at fault.
That is like being DRUNK and someone crashes into you and saying HEY ITS NOT MY FAULT, YOU CAN NOT ARREST ME FOR DRUNK DRIVING....
maybe if your weren't drunk you would have been able to avoid the accident, just like if you had a license you would know just ALITTLE better on how to ride, and maybe , and just maybe, THIS WOULD HAVE NOT HAPPENED.
he and his son were injured fairly severely and Barney Fife gives him the ticket.
WHO CARES about his son, HE DOES NOT.
Most cops I know, would have looked at the situation and given him a warning to get the motorcycle endorsement within 30 days. I just feel that this is a political thing and has nothing to do with the facts.
s.
NOT ME **** HIM
PRESS HARD 3 COPIES
BULLSHIT

Forkin' Crazy
01-13-2006, 10:38 PM
SEADOG, you cant be serious, I usaually agree with you, but this time you are so far i would think you are posting from somewhere is South America.
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I already posted the section he vilolated and here it is again 12500(B)CVC.
and here is the section in the CVC that calls a MOTORCYCLE a MOTORCYCLE
400. (a) A "motorcycle" is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, and weighing less than 1,500 pounds.
(b) A motor vehicle that has four wheels in contact with the ground, two of which are a functional part of a sidecar, is a motorcycle if the vehicle otherwise comes within the definition of subdivision (a).
read for yourself, HE COMMITTED A MISDEMEANOR CRIME. END OF STORY :220v:
So just give him a ticket (or what ever) and be DONE with it!!!
Geeze... making a big deal out of a traffic ticket!! Gov Edwards would make him look like a saint!!!
You don't have anything to complain about!!!! After all, he didn't pardon Tookie... or is that what you are really mad about????
LOL!!! :rolleyes:

Forkin' Crazy
01-13-2006, 10:40 PM
I heard he was backed into by a drunk old fat guy in a 60 something Oldsmobile leaving the liquor store. Car had been underwater for sometime near a bridge back east by the mud traces. CHP wanted nothing to do with this guy.
Coincidentally Maria had Uncle Teddy in town as a houseguest. Hmmmmm..... :rolleyes:
LMFAO!!!! Now that's funny!!!!! :rollside:

Forkin' Crazy
01-13-2006, 10:43 PM
And what if his rig weighed 1501#? Is that gross or net? :rolleyes:
Tell y'all what... I'll trade y'all Blanko for Arnold...
So how about it :boxed: .... bunch of complainers!!! :cry: :rolleyes:

HCS
01-13-2006, 10:45 PM
So just give him a ticket (or what ever) and be DONE with it!!!
Geeze... making a big deal out of a traffic ticket!! Gov Edwards would make him look like a saint!!!
You don't have anything to complain about!!!! After all, he didn't pardon Tookie... or is that what you are really mad about????
LOL!!! :rolleyes:
He must have a personal vendetta. Who gives a shit!
You know how many times I've driven my illegal dirt bike on the street?
Who gives a rats ass.
The other jerk is going to fry next week. :220v:

RiverToysJas
01-14-2006, 07:57 AM
According to the CNN article.... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/12/arnold.bike.ap/index.html)
Although Los Angeles police have concluded the governor was driving illegally, the state Department of Motor Vehicles and the California Highway Patrol maintain that because his motorcycle had a sidecar attached when he crashed, it was legal for Schwarzenegger to operate it with just the standard driver's license that he holds.
A standard license for driving a car cannot be used to operate a motorcycle, but according to DMV spokesman Mike Miller the relevant sections of state law make no mention of a motorcycle with a sidecar.
Miller said that means Schwarzenegger was operating within the law when he crashed.
"From our perspective, there is no violation," Miller said.
______________________
BTW......He was also in a motorcycle accident in 2001 w/o the sidecar. No charges then either.
He admits he's been riding for years w/o the motorcycle endorcement. But IMHO...it's not because he thinks he's above the law, it's because he doesn't care, and has the resources to handle any trouble that might arraise from it.
This whole thing falls into the 'SO WHAT?" catagory as far as I'm concerned.
RTJas :D

Old Texan
01-14-2006, 08:56 AM
According to the CNN article.... (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/12/arnold.bike.ap/index.html)
Although Los Angeles police have concluded the governor was driving illegally, the state Department of Motor Vehicles and the California Highway Patrol maintain that because his motorcycle had a sidecar attached when he crashed, it was legal for Schwarzenegger to operate it with just the standard driver's license that he holds.
A standard license for driving a car cannot be used to operate a motorcycle, but according to DMV spokesman Mike Miller the relevant sections of state law make no mention of a motorcycle with a sidecar.
Miller said that means Schwarzenegger was operating within the law when he crashed.
"From our perspective, there is no violation," Miller said.
______________________
BTW......He was also in a motorcycle accident in 2001 w/o the sidecar. No charges then either.
He admits he's been riding for years w/o the motorcycle endorcement. But IMHO...it's not because he thinks he's above the law, it's because he doesn't care, and has the resources to handle any trouble that might arraise from it.
This whole thing falls into the 'SO WHAT?" catagory as far as I'm concerned.
RTJas :D
I'll second the "So what", except he is the Gov and is expected to set an example of abiding by the law. From that aspect he has needlessly put himself in a sticky position.
Maybe it's a trait picked up from inlaws. Uncle Teddy had a suspended or expired drivers license at the time of his Chappaquiddick involuntary manslaughter coverup.

Forkin' Crazy
01-14-2006, 09:14 AM
I'll second the "So what", except he is the Gov and is expected to set an example of abiding by the law. From that aspect he has needlessly put himself in a sticky position.
Maybe it's a trait picked up from inlaws. Uncle Teddy had a suspended or expired drivers license at the time of his Chappaquiddick involuntary manslaughter coverup.
A cop once told me that he was the law and he couldn't break it.... LOL!!!! :crossx:
I wish that was the worst my Governors (past and present) had done....
I say again... What bunch of complaining whiners!!! :rolleyes: Find something worthy of complaining about!!!
I guess he needs to go get a MC endorsement just to shut them up. For what good they do.... another way of the state to collect funds.

wsuwrhr
01-14-2006, 10:16 AM
I have to agree, while I think it is silly not to have a MC1 and ride a motorcyle, doesn't matter.
I NEVER drive 55 on a highway in any vehicle, and I certainly never did it on a motorcycle.
minimum speeds on the highway are 80 in a car, and 90-100 on a motorcycle.
Will I get a ticket? Probably, eventually, but do I give a shit? Absolutely not.
Everyone wants to shit on a bench and act holy(er) than thou, but how many of us actually OBEY traffic speed laws?
Please.
Not me.
Who gives a shit?
Have you seen a motorcycle physical or written test? A monkey could pass it.
I am more concerned about an 80 year old behind the wheel, or some m-fuker driving a car who can't READ english.
You know the traffic signs are in ENGLISH right?
Brian
BTW......He was also in a motorcycle accident in 2001 w/o the sidecar. No charges then either.
He admits he's been riding for years w/o the motorcycle endorcement. But IMHO...it's not because he thinks he's above the law, it's because he doesn't care, and has the resources to handle any trouble that might arraise from it.
This whole thing falls into the 'SO WHAT?" catagory as far as I'm concerned.
RTJas :D

wsuwrhr
01-14-2006, 10:24 AM
I have posted this before in similar threads.
One time, about 10 years ago, at band camp, a 75 year old man hit the rear quarter of my dad's car as he passed through an intersection in Ontario. If he had hit my dad in the center, would have no doubt killed him. Spun the car around and into the grass, saving him from a possible roll. No serious injuries on either party.
My did asked him why he didn't stop at the red light.
"What red light"
Brian

slink
01-14-2006, 12:51 PM
You know the traffic signs are in ENGLISH right?
for now anyways.....who knows in 2 or 3 yrs :mad: :mad:

wsuwrhr
01-14-2006, 12:53 PM
You know the traffic signs are in ENGLISH right?
for now anyways.....who knows in 2 or 3 yrs :mad: :mad:
That is a whole 'nother thread.
I don't even want to think about that.
Brian

wsuwrhr
01-14-2006, 12:57 PM
I'll second the "So what", except he is the Gov and is expected to set an example of abiding by the law. From that aspect he has needlessly put himself in a sticky position.
Maybe it's a trait picked up from inlaws. Uncle Teddy had a suspended or expired drivers license at the time of his Chappaquiddick involuntary manslaughter coverup.
I agree, got to wonder.
If he was a private citizen noone would care, other than the tabloids and those who read them.
I think he wishes right now he had, guy has enough to worry about.
Brian

ULTRA28
01-17-2006, 05:20 PM
SEADOG, you cant be serious, I usaually agree with you, but this time you are so far i would think you are posting from somewhere is South America.
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I already posted the section he vilolated and here it is again 12500(B)CVC.
and here is the section in the CVC that calls a MOTORCYCLE a MOTORCYCLE
400. (a) A "motorcycle" is any motor vehicle having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, and weighing less than 1,500 pounds.
(b) A motor vehicle that has four wheels in contact with the ground, two of which are a functional part of a sidecar, is a motorcycle if the vehicle otherwise comes within the definition of subdivision (a).
read for yourself, HE COMMITTED A MISDEMEANOR CRIME. END OF STORY :220v:
As long as he had a Class C license he did not do anything illegal. You may operate a motorcycle with a sidecar attached, a three-wheel motorcycle, or a motorized scooter with only a Class C. You do NOT need an M1 or M2. So he did not break any laws.

riverroyal
01-17-2006, 05:23 PM
As long as he had a Class C license he did not do anything illegal. You may operate a motorcycle with a sidecar attached, a three-wheel motorcycle, or a motorized scooter with only a Class C. You do NOT need an M1 or M2. So he did not break any laws.
havent seen anything from ultra in awhile

ULTRA28
01-17-2006, 05:30 PM
havent seen anything from ultra in awhile
Been in Richmond VA, for the boat show. Also been busy getting things ready for LA.

riverroyal
01-17-2006, 06:00 PM
Been in Richmond VA, for the boat show. Also been busy getting things ready for LA.
I will be the guy with the beer in my hand :rolleyes:

ULTRA28
01-17-2006, 06:22 PM
I will be the guy with the beer in my hand :rolleyes:
THE guy :rolleyes: , make sure you stop by the booth and say hi.

riverroyal
01-17-2006, 06:26 PM
THE guy :rolleyes: , make sure you stop by the booth and say hi.
use my HB name,that wont sound gay,,ha.We will be there the 1st saturday.You should move your shop to carlsbad,I need a career change.Plus its 30 degrees cooler in the summer :rollside: