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RitcheyRch
08-21-2006, 09:03 AM
Just when you think you and your possessions are secure behind locked doors, some innovative person comes up with a simple, 10-second (or less) method to defeat a lock without any visible signs of forced entry!
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uv45y6vkcQ&search=bump%20key

Parker Dreamin
08-21-2006, 09:10 AM
wow.. i have never seen such a thing

core attitude
08-21-2006, 09:29 AM
That is some wicked shit right there. :crossx: The worst part is the info is so available to the scumbags who want to use it. :crossx:

socalmoney
08-21-2006, 09:42 AM
I have one of these to compliment my locks. As you can see, he is always hungry.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/7935security.jpg

RiverDave
08-21-2006, 09:45 AM
I have an extra key from an old office building that happens to fit in the lock here at my shop, but obviously won't unlock it.. I'll make one today and tell you how well it works..
Kinda spooky if you think about it.
RD

Cole Sanger
08-21-2006, 06:20 PM
I have one of these to compliment my locks. As you can see, he is always hungry.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/7935security.jpg
I have a different model, but still has the same effect...
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/643102-0275_IMG.JPG

Moneypitt
08-21-2006, 06:29 PM
It'll be a freezing day in hell before those guys, or anyone else, will do that to a GM ignition lock.............MP

Red Horse
08-21-2006, 06:56 PM
I will have to wait till I get home to look at the vid, however there are some locks out there that CANNOT be picked. Some are magnetic, some are dimpled etc. Also, if you build the core real tight, you can use a pick and look like you did it in the movies. To pick a 7 pin lock (real common) you have to have all 7 pins at the right height and hold them there while turning. It aint easy. Can get into a safe quicker sometimes! More on this after I see the vid. :cool: By the way, part of my job entails locksmithing. :cool:

C-2
08-21-2006, 09:32 PM
I wonder what the agenda of the video producer is? They gotta be selling something.
I would imagine with two keysets (Schlage and Kwikset), you would be in business at most locations. I am set for a security/locksmith seminar in a couple of weeks.....I see the "tool" is already on the agenda.
Then again, maybe I'll just pick up a universal remote from Target. Up down up down up down......you can really fawk with your neighbors head!

rerfert
08-21-2006, 10:21 PM
It'll be a freezing day in hell before those guys, or anyone else, will do that to a GM ignition lock.............MP
We have a family friend that has sold older cars on payments for 30 years and always makes a second set of keys on all cars that are sold on payments...when the car gets paid off the keys go into folgers coffee cans (hundreds of different keyed keys) he is always getting cars in with no keys from auctions and if it is a ford,chevy,pontiac,dodge,what ever?? When we were younger and helping out at the car lot we would go to that folgers can.
Never ever EVER have I not found a key that will fit another car.
But this new one I will have to put to the test.

Fire Angler
08-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Here is the "how to" on ebay.
bump key (http://cgi.ebay.com/HOW-TO-BUMP-KEY-LOCKSMITH-VIDEO-CD-lock-picking-999-V3_W0QQitemZ270020500525QQihZ017QQcategoryZ47103QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Red Horse
08-21-2006, 11:03 PM
I am very skeptical abou this. I am looking at my Lockmasters catalog and there are 15 pages of lock pick sets and items. Plus tubular is different set up.
Cant do it with just one!

C-2
08-21-2006, 11:04 PM
This kind of reminds me of the MIRT craze.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling

C-2
08-21-2006, 11:08 PM
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beerjet
08-22-2006, 12:05 AM
This is definately something I need for work.

Red Horse
08-22-2006, 04:16 AM
Ok, I watched the vid. It could happen if the pins in the cylinder are set fairly loose. Meaning the pins dont cover the complete distance from top of cylinder to top of key cut and the springs are left out. A good spring in there and you are out of luck. TO work you would have to bump all 7 pins up to the exact location at the same time and turn. Sometimes when you have the correct key in an old lock taping the key with a hammer helps a little, but that is because you have the key.
I aint buyin it.

Hardly Satisfied
08-22-2006, 05:53 AM
Crazy

HocusPocus
08-22-2006, 05:55 AM
do a google search on bump keys.. seems they have been around a long time. they also say the more expensive the lock the better bump keys work. my wife has as key machine at her work.. think im gonna play around and see if i can get my front door opened with one.

Chipster27
08-22-2006, 06:15 AM
Never ever EVER have I not found a key that will fit another car.
I have a Benz and a BMW that I'm more than willing to let you try any key on.
One of them doesn't even use a conventional key.

rerfert
08-22-2006, 06:46 AM
I think he was referring to older American cars. You know, when GM used 16 different keys.
Yup just the $500 specials from the auction and that was a few years back already.
No newer fancy BMWs and such.

don johnson
08-22-2006, 07:00 AM
I am an executive for Ingersoll Rand whom owns Schlage Lock and I can tell you that we are well aware of this process in defeating lock cylinders. The process has been around for years. One thing to keep in mind, all locks are defeatable. For those that are concerened we offer high security cylinders that include a "side bar" feature which are VERY difficult to defeat. These high security cylinders are readily available at locksmiths and soon at Home Depot and Lowes through special order.

centerhill condor
08-22-2006, 07:06 AM
HK sales are up! S&W soon to follow.