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poncho-pwr
08-31-2006, 10:07 PM
It is about time for me to get another set of tires for the hunting wagon and I am thinking about trying something different this time. The vehicle that the tires will be going on is a completely rebuilt 79' Chevy Blazer 5" total lift. 4" BDS springs on front and ORD rear shackle flip on the back with ORD 1" body lift. High Cross-over steering system, Rancho RS9000 shocks, Dana 60 front end with 35 spline stub kit and ARB air locker, 14 bolt shaved housing rear end with Detroit locker, both geared with 4.88s. Driveline is 509c.i. Dart aluminum heads, 9:5.1 comp, hydraulic roller, 544HP, 4L80E tranny, NP 205 LoMax 3:1 transfer case. This truck was built to use and abuse and is our hunting truck. We are not rock crawlers or mud boggers but we go through stuff every bit as tough as the guys on TV do and sometimes worse. In my area that means that we go through a lot of really rocky creek beds and gulleys as well as a LOT of sticky clay packed mud and soupy mud after rains. The other thing is that we drive it on paved roads quite a bit too traveling as far as 120mi one way to one of our leases. I gave up trying to run all-terrain type tires a long time ago because they just won't handle the mud, so I am going to have to stick with Mud terrain type tires. I have been running the BFG mud-terrains 35X12.50rX16.5 and they work pretty well all though we have cut a couple of side walls. We have to drive this thing on wet paved roads a lot and it is not fun at 70-80mph in the rain with the big mud terrains. To help remedy that situation several people have recommended that I just have my next set of BFG mud terrains siped by someone who knows what they are doing and that will drastically help the wet paved road performance. I have been thinking about this and while pondering I came across these http://www.intercotire.com/site35.php the interco TrXus MT and they look like they might be the ticket. What do you guys think? Any advice on tire selection or your experiences with different tires would be great.

Cheap Thrills
08-31-2006, 10:12 PM
here (http://www.mattracks.com/) :D
C.T. :wink:

Outnumbered
08-31-2006, 10:16 PM
The BFG muds are pretty good tires. I don't think I would sipe them though. I used to run siped ATs in the snow/ice and they kick ass but they tend to come apart in chunks in the rocks. I think you would tear them up. My vote would be to keep the BFG Muds.

W.O.T
08-31-2006, 10:24 PM
goodyear mtrs are sweet but kinda pricey. i think the bfg muds are pretty good they do give a lousy ride when the tread wears down though noisy and rough. i had them on my last truck. if its just a hunting thing i would save a little money and go for some general mts. the general ats and mtrs are pretty good for the $

Ivan Dan
08-31-2006, 10:25 PM
It is about time for me to get another set of tires for the hunting wagon and I am thinking about trying something different this time. The vehicle that the tires will be going on is a completely rebuilt 79' Chevy Blazer 5" total lift. 4" BDS springs on front and ORD rear shackle flip on the back with ORD 1" body lift. High Cross-over steering system, Rancho RS9000 shocks, Dana 60 front end with 35 spline stub kit and ARB air locker, 14 bolt shaved housing rear end with Detroit locker, both geared with 4.88s. Driveline is 509c.i. Dart aluminum heads, 9:5.1 comp, hydraulic roller, 544HP, 4L80E tranny, NP 205 LoMax 3:1 transfer case. This truck was built to use and abuse and is our hunting truck. We are not rock crawlers or mud boggers but we go through stuff every bit as tough as the guys on TV do and sometimes worse. In my area that means that we go through a lot of really rocky creek beds and gulleys as well as a LOT of sticky clay packed mud and soupy mud after rains. The other thing is that we drive it on paved roads quite a bit too traveling as far as 120mi one way to one of our leases. I gave up trying to run all-terrain type tires a long time ago because they just won't handle the mud, so I am going to have to stick with Mud terrain type tires. I have been running the BFG mud-terrains 35X12.50rX16.5 and they work pretty well all though we have cut a couple of side walls. We have to drive this thing on wet paved roads a lot and it is not fun at 70-80mph in the rain with the big mud terrains. To help remedy that situation several people have recommended that I just have my next set of BFG mud terrains siped by someone who knows what they are doing and that will drastically help the wet paved road performance. I have been thinking about this and while pondering I came across these http://www.intercotire.com/site35.php the interco TrXus MT and they look like they might be the ticket. What do you guys think? Any advice on tire selection or your experiences with different tires would be great.
I have raced in (3) Baja 1000's, (1) Primm 300, (3) Baja 500's, and (2) San Felipe 250's and I've only had 1 flat on BFG tires. I'm talking some of the nastiest terrain known to man.
I wouldn't run ANY other tire unless there was a big paycheck behind it.
See if you can get your hands on some BFG Baja Projects (the real ones) they have a much tougher sidewall. If not then this might be your next best option BFG Krawlers (http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/overview/krawler-t-a-kx/1718.html)

DMOORE
08-31-2006, 10:27 PM
Go to tirerack.com Lots of very good info on that site. Including owner tire surveys. I ended going to the Goodyear MTR's a few years ago. They work awsome off-road and get much better milage than BFG's. A lot of the serious off'roads are running them now. Definatly worth a look.
Darrell.

twowheeledfish
08-31-2006, 10:30 PM
One more vote for the goodyear mtr here...

MudPumper
08-31-2006, 10:46 PM
I've always been a big fan of the BFG's but you might want to look at the Nitto tires. I've read a lot of reviews and they always seem to come out on top for varying types of terrain. The Terra Grappler is a great all around tire for street, sand, mud, rocks. If you want a more aggressive tire they also have the Mudd Grappler.
Nitto (http://www.nittotire.com/)

W.O.T
08-31-2006, 10:53 PM
projects are sweet and pricey i wouldnt want them for mud bogging. the tread isnt too aggressive. i wouldnt recommend them for 4x applications.

Ivan Dan
08-31-2006, 11:15 PM
projects are sweet and pricey i wouldnt want them for mud bogging. the tread isnt too aggressive. i wouldnt recommend them for 4x applications.
I actually meant the older style Baja T/A's that are not DOT approved but they look more like a BFG mud terrain. They would be the ideal tire for his situation. The new style Baja's (otherwise known as projects) you are correct. They tend to pack up and aren't real good in the mud.

HocusPocus
09-01-2006, 05:53 AM
i use to run BFG all the time, had several trucks with the all terrain and a couple with the mud tires. i love the mud tires but if you a lot of highway driving they will wear quicker and make more noise but a great tire choice. i have goodyear at's on my truck now because thats what they came with, but im going to give the mtr's a shot next.

HavasuSelect
09-01-2006, 06:01 AM
I had the BFG's mudders on my truck. They were real noisy and the ride on-road was really rough. I have the goodyear mtr's now and it feels like I'm riding in a Cadillac. Plus they are super quiet. You can find good deals on ebay sometimes. I wouldn't go to 4 wheel parts. They tend to be on the pricey side. I got the 305/70/17 for $220 a tire from the distributor who supplies 4 wheel parts. When I looked on 4 wheel parts website they were asking $300 a tire.

sigepmock
09-01-2006, 06:13 AM
I was always a BFG MT fan until I tried the Toyo Open Country MT's. Best all around tire I've ever used. Pretty Quiet on the highway, not to slippery on wet pavement (definately better than the BFG's) and they work great in sand, rocks , and mud. I'm running a 35/12.5R18 on my heavy 2500HD DMax and they are wearing very well. They balance great and I've had no out of round issues.
I also like the Nitto Mud Grapples, they are a very agressive tire with lots of side wall lugs to help pull you along. My buddy is running them on his Whipple supercharged 2500HD. He liked them. They are a little noisy on highway but no where near as noisy as say a Swamper.
I'd stay away from the InterCo stuff accect for a fully offroad vehicle. The quailty of those tires is subject and they have a lot of out of round issues. Granted they are good at what they are made for...extreme off road and mudding but not for the street. My buddy with the Nitto's just made the switch away from tires made by Interco.
My $.02,
Chris

FryJet
09-01-2006, 06:33 AM
First thing you need to do is get rid of the 16.5 wheel as they dont have a bead retainer built in to them unlike EVERY other wheel size on the planet. Put a set of 16's or 17's on it and then you can air down with no worry. I still think the BFG M/T has the best sidewall for a multi duty tire you can buy. My buddy had his on his rig for 6 years and I would be willing to bet he put his through as much if not more stuff then you. He never had a big problem aside from one sidewall puncture in the first year and we just stuffed som plugs in it and called it good. He ran it like that for the rest of its life and never had another prob. I would say stay BFG but change wheel size.
Here is a picture of what we run, this is Las Cruces.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/1909Scan10101.JPG
F.J.

BadKachina
09-01-2006, 07:10 AM
You're looking for an aggressive mud tire that you can run 70 mph in the rain and not sacrifice handling? :rolleyes:
I've run BFG's, Swampers, Truxxus, PJ's, and Kumho's. I'm going to say that if you really want a good off-road tire with strong sidewalls go with Swampers, either the SSR with siping ssr (http://www.intercotire.com/site34.php) or the Truxxus that you like. The last two sets of tires I ran were Truxxus sts and I never noticed any hydroplaining or loss of traction in rain. They aren't as aggressive as the mt though. One set I had was 38x15.5 radial and the next set was 39.5x15.5 bias ply. The only difference I noticed between the two were that if you on highway and there were ruts the bias ply seemed to track more into the ruts.
If you haven't looked at the PJ's they have up to 10 plys and a real aggressive tread pattern. I noticed that they were very quiet when I had them and needed almost no weight the first time they were balanced. They seemed to be really nice tires and I wouldn't have a problem running them again. pj's (http://dirtgriptires.com/Sizes%20and%20Specifications.htm)
The latest set I've bought is the new Kumho Roadventure m/t in a 38x15.5 20r. They are super quiet with a pretty aggressive tread. I've yet to have them off road and see what they are made of. kumho (http://www.kumhotire.com/int/Tires/SUVDetail.jsp)
Still with all the choices for tires I would have say the Swampers are going to be better mud and off road tires, but they are soft and don't last very long. They BFG's are going to better all around tire. The best part about off road trucks with big tires is that you get to try out a new set every 10k miles or so.......

OldYeller
09-01-2006, 07:20 AM
We have run BFG on hte desert race truck for years, some flats, but alll-in-all good tire. For the last 2 years we have been runing Maxxis. Not one flat. in fact, the tires look pretty good after every race. You may want to look into Maxxis.

ultra27jay
09-01-2006, 07:39 AM
i have been working in the off road ind. for the past 12 years and hands down the goodyear MTR is by far the best tire for what u are useing it for.
Wrangler MT/R
Rugged Off-Road Traction Tire For The Serious Enthusiast Featuring Durawallb" Puncture-Resistance Technology
For truck owners that need superb off-road traction and toughness.
FEATURES BENEFITS
DurawallTM technology Increased toughness and strength
Three-ply sidewall construction and advanced silica compound Helps resist punctures, cuts and tears in the sidewall area
Durawall Rubber Compound Enhances traction in mud, sand, rocks, snow, and dirt, and offers a rugged appearance
Aggressive tread pattern
Tire Size Load Range Service Description Sidewall Approved Rim Width Meas. Rim Width Section Width Outside Diameter Max Load
LT245/75R16 E 120P BSL 6.5 - 8.0 7.00 9.8 30.7 3,042 @ 80
LT275/70R17 C 114P OWL 7.0 - 8.5 8.00 11.0 32.4 2,600 @ 50
LT245/75R16 E 120P OWL 6.5 - 8.0 7.00 9.8 30.7 3,042 @ 80
LT315/75R16 D 121P OWL 8.0 - 10.0 8.50 12.3 34.8 3,195 @ 50
LT235/75R15 C OWL 6.0 - 7.0 6.50 9.3 29.1 1,985 @ 50
LT285/70R17 D 121P OWL 7.5 - 9.0 8.50 11.5 33.0 3,195 @ 65
37X12.50R17LT E 129P BSL 8.5 - 11.0 10.00 12.5 36.8 3,195 @ 65
LT265/75R16 D 119P OWL 7.0 - 8.0 7.50 10.5 31.9 3,000 @ 65
LT285/75R16 D 122P OWL 7.5 - 9.0 8.00 11.3 33.1 3,305 @ 65
LT265/70R17 C 112P OWL 7.0 - 8.5 8.00 10.7 31.9 2,470 @ 50
35X12.50R15LT C 113P BSL 8.5 - 11.0 10.00 12.5 34.8 2,535 @ 35
LT305/70R16 D 118P OWL 8.0 - 9.5 9.00 12.2 33.1 2,910 @ 50
37X12.50R15LT C BSL 8.5 - 11.0 10.00 12.5 36.8 2,910 @ 35
40X13.50R17LT C 121P BSL 8.5 - 11.0 11.00 13.5 39.8 3,195 @ 35
LT235/85R16 E 116P OWL 6.0 - 7.0 6.50 9.3 32.0 3,042 @ 80
30X9.50R15LT C 104Q OWL 6.5 - 8.5 7.50 9.5 29.8 1,985 @ 50
31X10.50R15LT C 109Q OWL 7.0 - 9.0 8.50 10.5 30.8 2,270 @ 50
33X12.50R15LT C 108Q OWL 8.5 - 11.0 10.00 12.5 32.8 2,205 @ 35
35X12.50R15LT C 113Q OWL 8.5 - 11.0 10.00 12.5 34.8 2,535 @ 35
LT255/70R16 C 108P OWL 6.5 - 8.0 7.50 10.2 30.3 2,205 @ 50
LT305/70R17 D 119P OWL 8.0 - 9.5 9.00 12.2 34.1 3,000 @ 50
LT225/75R16 D 110P OWL 6.0 - 7.0 6.00 8.8 29.5 2,335 @ 65
32X11.50R15LT C 113Q OWL 8.0 - 10.0 9.00 11.4 31.5 2,535 @ 50

Wicky
09-01-2006, 07:41 AM
Yokohama has won in Baja many many times too.
Just not so much in the Trophy Trucks Class.
They make a killer MT too!! I run the ATs though.
They don't "shed" or "chunk" like the BFG ATs.
Wicky

poncho-pwr
09-01-2006, 08:54 AM
Thanks guys, keep it comming.

OliverM5
09-01-2006, 09:04 AM
I have a used (60% tread left) of Nitto Mud Grapplers 35x12.50/18 in great condition, used on the street only, for CHEAP. Email me if interested: oliverm5@aol.com

Mr. Naudio
09-01-2006, 10:17 AM
pit bull tires (pitbulltires.com)