Muslims are the problem!

[Big Warlock]

GATORADE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!
Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism, Muslims do...
So why can't I take my toothpaste on the plane? How is it that Gatorade is
forbidden? Why can't I have a bottle of water?
Because we aren't really fighting a war with terror, we are losing a
struggle with political correctness. It is not so much the evil of
outsiders, it is the cowardice of politically correct Americans and
politically correct American politicians.
The cowardice that won't let us call a spade a spade, the makes us all live
in an alternate reality, that puts survival secondary to servility. We are
fighting World War III with one arm tied behind our back.
Last week was a good example.
A group of two or three dozen Muslims in England and Pakistan plotted to
blow up 10 or 12 passenger-laden airliners in transatlantic flight. The
purpose was to celebrate and reprise the attacks of September 11. The means
was the detonation of explosive liquids disguised as common liquids - like
Gatorade or shampoo.
The plot was discovered, followed and - hopefully - foiled by British
intelligence with an assist from Americans and Pakistanis. Immediately, new
restrictions were put on airline passengers. Because the plotters planned
to use liquids, passengers were forbidden to bring liquids onto airplanes.
Not medicines, not creams, not drinks, not nothing. Untold hundreds of
thousands of airline passengers immediately and indefinitely lost the right
to carry liquids or pastes on themselves or in their carry-on luggage.
Which is stupid.
Because Gatorade's not the problem, Muslims are the problem.
Can we be honest enough to just admit that for a minute? The plotters
uncovered in England were all Muslims. They all had Muslim names. They all
but one or two were of Pakistani descent. They were motivated by religious
bigotry. They wanted to kill because they were Muslim and they wanted to
kill the people they wanted to kill because they weren't Muslim.
Yet political correctness forbids us from mentioning that, much less acting
upon it.
In fact, on the ABC network news over the weekend, the plotters were called
"British Extremists" - as if somehow the fact they were in Great Britain
was defining of their extremism. The fact is they were Muslim extremists,
but the American media is so in bed with the diversity-training crowd that
fact can't be mentioned.
Also on American newscasts over the weekend, the story was told of three
men buying thousands of disposable and untraceable cell phones, an activity
with possible terrorist linkages. Not surprisingly, very few accounts noted
that the men were Muslims with Muslim names.
Political correctness has sanitized this fight to such an extent that we
are not allowed to even identify the enemy.
Which is not toothpaste, it is Islam.
Islam is practiced by tens of millions of people around the world and which
repeatedly and consistently puts armies and cells of terrorists in action
around the world. No doubt there are peace-loving Muslims, it's just that
they have an amazing capacity for keeping a low profile - or demanding that
people respect their religion.
Our desire not to offend Muslims and their culture stands great potential
to cost American lives. Countless American lives.
Here's what I mean.
Let's lay aside political correctness for a moment and use scientific
analysis. Let's use reason and logic for just a minute.
For example: How many terrorist acts have been committed involving liquids
carried onto airplanes by passengers?
Answer: Zero.
Second question: How many terrorist acts involving airliners have been
committed by Muslims?
Answer: All of them.
Third question: Why are we focused on liquids instead of Muslims?
Answer: Beats me.
Why is it that the protection of our airline industry is focused on
products, not people? Why is it that we go to such extreme lengths to
screen materials, but purposely avoid screening the people who carry them?
Wouldn't we be safer if we focused our security efforts largely on Muslim
passengers? Especially young, male Muslim passengers? Isn't the fact that
every single act of airliner terrorism involved a young, male Muslim
relevant?
Does it make sense to take away a mother's bottle of Children's Tylenol and
a grandmother's bottle of Coke while at the same time purposely not
profiling likely terrorists?
Can't we be honest enough to admit that profiling potential terrorists by
religion, national origin, gender and age is a good idea? Aren't we bright
enough to understand that asking a few extra questions of a young Muslim
airline passenger is not the same as pulling over a black man just because
he's driving in a "white" neighborhood?
A group of people was arrested last week for plotting a terrorist attack.
They were young Muslim men. Just like the group before that and the group
before that and the group before that. And the group before that.
So, naturally, you can't take Chapstick on an airplane.
Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.
Muslims do.
Maybe if the government spent less time looking at your carry-on bag and
more time looking at young male Muslim passengers we'd all be a lot safer
and a lot less inconvenienced.
This isn't about Gatorade, this is about jihad. It's time to stop focusing
on products and start focusing on people. People who happen to be Muslim.

[seanv]

durka durka? baka durka jihad abdul?
j/k hi rob :D welcome to the p.c. pussified united states. :mad:

[Dribble]

There you go using the "M" word again. Your going to piss off alot of people like that.

[NICE PAIR]

GATORADE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!
Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism, Muslims do...
So why can't I take my toothpaste on the plane? How is it that Gatorade is
forbidden? Why can't I have a bottle of water?
Because we aren't really fighting a war with terror, we are losing a
struggle with political correctness. It is not so much the evil of
outsiders, it is the cowardice of politically correct Americans and
politically correct American politicians.
The cowardice that won't let us call a spade a spade, the makes us all live
in an alternate reality, that puts survival secondary to servility. We are
fighting World War III with one arm tied behind our back.
Last week was a good example.
A group of two or three dozen Muslims in England and Pakistan plotted to
blow up 10 or 12 passenger-laden airliners in transatlantic flight. The
purpose was to celebrate and reprise the attacks of September 11. The means
was the detonation of explosive liquids disguised as common liquids - like
Gatorade or shampoo.
The plot was discovered, followed and - hopefully - foiled by British
intelligence with an assist from Americans and Pakistanis. Immediately, new
restrictions were put on airline passengers. Because the plotters planned
to use liquids, passengers were forbidden to bring liquids onto airplanes.
Not medicines, not creams, not drinks, not nothing. Untold hundreds of
thousands of airline passengers immediately and indefinitely lost the right
to carry liquids or pastes on themselves or in their carry-on luggage.
Which is stupid.
Because Gatorade's not the problem, Muslims are the problem.
Can we be honest enough to just admit that for a minute? The plotters
uncovered in England were all Muslims. They all had Muslim names. They all
but one or two were of Pakistani descent. They were motivated by religious
bigotry. They wanted to kill because they were Muslim and they wanted to
kill the people they wanted to kill because they weren't Muslim.
Yet political correctness forbids us from mentioning that, much less acting
upon it.
In fact, on the ABC network news over the weekend, the plotters were called
"British Extremists" - as if somehow the fact they were in Great Britain
was defining of their extremism. The fact is they were Muslim extremists,
but the American media is so in bed with the diversity-training crowd that
fact can't be mentioned.
Also on American newscasts over the weekend, the story was told of three
men buying thousands of disposable and untraceable cell phones, an activity
with possible terrorist linkages. Not surprisingly, very few accounts noted
that the men were Muslims with Muslim names.
Political correctness has sanitized this fight to such an extent that we
are not allowed to even identify the enemy.
Which is not toothpaste, it is Islam.
Islam is practiced by tens of millions of people around the world and which
repeatedly and consistently puts armies and cells of terrorists in action
around the world. No doubt there are peace-loving Muslims, it's just that
they have an amazing capacity for keeping a low profile - or demanding that
people respect their religion.
Our desire not to offend Muslims and their culture stands great potential
to cost American lives. Countless American lives.
Here's what I mean.
Let's lay aside political correctness for a moment and use scientific
analysis. Let's use reason and logic for just a minute.
For example: How many terrorist acts have been committed involving liquids
carried onto airplanes by passengers?
Answer: Zero.
Second question: How many terrorist acts involving airliners have been
committed by Muslims?
Answer: All of them.
Third question: Why are we focused on liquids instead of Muslims?
Answer: Beats me.
Why is it that the protection of our airline industry is focused on
products, not people? Why is it that we go to such extreme lengths to
screen materials, but purposely avoid screening the people who carry them?
Wouldn't we be safer if we focused our security efforts largely on Muslim
passengers? Especially young, male Muslim passengers? Isn't the fact that
every single act of airliner terrorism involved a young, male Muslim
relevant?
Does it make sense to take away a mother's bottle of Children's Tylenol and
a grandmother's bottle of Coke while at the same time purposely not
profiling likely terrorists?
Can't we be honest enough to admit that profiling potential terrorists by
religion, national origin, gender and age is a good idea? Aren't we bright
enough to understand that asking a few extra questions of a young Muslim
airline passenger is not the same as pulling over a black man just because
he's driving in a "white" neighborhood?
A group of people was arrested last week for plotting a terrorist attack.
They were young Muslim men. Just like the group before that and the group
before that and the group before that. And the group before that.
So, naturally, you can't take Chapstick on an airplane.
Toiletries don't commit acts of terrorism.
Muslims do.
Maybe if the government spent less time looking at your carry-on bag and
more time looking at young male Muslim passengers we'd all be a lot safer
and a lot less inconvenienced.
This isn't about Gatorade, this is about jihad. It's time to stop focusing
on products and start focusing on people. People who happen to be Muslim.
"RIGHT F_ _ KING ON"

[QuickJet]

How would you go about separating the "good" muslums from the bad? Would you just say that anyone that looks Middle Eastern can't fly or would you just prohibit those that have Middle Eastern type names from flying?

[lilrick]

I agree!!!

[centerhill condor]

How would you go about separating the "good" muslums from the bad?
that's a rhetorical question, right?

[XFactor]

Great post. I agree 99%. Where does my 1% fall?? How do you then stop someone of the likes of Timothy McVeigh? :confused:

[QuickJet]

that's a rhetorical question, right?
No really, wondering. I ask because I have a brother in law who was born in Jordan. He looks like a terrorist (no facial hair though). Aside from his last name he would fit the criteria of never being able to fly again. He is by all means American. He's lived in America since the age of 12. Just wondering how to filter out the bad while at the same time keeping the good.

[Cole Trickle]

No really, wondering. I ask because I have a brother in law who was born in Jordan. He looks like a terrorist (no facial hair though). Aside from his last name he would fit the criteria of never being able to fly again. He is by all means American. He's lived in America since the age of 12. Just wondering how to filter out the bad while at the same time keeping the good.
He won't be able to bring toothpaste and gatorade on planes:D;)

[Baja Big Dog]

Hey big...to quote the famous soup nazi from Sienfield
NO SLURPEE FOR YOU!!!!

[Mark Sims]

By definition a good muslim will kill anyone and everyone who is not a muslim. When they have killed all non-believers then they go after the muslims that dont think their radical way. Only one way to be sure which is which. If they are muslim, they are terriorists. period. I hate them all.

[SHOTKALLIN]

I blame these issues on the good Muslims. Yes the good ones. They are the ones to blame because they fail to point out the whack job jihadists to the authorities. They know who the jihadist clerics are. They know which members of there temple are most likely to be jihadist. Do they turn these people in? Hell NO!!! They all claim not to be jihadist supporters. But how many of they are Jihad sympathists? I think that the numbers of sypathisers is high.
After 9-11 I asked middle easterners around town what they thought of the 9-11 attacks. No one said it was horrible. They made statements like "The U.S. should change thier foriegn policy", or "I don't agree with it but I understand it".
IMHO I think they should send all of them who are not citizens home. Period.
Offer no mmore work or student visas to them. When they expire they dont leave anyway.
Suspend all Muslim visas and such untill the American Muslim community Steps the Fock Up and cleans up thier own house. Trust me the sympathy rate is high. I would say around 80%.

[Devil's Advocate]

It would be nice to just have our good ole American US of A back.

[QuickJet]

Gee, I guess I've never been fortunate to meet a "good" muslum. Were the 'black muslums' of the 60's or 70's good muslums? I don't think so!.
He's NOT Muslum!! He looks the part and that's where the problem lyes. How, while at an airport, do you pick apart a good Muslum, a bad Muslum and then the guy who looks Muslum but isn't :rolleyes:

[QuickJet]

What I was getting at Quickjet is just kill every stinken one of them and let the good lord sort um out. I won't miss um.
Rio
I understand your frustration and anger.

[KreatinKaos]

Gee, I guess I've never been fortunate to meet a "good" muslum. Were the 'black muslums' of the 60's or 70's good muslums? I don't think so!
This country is so f*cked up in it's p/c thinking it doesn't make a lot of sense.
So we've had a few shootings and we go and outlaw all of the assault weapons to stop this sort of thing. 10 years later they find it didn't make sh*t-for-difference and drop the law. (except this pos state). So we have a few accidents cuz a few brain-dead clowns have a cell phone up to their ear when driving. Now we will have a cell phone law to contend with.
So we have a problem with a few rag-heads but we can't profile, sortout, look closely at, or anything else that might be construed as discriminatory to protect our selves. In each case a small minority of the entire population causes the problem and we all pay for it, except this PROBLEM.
What's the difference? Personally, I don't give a rats-ass about the "feelings" of some fricken muslum as they have brought this upon themselves. I'm sick and tired of a few small groups of dirtbags that can't control themselves infringing upon my freedoms and liberties.
Discrimination is fine by me. Isolate the ones causing the problems and f*ck THEIR rights. Why should I lose my rights cuz of their actions and behavior?
Let's see what else is affecting us all cuz of the actions of a few.
Asians-> eating dogs for dinner. Ya wanna eat dog then go back the f*ck where you came from. NOT HERE.
Mexicans-> ya wanna shoot guns in the air on holidays, then outlaw Mexicans having guns.
Ragheads really enjoy blowing things up. Then outlaw ragheads.
After giving this considerable thought I've come to the conclusion that any raghead muslum found in the country 30 days from now is 'fair game' and can be hunted and killed on sight. (with the proper hunting license and 'raghead tag').
Rio-> stopped giving a damn about YOUR RIGHTS when your freedoms started costing me my rights.
When does the season start ? :crossx:

[Misogynist]

I say... " If they have hair On their knuckles.... CAVITY SEARCH! "..... :)

[jbone]

Gee, I guess I've never been fortunate to meet a "good" muslum. Were the 'black muslums' of the 60's or 70's good muslums? I don't think so!
This country is so f*cked up in it's p/c thinking it doesn't make a lot of sense.
So we've had a few shootings and we go and outlaw all of the assault weapons to stop this sort of thing. 10 years later they find it didn't make sh*t-for-difference and drop the law. (except this pos state). So we have a few accidents cuz a few brain-dead clowns have a cell phone up to their ear when driving. Now we will have a cell phone law to contend with.
So we have a problem with a few rag-heads but we can't profile, sortout, look closely at, or anything else that might be construed as discriminatory to protect our selves. In each case a small minority of the entire population causes the problem and we all pay for it, except this PROBLEM.
What's the difference? Personally, I don't give a rats-ass about the "feelings" of some fricken muslum as they have brought this upon themselves. I'm sick and tired of a few small groups of dirtbags that can't control themselves infringing upon my freedoms and liberties.
Discrimination is fine by me. Isolate the ones causing the problems and f*ck THEIR rights. Why should I lose my rights cuz of their actions and behavior?
Let's see what else is affecting us all cuz of the actions of a few.
Asians-> eating dogs for dinner. Ya wanna eat dog then go back the f*ck where you came from. NOT HERE.
Mexicans-> ya wanna shoot guns in the air on holidays, then outlaw Mexicans having guns.
Ragheads really enjoy blowing things up. Then outlaw ragheads.
After giving this considerable thought I've come to the conclusion that any raghead muslum found in the country 30 days from now is 'fair game' and can be hunted and killed on sight. (with the proper hunting license and 'raghead tag').
Rio-> stopped giving a damn about YOUR RIGHTS when your freedoms started costing me my rights.
I agree with most of your ideas. The "fair game" and "raghead tag" comment is over the edge though.
We do need to grow a pair of balls and scrutinize everyone that fits the profile of a terrorist. We could learn a thing or two from El Al, an Israeli Airline.
Read this:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/09/26/rec.el.al.security/

[axkiker]

Anyone remember the movie with Bruce Willis where he is a general who declares martial law due to terrorisim. I cant remember the name of the movie. If we have another major terrorist attack I dont think what happened in that movie will be all that far from the truth. So if we were to start profiling certain types of individuals they need to STFU and realize you do what you have to do in order to protect your brothers and sisters.
Hey one more thing that has not been mentioned. Anyone thought about how the terrorist got in the country. WE LET THEM. Lets also get a hold on the illegial immigration. We are in 2 wars at the moment. The middle east and one right here at home.

[Big Warlock]

How would you go about separating the "good" muslums from the bad? Would you just say that anyone that looks Middle Eastern can't fly or would you just prohibit those that have Middle Eastern type names from flying?
Simple: INstead of dragging grandma out of the security line for a strip search, we only pick out MUSLIMS. (Typically males between the ages of 18 and 60) Not too complicated right? It's called profiling! And guess what? It works!

[Big Warlock]

No really, wondering. I ask because I have a brother in law who was born in Jordan. He looks like a terrorist (no facial hair though). Aside from his last name he would fit the criteria of never being able to fly again. He is by all means American. He's lived in America since the age of 12. Just wondering how to filter out the bad while at the same time keeping the good.
I am sure he won't mind being pulled over and stripped search for the good of everyone right? Seriously. He wouldn't right?

[Jetaholic]

How would you go about separating the "good" muslums from the bad? Would you just say that anyone that looks Middle Eastern can't fly or would you just prohibit those that have Middle Eastern type names from flying?
Well, sad to say this, but pretty much this is what would be required to pull this off. Why should we the American people be stripped of our rights and conveniences all because a certain group of people who aren't even Americans decide to pull shit like this? The Muslims are the ones who decided to pull this shit. And while I do understand that there are in fact "good" Muslims out there, unfortunately the "bad" Muslims ruined it for all of them.
Let's face it. We as humans have no way of knowing ANYTHING about a person at first glance. Having said that, the only thing we really have to go off of with people we don't know are stereotypes. And even if you DO know someone, you may only THINK you know them because people only let you know what they want you to know about them.
In the case of an airport, security personnel have know way of knowing one person from the other. Therefore for the safety of the people, all they can do is isolate people based on past experience with them. We have had a very bad experience with Muslims. I do realize there are some good ones out there, but again like I said before the bad ones ruined it for the good ones, and we as the people of the United States of America should not have to give up our rights all because the non-Americans focked it up for us. Since when should we let people from other countries control the rights of the American people?
And another thing...WTF is up with non-Americans coming into the US and receiving financial aid and benefits that we the American people cannot even receive from our own government?

[QuickJet]

A agree with what some of you guys are saying. Profiling works as does limiting the visas issued. I think the real problem lyes with securing our boarders. It's easier to keep them out than it is to moniter them once they are here. Face it, if we left our security up to a $10.00 per hour TSA employee this country would be dust in a week.
Why can't we impliment a shoot on sight program at the boarder? We can also serve extremely stiff fines (or even jail time) for those who not only employ but house illegals as well. What about "round ups"?

[CA Stu]

Gee, I guess I've never been fortunate to meet a "good" muslum. Were the 'black muslums' of the 60's or 70's good muslums? I don't think so!
This country is so f*cked up in it's p/c thinking it doesn't make a lot of sense.
So we've had a few shootings and we go and outlaw all of the assault weapons to stop this sort of thing. 10 years later they find it didn't make sh*t-for-difference and drop the law. (except this pos state). So we have a few accidents cuz a few brain-dead clowns have a cell phone up to their ear when driving. Now we will have a cell phone law to contend with.
So we have a problem with a few rag-heads but we can't profile, sortout, look closely at, or anything else that might be construed as discriminatory to protect our selves. In each case a small minority of the entire population causes the problem and we all pay for it, except this PROBLEM.
What's the difference? Personally, I don't give a rats-ass about the "feelings" of some fricken muslum as they have brought this upon themselves. I'm sick and tired of a few small groups of dirtbags that can't control themselves infringing upon my freedoms and liberties.
Discrimination is fine by me. Isolate the ones causing the problems and f*ck THEIR rights. Why should I lose my rights cuz of their actions and behavior?
Let's see what else is affecting us all cuz of the actions of a few.
Asians-> eating dogs for dinner. Ya wanna eat dog then go back the f*ck where you came from. NOT HERE.
Mexicans-> ya wanna shoot guns in the air on holidays, then outlaw Mexicans having guns.
Ragheads really enjoy blowing things up. Then outlaw ragheads.
After giving this considerable thought I've come to the conclusion that any raghead muslum found in the country 30 days from now is 'fair game' and can be hunted and killed on sight. (with the proper hunting license and 'raghead tag').
Rio-> stopped giving a damn about YOUR RIGHTS when your freedoms started costing me my rights.
Hey! Replace "Muslim" ("muslum" :rolleyes: ) with "Jew" and you sound just like some infamous guy from history?
Who could that be? Hmmmm.....
Your values expressed in that post don't reflect those of a real freedom loving American's views at all.
I'm embarassed for you.
Thanks
CA Stu

[seanv]

i for one would welcome profiling. now, im of italian decent and during the summer darken up. hmmm i might be pulled out. so would some hispanics etc etc. pull me out! i have nothing to hide and feel strongly that the only peeps that would complain are hiding something.
i dont travel alot but i have been picked out twice for searches at the airport. afterwards i thanked them for doing their job.
as for the hitler referance...he tried to extinguish a race not protect his home from terrorists! get it right!

[ratso]

Hell yes profile! It's okay not to I guess unless you're the one in a building or a plane going down in a ball of flames! The illegals still piss me off more than anything! :mad:

[seanv]

im with ya ratso. we have a guy along the border here in az that's looking at huge fines for holding illegals at gunpoint. i guess some of them "a hunting party" were us citizens thats what brought light to his actions. problem i have is this. HE WAS ON HIS PROPERTY! geezus! if i lived down there i would be packin a m4 as well.

[Old Texan]

Sadly too many in America don't understand the Muslim Brotherhood. This jihad didn't just happen overnight.
Check out the site and read the excerpt below for info on the US Chapter. These guys want to rule the world and basically extinguish the non believers. Most Americans can tell you more about Britney Spears or Paris Hilton and fail to realize the cancer growing in the world. Why hasn't the media picked up?
Check out the Nov issue of Playboy for a very real story written by an expert on the Brotherhood and how Jordan is dealing with it.
Folks we need to educate ourselves and realize what we're really up against.
US
The Muslim Brotherhood has been active in the US since the 1960s. Its goals have included propagating Islam and creating havens for Muslims in the US, and integrating Muslims. A main strategy has been dawah or Islamic renewal and outreach. In the 1960, groups such as U.S. military personnel, prison inmates and black people were specifically targeted for dawah. Muslim activists involved with the Muslim Brotherhood have started organizations in the US including the Muslim Students Association in 1963 [5], North American Islamic Trust in 1971, the Islamic Society of North America in 1981, the American Muslim Council in 1990, and the Muslim American Society in 1992, and the International Institute of Islamic Thought in the 1980s. [6].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

[ratso]

No muslims should be immune...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1310206,00.html