damn FORD 6.0il leaker!!!!!

[riverroyal]

i took it in for oil change yesterday at ford,my 05 6.0 diesel with 28k miles.I asked them to look under it real quick at a oil leak,my second bad one.Well long story short,im in a rental.The real main seal is bad,I may get it back in a week........new turbo,new innercooler,new injector harnesses,whats left!!

[IMPATIENT 1]

just outta curiousity, but have you ever driven a duramax?i'm a gm tech and hardly ever see a leak on them:D

[Eliminator 4 Life]

i took it in for oil change yesterday at ford,my 05 6.0 diesel with 28k miles.I asked them to look under it real quick at a oil leak,my second bad one.Well long story short,im in a rental.The real main seal is bad,I may get it back in a week........new turbo,new innercooler,new injector harnesses,whats left!!
Been there done that. When you want my attorneys number let me know. Cause the tranny will be ripped out about 5 times they still wont be able to fix it..

[cc322]

,whats left!!
A V10 :D

[riverroyal]

just outta curiousity, but have you ever driven a duramax?i'm a gm tech and hardly ever see a leak on them:D
Ive always had fords,but this will be my last.

[riverroyal]

A V10 :D
it never broke.

[riverbound]

Ive always had fords,but this will be my last.
I have always had Frods too and my last truck was a great truck (180k miles and no problems) But when it comes to Diesel motors it would be hard to beat the Cummins......thats why I went with a dodge this time around.

[riverroyal]

Been there done that. When you want my attorneys number let me know. Cause the tranny will be ripped out about 5 times they still wont be able to fix it..
its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with that

[riverroyal]

Been there done that. When you want my attorneys number let me know. Cause the tranny will be ripped out about 5 times they still wont be able to fix it..
its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with that

[IMPATIENT 1]

i put a diablo tuner and free flow exhaust on a duramax 4wd dually 4dr and on the med tuner setting he can smoke the back tires,all 4:D

[Eliminator 4 Life]

its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with that
or if you have been with out ur vehicle for 30 days:)

[cc322]

V 10 Yep I love mine, they have all had there problems, Ford, Chevy,Dodge. It's how the dealer, or the manufacture trys to help you out, maybe a new truck?

[riverroyal]

or if you have been with out ur vehicle for 30 days:)
has been great,they treat us fine.just frustrating

[riverbound]

its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with that
There is a staute on how long you are with out your vehicle.

[IMPATIENT 1]

its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with that
true, but the lemon law also state if you've had the same trouble repeatedlly and keep havin the exact same trouble a certain amount of time, its a lemon and the manufacture has to prorate you a new truck or prorated retail value. i've had to give depositions a few times over some gm cars.

[riverroyal]

true, but the lemon law also state if you've had the same trouble repeatedlly and keep havin the exact same trouble a certain amount of time, its a lemon and the manufacture has to prorate you a new truck or prorated retail value. i've had to give depositions a few times over some gm cars.
everytime,and they fix it typically in 5 days or less

[blown65]

My GM is going thru buy back right now.
Rearend, xfercase, EGR cooler three times, Tranny cooler once. 9 months ownership, 5 months in the shop. (5k miles by me, 1k by dealer fixing crap) So much for the great dmax. (Ive had two others, they were great trucks)
I'm done with GM after how they treated us, already ordered a 08 F-450.
Oregon law is 4 attempts to fix same issue or 30 days out of service in first yr.

[IMPATIENT 1]

My GM is going thru buy back right now.
Rearend, xfercase, EGR cooler three times, Tranny cooler once. 9 months ownership, 5 months in the shop. (5k miles by me, 1k by dealer fixing crap) So much for the great dmax. (Ive had two others, they were great trucks)
I'm done with GM after how they treated us, already ordered a 08 F-450.
Oregon law is 4 attempts to fix same issue or 30 days out of service in first yr.
were you runnin a big programmer??

[blown65]

Truck was totally stock. No programmer had ever touched it.

[IMPATIENT 1]

Truck was totally stock. No programmer had ever touched it.
huh, yours is honestly the 1st i've herd doing that and i go to dallas almost every month to classes and talk to gm engineers.was it a new body style?or silverado?

[Eliminator 4 Life]

huh, yours is honestly the 1st i've herd doing that and i go to dallas almost every month to classes and talk to gm engineers.was it a new body style?or silverado?
Mine got bought back to my GMC 04 injector issues.

[phebus]

Your driveway must look really nice. :mad:

[riverroyal]

Your driveway must look really nice. :mad:
its epoxy coated:D

[IMPATIENT 1]

Mine got bought back to my GMC 04 injector issues.
yep, i'm a pro at replacing em.the key to a long lived duramax is to add an additional fuel filter. the stock one stops up at 10-12k and the mills starts to lose power quikly, alot of debris gets by and clogs injector nozzles. i've seen dmax's come in dripping deisel from the tailgate from a cracked injector that filled the block with fuel, floated out the oil, then starts puking out the fuel from the pcv system, its the reason they extended the fuel system warranty.but the customers i recommended the extra filter to have had 0 trouble with injectors.
sorry about the thread jack;)

[JB in so cal]

everytime,and they fix it typically in 5 days or less
Well, then, settle down, now!!!:D Have I told you my V-10 rocks!

[riverroyal]

Well, then, settle down, now!!!:D Have I told you my V-10 rocks!
but its great paying .50$ a gallon more

[phebus]

its epoxy coated:D
You must have bought that from Toby :D

[IMPATIENT 1]

but its great paying .50$ a gallon more
bio diesel, its like crack for em, no joke!and alot cheaper, better mileage from what i've hearing from customers.

[blown65]

huh, yours is honestly the 1st i've herd doing that and i go to dallas almost every month to classes and talk to gm engineers.was it a new body style?or silverado?
Well, like I said, the two prior were great. I guess thats why we have a Lemon Law, its a pos. 4 months out of service straight is BS. (Been in the shop since the first of Sept cause they couldn't figure out wtf was wrong)

[Eliminator 4 Life]

bio diesel, its like crack for em, no joke!and alot cheaper, better mileage from what i've hearing from customers.
So ur saying the fuel is crappy maybe I should add an extra fuel filter on my Dodge. Do you know a good company that makes a add on filter.

[IMPATIENT 1]

So ur saying the fuel is crappy maybe I should add an extra fuel filter on my Dodge. Do you know a good company that makes a add on filter.
wix makes a nice add on kit with a water seperator, can't remember the p# but we're gettin them thru o'reilly auto parts.
the bio diesel is cleaner and burns better which allows more injector timing(more power). our local train company(kiamichi railroad) called me before fall askin if i thought it would run in locomotives ,they can get it in huge bulk loads for almost 1 buck cheaper but was worried about it damaging engines. i gave them the gm diesel engineers tele# i had.don't know if they're runnin it in their trains but i do know they're havin good luck in their service units with bio diesel, and less filter changes!

[Hardly Satisfied]

Ive always had fords,but this will be my last.
Steve, you could use Toby's truck this summer since he won't be going to the river this year

[phebus]

Steve, you could use Toby's truck this summer since he won't be going to the river this year
Nope, he has to tow his boat behind him with the "For Sale" sign on it. :D

[HammerDown]

bio diesel, its like crack for em, no joke!and alot cheaper,....
And that won't be for long.^
And just one reason after owning a Diesel since 1988 I'm thinking about going back to gas for a truck. Something that burns regular grade and A LOT less then Diesel Fuel!

[Not So Fast]

Guy across the street from me just had his Ford Dually taken back by Ford for oil leaks they couldn't or wouldn't fix, now has a Chevy?? I read these kinds of problems all the time but the allegiance to a particular brand amazes me, why :idea: NSF

[wright27]

Going from a diesel to a V-10 would not make you happy. Gas guzzling POS.

[KLEPTOW]

A V10 :D
Add a Whipple and a Gear Vendors drive for less than the price of the smoke bomb upgrade.......................

[topless]

its been a new issue every time,lemon law is tough with thatContact the arbitration department at the BBB. They do arbitrations for most major manufacterers. Good luck.

[JB in so cal]

Going from a diesel to a V-10 would not make you happy. Gas guzzling POS.
Cruise set at 70 - almost 14mpg. Tows 12,000# if I need it. I can have a conversation with the motor running. I didn't pay $5k additional up front so I could also pay more for fuel.
Huh. pos,??? Lemme think more on that...:rolleyes:

[OutCole'd]

Cruise set at 70 - almost 14mpg. Tows 12,000# if I need it. I can have a conversation with the motor running. I didn't pay $5k additional up front so I could also pay more for fuel.
Huh. pos,??? Lemme think more on that...:rolleyes:
Plus .50 less per gallon.

[Hardly Satisfied]

Nope, he has to tow his boat behind him with the "For Sale" sign on it. :D
Rick, not to sure about Toby going to the river that much this year with another little one in the oven

[FRENCHIE]

i took it in for oil change yesterday at ford,my 05 6.0 diesel with 28k miles.I asked them to look under it real quick at a oil leak,my second bad one.Well long story short,im in a rental.The real main seal is bad,I may get it back in a week........new turbo,new innercooler,new injector harnesses,whats left!!
ive had the exact same probs with mine!!!:idea:

[Not So Fast]

ive had the exact same probs with mine!!!:idea:
My point exactly!! NSF

[seanv]

ok here we go... my 03 6.0 has had the vac pump,rear main, turbo seals and thats it replaced. i dont have one of those EGO box's but i do have the standard 8" lift 37" tires and cat back exhaust. my truck runs fantastic and pulls my 31cat just fine. all of the trucks out there have issues and they will NEVER be the trucks or grandfathers passed down to us. these trucks have so much electronics and such that get discontinued shortly after being released its crazy.
my 01 stroke blew thru 5 tranny's in 30k miles so i feel your pain. i called the customer care line for ford and they bought back that truck and got me this one so give that a try. i love my fords as much as the bowtie boys love the chev's and such. my .02

[Baja Big Dog]

Cruise set at 70 - almost 14mpg. Almost 14? maybe closer to 13, two buddies with v10's, they get more like 11-12 on the roadTows 12,000# if I need it. I can have a conversation with the motor running.How much noise do you hear inside the truck of a diesel? I didn't pay $5k additional up front so I could also pay more for fuel.Look at the resale, you get the additional money back, cant give away a v10 used....How many v10 are out there with over 200k miles?
Huh. pos,??? Lemme think more on that...:rolleyes:
Now for a little lesson in math...using your numbers..
Anaheim to Lake Havasu---291 miles
V-10
291/14mpg=20.7 gals X 2.40=$49.68
Noisey diesel (with 240K miles)
291/18mpg=16.11 galsX2.90=$46.72
Hum??? the two V10's that I know of (both of which are for sale) may get 14, but realistic numbers at 75 and 80 mph is more like 12 and dont dare tow anything, it goes down to 8 and 9 mpg.
Your milage was "cruiseing" at 70 mph, so you are "THE" guy that drives 70! Stay off the 40 and the 15 or you will be a hood orniment!
This is not smart-ass or in your face it is facts, and yes I have had this conversation before!!

[JB in so cal]

Now for a little lesson in math...using your numbers..
Anaheim to Lake Havasu---291 miles
V-10
291/14mpg=20.7 gals X 2.40=$49.68
Noisey diesel (with 240K miles)
291/18mpg=16.11 galsX2.90=$46.72
Hum??? the two V10's that I know of (both of which are for sale) may get 14, but realistic numbers at 75 and 80 mph is more like 12 and dont dare tow anything, it goes down to 8 and 9 mpg.
Your milage was "cruiseing" at 70 mph, so you are "THE" guy that drives 70! Stay off the 40 and the 15 or you will be a hood orniment!
This is not smart-ass or in your face it is facts, and yes I have had this conversation before!!
Fair enough. Now toss all of that new math back into your dieselator and see how long it would take with that sterling 4mpg improvement to make up for the extra costs involved - up front, tune ups, cost per gallon, etc - I see you have 240,000 miles on your truck - my guess is that's about how long.
Not many people are dedicated to a truck for that long. You are in the very small minority, especially on here.
We can dance like this all day - your happy with your truck - I'm happy with mine. I put 16,000 miles on my F-250 in a year - every one of them was trouble free.

[OutCole'd]

Now for a little lesson in math...using your numbers..
Anaheim to Lake Havasu---291 miles
V-10
291/14mpg=20.7 gals X 2.40=$49.68
Noisey diesel (with 240K miles)
291/18mpg=16.11 galsX2.90=$46.72
Hum??? the two V10's that I know of (both of which are for sale) may get 14, but realistic numbers at 75 and 80 mph is more like 12 and dont dare tow anything, it goes down to 8 and 9 mpg.
Your milage was "cruiseing" at 70 mph, so you are "THE" guy that drives 70! Stay off the 40 and the 15 or you will be a hood orniment!
This is not smart-ass or in your face it is facts, and yes I have had this conversation before!!
I've never averaged over 15mpg in my DMax.
I guess if I only drove down hill, I'd be doing fine.

[Baja Big Dog]

I've never averaged over 15mpg in my DMax.
I guess if I only drove down hill, I'd be doing fine.
I get 18 mpg chipped (on 7.3), not a radical chip but a good mpg program, friends with chipped 6.0 get over 18 on the road, three or four guys with Dodge's one guy got over 20 from Havasu to Phoenix (calculated), the other guy cant over 13 no matter what he does???
Went to Mexico another guy with a Dura-Jap and he was getting almost 20!! It is chipped.:idea:

[OutCole'd]

I get 18 mpg chipped (on 7.3), not a radical chip but a good mpg program, friends with chipped 6.0 get over 18 on the road, three or four guys with Dodge's one guy got over 20 from Havasu to Phoenix (calculated), the other guy cant over 13 no matter what he does???
Went to Mexico another guy with a Dura-Jap and he was getting almost 20!! It is chipped.:idea:
Can I get great milaege on a long drive, no problem. I'm talking average after 30-60 days of normal driving. I'm not thrilled with my diesel.

[Baja Big Dog]

Fair enough. Now toss all of that new math back into your dieselator and see how long it would take with that sterling 4mpg improvement to make up for the extra costs involved - up front, tune ups, cost per gallon, etc - I see you have 240,000 miles on your truck - my guess is that's about how long.
Not many people are dedicated to a truck for that long. You are in the very small minority, especially on here.
We can dance like this all day - your happy with your truck - I'm happy with mine. I put 16,000 miles on my F-250 in a year - every one of them was trouble free.
240,000 in 6 years, yea I guess I drive the piss out of it, just cant get rid of it, it goes to Cabo about 6 times a year and it will go again next week, most of the miles are in Mexico, and at $1.80 a gal it really saves mucho peso's.
Ive got 6 other powerstroke service trucks, couldnt run a business with out them!!

[topless]

Here is some information for you. Hope it helps.http://lemonlaw.bbb.org/

[wright27]

Cruise set at 70 - almost 14mpg. Tows 12,000# if I need it. I can have a conversation with the motor running. I didn't pay $5k additional up front so I could also pay more for fuel.
Huh. pos,??? Lemme think more on that...:rolleyes:
Thats funny my buddy has one and he only gets 8-10 mpg. He towes his trailer and I have to slow for him at the top of every hill so he can catch up. It also cost him more in gas than me to get where we are going cause I get better milage. As far as noise I got the duramax, sold the Ford. Just like riverroyal,s it leaked oil and tranny started slippen at less than 20k miles.
My duramax gets 21 mpg at 70 mph. You do the math.
As far as the 5k in the begining. My diesel will outlast your v-10 when you are paying for a new motor I will still be moven right along.

[OutCole'd]

Thats funny my buddy has one and he only gets 8-10 mpg. He towes his trailer and I have to slow for him at the top of every hill so he can catch up. It also cost him more in gas than me to get where we are going cause I get better milage. As far as noise I got the duramax, sold the Ford. Just like riverroyal,s it leaked oil and tranny started slippen at less than 20k miles.
My duramax gets 21 mpg at 70 mph. You do the math.
As far as the 5k in the begining. My diesel will outlast your v-10 when you are paying for a new motor I will still be moven right along.
Boy, something must really be wrong with my D Max, cause I'm only really getting about 14mpg.
Sure, I've 40mpg. but that was coasting downhill, does that count?

[wright27]

Boy, something must really be wrong with my D Max, cause I'm only really getting about 14mpg.
Sure, I've 40mpg. but that was coasting downhill, does that count?
City not towing I average 14.5 mpg. On the freeway not towing I got 21 mpg coming back to California from Flagstaff.

[blown65]

My good 05 dmax was lifted with 36's and got 14 town and 18 hwy not towing. Around 12-13 towing the Cat. (We have some big hills to go over to get to Shasta, if not for that I'm sure it would get 14-15 towing)

[lewiville]

Been there done that. When you want my attorneys number let me know. Cause the tranny will be ripped out about 5 times they still wont be able to fix it..
if he's good I would like it for referance.
I had a new trans put in at Capistrano Ford last December after I took it in for a trans flush because of a hesitation that was happening and they ended up telling me that i needed a new trans. Well, I just took it in to have the "new" trans flushed for the same and it works just fine.
Like to have his name and number just in case.

[jrgaudettes]

My 05 6.0 4WD 50,000 miles has been trouble free so far. Knock on wood.:D

[SummitKarl]

Ive always had fords,but this will be my last.
you took it to Ken Grody Ford I am guessing?
if so tell them "Karl":rolleyes: will buy another truck from them if they don't fix you up right quick:eek: :D
lets just say they know me;) WELL!!!!!!:D

[BOBALOO]

What sense does it make to argue mileage when we drive boats that get GALLONS to the MILE:confused:
I have an 03 V10 and I get 9-10 towing a 25' boat. I get around 12 not towing. I only put 38k on it since new. Makes no sense to buy a diesel for me. Big deal if it takes an extra minute to get up the Cajon on a 5 hour drive.:hammer2:
I also have an 02 7.3 that gets 12-13 ( it weighs 9k with the service bed and rack) and I have 189k on it. I've had little real probs on either truck.
How many diesel owners on this thread have a truck more than 3 years old anyhow?
Carry On.:D

[stoker22405]

Boy, something must really be wrong with my D Max, cause I'm only really getting about 14mpg.
Sure, I've 40mpg. but that was coasting downhill, does that count?
I got 18 plus in my D-MAX and my Powerstroke 7.3

[OutCole'd]

I got 18 plus in my D-MAX and my Powerstroke 7.3
Your full of shit.:D

[cc322]

What sense does it make to argue mileage when we drive boats that get GALLONS to the MILE:confused:
I have an 03 V10 and I get 9-10 towing a 25' boat. I get around 12 not towing. I only put 38k on it since new. Makes no sense to buy a diesel for me. Big deal if it takes an extra minute to get up the Cajon on a 5 hour drive.:hammer2:
I also have an 02 7.3 that gets 12-13 ( it weighs 9k with the service bed and rack) and I have 189k on it. I've had little real probs on either truck.
How many diesel owners on this thread have a truck more than 3 years old anyhow?
Carry On.:D
After reading all the posts, I would have to agree with this the most. BTW I also have a 03 V10 and put about 10,000- 12,000 miles a year, cost wise a diesel just isnt practical, and as I see it most of you store your boat out in Havi, so who give a flying puck about mileage, did any body really buy this size of truck to brag about mileage?:confused:

[JB in so cal]

After reading all the posts, I would have to agree with this the most. BTW I also have a 03 V10 and put about 10,000- 12,000 miles a year, cost wise a diesel just isnt practical, and as I see it most of you store your boat out in Havi, so who give a flying puck about mileage, did any body really buy this size of truck to brag about mileage?:confused:
Where the hell've you been???:rolleyes:

[cc322]

Where the hell've you been???:rolleyes:
I knew you missed me:D

[HammerDown]

How many diesel owners on this thread have a truck more than 3 years old anyhow?
Carry On.:D
Ding...have a 7.3 Ford 175,000 miles, 19 years young.
Great truck but w/the price of fuel I'd rather have something that burns the much cheaper regular grade gas.

[OCMerrill]

I will add a little fuel to the fire...(weak pun I know)
What kept me from Diesel on my latest 2500HD PU was the fact that in the land where JB, cc322, and I live getting Diesel meant fueling on El Toro
road at the 5 fwy. PITA. Intersections I try and avoid like the plague. Always packed with peeps.
I buy a bunch of Diesel for my box trucks and I just ordered a third Isuzu NPR truck new with a 6.0L Gas motor. It will take me 5+ years to make up for the Low Sulfur surcharge Heavy truck sellers are placing on the new 07 year trucks. Fawk it.
Gas is just plain easy and 2.15 a gallon in AZ at the 40 just across the bridge. Bought it there yesterday.;)

[wright27]

I will never understand the gas motor guys saying diesel cost more. Going from point a to point b if you have a big block or a V-10 you will pay more money out of pocket to get there than the diesel will.:sqeyes:

[cc322]

I will never understand the gas motor guys saying diesel cost more. Going from point a to point b if you have a big block or a V-10 you will pay more money out of pocket to get there than the diesel will.:sqeyes:
I think you need to look at the whole picture, not just the mpg, Diesel fuel is alot more then regular unleaded, and has been for a while with no signs of it going any lower, especially with the new emessions laws. and dont forget the up front cost to purchase that diesel engine for the 07/08's, 5,000.00 or more,buys alot of 87 octane. Not to mention the maintance cost over gas. Now I am not saying dont buy diesel, I really think I would love one in the future, but my situation right now dosent warrent me tospend the extra money when my boat is out in Havi and I tow nothing else when I am at home. Everyones situation is different and thats fine, but for you to post how the V10 is a POS you are way off base, it is a great motor for what it is, and was designed to do, same with the big GM motor. I just believe you really need to work the diesel, and drive it alot for it to pay off, and at 10,000 to12,000 a year it's not worth it to me, jmo

[wright27]

I had the V-10 I was not impressed. To each is own.
I also have a 35 ft toyhauler the V-10 just doesn't cut it for me.

[HammerDown]

I will never understand the gas motor guys saying diesel cost more. Going from point a to point b if you have a big block or a V-10 you will pay more money out of pocket to get there than the diesel will.:sqeyes:
You must keep that Diesel an awful long time to make up the difference of...
5K more for the Diesel Engine...$$$
More oil 15 qts...$$$
Fuel Filters big money...$$$
Price of Fuel is .60 cents and higher than premium grade gas (around me).
And GOD forbid ANY newer Diesel needs to be fixed...out of warrantee (not that any shops can figure them out) see below*.
$$$$ have ya priced out one of the newer injectors or Injection pumps.:sqeyes:
I'm not new to owning a diesel...I didn't just buy one because it's the (in thing) to do. I've had mine since 1988 w/ fuel was way below regular grade gas AND the engines were simple to work on if needed.
Unless one is going to WORK thet Diesel Engine EVERY-DAY...it's a waste of money period!
*my neighbor just had his newer Cummins Towed to Cummins because no Dealer/shop wanted to look at it.
So far the bill is $2.600

[wright27]

You must keep that Diesel an awful long time to make up the difference of...
5K more for the Diesel Engine...$$$
More oil 15 qts...$$$
Fuel Filters big money...$$$
Price of Fuel is .60 cents and higher than premium grade gas (around me).
And GOD forbid ANY newer Diesel needs to be fixed...out of warrantee (not that any shops can figure them out) see below*.
$$$$ have ya priced out one of the newer injectors or Injection pumps.:sqeyes:
I'm not new to owning a diesel...I didn't just buy one because it's the (in thing) to do. I've had mine since 1988 w/ fuel was way below regular grade gas AND the engines were simple to work on if needed.
Unless one is going to WORK thet Diesel Engine EVERY-DAY...it's a waste of money period!
*my neighbor just had his newer Cummins Towed to Cummins because no Dealer/shop wanted to look at it.
So far the bill is $2.600
Well my toy hauler weighs right at 16000lbs when loaded. The V-10 just does not have the power I want when towing the 5th wheel. The Dmax does.

[stoker22405]

[QUOTE=OutCole'd;2323926]Your full of shit.:D[/Q
I know but I still got 18 plus out of both

[LOWRIVER2]

My 04 Ford 6.0 had EVERY seal (main seal twice) replaced by 32k miles. I sold it and went to the LBZ Chevy. Ford makes a strong truck (suspension/body) but the 03-04 motors for the most part are CRAP. I've heard MUCH less trouble with the 05-06's as I (think) they went with more head studs. I was told this made an issue as the 03's/04's lost heads especially when chipped.
As long as it's american, I have no real preference (the final dollar of the Izusu engine goes to GM), of the two but hopefully Ford gets the next dual turbo setup right. I know a lot of people are hesitant about going back to Ford after all the 6.0 issues.
Diesel's great if you tow ( 13klb. toy box for me). You really have to just like them otherwise to make the argument over the cost. There's few boats for fresh water that really require a diesel to tow over gas.

[Baja Big Dog]

You must keep that Diesel an awful long time to make up the difference of...
5K more for the Diesel Engine...$$$
More oil 15 qts...$$$
Fuel Filters big money...$$$
Price of Fuel is .60 cents and higher than premium grade gas (around me).
And GOD forbid ANY newer Diesel needs to be fixed...out of warrantee (not that any shops can figure them out) see below*.
$$$$ have ya priced out one of the newer injectors or Injection pumps.:sqeyes:
I'm not new to owning a diesel...I didn't just buy one because it's the (in thing) to do. I've had mine since 1988 w/ fuel was way below regular grade gas AND the engines were simple to work on if needed.
Unless one is going to WORK thet Diesel Engine EVERY-DAY...it's a waste of money period!
*my neighbor just had his newer Cummins Towed to Cummins because no Dealer/shop wanted to look at it.
So far the bill is $2.600
Man o man, I do all the homework (post numbr 45) and no one reads it...that hurts, it is cheaper to drive per mile that a gas motor, 5k more to buy...
heres what I do, have yor friends that argue value of a diesel look at the truck trader, cover up the description and look at the price, you will know what motor it has. Cant give a v10 away.

[blown65]

Man o man, I do all the homework (post numbr 45) and no one reads it...that hurts, it is cheaper to drive per mile that a gas motor, 5k more to buy...
heres what I do, have yor friends that argue value of a diesel look at the truck trader, cover up the description and look at the price, you will know what motor it has. Cant give a v10 away.
I hate towing with Gas rigs period. I always feel I'm running the shit outta them since I gotta pull a good grade to get to the lake. At least with the diesel its just cruise on up the hill. Maybe at 100k you may have to do injectors, but after 100k of towing heavy stuff (10k or more) that poor little V10 will prob need replaced cause it will be worn out. Maybe thats why all the Gas truck guys take it in the shorts when it comes to resale. You talk losing your 5k, but you get it right back when you sell it. (sorry, just talking in general of other posts, not yours baja)

[JB in so cal]

I give up. You oil burners are right. Gas motors just don't tow 74 tons 90 mph up a 45% grade getting 20 mpg. You got me...

[OutCole'd]

I give up. You oil burners are right. Gas motors just don't tow 74 tons 90 mph up a 45% grade getting 20 mpg. You got me...
Bout time.

[JB in so cal]

Bout time.
Fag!

[speedneeder]

I've owned a 7.3 and currently have an 03 V10 since new. While I feel they are both great engines I prefer the V10. I didnt buy either one based on MPG and feel neither of them get great mileage although I will say the 7.3 was good for about 3 mpg more than the v-10. For the guys that dont have enough towing power with the V10 what gears are you running? I dont typically tow a heavy load but havent run out of power yet.
What I didnt like about diesel was: If I was in an unfamiliar area I would start looking for a fueling station around 1/4 tank as not everyone has diesel, the fuel was always spilled on the service station ground which would transfer to the bottom of my shoes, my floor mats and my house. Lastly, I'm a pretty early riser and am sure my neighbors were glad I gave up starting that motor in the early mornings not to mention having to shut it down to have a conversation. Diesels have their purpose but didnt suit me. Gas motors just seem so easy for my use.

[wright27]

I give up. You oil burners are right. Gas motors just don't tow 74 tons 90 mph up a 45% grade getting 20 mpg. You got me...
Very funny. You made me laugh, thanks:D

[Waldo]

I'm in the market right now and can't decide between an 05 F-350 and an 06 F-350...deisel of course. What do you guys think?:D

[cc322]

I'm in the market right now and can't decide between an 05 F-350 and an 06 F-350...deisel of course. What do you guys think?:D
I think as long as it's a superduty you will be just fine:D I also agree with the post about what gears you have in the V10 most 99-04 came with 3.73 2005 to present standaed are 4.10, now take any of the V10's and add 4.30's to it and it is a great tow machine, with minamal differance in mileage.

[cc322]

I give up. You oil burners are right. Gas motors just don't tow 74 tons 90 mph up a 45% grade getting 20 mpg. You got me...
You so funny:D :D :D

[spectras only]

I tow 4 T getting good gas milage going downhill [ 30 mpg ] with my Navi :D

[wright27]

I'm in the market right now and can't decide between an 05 F-350 and an 06 F-350...deisel of course. What do you guys think?:D
F 250= Failure 250 or 350:D
Dmax is the only way to go for now.

[BOBALOO]

I think as long as it's a superduty you will be just fine:D I also agree with the post about what gears you have in the V10 most 99-04 came with 3.73 2005 to present standaed are 4.10, now take any of the V10's and add 4.30's to it and it is a great tow machine, with minamal differance in mileage.
I have 430's on my V10 , but I lifted it a little and put 35's on it. I also did the Gibson headers and cat back cuz I had some dollaz burning a hole in my pocket.:D It seems a little peppier than before.
I would agree that if I had a 35' 5th wheel I might want a diesel.

[mrs.rvrluvr]

yep, i'm a pro at replacing em.the key to a long lived duramax is to add an additional fuel filter. the stock one stops up at 10-12k and the mills starts to lose power quikly, alot of debris gets by and clogs injector nozzles. i've seen dmax's come in dripping deisel from the tailgate from a cracked injector that filled the block with fuel, floated out the oil, then starts puking out the fuel from the pcv system, its the reason they extended the fuel system warranty.but the customers i recommended the extra filter to have had 0 trouble with injectors.
sorry about the thread jack;)
hey impatient what 2nd fuel filter would you recomend and where to get. How bout how to install. Hubby has an 05 loves it. about 15k. hate to see it die.

[mrs.rvrluvr]

wix makes a nice add on kit with a water seperator, can't remember the p# but we're gettin them thru o'reilly auto parts.
the bio diesel is cleaner and burns better which allows more injector timing(more power). our local train company(kiamichi railroad) called me before fall askin if i thought it would run in locomotives ,they can get it in huge bulk loads for almost 1 buck cheaper but was worried about it damaging engines. i gave them the gm diesel engineers tele# i had.don't know if they're runnin it in their trains but i do know they're havin good luck in their service units with bio diesel, and less filter changes!
sorry I didnt read this yet i am going to get him one of these for his bday

[Waldo]

F 250= Failure 250 or 350:D
Dmax is the only way to go for now.
I've test driven every make of deisel. I like the Ford the best. Just can't decide on 05 or 06. Thanks for the input though:D

[speedneeder]

arent the 05 and 06 almost identical? I'm not aware of any differences.

[wright27]

arent the 05 and 06 almost identical? I'm not aware of any differences.
Yea, they both leak oil and lack power.:D
Oh yea weak tranny also.:D

[speedneeder]

I must be lucky. Bought new in July of 03 and now has 83k miles. Nothing performed to it other than recomended maint. No leaks, no problems towing. But then again I never had a problem with my 7.3 either other than 1 of the electric windows malfunctioned at around 75k miles.

[riverroyal]

arent the 05 and 06 almost identical? I'm not aware of any differences.
were tweaked a bit.I wouldnt buy either one.Dodge maybe if resale doesnt scare you

[JB in so cal]

were tweaked a bit.I wouldnt buy either one.Dodge maybe if resale doesnt scare you
See what you started, freak!

[riverroyal]

See what you started, freak!
this was such a touchy subject

[sdpm]

2003 Ford F-350 7.3 56,000 mi and 70% of the time it was pulling something either a 32' enclosed (14,000 loaded) or the boat or the desert trailer. When I first got it I was told to install the first level Banks engine upgrade (40HP) and the Trans Command for the transmission. Has ran perfect without 1 issue pulling some of the toughest grades around. Only problem(s) have been the brakes. I kill the front brakes about every 10,000 mi. Rotors warp! Other than that is has been a perfect truck in every way. The ride is awsome for a 1 ton truck. Wouldn't trade it for nothing!:D

[phebus]

2003 Ford F-350 7.3 56,000 mi and 70% of the time it was pulling something either a 32' enclosed (14,000 loaded) or the boat or the desert trailer. When I first got it I was told to install the first level Banks engine upgrade (40HP) and the Trans Command for the transmission. Has ran perfect without 1 issue pulling some of the toughest grades around. Only problem(s) have been the brakes. I kill the front brakes about every 10,000 mi. Rotors warp! Other than that is has been a perfect truck in every way. The ride is awsome for a 1 ton truck. Wouldn't trade it for nothing!:D
Damn, and I was just getting ready to offer you nothing for it! :D
Guess I'd better not bother. :)

[Riverkid]

Get off the skidders.
I have 58K on my '05 and I still have a ton of pad left. So far not one issue. We run a bunch of super dutys and the guys smoking rotors are riding them way too hard. Bought all since '05 and no issues with any of them, and these are work trucks running loaded every day. One ride along and you get it! :D

[riverroyal]

Get off the skidders.
I have 58K on my '05 and I still have a ton of pad left. So far not one issue. We run a bunch of super dutys and the guys smoking rotors are riding them way too hard. Bought all since '05 and no issues with any of them, and these are work trucks running loaded every day. One ride along and you get it! :D
running boards that keeps breaking my truck

[Riverkid]

That's why I got rid of those fockers so early! Bad Karma!
:D :D :D
Never sell anything supercharged to an ex racer!

[riverroyal]

rear main seal fixed,some EGR gaskets replaced,some inner cooler parts replaced,a new window motor.Hell Im good for 6 months.POS

[JB in so cal]

So, that's it. You start a thread like this; ford v. poshevy and then you just say....No big. I got mine back:rolleyes: