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dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:14 PM
i just bought a 6" lift for my 06 Ford F250 diesel. i was wondering if i should put shocks with reservoirs for a smoother ride. someone told me that if i didnt use them i would hate the rough ride. does any one have this set up with or without. how much of a ride difference is there? does it make a difference when towing? and what shocks do you use?? oh my lift is a super lift

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 02:19 PM
I run the the 5150 bilstein dual shock up front and the 5100's in the rear on my HD and love them. ALOT cheaper than going with a Fox or King. The small resevoir holds oil so you do not lose the travel in the shock when it heats up.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:26 PM
did you ever run it without those. im wondering if its worth the few extra bills for em. did you notice a huge difference?

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 02:31 PM
I did not run without them on my truck, but have been in a buddy's without them and not much of a difference. What stiffens the ride is the dual shock. By running the dual shocks you eliminate running a shock in the stock location. At least on the Chevy's. Again, I have a chevy and they ride different than a Ford. You have a coil up front on yours, correct?

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:38 PM
Correct I have the coil. I know the Chevys ride a little smoother at stock than a Ford. I think Im just gonna install this kit and if I get a real bumpy ride I will swap em out. How many inches and tire size did you go?

bigq
01-25-2007, 02:41 PM
The reservoir is for heat and shock fade. Unless you plan on running the baja I wouldn't waste the dough. Useless on the street in my opinion, but if you want to be a high roller put them on.

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 02:41 PM
Correct I have the coil. I know the Chevys ride a little smoother at stock than a Ford. I think Im just gonna install this kit and if I get a real bumpy ride I will swap em out. How many inches and tire size did you go?
I have the CST 6-8 set at 8" with 37's on 20" KMC's.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:45 PM
The reservoir is for heat and shock fade. Unless you plan on running the baja I wouldn't waste the dough. Useless on the street in my opinion, but if you want to be a high roller put them on.
i think they look cool in there... but i thin your right. i dont need them.
any ford guys out there?

Todd969
01-25-2007, 02:46 PM
I used FabTech and Procomp to achive my 6" lift.
Pro-comp coil springs, Deaver leafs
6 MX-6 shocks (single front set on #3, Dual rear set on #4)
35x12.5x17 tires
FabTech floating traction bars, FabTech dual stabilizer.
The ride to me is very good for a straight axle 4x4. It's no Town car, but it's not a kidney shaker either. SlowinHavasu recently went on a road trip with us so he would be a good person to ask about the ride quality.
I have virtually no sag when the boat or utility trailer are loaded.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1634101_0253.JPG
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r103/todd969/101_1593.jpg?t=1169763980

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:47 PM
I have the CST 6-8 set at 8" with 37's on 20" KMC's.
your truck is sick.. do you have the fold out steps.

BADBLOWN572
01-25-2007, 02:48 PM
I went with the Donahoe lift on my truck with the dual bypass shocks. The truck rides much better with this lift on it than it did stock. Not sure how much of it was because of the shocks, but I am very happy with the result.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0722.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0715.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0710.JPG

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 02:49 PM
your truck is sick.. do you have the fold out steps.
Thanks forthe compliment. Yes I have the AMP Research Steps and I just put on the RBP all polished Stainless exhaust. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:49 PM
I used FabTech and Procomp to achive my 6" lift.
Pro-comp coil springs, Deaver leafs
6 MX-6 shocks (single front set on #3, Dual rear set on #4)
35x12.5x17 tires
FabTech floating traction bars, FabTech dual stabilizer.
The ride to me is very good for a straight axle 4x4. It's no Town car, but it's not a kidney shaker either. SlowinHavasu recently went on a road trip with us so he would be a good person to ask about the ride quality.
I have virtually no sag when the boat or utility trailer are loaded.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1634101_0253.JPG
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r103/todd969/101_1593.jpg?t=1169763980
nice truck! i like the flat bed trailer. :D\
thats what i want my truck to look like. a little bigger rim though. oh..and mine is silver

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:54 PM
Thanks forthe compliment. Yes I have the AMP Research Steps and I just put on the RBP all polished Stainless exhaust. HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
i was thinking of doing the RBP. but its soo pricey. lol
i dont know if i should get the long black steps that tuck underneath.. i think best top makes them. or one for each door...the billet aluminum ones.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 02:56 PM
I went with the Donahoe lift on my truck with the dual bypass shocks. The truck rides much better with this lift on it than it did stock. Not sure how much of it was because of the shocks, but I am very happy with the result.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0722.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0715.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/3146/1598IMG_0710.JPG
THANKS...nice truck!!

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 02:59 PM
i was thinking of doing the RBP. but its soo pricey. lol
i dont know if i should get the long black steps that tuck underneath.. i think best top makes them. or one for each door...the billet aluminum ones.
Best Stop is the same as the AMP step. I have the all black one length on each side. Yeah I got a hook up on the RBP from my buddy for $400. All polished.

ultra27jay
01-25-2007, 03:04 PM
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i81/jason41973/DSC00998.jpg
on the 06 s.d its coil sprung. with a single resivor shock u will be fine. if u install the lit kit now and decide to run duel shocks later u will need to take the kit back appart to install the new duel shock bucket. extra labor? what shocks did u get with your superlift kit?

ultra27jay
01-25-2007, 03:05 PM
Best Stop is the same as the AMP step. I have the all black one length on each side. Yeah I got a hook up on the RBP from my buddy for $400. All polished.
u are a baller!!!!:D

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 03:09 PM
u are a baller!!!!:D
Come on now:D You are look at your boat and truck:) I will probably be in contact with you soon about the CST Fabricated 4" Spindles.

Moabirick
01-25-2007, 03:13 PM
I have a 2006 F250 w/6 inch pro comp lift, just coils, shocks, and steering stabilizers. Fritts Ford in Riverside did the lift. From what I know, they are the only Ford dealer in California with there own lift shop inside the dealership. The person who runs it is Gary, from Gary's sports truck in Ontario. They warrantee all of their work. They put 20"x10" wheels on it with 35 BFG all terrains and and AMP steps. I wanted FABTECH coil overs, but Gary told me that unless I was going to be launching the truck, I would not need the overkill. I will admit, I love the look of the coilovers. My ride is excellent. I have a buddy with resevoir on his, however his is the older front end, and mine by far runs much smoother than his. I only have 4500 miles with no problems. This is my two cents. Good luck.

bigq
01-25-2007, 03:18 PM
You might want to look at the adjustable shocks like the MX6. I have these on my Dodge and you can stiffen it up or have a loosy goosy...

ultra27jay
01-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Come on now:D You are look at your boat and truck:) I will probably be in contact with you soon about the CST Fabricated 4" Spindles.
no worries man....have u found me a 525 motor yet????

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 03:22 PM
no worries man....have u found me a 525 motor yet????
I will keep my eyes and ears open.

bigq
01-25-2007, 03:22 PM
I used FabTech and Procomp to achive my 6" lift.
Pro-comp coil springs, Deaver leafs
6 MX-6 shocks (single front set on #3, Dual rear set on #4)
35x12.5x17 tires
FabTech floating traction bars, FabTech dual stabilizer.
The ride to me is very good for a straight axle 4x4. It's no Town car, but it's not a kidney shaker either. SlowinHavasu recently went on a road trip with us so he would be a good person to ask about the ride quality.
I have virtually no sag when the boat or utility trailer are loaded.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1634101_0253.JPG
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r103/todd969/101_1593.jpg?t=1169763980
Nice boat ..Rage? What year?

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 03:32 PM
This is what i bought.
http://www.4wheelonline.com/images/products/K800.jpg

Moabirick
01-25-2007, 03:35 PM
Thats what I have. It is not as fancy looking as all the others, but it works great.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 03:41 PM
My truck needs a lift sooooooo bad. I can hear it crying in the driveway at night:D
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/951/img00010dc.jpg

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 04:06 PM
[QUOTE=ultra27jay;2358126]http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i81/jason41973/DSC00998.jpg
sick rims!

cc322
01-25-2007, 05:19 PM
Not a 6 inch kit but a 3 inch Donahoe leveling kit, with the dr signature shocks and they seem to work fine. Like someone else mentioned you dont need the bypass shocks or resivor but they do look pretty damn impressive, especially on a higher lift. Just curious why you didnt go witht the DR kit? If you want to get the shocks I would go Bilstien or the Dr shocks.
http://members.cox.net/cc322/FORDF250/moto1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/cc322/Truck%20and%20boat/Copy%20of%20IMG_0168boat%20and%20truck2.JPG

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 05:59 PM
i found a guy who said he would sell it to me brand new $750 shipped.. i couldnt pass it up. :D is dr the way to go you think?

cc322
01-25-2007, 06:21 PM
i found a guy who said he would sell it to me brand new $750 shipped.. i couldnt pass it up. :D is dr the way to go you think?
My neighbor put a 3 inch fab tech on his then he saw my dr parts and was amazed how much beefier all the parts were in the dr kit, including the bolts. I have always herd great things on the dr kit for the Ford Superduty, they also use Deaver springs, which are a very good spring made here in the USA, compared to others made in China. I am sure the dr kit is more expensive but there is a reason why. Post some pics when your are done..good luck. BTW just make sure you get good shocks Bilstien 5100 are good, I think they even make them for Superlift?

Southwest47
01-25-2007, 06:33 PM
Best Stop is the same as the AMP step. I have the all black one length on each side. Yeah I got a hook up on the RBP from my buddy for $400. All polished.
I have a similar set-up as you, except I went with an 18" Diamo rim, and the dual Fox up front.
When you say the exhaust made a "huge difference", what are you referring too- performance, or styling? My next purchase will be a polished exhaust, but I am not sure which manufacturer to go with. So far I'm looking at about $850, can you still get the $400 hook-up?:idea:

GBLASER
01-25-2007, 06:33 PM
I too have the Donohoe 4.5" lift on my 05 superduty, but the ride has turned to crap so I have ordered the Bilstein 5100's, I'll let everyone know the difference. BTW I have 35k miles on the Donohoe shocks so they may just be tired. Everyone tells me that Edlebrock makes the Donohoe shocks now but in the past they used the Bilsteins so hopefully they help.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 06:38 PM
My neighbor put a 3 inch fab tech on his then he saw my dr parts and was amazed how much beefier all the parts were in the dr kit, including the bolts. I have always herd great things on the dr kit for the Ford Superduty, they also use Deaver springs, which are a very good spring made here in the USA, compared to others made in China. I am sure the dr kit is more expensive but there is a reason why. Post some pics when your are done..good luck. BTW just make sure you get good shocks Bilstien 5100 are good, I think they even make them for Superlift?
i will defiantly pull this thread back up when its done. i put a pic of my truck above at stock

Uniqueperformancewest
01-25-2007, 06:56 PM
Donahoe Racing is definetly a quality product both in all their hardware and their shocks, I would recommend their kit any day of the week. Its hard for most to get past the price but in the end it truly is worth it. I get lots of customers coming back to me saying they didnt think the price was really justifiable but after installing it and driving it around they never though their truck could actually ride better. Hey man if you need anything Id be glad to help ya out, Superduties are my passion and my mine focus for my business.
Thanks John
Unique Performance West, Inc.

GBLASER
01-25-2007, 07:04 PM
Hey John. I'll let you know if the shocks help the ride because the ride is pretty terrible now. Could the DR shocks be worn out and making the ride worse?

shippingguy
01-25-2007, 07:14 PM
I have a similar set-up as you, except I went with an 18" Diamo rim, and the dual Fox up front.
When you say the exhaust made a "huge difference", what are you referring too- performance, or styling? My next purchase will be a polished exhaust, but I am not sure which manufacturer to go with. So far I'm looking at about $850, can you still get the $400 hook-up?:idea:
The exhaust amde a big difference in power and also believe it or not I have hand calculated MPG and I am seeing a 2 MPG gain easy. Anither benefit will be when towing as well the EGT's will be lower. The hookup was really a one time deal, but I can check and see.

THEPISTONHEAD
01-25-2007, 07:45 PM
I have an 05 SD crew cab. I was lifted with a 6" Fabtech and ran the basic shocks......rode like a caddy....but I also ran the Nitto Terra Grapplers and they where 35". Ive since added a 2 1/2" Daystar spacer and 5" leafs out back. 8 1/2" lift with 37" Toyos on 22's now. I am running the Bilstein 7100 reseviors up front and it rides great. The only thing I would change is I wish I got the Deaver leafs in back. Im running Bilie 5100's in the rear. RCD makes a nice resevior shock for a great price. If you want to know anything about anything when it comes to Super Dutys.........look up and call Marty @ Truck Toyz in McCallen, Texas. Hes been involved in the lifted truck and monster truck world for a long long time. His new SD will be coming out in Truckin soon. Check him out on the web and youll see what im talking about. He will give you a great deal too.
http://trucktoyzperformance.com/

TUNNEL T
01-25-2007, 08:18 PM
The reservoir is for heat and shock fade. Unless you plan on running the baja I wouldn't waste the dough. Useless on the street in my opinion, but if you want to be a high roller put them on.
i have to agree ,that's just the way we roll !!! pro comp resevoir http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/medium/2429DSC00477.JPGhttp://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/2429DSC00479.JPG8 inch pro comp with 37's

BadKachina
01-25-2007, 08:25 PM
I run single res with mine. I tried regular shocks when I first lifted it but the diesel is too heavy and will wear them out fast. You need dual shocks in the front or a single with a res in my opinion. I needed dual stabilizers too, it helped with bump steer. Although you may not have a ton of bump steer with a 6" lift.

dumbandyoung
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
i have to agree ,that's just the way we roll !!! pro comp resevoir http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/medium/2429DSC00477.JPGhttp://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/2429DSC00479.JPG8 inch pro comp with 37's
VERY VERY NICE TRUCK!

plaster dave
01-25-2007, 08:42 PM
See if you can get the fab tech 4.0 coil over for the front that is the best ride you can get on that truck. If you need any prices my buddy gets me some good deals.

Uniqueperformancewest
01-25-2007, 09:15 PM
If you want to run coil overs and get the best ride then youll want to run the new DR Coil Overs that just came out. Those would give you the best all around ride. The way I look at it is DR dedicates themselves to working on the superduty and perfecting the ride, this means they know what they're talking about and how to get the best performance out of a heavy truck.
DR is the way to go,
Thanks John

skygod73
01-25-2007, 11:04 PM
Dual shocks will ride stiffer than a quality single. The main thing is to get a shock that is valved for a Super Duty. Bilstein, DR, and I think Fox are. There may be others as well. I think the 5100 Bilstein is the best value for a quality shock at $70 each. I do prefer the look of a res so I added my own for cosmetics. I got two blank reservoirs with mounts for $50 from Kartek. All said I am still ahead $75 per front over Bil 7100's, and the ride is just as good. As for the lift, DR is by far the best in terms of quality and ride. I have been through 4 SD's myself and in my family there has been 11 lifted. We have been through most lift brands and DR is the best.

riverbound
01-25-2007, 11:24 PM
I had the fabtech 6.5 lift on mine and tossed the fabtech shocks for Bilstein 5100s (duals up front, singles in the rear). I put close to 100k miles on the lift and shocks and NEVER had a problem...runing reservoirs on street trucks is not necessary.
**my truck got plenty of hauling duty and was often loaded down (like in the pic below)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Riverbound/rhino002resize.jpg
My new truck (in the shop now) is also receiving the bilstein 5100's like stated earlier they are one of the few shocks actually valved for the weight of a Diesel.

THEPISTONHEAD
01-26-2007, 07:02 AM
DR and Rize are by far the best out there........but you will spend a bit. If you want a single resevior for both function and looks take a look at the RCD's. They are made by Bilie and are basically a 7100 resevior shock.....around $150. They ride great and have the nickle plated finish which is brighter and stronger then the basic aluminum finish. They look pimp.

catman-do
01-26-2007, 08:05 AM
On my 00' F250 i had a procomp lift and it rode decent. I will never lift a truck again though. Too many hassles, too much wasted money, and not enough functionality.
Hassles= parts breaking, when you air down it takes 3x as long to air back up, have to accomidate everything else (in my case flip axles on trailer to get 5th wheel on)
Wasted money= lift 2k, tires every 15 thousand miles $1300, custom pitman arm 150, new gears 500, new driveshaftx2 600
Functionality= my stock trucks have been able to do everything the lifted ones did. Unless i went with a full suspension setup (aka trophy truck) its not going to help. I get through Glamis and everywhere else just as good stock as anyone else does.

lawbreaker2
01-26-2007, 08:09 AM
Well, I'm learning alot hear, I have a 00 f250 deisel, with a 4inch lift on it, I bought it use like that, And I got to tell ya, this thing ride rough, My semi ride a heck of alot smoother, I want to put a new 6 to 8 inch lift on it, but not sure where to start yet. I also want to go with a set of 20's I think they make the truck look alot bigger and nicer.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/lawbreaker2/tubing047.jpg

seanv
01-26-2007, 08:28 AM
i just bought a 6" lift for my 06 Ford F250 diesel. i was wondering if i should put shocks with reservoirs for a smoother ride. someone told me that if i didnt use them i would hate the rough ride. does any one have this set up with or without. how much of a ride difference is there? does it make a difference when towing? and what shocks do you use?? oh my lift is a super lift
OK....HERE WE GO... i have a 03' stroke 8" and 37"s i run the std pro comp shocks that came with the lift. i like the ride and love when people ride in it for the first time and say how soft it rides. if you wana keep up with the billet croud spend the bucks.
i pull, daily drive and even go hunting with this truck and the pro comp shocks work fine. hope it helps

BOBALOO
01-26-2007, 09:02 AM
Hey John. I'll let you know if the shocks help the ride because the ride is pretty terrible now. Could the DR shocks be worn out and making the ride worse?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Donahoe shocks covered under a lifetime warranty? I have the DR kit on my 03 and think the better ride was mostly from the larger tires than the shocks. If I have to drive the 10 fwy between downtown LA and the 605 I feel like my kidneys are going to fall out! :(
I bought a TRUCK, and I got a TRUCK!:D

dumbandyoung
01-26-2007, 02:28 PM
OK....HERE WE GO... i have a 03' stroke 8" and 37"s i run the std pro comp shocks that came with the lift. i like the ride and love when people ride in it for the first time and say how soft it rides. if you wana keep up with the billet croud spend the bucks.
i pull, daily drive and even go hunting with this truck and the pro comp shocks work fine. hope it helps
thanks bud! im going with your advice!:D
i should use the extra money for a gym membership or a trainer. lol

cc322
01-26-2007, 05:22 PM
Any of the shocks that are a twin tube design, not a mono tube will fade over time and not give you the compression and rebound you need. Bilstien, dr, fox, and some of the better end shocks will last alot longer then the others, meaning you will buy one set and last forever. The pro comp, rancho superlift oil filled shocks are a one shocks fits all, as where the Bistiens and others are valved to your specific truck.
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/bshoc1.htm