Let's Talk About Cross-Eyed People.....

[HavasuSelect]

They throw me off when I have conversations with them. I can't seem to focus on what's being said because I don't know which eye to look at. Maybe I should just look at their mouth? It's even worse when you don't expect them to be cross eyed. I have nothing against cross eyed people, this was just an observation I made today....

[blown65]

My daughter had that problem. Had surgery to correct it. Its pretty common actually and I think most the problem is ppl that cant afford to have it done.
I agree though, its hard to sometimes look at someone in the eyes when you wonder if your looking at the wrong one. Kinda like my mom, she lost one of her arms when she was a kid in a horse riding accident, it sometimes causes some odd situations.

[dumbandyoung]

my friend is.... he walks into shit all the time

[HavasuSelect]

My daughter had that problem. Had surgery to correct it. Its pretty common actually and I think most the problem is ppl that cant afford to have it done.
I agree though, its hard to sometimes look at someone in the eyes when you wonder if your looking at the wrong one. Kinda like my mom, she lost one of her arms when she was a kid in a horse riding accident, it sometimes causes some odd situations.
I didn't know there was a surgery to correct it. I'm glad to hear everything worked out for your daughter.

[Mandelon]

I talked to a guy like that at West Marine yesterday. Kinda freaked me out. I just looked back at the eye that was looking at me. I did glance over my shoulder a couple of times at first cuz I thought he was looking at something else.... :D

[BadKachina]

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That's funny, I havent seen the shocker colored in yet. :D :D :D :D :jawdrop:

[HavasuSelect]

That's funny, I havent seen the shocker colored in yet. :D :D :D :D :jawdrop:
It shows the "darker" side of the shocker.:D

[blown65]

I didn't know there was a surgery to correct it. I'm glad to hear everything worked out for your daughter.
I'm sure there are several different conditions to cause it, and sorry its been a while ago so I dont remember the exact condition.
Yes, she is totally corrected, no probs except having to wear eye glasses for her bad eyesight. (That was part of the problem but not all of it)
The cut and reattach one of the muscles that control the eye from what I remember to relax it. You wouldn't even know there was ever an issue except the eye glasses part.

[Jrocket]

I'm sure there are several different conditions to cause it, and sorry its been a while ago so I dont remember the exact condition.
Yes, she is totally corrected, no probs except having to wear eye glasses for her bad eyesight. (That was part of the problem but not all of it)
The cut and reattach one of the muscles that control the eye from what I remember to relax it. You wouldn't even know there was ever an issue except the eye glasses part.
How old was she when they did the procedure? Did they correct one eye or both? Did she have to do any patching afterwards? Did they correct it fully on the first procedure or did she have to go back for another? What was the price for this?

[blown65]

How old was she when they did the procedure? Did they correct one eye or both? Did she have to do any patching afterwards? Did they correct it fully on the first procedure or did she have to go back for another? What was the price for this?
Ok, we are depending on my terrible memory here.
I believe about 4 yrs old.
No patching after, she did do the patching with no success prior.
They did correct it fully on the first procedure and did do both eyes. The doc we have is awesome IMO.
It was covered by insurance so I dunno the exact cost since I only payed the deductible. I do believe it was about 5500 though total.

[Trailer Park Casanova]

My daughter had that problem. Had surgery to correct it. Its pretty common actually and I think most the problem is ppl that cant afford to have it done.
I agree though, its hard to sometimes look at someone in the eyes when you wonder if your looking at the wrong one. Kinda like my mom, she lost one of her arms when she was a kid in a horse riding accident, it sometimes causes some odd situations.
One of the very first eye surgery proceedures perfected.
They got it down in the mid 1950's.
Routine at the USC eye center off Mission in East LA.
Most outpatient too.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/mugshots/margeramug1.jpg

[HavasuSelect]

One of the very first eye surgery proceedures perfected.
They got it down in the mid 1950's.
Routine at the USC eye center off Mission in East LA.
Most outpatient too.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/mugshots/margeramug1.jpg
AWWWWWWW Don Vito!!!!

[lucky]

They throw me off when I have conversations with them. I can't seem to focus on what's being said because I don't know which eye to look at. Maybe I should just look at their mouth? It's even worse when you don't expect them to be cross eyed. I have nothing against cross eyed people, this was just an observation I made today....
dude - I'm with you On this - I get all self consious and shit ... my friend is like that - best welder i know , focke can do two things at once -- no shit :D

[Jetboatguru]

I'd "Liv" wit it!
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/armageddon/liv_tyler/armaliv.jpg

[Jrocket]

Ok, we are depending on my terrible memory here.
I believe about 4 yrs old.
No patching after, she did do the patching with no success prior.
They did correct it fully on the first procedure and did do both eyes. The doc we have is awesome IMO.
It was covered by insurance so I dunno the exact cost since I only payed the deductible. I do believe it was about 5500 though total.
Im getting ready to go through the exact same scenario here.
4yr old daughter
Patching hasnt done a thing so far.
They will work on both eye muscles.
I have been paying for all of the visits so far out of my own pocket,she's seeing a highly recommended specialist that doesnt take my insurance.
She only has one eye that has a slight cross at certain times.Doesnt always do it,they thought bi-focals would be the answer but hasnt done anything yet.Surgery has to be done soon.
She is only 4 and isnt scared at all,but too be honest Im pretty nervous about it.Just keep worrying about her and the procedure for some reason.I'll be a complete wreck come day of surgery time.:(

[Jetboatguru]

Hang in there Jrocket. Good luck to her.
Tony

[HavasuSelect]

Hang in there Jrocket. Good luck to her.
Tony
Same from me. I hope everything turns out great.

[Mrs.Racer277]

Im getting ready to go through the exact same scenario here.
4yr old daughter
Patching hasnt done a thing so far.
They will work on both eye muscles.
I have been paying for all of the visits so far out of my own pocket,she's seeing a highly recommended specialist that doesnt take my insurance.
She only has one eye that has a slight cross at certain times.Doesnt always do it,they thought bi-focals would be the answer but hasnt done anything yet.Surgery has to be done soon.
She is only 4 and isnt scared at all,but too be honest Im pretty nervous about it.Just keep worrying about her and the procedure for some reason.I'll be a complete wreck come day of surgery time.:(
Hang in there. She will do great. A friends grandson had it done when he was younger. No problem with the surgery but keeping glasses on him was not easy. It has been about 2 years now and his eye in normal.

[Jrocket]

Its been a nerve racking battle to say the least.Something so innocent and precious should'nt have to go through such an ordeal.I'd trade spots with that little girl in a heart beat just to save her from all this.Im paying out of pocket for this and money is no object here,but finding the best doctor is going to be from word of mouth and recommendations.Thats another thing that I worry about.

[JAY4SPEED]

I was born with a lazy eye on my left side, my left eye crossed in toward my nose while my right eye would be straight. They had tried the patches on me and it didn't make any difference. I had the surgery when I was 4 (1979). They retied one of my muscles for proper alignment. To this day, when I get my checkups done, my optometrist measures my eyes and they are still in perfect alignment. After the surgery, you could never tell by looking at me that anything was wrong.
Jrocket, if they were that good in 1979, think of how technology has advanced today. Your daughter will be fine. She will have headaches while her brain adjusts to her new sight, but they eventually go away. Kids are resilient. Don't hesitate to have your little girl go and get the surgery, it will be priceless to her later in life.
I think of how things would be different if my parents didn't have me go through the surgery, how selfconscious and embarrassed I would have been with people making fun of me. Every time I go to the optometrist, I thank him and my parents for helping me when I was young and getting me straightened out.
I wish the best of luck for you and your daughter. If I can help give you any insight from someone who has been there just PM me.
Jay

[blown65]

Im getting ready to go through the exact same scenario here.
4yr old daughter
Patching hasnt done a thing so far.
They will work on both eye muscles.
I have been paying for all of the visits so far out of my own pocket,she's seeing a highly recommended specialist that doesnt take my insurance.
She only has one eye that has a slight cross at certain times.Doesnt always do it,they thought bi-focals would be the answer but hasnt done anything yet.Surgery has to be done soon.
She is only 4 and isnt scared at all,but too be honest Im pretty nervous about it.Just keep worrying about her and the procedure for some reason.I'll be a complete wreck come day of surgery time.:(
Totally understand. We got a second opinion from a well known doc in the field up in Portland and came with the same conclusion. The doc down here has done many many of them and I wouldnt even think twice about recommending someone to him. (Actually had an MRI done prior just to rule out any other things as a possible cause)
My daughters was pretty bad, we never did the bi-focals, but that was on his recommendation because he didnt feel it would help. (We were already doing reg glasses for her)
I was a wreck about the surgery, but its one of those things that had to be done, at least in my daughters case because of how severe it was. Tuff seein your kids go thru things like that, but I would do it again without any thought.
Oh, one thing I forgot but I'm sure the doc has mentioned to ya. Its important to attack it early on so thier eyes learn to work together. (depth perception etc etc)

[locogringo]

LOL.
Ran across someone yesterday who fit that criteria of being cross-eyed. Really hard to not only concentrate on what they were saying but to also try and not be discourteous.
I tried looking at the right eye while he was speaking but then thought that maybe that was the wrong eye so went to looking at the left.
Dawned upon me that he might not like my staring (while he was talking) so I hung my head low and intently observed some rocks and pebbles while he finished his thoughts.
I feel for all of us.
Too bad they don't have a cross-eyed union or something for them.

[locogringo]

err, read all the posts an see that there is some actual reasons for sensitivity here. I hope all works out with the four year old.
If you want me to moderate the last post, let me know.
DB

[cruser]

Do the surgery!! I was also born with this condition. I had 2 surgeries when I was young to correct the problem. In the first surgery, they over corrected the problem and then they tried to fix that with a second surgery but didn't quite get there. Don't worry about the operation though, mine were done in 1952 & 1954 and they have since gotten much better. However, as a result, my depth perception sucks (killed any chance of a sports career) and if I try to use both eyes, I see double. Another effect of living with this is that I can switch which eye I look at you with.
I get the nervous, looking over the shoulder reaction from some but I take a breath and pretend not to notice. If they continue to look around, I do the eye switch thing and most get the hint. Although I have had a couple that then looked over the other shoulder. I have had a few that ask what am I looking at and they get the explaination of why my eyes look like that.
In the 56 years I have had this issue, I have learned to compensate. The only thing I haven't been able accomodate is going to 3D movies. I see 2 images and can not see the depth effect. Oh, and I can instantly recognize anyone who have the slightest eye alignment issue.
The only thing I worry about is getting pulled over and some cop having me follow his pencil with my eyes and him not trained to understand that my eyes will drift as he makes me scan back and forth. Don't wanna have to spend time explaining my reactions to him.

[topless]

When my son was 18 months old, his eye started to cross and I tought we were going to have to have surgery because both my dad and my sister had to when they were little. They put him in coke bottle looking glasses and it corrected it. They told me it was because his vision was so bad. To this day if he doesn't either wear glasses or his contacts, his eye will cross.

[Jrocket]

Thanks to everyone that put up the kind words and encouragement here.Today we finally got an answer from our insurance company that they will cover the treatment my little girl needs.So now we schedule a few exams with her new Dr. and setup the date for the operation procedure.I told her the good news and now she's been on my neck all day asking questions about it....kids!:D
Heres the poster child for most question ever asked!
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/6710pics_009ss.jpg

[ratso]

Thanks to everyone that put up the kind words and encouragement here.Today we finally got an answer from our insurance company that they will cover the treatment my little girl needs.So now we schedule a few exams with her new Dr. and setup the date for the operation procedure.I told her the good news and now she's been on my neck all day asking questions about it....kids!:D
Heres the poster child for most question ever asked!
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/6710pics_009ss.jpg
Wow... Cute Girl!!!!!!!!!!!!;)

[Trailer Park Casanova]

What a cutie!!
My sister had that surgery when she was little.
All is well.

[HavasuSelect]

She's adorable:)

[blown65]

Congrats and good to hear.
Quite the cutie btw. :)

[Jrocket]

Thanks for the kind words about my little girl.She's the best thing thats ever happen to me.

[CornWater]

Thanks for the kind words about my little girl.She's the best thing thats ever happen to me.
What, Dave will be pissed...
j/k:D
Beautiful little girl btw..

[Jrocket]

What, Dave will be pissed...
j/k:D
Beautiful little girl btw..
Dave wont mind,but Wes might have a tear in his eye...LOL :D

[EmpirE231]

How much is the cost of the procedure without insurance?

[Jrocket]

How much is the cost of the procedure without insurance?
The Dr's fees alone were 4500-6000,then there was the use of the hospital and staff there.Around 5-8k total and we were told she might have to have another procedure done later if this one didnt correct it completely.

[EmpirE231]

Good luck with everything.... I had a similar condition, and have done the procedure, and no problems! can her muscle move the damaged eye completly left to right? and they're just alligning it?

[NUTHIN]

has cerebral palsey. one of his eyes is bad like that. hes had surgery twice to try to help. in his case it will never fix it but just help with his appearance. we make light of his eyes as for its no big deal to us. as a matter a fact he helped me pic my avatar :D . usually the eye to look at is the one that has the steady movement. at least for a lazy eye. move to the side of someone thats talking to you (that has a lazy eye) the one that looks you in the eye first is the one to STARE at so you dont get confused:D

[NUTHIN]

Im getting ready to go through the exact same scenario here.
4yr old daughter
Patching hasnt done a thing so far.
They will work on both eye muscles.
I have been paying for all of the visits so far out of my own pocket,she's seeing a highly recommended specialist that doesnt take my insurance.
She only has one eye that has a slight cross at certain times.Doesnt always do it,they thought bi-focals would be the answer but hasnt done anything yet.Surgery has to be done soon.
She is only 4 and isnt scared at all,but too be honest Im pretty nervous about it.Just keep worrying about her and the procedure for some reason.I'll be a complete wreck come day of surgery time.:(
good luck with the surgery! should be fine. the hard part is looking her in the eye afterwards putting the gel in etc.:jawdrop: after a week or SO things really turn around. they loosend my sons eye from behind and threw the eye.. i payed a bit out of my own pocket also. $$ WELL spent.

[Jrocket]

Its only her left eye that is giving her problems.She has full movement of her eye but the muscle is weak and tends to move inward too far when focusing on up close things.She has been to the Dr many many times and has had alot of different lens changes in her glasses.She now has bi-focals and we have been trying the eye patching route but no luck so far.This operation has to be done no matter if insurance or out of my pocket is needed.The Dr has told us the they will do the procedure too both eyes and then exam her again using the prisms to see where se is at,then see might need a foolow up operation to get it perfect.Odd that they cant get it 100% from the get go?She has perfect vision but her right eye is straing to do all of the work,especially when she is tired etc.I mean this kid is spotting planes in the sky and things that even I have to double take at....Amazing what she can do but yet her left eye is just not cooperating with the right.With her glasses on there is very little crossing,but without its not good.She has had this for some time so she doesnt really know what its like not too wear glasses,and she gets alot of compliments on how cute she is in then...but as a parent it is very hard to see your kid,one and only kid at that have to go through any kid of problems.When it comes to discipline I am a very strict dad,probably too strict even,but when it comes to everything else in her life Im the biggest puss out there and she gets the best.She's ok with the operation coming up but Im gonna need a sedative to get me through it!!

[blown65]

I know with our daughter, it wasn't so much them not being confident they could do it right the first time, it was down the road things change and a repeat may be neccessary.
They did get it right the first time. Be confident in your doctor. If you have doubts, get a second opinion. If you want the number to ours, drop me a PM and I'd be more than confident to give it to you. I have 100% faith in our doc.

[Jrocket]

I know with our daughter, it wasn't so much them not being confident they could do it right the first time, it was down the road things change and a repeat may be neccessary.
They did get it right the first time. Be confident in your doctor. If you have doubts, get a second opinion. If you want the number to ours, drop me a PM and I'd be more than confident to give it to you. I have 100% faith in our doc.
We will be getting our 2nd opinion here shortly I hope,and this will also be the Dr doing the operation.Thats if everything falls into place with paperwork and such.
I think your right,it should be correct but might need further work down the road in time.I should have a nice large ulcer from this in no time at all.

[blown65]

ah ok. Ya, when we did the second opinion I felt way better. I was a basket case till that point.
Hope the best for ya.

[Jrocket]

ah ok. Ya, when we did the second opinion I felt way better. I was a basket case till that point.
Hope the best for ya.
Thanks,
I appreciate everyones words on this.
John

[Mrs.Racer277]

What a cutie! Best of luck to you and your daughter. :)