About to join 24hr Fitness...

[Froggystyle]

Any advice? I just went on line to find some online pricing, or hookup prices and came up empty.
Anyone work with them?

[RiverDave]

This thread for the record isn't gay..
I can explain the differences to those that don't get it.
Now if he said..
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone have a great work out schedule they'd like to share?" Well then it would be..
Same thing but with an added twist
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone need a work out partner?" (posted on ***boat) gay as the day is long...
However that same sentance posted on a primarilly female based website (for example if there was one called riverchix.com) well that'd be ingenious... and quite the opposite of gay.
Continue on with your regularly scheduled programming. ;)
RD

[Froggystyle]

How about... "My wife and I are about to join 24 hr fitness so we can get all tantric like Sting and go at it for 12 hours straight without Gatorade or a break." Anyone got any coupons?

[andy01]

How about your a little fater then you used to be and should get your fat ass to the gym...... :)
Good luck on getting a deal. I belong to Ballys and beat on the manager for a deal on my trainer this time around. It went up $100 from last time, he said "I'll get ya two free workouts". That does me no good, I arleady get one free session a week with the two I pay for. The gyms stick it to ya.......
Andy

[andy01]

"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone need a work out partner?"
RD
You should join with Wes, you guys go way back......... Wes can help train your ass, you won't want to drink or smoke when he gets done with ya.
Andy

[selfmade]

Wait till the end of the month, that's when they need to meet quotas and will make you a deal

[AZJD]

RD is GAY!
Good luck on returning to the gym. Let me know if you need any advice, as I am sure we would all love to meet up for a beer at a grossly over populated bar with bad lighting and discuss a workout plan.:D

[Froggystyle]

Yeah, that too...
The home gym, diet, mountain biking and isometrics aren't keeping up anymore. Time to hit it about three times a week. The only way I will do it is to go to a gym. I have a great home gym that only Audrey uses. I just can't bring myself to get spooled up to work out when I get home, and I hate waking up early.

[Froggystyle]

RD is GAY!
Good luck on returning to the gym. Let me know if you need any advice, as I am sure we would all love to meet up for a beer at a grossly over populated bar with bad lighting and discuss a workout plan.:D
This is all just an expensive ruse to give me an opportunity to bring up your guns in conversation...
Fact is, as a team guy we never really did anything right. We just beat down our bodies into submission. I was 160 pounds with a 17 1/2" neck. I also had about a 2% body fat. As soon as I got hurt, the pounds went on until I got up to my normal weight, but now I am at about 11% and want to get down to about 8-9%. Plus, I need more stamina. I went hardcore watersking this weekend and nearly killed myself. I am just beginning to be able to straighten my arms all the way back out.
Time to get my pump on...

[78Eliminator]

Ballys is cheaper and not as crowded and their bathrooms do not all smell like piss like 24hr fitness. You also don't have to wait in line to use their machines.

[Froggystyle]

Ballys is cheaper and not as crowded and their bathrooms do not all smell like piss like 24hr fitness.
There are three 24hr fitness locations in El Cajon. One mile from work, 1.5 miles from work and 2 miles from home.
24hr it is!

[RiverDave]

Well it wasn't gay...
You should join with Wes, you guys go way back......... Wes can help train your ass, you won't want to drink or smoke when he gets done with ya.
Andy
Started gayin up right about here..
RD is GAY!
Good luck on returning to the gym. Let me know if you need any advice, as I am sure we would all love to meet up for a beer at a grossly over populated bar with bad lighting and discuss a workout plan.:D
The thread Officially came out of the closet with this one.
This is all just an expensive ruse to give me an opportunity to bring up your guns in conversation...
Fact is, as a team guy we never really did anything right. We just beat down our bodies into submission. I was 160 pounds with a 17 1/2" neck. I also had about a 2% body fat. As soon as I got hurt, the pounds went on until I got up to my normal weight, but now I am at about 11% and want to get down to about 8-9%. Plus, I need more stamina. I went hardcore watersking this weekend and nearly killed myself. I am just beginning to be able to straighten my arms all the way back out.
Time to get my pump on...
and with the way that just finished off, Richard Simmons will be selling videos in it in no time.
RD

[Jordy]

and with the way that just finished off, Richard Simmons will be selling videos in it in no time.
RD
And with RD's continued interest in these threads, I'm sure he's already on the waiting list for the early release DVD box set. :notam: :D

[78Eliminator]

There are three 24hr fitness locations in El Cajon. One mile from work, 1.5 miles from work and 2 miles from home.
24hr it is!
Well, then you have a shot at one with a clean shit house then.

[socalmofo]

I would go to Valley Athletic Club/Pure Fitness on Jamacha in El Cajon. Alot of high profile people from East County go there. I go there and also get training there. Nice, Clean gym. I have a hookup if you need one. Go to 24hr and then go there, the difference will be clear.

[Danhercules]

I work for the company that builds them. So I can, wait, nevermind I can't to crap for ya exept tell ya where the new ones are going up. LOL sorry.
The new club in Laguna Niguel is huge. Over 65,000 sqft.

[Biglue]

Well, then you have a shot at one with a clean shit house then.
There's all this gay talk going on here and the first thing that comes into your mind is "clean shithouse"? LMAO.

[Froggystyle]

I would go to Valley Athletic Club/Pure Fitness on Jamacha in El Cajon. Alot of high profile people from East County go there. I go there and also get training there. Nice, Clean gym. I have a hookup if you need one. Go to 24hr and then go there, the difference will be clear.
I really like Valley, and worked out there for a while when I first moved here. It isn't open late enough for me though, and it isn't as close to work.
Check your Pm's

[Phat Matt]

This thread for the record isn't gay..
I can explain the differences to those that don't get it.
Now if he said..
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone have a great work out schedule they'd like to share?" Well then it would be..
Same thing but with an added twist
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone need a work out partner?" (posted on ***boat) gay as the day is long...
However that same sentance posted on a primarilly female based website (for example if there was one called riverchix.com) well that'd be ingenious... and quite the opposite of gay.
Continue on with your regularly scheduled programming. ;)
RD
Don't forget if you need somebody to push you. :)

[Phat Matt]

you won't want to drink or smoke when he gets done with ya.
Andy
Where's the fun in that? ;)
I guess you get to die healthy. :D

[Tom Brown]

This thread for the record isn't gay..
Is something bothering you, Dave? Perhaps something is going on in your life you'd like to share with your friends?

[Froggystyle]

Is something bothering you, Dave? Perhaps something is going on in your life you'd like to share with your friends?
Don't judge Brown... he will come out in his own time.
Lot's of sexual tension coming from the RD camp as soon as you start talking about working out though...

[MrsGHT]

We belong to 24 hr and have been for at least eight years. They're running deals right now since it's their anniversary this month. Anyways, we've been happy with them and signed up on some lifetime deal back in the day and we only pay $100/year. Not sure if they have that anymore. :D Although, I failed to mention we had to pay a chunk in the beginning.

[wsuwrhr]

Don't judge Brown... he will come out in his own time.
Lot's of sexual tension coming from the RD camp as soon as you start talking about working out though...
Maybe he has got Olivia Newton John singing to him in his head.

[Tom Brown]

Lot's of sexual tension coming from the RD camp as soon as you start talking about working out though...
I noticed that too. Someone mentions strength training and RD immediately posts about one man ejaculating into another man's ass.

[wsuwrhr]

I noticed that too. Someone mentions strength training and RD immediately posts about one man ejaculating into another man's ass.
Nice visual Tom.
Thanks

[AirtimeLavey]

FS, negotiate hard on what they offer. You'd be surprised at what you can get, just for asking. I have had a membership for years at their flagship gym in Irvine (the one off the 405, w/the glass dome). Very cool place to workout, and that membership gets me into all the others. Good luck. :D

[Mandelon]

Wes, join the biggest most expensive gym you can find and tow a Trident behind your truck, so it can gather onlookers in the parking lot while you bulk up!
My wife and I belong to LA Fitness, I find them less crowded and better smelling.. LOL We pay by the month so if we quit, there's less guilt.

[Lightning]

I workout at 24 hour once a week and go to a small gym twice a week with a trainer. Had a membership forever, still pay $7/month. They are all about the big fee upfront, i guess that's where they make most of the money. From what I hear the YMCA has some really good rates, you may want to check them out.

[EAZYKILLER2006]

Any advice? I just went on line to find some online pricing, or hookup prices and came up empty.
Anyone work with them?
heard its their anniversary special running :confused: i think till the end of the month

[Miss Perfect]

I workout at 24 hour once a week and go to a small gym twice a week with a trainer. Had a membership forever, still pay $7/month. They are all about the big fee upfront, i guess that's where they make most of the money. From what I hear the YMCA has some really good rates, you may want to check them out.
I joined the YMCA. It was $100 up front and $36.00 a month. For those people in San Diego, the YMCA on Friars is awesome. I looked at 24 hr and that YMCA. 24 hr did not hold a candle to it. It has 2 brand new pools and all new equipment. It's not at all what I pictured the YMCA to be.

[Jordy]

It's not at all what I pictured the YMCA to be.
Who's missing??? It's the Indian isn't it??? Bastard is probably hanging out at his casino now and ditched the rest of his crew. :notam: :D

[roostwear]

The wife and I belonged to LA fitness for years, and after the surgeries, I needed to get back in the gym. Problem was, you always have to wait for a machine or treadmill, everyone else is there to be seen, and it's hardly motivational. We found a small local racquetball club/gym with the equipment we knew we needed. It's a gym not a social club... no waiting for machines, benches or treadmills. I get a far better workout there than I would at a corporate club and am in better shape now than any time in the last 10 years. It's nice helping out Scott (the owner and a local) rather than feeding the corp's balance sheet.

[XtrmWakeborder]

Here is the trick I used, talk to the manager right away. The sales people just try to sell you the basic crap and its wayy too expensive. Tell them youll put more money up front for low payments the rest of the time. I got a pass for 530 dollars up front for 36 months, and after that it is 50 dollars a year. Just say your buddy payed 400 and got 50 a year after three years and maybe you can work it from there. Oh yah this was the sport pass good at other clubs too. Good luck!

[AZJD]

The thread Officially came out of the closet with this one.
RD
Dave, contrary to what your friends have told you! It's not cool to have a "Dickie Do!":D :D :D
*That's when your belly stick out further than your Dick do!

[Danhercules]

rather than feeding the corp's balance sheet.
Hey, 24hr pays a good chunk of my check!! LOL :D :)

[BajaMike]

This thread for the record isn't gay..
I can explain the differences to those that don't get it.
Now if he said..
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone have a great work out schedule they'd like to share?" Well then it would be..
Same thing but with an added twist
"About to join 24 hour fitness, anyone need a work out partner?" (posted on ***boat) gay as the day is long...
However that same sentance posted on a primarilly female based website (for example if there was one called riverchix.com) well that'd be ingenious... and quite the opposite of gay.
Continue on with your regularly scheduled programming. ;)
RD
Dave, one of the best posts ever and making this the funniest thread ever.....it just keeps getting better.....:idea:

[Froggystyle]

Pulled the trigger on the 36 month pre-paid last night. After 36 months, we pay $29/year to be members for life. I weaseled them out of 10 1-hour training sessions, a bunch of shwag for Audrey and some other bennies. Plus, I arranged for a reduced rate for everyone who works for me, and the ability for me to add that to their benefits package.
Cost me a little over $600/person up front, but we don't make a payment on it for three years, and these gyms are everywhere around here...
All in all, I think we got a pretty good deal going...
Thanks for all of the advice.
Oh... and the bathrooms didn't smell like piss, and they had the nicest cable pull machines I have ever used.

[Sleek-Jet]

It's a gym not a social club...
Kind of like this place being a boating forum, not a swinger hook-up site... :D

[Lightning]

I joined the YMCA. It was $100 up front and $36.00 a month. For those people in San Diego, the YMCA on Friars is awesome. I looked at 24 hr and that YMCA. 24 hr did not hold a candle to it. It has 2 brand new pools and all new equipment. It's not at all what I pictured the YMCA to be.
My wife goes to that one and the one in Kearny Mesa, she loves it. Not a bunch of "macho macho men" (LMAO) posing in the mirror, way less crowded and better equipment and classes.

[Froggystyle]

OK... that was brutal.
Those cool cable machines I was talking about are called "Freemotion" and they rock.
I got schooled just now. I am going to be sore.
Feels good to be working out hard again though...

[XtrmWakeborder]

Pulled the trigger on the 36 month pre-paid last night. After 36 months, we pay $29/year to be members for life. I weaseled them out of 10 1-hour training sessions, a bunch of shwag for Audrey and some other bennies. Plus, I arranged for a reduced rate for everyone who works for me, and the ability for me to add that to their benefits package.
Cost me a little over $600/person up front, but we don't make a payment on it for three years, and these gyms are everywhere around here...
All in all, I think we got a pretty good deal going...
Thanks for all of the advice.
Oh... and the bathrooms didn't smell like piss, and they had the nicest cable pull machines I have ever used.
Bingo, thats the way to do it.:D

[Boozer]

How about... "My wife and I are about to join 24 hr fitness so we can get all tantric like Sting and go at it for 12 hours straight without Gatorade or a break." Anyone got any coupons?
Isn't that why god made cocaine?
sentance
RD
2 pages now and noone corrected that. I'm surprised.
I joined the YMCA.
You openly admit this??????
Dave, contrary to what your friends have told you! It's not cool to have a "Dickie Do!":D :D :D
*That's when your belly stick out further than your Dick do!
You are WAY to concerned about RD's dicky. I think you've been haging out with Jordy to much and all his "charm" is rubbing off on you. Remember homosexuality is contagious.
Cost me a little over $600/person up front,
You could have bought a hell of a home gym for $1200.
OK... that was brutal.
I got schooled just now. I am going to be sore.
Feels good to be working out hard again though...
I thought this thread went gay when AZJD started talking about RD's d*ck but this post right here...

[THOR]

How about your a little fater then you used to be and should get your fat ass to the gym...... :)
To quote Froggy, RD doesnt live far enough to talk like this.
But, you do Andy. :D

[Froggystyle]

You could have bought a hell of a home gym for $1200.
I have close to $10K into home gym equipment. I never use it. All Precor, all commercial quality. I used the eliptical at home for the first time in years this weekend though. Maybe I will do both.
And BTW... you can't even buy attachments for a "hell of a home gym" for $1200. Ours is really nice but was close to $3K as I recall...

[BarryMac]

If you hit your local 24hour fitness at 3:30 am it's not crowded, no meatheads staring at themselves in the mirrors and the bathrooms still smell clean because the cleaning crews get in at 3:00... 5 Days a week baby, RD wanna come with me some morning? :D :D :D

[Miss Perfect]

You openly admit this??????
Yep, I did. I am assuming that you have not been into one in a while. The one that I go to is NICE and never too crowded where I cannot get on the equipment I want.

[Froggystyle]

Zero chance of me getting up early... I barely make it up at 7:00 as it is.
I am suprised by the lack of crowds at 5:30 pm when we go in. I haven't waited on a single piece of equipment yet.
I am really pleased with the whole 24 fitness thing right now. Great trainers, really good attitude and it seems like everyone is there for the same reason.

[Lightning]

I am really pleased with the whole 24 fitness thing right now. Great trainers, really good attitude and it seems like everyone is there for the same reason.
to check out the chicks on the treadmills ? :confused:

[Froggystyle]

Strange that I haven't seen any ***boaters out there yet... I have been representing! :D

[Froggystyle]

to check out the chicks on the treadmills ? :confused:
Pretty much... BTW, the inner and outer thigh machines are WAY better than the treadmill... ;)
Stairmill is pretty bomb though...

[Froggystyle]

Well, just as a quick follow-up on the gym, since it is such a great conversation starter around here... :D
In a completely heterosexual manner, I figured I could post up the results of the last month and a half of hard training and share some things I have learned.
First, I had more to lose than I thought. I went in back in late June at 199 pounds. Still strong, not really overweight per se, but not ripped either. Three weeks later I bottomed out at 186, but have been pretty consistently losing fat and gaining muscle. So, a net loss of 14 pounds, but quite a bit of muscle gained in that period, so who knows what the fat loss total is.
I have hit the gym every day or worked out with hardly any exceptions. I hired a trainer initially to get me three unique workouts for every muscle group, and so now I have an A, B, and C schedule. If anyone cares, the schedule goes like this...
Monday... Iso-abs warmup with 6 pound ball. Back and Biceps workout, 30 miuntes on eliptiglider, light ab set for finishing
Tuesday... Mountain bike for about 3 hours after work.
Wednesday... Raquetball warmup, legs and shoulders/traps, 30 minute eliptiglider, light ab set.
Thursday... All cardio. 30 minutes on bike with heartrate over 160 (auto regulated resistance) and 30 minutes eliptical. Heavy abdominals with incline situps with heavy ball, hanging leg lifts etc...
Friday... Iso-abs warmup with medicine ball sprints in gym. Chest and triceps, 30 minutes eliptiglider, light ab set.
Saturday... Longer mountain bike ride in AM or Racquetball with Audrey. Stretch PT in afternoon.
Sunday... 2000 yards in pool doing sidestroke, final 200 meters freestyle sprint.
This won't be my maintenance level, but it sure has worked great getting the pounds off and on in the correct ratios. My diet was essentially good, but I have dialed it in and am using the following supplements...
"Mass Recovery" by ABB. Lots of whey protein, BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids) and some glucose for post-workout energy. Seems to really be doing the trick for building size.
NO-Xplode by BSN pre-workout. It is a vaso-dilator to increase blood flow, has a bunch of creatine, argenine and phosphates for helping you purge your system of waste products of working out (lactic acids etc...) and provides your muscles energy to reduce recovery time mid-workout. You drink this 30 minutes prior to working out, mixed with cold water.
Methyl-Vol by EST. This is also taken pre-workout, and does a couple of things I don't understand. It is advertised as a "lean muscle stimulator" that also allows you to better activate the aforementioned Nitric Oxide. Essentially, as it was described to me, as an over 30 year old male, my body is not designed to try and gain size or weight. In fact, reduced testosterone production coupled with, believe it or not... estrogen production will reduce your ability to gain size from working out dramatically. This stuff essentially allows your body to produce more testosterone naturally by preventing estrogen conversion while working out, and gives you the ability to get a lot more out of your lifting workout.
I don't know why they work, but I will promise you that in the last week or so that I have been taking these supplements pre-workout my stamina, strength, size, vascularity and recovery have all improved so dramatically that the guys I ride mountain bikes with have asked frankly if I had started a steroid cycle. I am not a huge believer in supplements, but these have had a profound impact on my results, all for the positive. I have gained an additional 4 pounds net, with an increasing amount of fat loss as well, so I am back up to 190, bigger and more ripped than at 186. As a single example of strength gains, after 20 something days of lifting I was decline-pressing a max of 155 or so for 8 reps at the end of my sets... a 45 and a 10 on each side. Last night, I put up 275 for 8 reps. That is two 45's and a 25 on each side. A big part of that gain was obviously my muscles getting back into the swing of lifting, but the amount of weight I have piled on since getting on these supplements is pretty profound.
Just sharing results... They have worked for me, and I couldn't be any happier to be back in the gym and getting into shape. Audrey is just plain turning into a sledgehammer now, with all of her cuts coming recently and finally putting on some size in her arms and shoulders. You can thank Trish for her new "ideal" set of abs, but she isn't quite there yet. Justin, expect a question or two from Audrey about what Trish's secrets are... :D
Another month or so and I will be ready for all of the before and after pics. I think the difference will be pretty astounding for three months though...
Have a great weekend, see some of you in Havasu tomorrow!
Wes

[USCFAN]

Those are some pretty impressive results.. Congrats.

[Cigalert]

Good job froggy. It sounds like you're to the point where you're starting to not only feel but see the gains and that's when it becomes more enjoyable than "work". It also sounds like someone set you on the right path regarding diet. One thing that helped me out a ton....your muscles aren't telling you they're tired...your head is. Keep going....that's the hardest part.

[Froggystyle]

Congrats on your results. You and Audrey obviously don't have kids. ;)
Clearly. This is one of the reasons too... :D

[Froggystyle]

One thing that helped me out a ton....your muscles aren't telling you they're tired...your head is. Keep going....that's the hardest part.
I was a SEAL for seven years... if there is one thing in life I know how to do it is push through pain and resistance... :D

[bohica]

Almost as good as my results. Started riding the exercise bike 3 months ago. When I first started, I could barely finish 1 beer. 3 months later and I'm up to a 6 pack.:D

[Froggystyle]

Give us idea of your diet.
Where did you get the supplements?
Coffee in the morning, no sugar and an English Muffin with peanut butter first thing. We will barbeque or cook some form of meat the night before, chicken, beef or fish and have it with steamed rice at lunchtime. I never leave here for lunch, so that was the toughest to crack... cooking the night before seems to have solved that for me. If I am hungry still, I will drink a 20 oz. Mass Recovery with lunch. Pre-workout I have the aforementioned NO-Xplode with Methyl-Vol (two tablets) and bring a 32 oz Cytomax drink to the gym to drink while working out. Post workout I drink another Mass Recovery and go eat dinner. We rarely cook ourselves for dinner, but if we do it will be meat barbequed or grilled with rice, bread or otherwise. I hate veggies, but Audrey loves them, and she isn't eating any carbs after working out at all. She will substitute broccolli or asparagus for rice or bread. If we eat out, I will usually eat Pasta, steak or meat with potatoes, rice or bread. We eat a lot of sushi lately... at least twice a week. For me, it will be mostly tuna sashimi (maguro) and a terriyaki bowl of chicken or beef. I hardly eat any cheese or fats any more, but if I do it will be a garnish, not a main component. No more quesadillas, pizzas or anything like that. We cut out deserts completely, and I have stopped getting mocha's from Starbucks and have switched to iced brewed coffee with half and half, no sweetener.
Aud is taking a designer protein in the morning mixed with soy milk (I can't stand that stuff) and Ripped Fuel right at 8:00 or so. She has shown so much dermal fat loss it is unbelievable. Tough to tell if it is the increased cardio or the no carbs after 6:00 pm, but it is working.
It isn't the greatest diet, but we aren't having a problem sticking to it to speak of. What is tough is travelling and having to deal with eating on the road.
I have been getting all of my supplements from a local guy named Nash who owns Pro-Body warehouse here in El Cajon. He has been price-matching internet deals for me with shipping considered. I am happy to keep the business local.

[Froggystyle]

I was a force recon Marine for nine. I'm find my pain and resistance is bumping on the limiter at 41. :( I walked/ran 4 miles the other day in 35 minutes and I thought I was going to puke.
I can appreciate that. I have been burning about 540 calories in 30 minutes on the eliptiglider. That is pushing pretty hard. My AVERAGE heart rate when I started was 176, peaking at 210 or so... I hit 213 once. I felt like my heart was going to explode...
Since really focusing on cardio, I have dropped the average to 155 while still burning the same amount of calories or more, with a max HR of only 190 or so during sprints. I can really tell on the mountain bike though.

[BIGRRNU]

hey Wes ~ Are you going to Havi this weekend? My daughter and hubby came by your shop on Sun. She'd love to check out your boat on the water. And hey thanks alot, hubby saw the cut down on Starbucks mochas and thats what I live on, so ya you suck.

[Froggystyle]

hey Wes ~ Are you going to Havi this weekend? My daughter and hubby came by your shop on Sun. She'd love to check out your boat on the water. And hey thanks alot, hubby saw the cut down on Starbucks mochas and thats what I live on, so ya you suck.
Yes we are. PM me your number...
Starbucks Mocha... nutritional info... the numbers to pay attention to are the 450 calories, 200 of them from fat. 22 fat grams, 53 grams of carbohydrates. You are better off drinking soda.
Venti Mocha, 2% milk. Serving Size 20 fl. oz.
Calories 450
Fat Calories 200
Total Fat (g) 22
Saturated Fat (g) 12
Trans Fat (g) 0.5
Cholesterol (mg) 65
Sodium (mg) 170
Total Carbohydrates (g) 53
Fiber (g) 2
Sugars (g) 41
Protein (g) 17
Vitamin A 15%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 50%
Iron 25%
Caffeine (mg) 180
Here is what I switched to... Take out the 31 grams of pure sugar in this and you have essentially zero calories, 265 mg of caffeine and a small amount of fat from creamer. It will get you through the day, and is infinitely better for you than the mochas.
Calories 130
Fat Calories 0
Total Fat (g) 0
Saturated Fat (g) 0
Trans Fat (g) 0
Cholesterol (mg) 0
Sodium (mg) 10
Total Carbohydrates (g) 31
Fiber (g) 0
Sugars (g) 31
Protein (g) 0
Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0%
Iron 0%
Caffeine (mg) 265

[River Lynchmob]

Any advice? I just went on line to find some online pricing, or hookup prices and came up empty.
Anyone work with them?
I didn't read all the posts but just signed up on Tuesday and did the prepay deal. It was $800 for three years ($265/year) and then $29 a year for every year after that for life...pretty good deal I thought.

[rrrr]

I didn't read all the posts but just signed up on Tuesday and did the prepay deal. It was $800 for three years ($265/year) and then $29 a year for every year after that for life...pretty good deal I thought.
You can get in shape chasing Bally's for your money after they close down.....:D :D
Bally Total Fitness files Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Wednesday August 1, 9:02 am ET
By Jonathan Stempel
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bally Total Fitness Holding Corp (Other OTC:BFTH.PK - News), one of the largest U.S. health club operators, has filed for bankruptcy protection, after struggling in recent years with membership declines and too much debt.
The Chicago-based company and more than 40 affiliates filed for Chapter 11 protection from creditors on Tuesday with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan.
Bally listed $396.8 million of assets and $761.3 million of debts as of December 31, court papers show.
The company said the reorganization process will not affect memberships or operations at its more than 375 health clubs. It also intends to keep paying employees and vendors.
Bally will seek approval of a "prepackaged" reorganization plan supported by holders of much of two bond issues.
It said the plan would reduce debt by $150 million and provide $90 million of capital through a rights offering backed by affiliates of Anschutz Investment Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc (NYSE:GS - News) and Tennenbaum Capital Partners LLC. Existing stockholders would receive nothing for their shares, Bally has said.
Bally also said it lined up $292 million of financing to fund operations during and after bankruptcy proceedings. It hopes to emerge from Chapter 11 "as promptly as possible."
Bally has struggled in recent years to attract new members, and in March said it expected continued membership declines through at least 2008.
Among the affiliates that are reorganizing is Jack LaLanne Holding Corp., named for the fitness and nutritional expert, court papers show.
Bally said Jefferies & Co. and the law firm Latham & Watkins LLP are advising it on the bankruptcy process. It said a committee of bondholders retained Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin Capital and the law firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP as advisers.
Shares of Bally closed Tuesday at 41 cents on the Pink Sheets.

[Froggystyle]

I didn't read all the posts but just signed up on Tuesday and did the prepay deal. It was $800 for three years ($265/year) and then $29 a year for every year after that for life...pretty good deal I thought.
Pretty much what I got, but for a bit less since I also signed up four guys who work for me on a corporate program.
We went through the whole "solutions" program and I essentially skipped all the BS and said... "Spend your time giving me three different programs for the following three groups". I left with a great, rounded workout that will always keep the body guessing.
BTW, if you do the solutions program you are going to find, much to your suprise I am sure, that you eat too much fat, not enough protein and need to cut way back on the carbs. Shocker, huh? :D
All of this stuff is pretty basic, but organizing the schedule and workouts has helped me a great deal.

[rrrr]

I hate organized people. :mad:
:D

[River Lynchmob]

Pretty much what I got, but for a bit less since I also signed up four guys who work for me on a corporate program.
We went through the whole "solutions" program and I essentially skipped all the BS and said... "Spend your time giving me three different programs for the following three groups". I left with a great, rounded workout that will always keep the body guessing.
BTW, if you do the solutions program you are going to find, much to your suprise I am sure, that you eat too much fat, not enough protein and need to cut way back on the carbs. Shocker, huh? :D
All of this stuff is pretty basic, but organizing the schedule and workouts has helped me a great deal.
For the most part I have the diet down (sister has her masters in nutrition)...well during the week I do, the weekend, unfortunately is a different story have head out to a bar/river/restaurant have about 8 too many cocktails and eat whatever is in front of you. Work hard all week and loose most of it on the weekend...the circle of life. :mad:

[Hallett19]

I talked the guy down to $700 for 3 years and I got $100 worth of suplements and books.

[GETSOME]

"Mass Recovery" by ABB. Lots of whey protein, BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids) and some glucose for post-workout energy. Seems to really be doing the trick for building size.
NO-Xplode by BSN pre-workout. It is a vaso-dilator to increase blood flow, has a bunch of creatine, argenine and phosphates for helping you purge your system of waste products of working out (lactic acids etc...) and provides your muscles energy to reduce recovery time mid-workout. You drink this 30 minutes prior to working out, mixed with cold water.
Methyl-Vol by EST. This is also taken pre-workout, and does a couple of things I don't understand. It is advertised as a "lean muscle stimulator" that also allows you to better activate the aforementioned Nitric Oxide. Essentially, as it was described to me, as an over 30 year old male, my body is not designed to try and gain size or weight. In fact, reduced testosterone production coupled with, believe it or not... estrogen production will reduce your ability to gain size from working out dramatically. This stuff essentially allows your body to produce more testosterone naturally by preventing estrogen conversion while working out, and gives you the ability to get a lot more out of your lifting workout.
I don't know why they work, but I will promise you that in the last week or so that I have been taking these supplements pre-workout my stamina, strength, size, vascularity and recovery have all improved so dramatically that the guys I ride mountain bikes with have asked frankly if I had started a steroid cycle. I am not a huge believer in supplements, but these have had a profound impact on my results, all for the positive. I have gained an additional 4 pounds net, with an increasing amount of fat loss as well, so I am back up to 190, bigger and more ripped than at 186. As a single example of strength gains, after 20 something days of lifting I was decline-pressing a max of 155 or so for 8 reps at the end of my sets... a 45 and a 10 on each side. Last night, I put up 275 for 8 reps. That is two 45's and a 25 on each side. A big part of that gain was obviously my muscles getting back into the swing of lifting, but the amount of weight I have piled on since getting on these supplements is pretty profound.
Just sharing results... They have worked for me, and I couldn't be any happier to be back in the gym and getting into shape. Audrey is just plain turning into a sledgehammer now, with all of her cuts coming recently and finally putting on some size in her arms and shoulders. You can thank Trish for her new "ideal" set of abs, but she isn't quite there yet. Justin, expect a question or two from Audrey about what Trish's secrets are... :D
Another month or so and I will be ready for all of the before and after pics. I think the difference will be pretty astounding for three months though...
Have a great weekend, see some of you in Havasu tomorrow!
Wes
Your getting alot of the energy from the No-Xplode because the amount of caffine you are getting per dose. There are much better ways to get creatine intake then that over priced product. Sure you feel great for the first 2-3 weeks until your body gets used to the amount of caffine in the supplement but it will rocket down fast.
Too me the Nitric Oxide/vaso-dilator do not work. You are best off with a good clean protien. And a good healthy diet filled with protien. Chicken, tuna,egg whites Etc. And stay away from the soy stuff it just bean juice. Hit the protien very hard and you will see results with a good diet.
I know it may be hard for alot of people but cutting the beer and soda help alot too.

[Froggystyle]

Your getting alot of the energy from the No-Xplode because the amount of caffine you are getting per dose. There are much better ways to get creatine intake then that over priced product. Sure you feel great for the first 2-3 weeks until your body gets used to the amount of caffine in the supplement but it will rocket down fast.
Too me the Nitric Oxide/vaso-dilator do not work. You are best off with a good clean protien. And a good healthy diet filled with protien. Chicken, tuna,egg whites Etc. And stay away from the soy stuff it just bean juice. Hit the protien very hard and you will see results with a good diet.
I know it may be hard for alot of people but cutting the beer and soda help alot too.
I don't know if you took a look at my diet, but essentially all I am eating is caffeine and protein. Essentially, all of my carbs are complex carbs, and I am not knowingly eating ANY saturated fat.
That said, the performance doesn't lie. If my body isn't used to two venti coffee's with 250mg of caffeine in them per by now, it won't be.
Not advocating, just stating that my results have been nothing short of stellar. Much better endurance, bigger size, better resistance to failure and greatly decreased recovery time. Basically everything the guy said it would do.

[GETSOME]

I don't know if you took a look at my diet, but essentially all I am eating is caffeine and protein. Essentially, all of my carbs are complex carbs, and I am not knowingly eating ANY saturated fat.
That said, the performance doesn't lie. If my body isn't used to two venti coffee's with 250mg of caffeine in them per by now, it won't be.
Not advocating, just stating that my results have been nothing short of stellar. Much better endurance, bigger size, better resistance to failure and greatly decreased recovery time. Basically everything the guy said it would do.
I am not saying your not seeing results but you will hit a point where the No-Xplode will not feel the "rush" . I have wasted alot of money on supplements just dont get caught up with what the salesman has to offer. And also remember working out is 20% of you diet and eating right is 78% and the expensive supplements are 1-2%. You have probably spent close to $100 dollars in alot of caffine with color and a small dose of creatine. You can get creatine and protien in a raw form that is really cheap. That will get you better results. But to each there own and if you are happy your happy.

[Froggystyle]

I am not saying your not seeing results but you will hit a point where the No-Xplode will not feel the "rush" . I have wasted alot of money on supplements just dont get caught up with what the salesman has to offer. And also remember working out is 20% of you diet and eating right is 78% and the expensive supplements are 1-2%. You have probably spent close to $100 dollars in alot of caffine with color and a small dose of creatine. You can get creatine and protien in a raw form that is really cheap. That will get you better results. But to each there own and if you are happy your happy.
I spent $35 on the NO-Xplode. Came with a bunch of other stuff too as a trial kit I guess.
Do you know anything about the Methyl-Vol?

[GETSOME]

I spent $35 on the NO-Xplode. Came with a bunch of other stuff too as a trial kit I guess.
Do you know anything about the Methyl-Vol?
I have not heard anything about Methyl-Vol..
Just make sure you cycle on and off the No-Xplode dont stay on it for more then 4 weeks and you will see better results.
You have a great workout plan set up.. You will see the results you just have to stick too it. There is a 80% fall out with people not sticking to the diet/ exercise program.

[RP2]

Coffee in the morning, no sugar and an English Muffin with peanut butter first thing. We will barbeque or cook some form of meat the night before, chicken, beef or fish and have it with steamed rice at lunchtime. I never leave here for lunch, so that was the toughest to crack... cooking the night before seems to have solved that for me. If I am hungry still, I will drink a 20 oz. Mass Recovery with lunch. Pre-workout I have the aforementioned NO-Xplode with Methyl-Vol (two tablets) and bring a 32 oz Cytomax drink to the gym to drink while working out. Post workout I drink another Mass Recovery and go eat dinner. We rarely cook ourselves for dinner, but if we do it will be meat barbequed or grilled with rice, bread or otherwise. I hate veggies, but Audrey loves them, and she isn't eating any carbs after working out at all. She will substitute broccolli or asparagus for rice or bread. If we eat out, I will usually eat Pasta, steak or meat with potatoes, rice or bread. We eat a lot of sushi lately... at least twice a week. For me, it will be mostly tuna sashimi (maguro) and a terriyaki bowl of chicken or beef. I hardly eat any cheese or fats any more, but if I do it will be a garnish, not a main component. No more quesadillas, pizzas or anything like that. We cut out deserts completely, and I have stopped getting mocha's from Starbucks and have switched to iced brewed coffee with half and half, no sweetener.
Aud is taking a designer protein in the morning mixed with soy milk (I can't stand that stuff) and Ripped Fuel right at 8:00 or so. She has shown so much dermal fat loss it is unbelievable. Tough to tell if it is the increased cardio or the no carbs after 6:00 pm, but it is working.
It isn't the greatest diet, but we aren't having a problem sticking to it to speak of. What is tough is travelling and having to deal with eating on the road.
I have been getting all of my supplements from a local guy named Nash who owns Pro-Body warehouse here in El Cajon. He has been price-matching internet deals for me with shipping considered. I am happy to keep the business local.
Much different froma couple of years ago when you argued that Atkins was the only way and we (humans) don't need bad carbs like bread and pasta... glad you have seen the light;)

[Froggystyle]

Much different froma couple of years ago when you argued that Atkins was the only way and we (humans) don't need bad carbs like bread and pasta... glad you have seen the light;)
Actually, the first two weeks I did this I was in the induction/initial phase of Atkins but I just couldn't process body fat fast enough to support the physical exercise I am doing right now. It is a big reason I dropped so much fat so quickly.
Especially if you can't work out as hard as I am right now, I believe that Atkins is hands down the most effective way to lose fat... period. I was only trying to cut a little fat, mostly I was trying to get cut and ripped, so you need an aggressive cardio program to do that.
As an example of how hard I ride the mountain bike, the calorie counter on it indicated I burned almost 2,000 calories on Monday's ride. Probably true, as I will burn 540 in half an hour on the eliptical, and I rode for 3.5 hours. You absolutely can't support that with ketosis alone. I bonked huge on a ride until I slammed down some Gu, and have greatly limited my carbs since then, as you can see by the diet, and only complex carbs at that.
The longest I have ever been on Atkins was 2.5 weeks in any case. That was enough to drop me to 7% body fat from 12%, and I never really gained it back. Thanks to Atikins I have become a ton more aware of bad carbs in foods like soda and processed deserts, and never really developed a sweet tooth after going through Atkins the first time.
I see it as one more tool in the box.