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Wake Havasu
07-24-2007, 05:45 PM
Is now a good time to talk about Offshore boats on the Parker Strip?
It's been a few months since the most recent bad accident and a few months before the next one.
What do you guys think about offshore boats on an irrigation ditch thats at most one hundred yards wide?
regards,
The Spoon.

Jbb
07-24-2007, 05:47 PM
My opinion...................RD SUX!

Jordy
07-24-2007, 05:50 PM
I've seen some jackasses in rollbar boats putting out more of a wake in that "irrigation ditch" than people in offshore boats who know how to drive... :idea:
Oh, and I must concur with The Jbb: RD SUX!!! :D

Havasu1986
07-24-2007, 06:03 PM
That boat that crashed was hardly an "offshore" boat. Before that, it had been years since we had a serious accident in Parker. Years.
And, most of Parker is way more than 100 yards wide. We were talking about how wide it was at little sandbar this weekend. It's an easy 2 iron across to Sundance.
Thats old school...It would be a hybrid club now. :D

TCHB
07-24-2007, 06:05 PM
Anytime you mix powered equipment and stupid people you will have trouble.
It is not the boat it is the person driving.

riverbound
07-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Why would "offshore boats" be singled out???
Size?
speed?
wake?
In all reality I have more issues with PWCs than anyhting on the strip. EVERY weekend I go out I get cut off by at least 1 young kid jetting straight out to the other side without even looking who is coming his/her way. Then there are the oh so lovely ones that are putting along and then without even looking do a 360 right on front of me.
If you are referencing the accident a couple months ago, Im pretty sure that it wa a mechanical failure that cased the accident, not type or size fo the boat. I know of quite a few boats in the strip that if something failed at speed, things would go bad:( most likely really bad, and the boats Im thinking of are no longer than 22'

LuckyStrike
07-24-2007, 06:12 PM
My Boats Been Up and Down ...Where Were YOU:idea: ...Like Jordy Says, Depends On the A-Hole:eek: :D

Boatcop
07-24-2007, 06:17 PM
Why would "offshore boats" be singled out???
Size?
speed?
wake?
In all reality I have more issues with PWCs than anyhting on the strip. EVERY weekend I go out I get cut off by at least 1 young kid jetting straight out to the other side without even looking who is coming his/her way. Then there are the oh so lovely ones that are putting along and then without even looking do a 360 right on front of me.
If you are referencing the accident a couple months ago, Im pretty sure that it wa a mechanical failure that cased the accident, not type or size fo the boat. I know of quite a few boats in the strip that if something failed at speed, things would go bad:( most likely really bad, and the boats Im thinking of are no longer than 22'
No mechanical failure involved.

MBlaster
07-24-2007, 06:22 PM
Im more scared of the stereo broadcasting wakeboard boats with 12 people on them, and what looks like a 16 year old driving. :eek:

RiverToysJas
07-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Why are the "offshore boats" wrecking your giant wake boarding wake? :rolleyes:
RTJas :D

Daytona100
07-24-2007, 06:30 PM
How big is to big? I have a 25 and havn,t had any problems. Mike:idea:

GunninGopher
07-24-2007, 06:37 PM
To put it simply, I'd rather deal with the boats than deal with the laws that restrict them.
I have a 19' mini cruiser jet and Parker is where I find myself going more and more. I'm actually here right now. We came in last Thursday. I don't go out on Saturday and on Fri, Sun, and Mon, come in by about 2:00 or so.
Mostly the reason is for the big boats but it is also because I have kids. Like I said, I'd rather deal with that than a bunch of more restrictions. Oh yeah, If I wasn't always with the kids I'd definitely be out on Saturday, and might take it later, too.

GunninGopher
07-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Oh yeah and my biggest gripe isn't the guy in the 28' Lavey Deckboat. It is the guy with 2 tons of water loaded in his Tige doing 15. There is little I can do about the chaos that a-hole sends behind him.
If there is anything to be done it isn't a law it is enforecement. Check those f'rs out and see if they are over burdened.

DILLIGAF
07-24-2007, 06:41 PM
I have had my 29 out at Parker. Was hesitant about it bit had no problems and didn't cause any either.

RiverToysJas
07-24-2007, 06:42 PM
Oh yeah and my biggest gripe isn't the guy in the 28' Lavey Deckboat.
We've been gripping about Boatnam for years anyway....it doesn't do any good. :rolleyes: :D
RTJas :D

MBlaster
07-24-2007, 06:48 PM
:D :D Anything larger than 24' is offshore huge !!!!!!!!!:D :D Parker Strip new max length 24':D :D Flatbottoms rejoice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and no cats or wake boats either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
HUFFPOWER For Dictator.

Pro Max
07-24-2007, 07:24 PM
I think the wost thing is Wakeboard boats and personal watercraft, If they were gone I bet the river would be a lot better place !!!!!!

Riverkid
07-24-2007, 07:28 PM
Pro Max for dictator.
Bingo.

coolchange
07-24-2007, 07:33 PM
1st round pairs up at Buckskin, Winners round the corner pair up at Echo lodge, semi finals at Foxs. Final round to Bluewater up river full 1/4 mile. Man you're makin me jones for the old days!

GunninGopher
07-24-2007, 07:56 PM
You should bring your kids out to the little sandbar on a Saturday sometime. There's lots of smaller boat there and your kids will have a blast playing with all the other kids all day long. We practically have to drag our kids home at dusk.
SWB, I probably was there the same time as you. The little sandbar is the one across from Sundance, right? I have a 79 Charger mini-cruiser (brown and white) and I have the white dog that chases ducks and fetches anything you throw into the river.
The funny thing is today was the first time we ever stayed out there past 3:00. We got a late start today because we took a trip out to some 'ghost town' about 45 minutes NE of Parker. It was a fun drive and a good way to break up a week away from home. At the sandbar I ran into some guys that I knew from high school, and Ms. GG got along good with their wives and their kids got along good with ours.
We pulled stakes from the sandbar at about 5:30 and if any of us had packed food for the kids I think we all would have stayed until about 7:00 or so. The river was just perfect today. Really what it is all about, old friends, no stress, great weather and a good vibe.
Most of the time it starts to get a little dicey and my old lady doesn't drink like she used to and I don't drink much if at all on the water these days so we pack it in around lunchtime most days and go hang by the pool.
I don't like getting beat up with the big wakes, but I think my rig could handle it better if I went ahead and got some new seats and put a jet-o-vater on it. I just only have about 5K into this boat and for once it is nice to have into a boat/trailer what I can get out of it. Not to many guys can say that.

OCMerrill
07-24-2007, 08:07 PM
To put it simply, I'd rather deal with the boats than deal with the laws that restrict them.
I have a 19' mini cruiser jet and Parker is where I find myself going more and more. I'm actually here right now. We came in last Thursday. I don't go out on Saturday and on Fri, Sun, and Mon, come in by about 2:00 or so.
Mostly the reason is for the big boats but it is also because I have kids. Like I said, I'd rather deal with that than a bunch of more restrictions. Oh yeah, If I wasn't always with the kids I'd definitely be out on Saturday, and might take it later, too.
We don't go to the mini sandbar all that much but were out from sun-up to whenever....everytime. I was raised Parker Strip...and my kids are following along. I don't have a big boat either and if one blows past I will wave not expecting one back either:rolleyes: , slow up a bit, then go again when things smooth out. It's just the river.
I dislike the lice as much as the next guy but the single trend I don't care for much is the "I'm Mr. Tough Guy with my 4 drunk buddies" mentality that is on the rise. This will drive me away eventually. Mid week is perfect and Monday's rock. We usually go Thursday and come home crack of dawn on the following Tuesday. So mid week is no issue. Nighttime boat rides midweek ROCK.
One thing though is were on the hook all day Saturday. So if were motor-homing at Echo, River Lodge, Castle Rock, or just folded out onto the beach at the Bluewater that is the day we just soak it in.
Everything I said though is not true because the Parker Strip is no longer open!:D

XtrmWakeborder
07-24-2007, 08:13 PM
It's not the offshore boats or the wakeboard boats. It's the god damn mexicans on the PWCs. Period.:D Oh not racist, but it's true these days.

GunninGopher
07-24-2007, 08:31 PM
Stop by and say hi sometime. I'm always parked in the same exact place, one or two spaces upriver from Taco Bill.
Now here is a Parker Newbee story:
The previous trips we had just gone to the south end of Buckskin to hang out, but we got kicked out the last time (July '05) we had been there because we had a dog.
Fast forward to April '06, we were just cruising up at about 9 or 10 AM and saw that place and said "that looks pretty cool". After we anchored we were a little concerned because we saw some dirt bike tracks and made the kids stay away from the spot that these days they now get wet and slide down.
Still concerned about the dirt bike tracks, wifey makes us anchor further down river. Come about 11:00 some dude comes up, and sets anchor right next to us. I didn't know what to think except that I wasn't the one who knew what was up. He fires up a grill and starts setting up some signs and a bunch of other stuff.
I said, "dang, I'm fat and all, but I hope he doesn't expect to make much money on me!!". We went ahead and bought lunch from him and as it turns out he is always there (I ended up asking him his story as he made our lunch) but we spent about an hour going "why is this dude rught here all up in our business?"
We bought some ice cream from him sunday and I'll never forget the newbie lesson I got on that one. I have at least 1 other Parker Newbie lesson that involves leaving my old Pontoon overnight at Buckskin.

blown65
07-24-2007, 08:37 PM
LOL, I'm screwed. If one dont hate me its another. Got the offshore boat, wakeboard boat, and a PWC. I better stay home. :O

OCMerrill
07-24-2007, 08:39 PM
Now here is a Parker Newbee story:
I got on that one. I have at least 1 other Parker Newbie lesson that involves leaving my old Pontoon overnight at Buckskin.
Do tell.......

bordsmnj
07-24-2007, 08:43 PM
nope. pretty sure it's the wake board boats.:D

MRS FLYIN VEE
07-24-2007, 08:46 PM
I have had my 29 out at Parker. Was hesitant about it bit had no problems and didn't cause any either.
Ditto..:D

GunninGopher
07-24-2007, 08:51 PM
Do tell.......
Come to find out that Thursday afternoon water levels may vary. Luckily, the folks we were hanging with had a daughter that knew my wife as a teacher and they gave us a ride back to Emerald Cove. We drove back around and unloaded the boat and anchored it really good.
At least I got one the the best quote's ever out of my son. We had bought pizza up river at I don't remember where, and had some leftovers. To unload the boat we had to drive over to Buckskin and the rangers were cool about letting us unload the boat. My son was about 4 and helping out and while carrying up the leftovers (at about 6 PM) says "this pizza is smelling awfully good to me right now!". You better believe he ate as much as he wanted to on the drive back.
Sitting here I can't remember if it was a Thursday afternoon or not, but whatever day it was, at the time, everyone said "oh no duh, it happens every week". I just sold the GD'md pontoon and bought a boat that I am more comfortable in and keep it anchored off shore.

River Lynchmob
07-25-2007, 08:11 AM
I agree with what most are saying here...PWC and the wakeboat boats that throw biger wakes than a 42 Fountain. I dont have a problem with the tourny style boats but when they load them up with water and the wedge the wakes are huge and do a nice job slamming the boats around that are docked...but far and away it's the jack a$$es on the PWC that cause more problem than anyone out there.

riverbound
07-25-2007, 08:13 AM
I agree with what most are saying here...PWC and the wakeboat boats that throw biger wakes than a 42 Fountain. I dont have a problem with the tourny style boats but when they load them up with water and the wedge the wakes are huge and do a nice job slamming the boats around that are docked...but far and away it's the jack a$$es on the PWC that cause more problem than anyone out there.
And Jackas$es in Hallets ;)

River Lynchmob
07-25-2007, 08:27 AM
And Jackas$es in Hallets ;)
They are a$$es I prefer people who drive Schiadas :D
But my personal pet peeve are guys in cowboy hats that drive stokers...I think that narrows it down to oh lets say...1 :D :D :D

SHAWNINATOR
07-25-2007, 08:32 AM
go to havasu. let the strip be what it used to be about.

Cole Trickle
07-25-2007, 08:39 AM
Most of the boats don't bother me with the exception of the rookies that like to throw huge waves while your tied to a dock.
The PWC are flat out terrible. I don't think I could count the amount that I have had to avoid.
Last year I had a guy on a stand up shoot out from a cove and jump the wake of a boat in front of me. We were probably running 50 mph and the lead boat was 100 yards ahead when this yahoo aired it out and wiped. If I wasn't paying attention or expecting it things could have gone bad.
Also whats the deal with the retards on rental skis doing full speed passes in front of the casino in the no wake zone.We were anchored and two girls were racing around boats for what seemed like hours with no police interaction:( :eek:

Riverguy92345
07-25-2007, 11:24 AM
Silly boys...Its not the big boats or even the PWC's that are causing the problem. There just isn't enought topless women to go around..Lets try harder please...lol..Everyone knows i am doing more then my share.:)

goneboatin
07-25-2007, 12:36 PM
Also whats the deal with the retards on rental skis doing full speed passes in front of the casino in the no wake zone.We were anchored and two girls were racing around boats for what seemed like hours with no police interaction:( :eek:
I talked to an AZ Sheriff and he told me that the Indians get upset when they write up tickets in the no-wake area in front of the casino, but when the wakeboard demos are going on, the Indians want the sheriffs to write up people making wakes. :confused: The Indians can't even monitor the launch ramp at Blue Water or do anything that involves getting out their golf carts. If the area in front of the casino is a no-wake area, then it should be a no wake area for everybody - no exceptions for wake board demos; they can go out past the bouys like everyone else!
Getting back to the original post: It's not the offshore boats - it's the attitude that "my boat is bigger so get out of my way", the wakeboard boats putting out the humongus wakes near docks / river's edge with their mega watt stereos that you can hear for miles, and of course, the PWC's with fat broads (including all idiots) on them that drive with their heads up their butts.

riverbound
07-25-2007, 12:41 PM
They are a$$es I prefer people who drive Schiadas :D
But my personal pet peeve are guys in cowboy hats that drive stokers...I think that narrows it down to oh lets say...1 :D :D :D
I guess I will have to actually start driving my Stoker again so I can make it 2 :D :D

Wake Havasu
07-25-2007, 01:45 PM
I've seen some jackasses in rollbar boats putting out more of a wake in that "irrigation ditch" than people in offshore boats who know how to drive... :idea:
Oh, and I must concur with The Jbb: RD SUX!!! :D
Yeah but you post a link to any threads in which one has crashed into shore?
JUST ONE.

Cole Trickle
07-25-2007, 01:48 PM
Yeah but you post a link to any threads in which one has crashed into shore?
JUST ONE.
You have no idea what you just started;):D

JET-O-VATOR
07-25-2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah but you post a link to any threads in which one has crashed into shore?
JUST ONE.
oh no not good

BajaMike
07-25-2007, 02:08 PM
Just as a funny memory regarding off-shore boats....anyone remember after OP6 a few years ago and some guy in a big Fountain beached it next to Roadrunner at about 20 mph....thing ended up about halfway out of the water.:idea:
After a chick fight and another fight and all kinds of pushing and shoving and about 3 boats pulling he finally got it out of there.........:jawdrop:
That was a wild incident to watch......:D

Wake Havasu
07-25-2007, 02:09 PM
No mechanical failure involved.
Boatcop.
Didnt a boat do a high speed carsh last summer on Parker as well?
Broke apart as I recall on a thread thread here at ***boat. The usual "Dont draw conclusion posts" were all over the thread as well.
HB has purged last years threads so I cannot verify this.

Wake Havasu
07-25-2007, 02:15 PM
You have no idea what you just started;):D
I Know!
'Tis why I signed it "The spoon".
If you cannot take the heat put the beer down and go inside!

BajaMike
07-25-2007, 02:16 PM
.....had no problems and didn't cause any either......
That's funny, Tom!:D

Boatcop
07-25-2007, 02:28 PM
I talked to an AZ Sheriff and he told me that the Indians get upset when they write up tickets in the no-wake area in front of the casino, but when the wakeboard demos are going on, the Indians want the sheriffs to write up people making wakes. :confused: The Indians can't even monitor the launch ramp at Blue Water or do anything that involves getting out their golf carts. If the area in front of the casino is a no-wake area, then it should be a no wake area for everybody - no exceptions for wake board demos; they can go out past the bouys like everyone else!
Don't know about all that. We'll write tickets anywhere we want to. Indian Casino or no Indian Casino.
The reason we don't patrol down on the Res, has nothing to do with the Tribes not wanting us there. It has to do with a 12 mile stretch of River, and not spending all day in 1/2 mile of it, writing No Wake Tickets for a non-taxpaying entity, and neglecting the rest of the River.
The Wake Board Demos are permitted events by the US Coast Guard, and sponsored by the Casino. They make a ton of money off those wake boarders in room, food and gambling. Same as they do for the Circle Races and other events down there.

Wake Havasu
07-25-2007, 02:50 PM
http://***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68839&highlight=Parker+accident
http://***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53331&highlight=Parker+accident

Nord
07-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Parker has its fair share of accidents..........
About 5-6 years ago, the guy who owned the boat Overkill, was heading back in a friends boat from Roadrunner. They crashed all killed.......onshore.
either last year, or the year before, a red something or other also crashed into the big rock that goes into the water just north of the Keyes. I do believe someone died in that crash as well.
V-drive Regatta over at Red Rock about .........so on.............

Mardonzi
07-25-2007, 03:13 PM
I'll take this thread to mean that I'm not welcome there???? :D :D

RiverDave
07-25-2007, 03:15 PM
I'll take this thread to mean that I'm not welcome there???? :D :D
Your not welcome..... anywhere. :D
RD

Trailer Park Casanova
07-25-2007, 03:18 PM
Most of the boats don't bother me with the d. If I wasn't paying attention or expecting it things could have gone bad.
Also whats the deal with the retards on rental skis doing full speed passes in front of the casino in the no wake zone.We were anchored and two girls were racing around boats for what seemed like hours with no police interaction:( :eek:
It's been years since we've seen any sort of LEO influence around the Bluewater.
We saw two guys get punched on the dock for speeding their rental Sea Doos through the Marina.
Only justice at that end if the river we've seen in years.
It's vigilante rule at the Bluewater and headgate sandbar.
You are on your own.

OCMerrill
07-25-2007, 06:05 PM
It's been years since we've seen any sort of LEO influence around the Bluewater.
We saw two guys get punched on the dock for speeding their rental Sea Doos through the Marina.
Only justice at that end if the river we've seen in years.
It's vigilante rule at the Bluewater and headgate sandbar.
You are on your own.
Spot on...also to add the Headgate sandbar has little to no current. It's pretty stagnate and after peeps (many times to many to count) are there all day I get the feeling that I am standing in pure piss. No thanks.
The Bluewater does have a Tribes patrol boat. Not a bad little skiff either. Last time I looked at it there was no OB motor but they could paddle out and flick on the lights.:D
I have seen Fish and Game in the no wake area on plane two many times to count. They DO NOT respect it.

River Lynchmob
07-26-2007, 08:11 AM
I guess I will have to actually start driving my Stoker again so I can make it 2 :D :D
You dont have to do that 1 of you is more than enough :D

Mardonzi
07-26-2007, 08:27 AM
Your not welcome..... anywhere. :D
RD
Coming from you,, this statement is meaningless :D
Oh,, and I almost forgot...
RD Sux!!!!!!!!!
You up for a Catalina run next weekend?

RiverDave
07-26-2007, 11:30 AM
Coming from you,, this statement is meaningless :D
Oh,, and I almost forgot...
RD Sux!!!!!!!!!
You up for a Catalina run next weekend?
Maybe if it's on sunday? I have to go to a wedding on Saturday.
RD

boatnam2
07-26-2007, 01:42 PM
We've been gripping about Boatnam for years anyway....it doesn't do any good. :rolleyes: :D
RTJas :D
ahhhhhhhhh man thats not nice jason,i can tell you this last time out a jet skier couldnt even jump my wake,it was so small he looked stupid.I dont think i can say the same for the roll bars boats.I was glad i had a big boat while cruising slow past a wake boat,would of sank if i was in a small boat,plus the music was so loud if i did have a problem the captain of the boat would not hear me even though we were 20ft apart.the boat was overloaded with sausauge in a unsafe manor i could just see them falling over grabbing the guy next to him dick because that was the only thing to grab.Everyone had bandanas pulled down to there eyes so they cant see to good but they looked cool as hell.They want to look really cool and make sure everyone sees them so they cruise 5 feet from all the docks with there 2ft wakes rocking the shit out of everything.but my thought is to each there own, own what you want it not the size or speed of boats but the brain size and ego othat is the real problem.Pea sized brain jet skiers alsoo fall under that.