Schaita Crash

[slowinhavasu]

Any body hear about a crash last night around 17:00 off of spectator point. I have pics , but don't want to post them for respect for the owner of the boat.
He is ok with a broken femer and flown out to Vegas...just wondering if any body has some details??????????????....c

[BrendellaJet]

schaita=schiada?

[slowinhavasu]

schaita=schiada?
Thanks......oops..

[squirt'nmyload]

was he drinking, speeding, cut off by a jet ski???? come on...we need answers!! :D :D
sorry to hear about this, was the boat totaled? sounds like he will be ok :)

[lalhc]

No, I didn't hear or see anything and I drove through that area around 6 pm last night.

[MR.rvrluvr]

hate to here this ....glad he's ok

[slowinhavasu]

was he drinking, speeding, cut off by a jet ski???? come on...we need answers!! :D :D
sorry to hear about this, was the boat totaled? sounds like he will be ok :)
Boats history, they tried to save the motor.....That's all I know, that's why I was asking....:idea:

[squirt'nmyload]

Boats history, they tried to save the motor.....That's all I know, that's why I was asking....:idea:
man that really sucks :( .......... alright armchairs, looks like its time to speculate!!!! :D :D

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

pics

[Tom Brown]

Why don't we raise some money so we can give this man a new boat and cooler full of beer? :cool:

[Jbb]

Why don't we raise some money so we can give this man a new boat and cooler full of beer? :cool:
Damm Brown....that's harsh......now wonder everybody hates you.....:p

[Tom Brown]

OK... just to save some private message space...
I don't know that this man was drinking and it doesn't make me happy to hear he broke his leg. I don't wish harm to come to anyone.
.... so go ahead and hate my guts.... just please don't PM me about it. :D

[Jbb]

OK... just to save some private message space...
I don't know that this man was drinking and it doesn't make me happy to hear he broke his leg. I don't wish harm to come to anyone.
.... so go ahead and hate my guts.... just please don't PM me about it. :D
Check your PM's ....Brown....:)

[mondorally]

Anyone have any more details?
-Justin

[RitcheyRch]

Hate hearing about all these boat crashes.

[Quest4Fun]

There is an article in the paper this morning of a 21 ft boat flipping over due to excessive speed - says alcohol believed to be a factor. 5 people on board, 3 injured with non life threatening injuries. Said it was near Spectator Point. Could be the same one.
Post the pics!

[Jordy]

says alcohol believed to be a factor.
Isn't that automatically added to the story anytime anything happens with a boat in Havasu??? :idea: :D

[ratso]

There is an article in the paper this morning of a 21 ft boat flipping over due to excessive speed - says alcohol believed to be a factor. 5 people on board, 3 injured with non life threatening injuries. Said it was near Spectator Point. Could be the same one.
Post the pics!
Why do people feel the need to drive so fast with others on board?

[riverbound]

Isn't that automatically added to the story anytime anything happens with a boat in Havasu??? :idea: :D
I think so. :mad:

[Mr. Crusader 83]

There is nothing on havasunews.com about it.

[Mr. Crusader 83]

Isn't that automatically added to the story anytime anything happens with a boat in Havasu??? :idea: :D
Its always added. I had a friend die in a head on car crash on rice rd. and they added it to the news paper artical. He didnt drink. He couldnt. He had a liver and heart condition.

[Stoneman]

Where is Spectator Point?

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Where is Spectator Point?
I think it is the point out by the Nautical to the South of their launch ramp.....

[2manymustangs]

Check your PM's ....Brown....:)
He never checks em, I have been trying to PM for a long time. I think he's the hater...
:mad:

[phebus]

I think it is the point out by the Nautical to the South of their launch ramp.....
Yep, that's it.

[Quest4Fun]

There is nothing on havasunews.com about it.
It is buried on page 3...very small article. Probably wouldn't show up on-line.

[Not So Fast]

I wont start another "hate lake lice" thread here but maybe some of these crashes are the result of their careless manuvers and then they go on their merry way:idea: Example: yesterday coming from upriver on a non crowded day (yeah, odd huh?) i was following about 5 or 6 PWC's that were doing the usual spinouts and circles etc so I stayed back far enough to allow for any possible unexpected moves by these folks and when it was wide enough to pass safely I did so but to watch these clowns do their "manuvers" with out any regard to other boaters just amazed me. They either had no idea I was coming up on them or they just didnt care, I dont get it, if I was on a boat that weighed what 700lbs or so and 5000 lb boats were driving all around me i would take care to not get run over.
Any way not to hijack but maybe these latest crashes are the result of this kind of thing becoming so rampant on the river and lake????????? Just a thought:confused: NSF

[boatsnblondes]

Gonna call Kieth at Conquest, make sure he's ok.....:(

[Biglue]

Question for Boatcop maybe......
How many accidents have occured this season up to date compared to other seasons? Hearing about deaths on here is always a saddening thing, and I'm in no way trying to downplay the impact they have on people and boaters in general. I guess the question is, has this boating season been worse as far as accidents on the river?

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Gonna call Kieth at Conquest, make sure he's ok.....:(
I believe that Kieth is at Magic
Question for Boatcop maybe......
How many accidents have occured this season up to date compared to other seasons? Hearing about deaths on here is always a saddening thing, and I'm in no way trying to downplay the impact they have on people and boaters in general. I guess the question is, has this boating season been worse as far as accidents on the river?
Don't know about accidents, but I can say that, last Sat, the River North of Havasu was the busiest I have ever seen it. More traffic than the holiday weekends. Made we want to stay home until after labor day.

[Not So Fast]

Question for Boatcop maybe......
How many accidents have occured this season up to date compared to other seasons? Hearing about deaths on here is always a saddening thing, and I'm in no way trying to downplay the impact they have on people and boaters in general. I guess the question is, has this boating season been worse as far as accidents on the river?
If I remember correctly it was 2003 or 2004 and there was an abundant amount of deaths on the lower river and Lake Havasu, I think there were approx. 11 or more deaths that year:( :( it was the worst I can remember! NSF

[meaniam]

Isn't that automatically added to the story anytime anything happens with a boat in Havasu??? :idea: :D
it seems to be in every accident reported by the paper. i think speculation by a paper is unprofessional and unethical. but i wouldn't bet my money that even 10% of the accidents didn't involve alcohol. i would bet my money in all 2 party involved accidents. alcohol is involved with at least 1 driver out there.
this assumption the paper does on alcohol kinda reminds me of a few years ago, that every boat sank out in havasu was a cheetah. we all know that wasn't true.
the paper should not be printing that statement of alcohol. tell it knows 100% it is damaging know matter what.

[2forcefull]

I wont start another "hate lake lice" thread here but maybe some of these crashes are the result of their careless manuvers and then they go on their merry way:idea: Example: yesterday coming from upriver on a non crowded day (yeah, odd huh?) i was following about 5 or 6 PWC's that were doing the usual spinouts and circles
Any way not to hijack but maybe these latest crashes are the result of this kind of thing becoming so rampant on the river and lake????????? Just a thought:confused: NSF
WELL SAID, the first rule of safe boating is,
BOAT IN A PREDICTABLE MANNER!!!
they need to start writ'n tickets for those reckless bastards!!!
and yes I hate em.
Next un writ'n law for the river, stay to the right, pass on the left
and look over your shoulder before you change course!!!!
jackass's run down the middle of a crowded river in boats go'n 20
and jet ski's running 5 across like runn'n of the bulls need a ticket!!!
oh and what year or color was the Schiada if not post'n a picture
hope it wasn't this one

[Deano]

it seems to be in every accident reported by the paper. i think speculation by a paper is unprofessional and unethical. but i wouldn't bet my money that even 10% of the accidents didn't involve alcohol. i would bet my money in all 2 party involved accidents. alcohol is involved with at least 1 driver out there.
lmao:D

[topless]

Why do people feel the need to drive so fast with others on board?
I don't know, maybe we should ask Kilrtoy.:confused: :confused:

[Jbb]

I don't know, maybe we should ask Kilrtoy.:confused: :confused:
Bam......Line drive ...hit fairly deep, to straightaway center........:jawdrop:

[Goad]

I wont start another "hate lake lice" thread here but maybe some of these crashes are the result of their careless manuvers and then they go on their merry way:idea: Example: yesterday coming from upriver on a non crowded day (yeah, odd huh?) i was following about 5 or 6 PWC's that were doing the usual spinouts and circles etc so I stayed back far enough to allow for any possible unexpected moves by these folks and when it was wide enough to pass safely I did so but to watch these clowns do their "manuvers" with out any regard to other boaters just amazed me. They either had no idea I was coming up on them or they just didnt care, I dont get it, if I was on a boat that weighed what 700lbs or so and 5000 lb boats were driving all around me i would take care to not get run over.
Any way not to hijack but maybe these latest crashes are the result of this kind of thing becoming so rampant on the river and lake????????? Just a thought:confused: NSF
I can agree with this, as many others have...ive been a passanger in a boat and had a waverunner hit us because he was doing a donut/spin out...and came out of it at a high rate of speed and didnt check his blind spot. He had a young child on the back of it. the guy didnt even stop. He made a B-Line up river and never looked back, never stopped to see if his kid was ok. We stopped to see if there was damage done to our boat and then headed up river to find him....he was long gone. This happened just above the Avi.

[ratso]

I don't know, maybe we should ask Kilrtoy.:confused: :confused:
Hey!:jawdrop: This ain't volleyball... where I set it up... and you spike it down somebody's throat...:D

[mondorally]

Details? Description? Pics?
-Justin

[Not So Fast]

I can agree with this, as many others have...ive been a passanger in a boat and had a waverunner hit us because he was doing a donut/spin out...and came out of it at a high rate of speed and didnt check his blind spot. He had a young child on the back of it. the guy didnt even stop. He made a B-Line up river and never looked back, never stopped to see if his kid was ok. We stopped to see if there was damage done to our boat and then headed up river to find him....he was long gone. This happened just above the Avi.
I WILL NOT BOAT UP BY THE CASINOS BECAUSE OF THE LICE, PERIOD. Everytime we go up to Laughlin or the Avi and we cross the river, all I see are the little irritating bastards just running rampant. The worst part is that most are rentals and that just makes then all the more stupid. Of course this is just my opinion;) NSF

[havasu5150]

Gonna call Kieth at Conquest, make sure he's ok.....:(
I was thinking the same thing......although he is at Magic now.

[ColeTR2]

Details? Description? Pics?
-Justin
What color is the boat ? is it a v-drive ? just wondering if it's a friend. Could plese give us a little more Details. - Thanks Mike

[socalmoney]

Does anyone need to be adopted?

[Infomaniac]

What color is the boat ? is it a v-drive ? just wondering if it's a friend. Could plese give us a little more Details. - Thanks Mike
Yea who was it?

[2forcefull]

I WILL NOT BOAT UP BY THE CASINOS BECAUSE OF THE LICE, PERIOD. Everytime we go up to Laughlin or the Avi and we cross the river, all I see are the little irritating bastards just running rampant. The worst part is that most are rentals and that just makes then all the more stupid. Of course this is just my opinion;) NSF
again I agree with NSF

[Legal Chemistry]

Something must have happened ...Havasu PD cut through the channel at full speed to Thompson Bay around that time. Jokingly, people were yelling "NO WAKE ZONE!" Hope everyone walked out of it okay.

[Not So Fast]

again I agree with NSF
I hate to say this but Havasu is becoming more infested also. Cruzing up river is a challenge even during the week?? You know what, most of all this stems from just too many people in the same place vying for their share of the water and we all know that lice dont belong:D Do you agree with that?? NSF

[Redwing247]

yesterday coming from upriver on a non crowded day (yeah, odd huh?) i was following about 5 or 6 PWC's that were doing the usual spinouts and circles etc so I stayed back far enough to allow for any possible unexpected moves by these folks and when it was wide enough to pass safely I did so but to watch these clowns do their "manuvers" with out any regard to other boaters just amazed me. They either had no idea I was coming up on them or they just didnt care, I dont get it, if I was on a boat that weighed what 700lbs or so and 5000 lb boats were driving all around me i would take care to not get run over.
Time to install a train horn on the boat ??? :idea: :idea:

[squirt'nmyload]

Time to install a train horn on the boat ??? :idea: :idea:
funny you say this....someone had train horns on their boat sunday at lake pleasant.....some guy had his pitbull on his boat and it was freaking out!! :D :D

[slowinhavasu]

OK, I have no new details, still looking for a no BS eye witness. Thank goodness all involved are OK........:) Her are a few pics...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2049.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2050.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2051.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2052.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2053.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2055.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2054.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2056.jpg

[HOOTER SLED-]

I WILL NOT BOAT UP BY THE CASINOS BECAUSE OF THE LICE, PERIOD. Everytime we go up to Laughlin or the Avi and we cross the river, all I see are the little irritating bastards just running rampant. The worst part is that most are rentals and that just makes then all the more stupid. Of course this is just my opinion;) NSF
I agree completely. I can't believe there are not more accidents in this area. I think it helped ALOT when they put that no wake zone down by Harrahs. Way more crowded now. I could only imagine. PLUS the river taxis cutting straight across all the time. And then the narrow area between Davis and the dam. Forget about it.

[HOOTER SLED-]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaayuuuuuum. :eek: :eek: :eek: Glad to hear everyone is OK. Man it hurts to see a Schiada like that too. :sqeyes:

[Sigus]

Dammnnnn that thing took a beating. Good to hear everyone is OK.

[squirt'nmyload]

that was a beautiful boat...i almost shed a tear looking at that :(

[Racey]

Good lord that thing is focked :eek:
That's about as totaled as it gets for a boat.....

[Glamasu]

:( looks like a 21 river tunnel.......
Looks like 21ft of busted up boat to me

[Daytona100]

Damn shame!!!!!!!!!!! Well looks like you saved the running gear. Time to look for a new hull. Mike

[lalhc]

Man, that looks just like the boat that was parked next to me in Steamboat a couple weeks back. This guy had a place at Beachcomber. I sure hope that wasn't his boat because it was one beautiful boat. He was with someone else that had a matching boat w/a 300 HP Outboard.

[Garrddogg]

That hurts to see a boat like that..:(
hope the people are ok too.

[TCHB]

I saw this boat around noon the same day. Playwood and glass no match for the water.

[mbrown2]

That looks bad....wonder what the story is as the boat must have taken some serious licks as the motor and drive are still in place but the rest of the boat got beat up...hopefully the folks in it made it ok...

[Riverkid]

That one went over hard...
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o235/slowinhavasu/IMGP2052.jpg
Haven't ever seen a Schi do that before...

[Glamasu]

:( yeah it's busted, but i'd rather be in that 21 than 90% of the other 21's out there, other than maybe a Hallet or Howard...........................................! !
Don't get all excited...Not talking chit....I agree with your statement....I would rather crash in that boat than my magic...and I really mean that...When I read your first post that was the first thing that popped out:D

[bonesfab]

anybody notice the power steering resevoir? ddaaammmnnn. That thing took a lickin. glad no one was killed.

[707dog]

:eek: fok man that dosnt look to good hope all peeps on board are doing good!!

[boater72]

:( yeah it's busted, but i'd rather be in that 21 than 90% of the other 21's out there, other than maybe a Hallet or Howard...........................................! !
I was thinking the same thing.

[phebus]

I saw that boat at the mechanics area at the Marina on Saturday.
So, before the ***boat jury is in, consider that it was possibly a mechanical failure that lead to the unfortunate incident.
Beautifull boat, what a shame, but I'm thankfull no one was severely injured.

[Racey]

anybody notice the power steering resevoir? ddaaammmnnn. That thing took a lickin. glad no one was killed.
I noticed that too, unreal! :eek:

[just another payment]

WOW:jawdrop:

[just another payment]

WOW:jawdrop:

[scottneedsaboat]

Wasn't there a similar boat in the spam section a few months ago? The owner had a mid 70's two tone white and red chevy/gmc truck. I could be totally wrong, but the boat looks familiar? Glad to hear that nobody was killed, that looks pretty bad, especially to such a nice boat.

[vmjtc3]

Why do people feel the need to drive so fast with others on board?
Cause it's hard to show off alone :idea:

[mondorally]

Wasn't there a similar boat in the spam section a few months ago? The owner had a mid 70's two tone white and red chevy/gmc truck. I could be totally wrong, but the boat looks familiar? Glad to hear that nobody was killed, that looks pretty bad, especially to such a nice boat.
Same model, different boat. Seriously glad to hear everyone is, relatively speaking, OK.
http://***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37047&d=1187115699
-Justin

[River Lynchmob]

:( yeah it's busted, but i'd rather be in that 21 than 90% of the other 21's out there, other than maybe a Hallet or Howard...........................................! !
I'd rather be in that 21 than 100% of other 21's

[Hallett]

What a shame I'm sure glad he will be ok. is there any more details as to what caused the crash ?
I know I have seen that boat but can't place it. the main thing is that they will be ok.

[Racey]

I'd rather be in that 21 than 100% of other 21's
except maybe one of Carson's :D ;)

[River Lynchmob]

except maybe one of Carson's :D ;)
This is true. Are you heading to Parker for Labor Day?

[Partycattin]

Anybody find out what caused this?

[talkinghead]

I bet the results would have been different if that were a Boston Whaler which have very strong, thick and heavy hulls. You can drive heavy equipment over there hulls - I've seen the ads where they do that.
In general ***boats should have hulls like Boston Whalers given the power they have - not made lightly. I can't believe how thin that deck is.

[RiverDave]

I bet the results would have been different if that were a Boston Whaler which have very strong, thick and heavy hulls. You can drive heavy equipment over there hulls - I've seen the ads where they do that.
In general ***boats should have hulls like Boston Whalers given the power they have - not made lightly. I can't believe how thin that deck is.
That's "thin" to you? LOL What do you drive a tank? :jawdrop:

[Tom Brown]

You know your deck is thin when you set a liter of TC-W3 on it and the deck surface oil cans down like the oil bottle is in free fall.
That is not thin.

[djunkie]

I bet the results would have been different if that were a Boston Whaler which have very strong, thick and heavy hulls. You can drive heavy equipment over there hulls - I've seen the ads where they do that.
In general ***boats should have hulls like Boston Whalers given the power they have - not made lightly. I can't believe how thin that deck is.
I highly doubt theres many Boston Whalers out there that will run the speed this thing was probably doing when it crashed. If so I'd like to see what happens to that whaler if it crashed at those high speeds. :idea: :idea:

[talkinghead]

Probably a lot less damage - theres a reason that police, the Navy, etc...use Boston Whalers and not Daves Custom Boats.
They are built strong.

[djunkie]

Probably a lot less damage - theres a reason that police, the Navy, etc...use Boston Whalers and not Daves Custom Boats.
They are built strong.
And probably slightly cheaper............:idea: :idea:

[Tom Brown]

It's hard to believe a Boston Whaler would be built as well as a Schiada.
I don't want to dump on Boston Whaler. I know they're great boats. Still, stronger than a Schiada????

[djunkie]

It's hard to believe a Boston Whaler would be built as well as a Schiada.
I don't want to dump on Boston Whaler. I know they're great boats. Still, stronger than a Schiada????
This guy's thinking is just nuts to me. Boston Whalers are a great boat for their purpose. But you don't see any with 1000+ hp running 100+mph. To compare it to a Schiada or even DCB as he has is just insane. Too totally different types of boats. Schiada has to be, IMO, THE BEST built boat around.

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

Probably a lot less damage - theres a reason that police, the Navy, etc...use Boston Whalers and not Daves Custom Boats.
They are built strong.
why would you compare apples to oranges..

[Tom Brown]

To compare it to a Schiada or even DCB as he has is just insane.
Yeah.
The police argument sinks like a rock too. The police don't chose the Chevrolet Caprice over the ML65 AMG because the Caprice is so much better.
That busted up deck is thicker than my hull at the pad. My deck is around 3/16" thick. That deck looks to be closer to 1/2" thick and you know it's braced like crazy too.

[djunkie]

Yeah.
The police argument sinks like a rock too. The police don't chose the Chevrolet Caprice over the ML65 AMG because the Caprice is so much better.
That busted up deck is thicker than my hull at the pad. My deck is around 3/16" thick. That deck looks to be closer to 1/2" thick and you know it's braced like crazy too.
For that boat to sustain that much damage he had to have been hauling asssss...... And that crash must have been violent as hell. Glad I wasn't in it.

[Froggystyle]

Boston Whalers are pretty much garbage boats. I know, I worked on them, in them and around them for years in the Navy. They are only "unsinkable" because they every single void where you could have storage is full of two part foam, making them heavy and very, very difficult to repair.
They are laminated with a chopper gun, well regarded among the very worst ways to build a boat. Thick, and stupid. Cleats pull out like it is their job, any hit amounts to serious repair of the fiberglass surfaces... made twice as fun with the flotation foam inside of the repair. That foam FYI disintigrates in the presence of styrene, one of the fluid components of fiberglass resin, turning it into goo.
They won't take much power before starting a wild porpoise, need tabs with the slightest mismatched load port to starboard and have essentially zero storage on board.
The tooling is rough, at best, and there is lots of transfer where the rough plywood bulkheads, where they even existed, came in contact with the boats surface. We were always having problems with radar hoops and motor bumpers getting ripped out upon impact as well.
They were rigged poorly from the factory, had myriad electrical failures from a poorly designed and protected system and were always missing movements from failures.
Other than that, they are great... :rolleyes:

[djunkie]

Boston Whalers are pretty much garbage boats. I know, I worked on them, in them and around them for years in the Navy. They are only "unsinkable" because they every single void where you could have storage is full of two part foam, making them heavy and very, very difficult to repair.
They are laminated with a chopper gun, well regarded among the very worst ways to build a boat. Thick, and stupid. Cleats pull out like it is their job, any hit amounts to serious repair of the fiberglass surfaces... made twice as fun with the flotation foam inside of the repair. That foam FYI disintigrates in the presence of styrene, one of the fluid components of fiberglass resin, turning it into goo.
They won't take much power before starting a wild porpoise, need tabs with the slightest mismatched load port to starboard and have essentially zero storage on board.
The tooling is rough, at best, and there is lots of transfer where the rough plywood bulkheads, where they even existed, came in contact with the boats surface. We were always having problems with radar hoops and motor bumpers getting ripped out upon impact as well.
They were rigged poorly from the factory, had myriad electrical failures from a poorly designed and protected system and were always missing movements from failures.
Other than that, they are great... :rolleyes:
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :D

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

Boston Whalers are pretty much garbage boats. I know, I worked on them, in them and around them for years in the Navy. They are only "unsinkable" because they every single void where you could have storage is full of two part foam, making them heavy and very, very difficult to repair.
They are laminated with a chopper gun, well regarded among the very worst ways to build a boat. Thick, and stupid. Cleats pull out like it is their job, any hit amounts to serious repair of the fiberglass surfaces... made twice as fun with the flotation foam inside of the repair. That foam FYI disintigrates in the presence of styrene, one of the fluid components of fiberglass resin, turning it into goo.
They won't take much power before starting a wild porpoise, need tabs with the slightest mismatched load port to starboard and have essentially zero storage on board.
The tooling is rough, at best, and there is lots of transfer where the rough plywood bulkheads, where they even existed, came in contact with the boats surface. We were always having problems with radar hoops and motor bumpers getting ripped out upon impact as well.
They were rigged poorly from the factory, had myriad electrical failures from a poorly designed and protected system and were always missing movements from failures.
Other than that, they are great... :rolleyes:
:D :D :D

[Roaddogg 4040]

Boston Whalers are pretty much garbage boats. I know, I worked on them, in them and around them for years in the Navy. They are only "unsinkable" because they every single void where you could have storage is full of two part foam, making them heavy and very, very difficult to repair.
They are laminated with a chopper gun, well regarded among the very worst ways to build a boat. Thick, and stupid. Cleats pull out like it is their job, any hit amounts to serious repair of the fiberglass surfaces... made twice as fun with the flotation foam inside of the repair. That foam FYI disintigrates in the presence of styrene, one of the fluid components of fiberglass resin, turning it into goo.
They won't take much power before starting a wild porpoise, need tabs with the slightest mismatched load port to starboard and have essentially zero storage on board.
The tooling is rough, at best, and there is lots of transfer where the rough plywood bulkheads, where they even existed, came in contact with the boats surface. We were always having problems with radar hoops and motor bumpers getting ripped out upon impact as well.
They were rigged poorly from the factory, had myriad electrical failures from a poorly designed and protected system and were always missing movements from failures.
Other than that, they are great... :rolleyes:
Geez Froggy... and I always said nice things about your boats...:D Now my feeling are really hurt...:mad: :D :D
Steve

[Baja Big Dog]

:eek: :( :eek: :(

[73kona455]

anybody notice the power steering resevoir? ddaaammmnnn. That thing took a lickin. glad no one was killed.
look at the power steering pump's pulley...Its not even there....:eek:

[Froggystyle]

Geez Froggy... and I always said nice things about your boats...:D Now my feeling are really hurt...:mad: :D :D
Steve
I meant... except for the 32's... they are primo! :D
Honestly though, I had pretty high expectations from the craft before I got to work on one in the Teams... they certainly do have a reputation in any case for being true workhorses. We saw the dirty side for sure though, and they just weren't up to the task.
They don't use whalers for anything anymore. Switched to USMI and other boutique brands that are doing a much better job.
I am sure they are great for lake boats and for normal use, but they just didn't hold up to abuse very well at all. Chopper boats won't though.
My only point is, they are by no means indestructable, and the only difference between that Schiada coming apart in the wreck and a Whaler is that the whaler would have all of its pieces floating still... :D

[talkinghead]

Try this on a Schiada (or DCB, or whatever...):
http://www.boatingmag.com/assets/image/6302003162620.jpg
Yes, this is a Boston Whaler.
Or this:
http://www.boatingmag.com/assets/image/630200316309.jpg
Wow!
Boston Whaler - HELL AND HIGH WATER ARE ALL IN A DAY’S WORK.
Boston Whalers serve with the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. They’re Coast Guard rescue and patrol boats. Whalers serve with the Border Patrol, Drug Enforcement Agency and NASA.
Police forces, fire departments and rescue squads in 44 states and 44 foreign countries all count on Whaler’s durability.
These boats endured combat in Vietnam and Operation Desert Storm. They’ve interdicted drugs in Central and South America and plowed through the wild water off the North Slope.
Yes, a Boston Whaler is built for a different purpose - but still they are built way better (or used to be, before they were bought out) than most other small boats regardless of design.

[hoolign]

Try this on a Schiada (or DCB, or whatever...):
http://www.boatingmag.com/assets/image/6302003162620.jpg
Yes, this is a Boston Whaler.
Or this:
http://www.boatingmag.com/assets/image/630200316309.jpg
Wow!
Boston Whaler - HELL AND HIGH WATER ARE ALL IN A DAY’S WORK.
Boston Whalers serve with the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. They’re Coast Guard rescue and patrol boats. Whalers serve with the Border Patrol, Drug Enforcement Agency and NASA.
Police forces, fire departments and rescue squads in 44 states and 44 foreign countries all count on Whaler’s durability.
These boats endured combat in Vietnam and Operation Desert Storm. They’ve interdicted drugs in Central and South America and plowed through the wild water off the North Slope.
Yes, a Boston Whaler is built for a different purpose - but still they are built way better (or used to be, before they were bought out) than most other small boats regardless of design.
That is some great information and will likely come in handy next time I go boating in a rock quarry with the woman! When I boat in gravel pits I always wonder "what if I should happen to get run over by a dump truck?? and let me tell you ...it leads to some very one sided arguements with my woman. She's always telling me " one of these days ..your going to get run over by a gravel truck" Now I can show her this and end this constant bickering!
Thanks !

[superdave013]

I bet the results would have been different if that were a Boston Whaler which have very strong, thick and heavy hulls. You can drive heavy equipment over there hulls - I've seen the ads where they do that.
In general ***boats should have hulls like Boston Whalers given the power they have - not made lightly. I can't believe how thin that deck is.
My 20' Schiada is 1 1/2" thick at the keel and has 4 full length stringers. Built like a brick shithouse for sure.

[mondorally]

Glad to hear you're alive! Good luck on the recovery.
-Justin

[CampbellCarl]

Glad to hear from you! My wishes for a speedy recovery for both you and the boat. I hope you'll post up the final cause of the crash. Good luck!
CC

[River Lynchmob]

I've had 4 200 pound plus guys on the deck of my 21 with zero deflection. IMO there is only one other boat built that was built as sturdy as a Schiada but I guarantee you could not get one today. So that leaves Schiada.
Just for the record doesn't the government award contracs to the lowest bidder? :idea:

[HocusPocus]

My pain pills make everything a little blurry so sorry ahead of time if this is a little jarbled. We werent speeding or doing any odd maneuvers, we were just crusing along at about 45-55 mph. The boat tilted vertical on the drivers side then back to the passengers side then as it came back to the drivers side the boat flipped over. All of us are very lucky to be alive with me having the most serious injuries (Damn steering wheel) The steering wheel broke my right femur and damaged my left knee and messed up my lower legs pretty bad. We still havent found out the cause of the crash, whether it was the trim tabs that failed (They had been worked on the day before) or was it just a rough wave that sent my boat into spasm. Ive had the boat for 4 years and it has done some funny stuff like high side before but nothing like this. Its amazing we are alive but trajic that my boat is so damaged. There goes 100 grand. I gaurantee ill be back out on the water but in a larger boat and not in a tunnel. Probably a 24 schiada.
wow.. that had to be a hell of a ride.
hope your injuries heal quick.

[schiada1978]

So the insurance company has narrowed it down to what I thought in the beggining. One of the trim tabs popped (the line bursted) throwing the boat up on its side. With the boat on its side (no drive in the water) and some chop there was no recovery. The boat was serviced the day before for the trim tabs failing at Lake Havasu Marina.

[phebus]

I saw the boat at the Marina when it was being serviced. Beautifull boat, what a shame.
Glad to see you and your passengers came out of the ordeal OK.

[DMOORE]

Boston Whalers are pretty much garbage boats. I know, I worked on them, in them and around them for years in the Navy. They are only "unsinkable" because they every single void where you could have storage is full of two part foam, making them heavy and very, very difficult to repair.
They are laminated with a chopper gun, well regarded among the very worst ways to build a boat. Thick, and stupid. Cleats pull out like it is their job, any hit amounts to serious repair of the fiberglass surfaces... made twice as fun with the flotation foam inside of the repair. That foam FYI disintigrates in the presence of styrene, one of the fluid components of fiberglass resin, turning it into goo.
They won't take much power before starting a wild porpoise, need tabs with the slightest mismatched load port to starboard and have essentially zero storage on board.
The tooling is rough, at best, and there is lots of transfer where the rough plywood bulkheads, where they even existed, came in contact with the boats surface. We were always having problems with radar hoops and motor bumpers getting ripped out upon impact as well.
They were rigged poorly from the factory, had myriad electrical failures from a poorly designed and protected system and were always missing movements from failures.
Other than that, they are great... :rolleyes:
Pretty much sums it up.:)
Darrell.

[Deano]

http://www.boatingmag.com/assets/image/630200316309.jpg
One of my buddies, who is in the Coast Gaurd, tried to stop some drug runners in a 42' fountain a couple of years back in one of those:rolleyes: . His little boat looked like that when they were done with it.:D