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Ziggy
09-28-2007, 08:22 AM
What the hell:confused: :confused: . Wife goes to call "time"(ya know 853-1212) to set a clock in the house and the damn thing says its been discontinued as of Sept 19th........
What is this world coming to? Now no one will ever be on time :rolleyes: :eek:

Her454
09-28-2007, 08:23 AM
Holy Shit, I just called it too.........same thing. I've always known or remembered it as calling POP-CORN. :) :D
There goes another "old school" method, hu Zig. ;)

Ziggy
09-28-2007, 08:27 AM
Holy Shit, I just called it too.........same thing. I've always known or remembered it as calling POP-CORN. :) :D
There goes another "old school" method, hu Zig. ;)
Exactly...............this one hurts to loose.
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if I remember correctly, you could actually use any prefix so long as you dialed 1212 it would work......

MudPumper
09-28-2007, 08:31 AM
I think we went over this a couple of days ago.:idea: :)

Havasu_Dreamin
09-28-2007, 08:38 AM
Reprinted without the permission of the LA Times
Time of day calling it quits at AT&T
David Lazarus
Consumer Confidential
August 29, 2007
It's the end of time, at least as far as AT&T is concerned.
The brief note in customers' bills hardly does justice to the momentousness of the decision. "Service withdrawal," it blandly declares. "Effective September 2007, Time of Day information service will be discontinued."
What that means is that people throughout Southern California will no longer be able to call 853-1212 to hear a woman's recorded voice state that "at the tone, Pacific Daylight Time will be . . ." with the recording automatically updating at 10-second intervals.
"Times change," said John Britton, an AT&T spokesman. "In today's world, there are just too many other ways to get this information. You can look at your cellphone or your computer. You no longer have to pick up the telephone."
Indeed, time already has stopped in 48 other states, he said. California and Nevada are the two remaining holdouts.
In Northern California, the prefix for calling time is 767, or P-O-P on a telephone keypad. For decades, locals up there have dialed POPCORN any time they have had to reset their watches or reprogram electronic gadgets after a power failure.
"In California, our equipment has gotten old," Britton said. "It's reached the end of its life span."
Time's up statewide Sept. 19. Britton said Nevada service would live on borrowed time for an unspecified period, until the equipment in that state similarly starts breaking down.
One upside: AT&T says doing away with time would enable the creation of about 300,000 new phone numbers in California beginning with the 853 or 767 prefixes. (No such numbers have been issued to date because, when coupled with any four other digits, you get time.)
To be sure, time marches on. Yet for many Californians, the looming demise of the "time lady," as she's come to be known, marks the end of a more genteel era, when we all had time to share.
"It was always there," said Orlo Brown, 70, who for many years kept Pacific Bell's (and subsequently SBC's) time machines running in a downtown Los Angeles office building. "Everybody knew the number."
Richard Frenkiel was assigned to work on the time machines when he joined Bell Labs in the early 1960s. He described the devices as large drums about 2 feet in diameter, with as many as 100 album-like audio tracks on the exterior. Whenever someone called time, the drums would start turning and a message would begin, with different tracks mixed together on the fly.
"The people who worked on it took it very seriously," Frenkiel, 64, recalled. "They took a lot of pride in it."
In a twist of historical irony, Frenkiel went on to play a leading role in development of the technology that makes cellphones possible -- the very device that's now instrumental in killing time.
Phone companies have been providing the time to callers since the 1920s. In the early days, live operators read the time off clocks on the wall.
In the 1930s, an Atlanta company called Audichron devised a system for the time to be provided automatically. Audichron leased its technology to phone companies nationwide, often with sponsorship from local businesses.
Time ladies -- and a few gentlemen -- came and went over the years. Then, in the 1950s, a woman named Mary Moore emerged as the nation's leading time-teller.
Her reading of hours, minutes and seconds was delivered in a distinctive if somewhat prissy tone. Moore's odd pronunciation of the numbers 5 ("fiyev") and 9 ("niyun") influenced a generation of operators, much as flying ace Chuck Yeager's West Virginia drawl is said to have been adopted by innumerable airline pilots.
By far the most prominent time lady was Jane Barbe, who succeeded Moore at Audichron in the 1960s. A former big band singer, Barbe (pronounced "Barbie") went on to become the voice of recorded telephone messages in the 1970s and '80s in the United States and elsewhere.
Along with her interpretations of the time and current temperature, Barbe delivered the bad news too, telling you that circuits in a specific area were busy, please try again later, or that your call cannot be completed as dialed.
And who will ever forget her heartbreaking rendition of "I'm sorry, the number you have dialed is no longer in service"?
Barbe died of cancer-related complications in 2003 at age 74. It's estimated that at the height of her fame, Barbe's voice was heard worldwide about 40 million times a day.
AT&T's Britton said the company started using Audichron's machines in 1948 and then switched to a different system manufactured by rival Weatherchron, also of Atlanta, in the 1960s. He was unable to identify the current time lady, saying that perhaps no one at AT&T knows who she is.
Ellis Bryant, the 83-year-old president of Weatherchron, also was unsure whose voice Californians hear when they call time. So he dialed 853-1212 and listened to the recording.
"Oh, that's Joanne," Bryant said without hesitation. "Joanne Daniels. No doubt about it."
He said Daniels started recording the time for Weatherchron about 25 years ago. At some point after Pacific Bell switched to his company's system, Daniels became California's time lady.
Reached at her Atlanta home, Daniels, 65, estimated that her reach was once nearly as extensive as that of Barbe, who was a friend. Daniels is now retired.
"I've done the time in many areas -- Eastern Standard Time, central time, Pacific time," she said. "The fun part was doing the temperatures for places like Alaska."
Daniels switched to her professional voice, her soft Southern accent instantly vanishing. "At the tone," she said, "the temperature is minus 12 degrees." She laughed and her accent returned. "I liked that."
No one had told her that AT&T was about to stop time.
"I think that's very sad," Daniels said. "I was told at one time that my voice would last until well into the 21st century. Now it looks like I'm about to be laid to rest."
When that day comes, Daniels said, she knows what her epitaph will be: "She knew the time."
Consumer Confidential runs Wednesdays and Sundays. Send tips or feedback to david.lazarus@latimes.com.

Ziggy
09-28-2007, 08:39 AM
I think we went over this a couple of days ago.:idea: :)Buzz kill :D:D:D
I wasn't part of that "we" I guess...LOL
It was shocking news to me.

Cigalert
09-28-2007, 08:41 AM
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Her454
09-28-2007, 08:54 AM
Buzz kill :D:D:D
I wasn't part of that "we" I guess...LOL
It was shocking news to me.
Obviously to me too. :eek:

Cheap Thrills
09-28-2007, 09:02 AM
WWV the worlds oldest continuous broadcasting radio station just happens to be the Atomic clock in Ft. Collins Colorado with an output power of 10Kw and can be heard on the HF frequencies of 5, 10, and 15 MHz;
The broadcast information includes time announcements, standard time intervals, standard frequencies, UT1 time corrections, a BCD time code, geophysical alerts, marine storm warnings, and Global Positioning System (GPS) status reports.
Or you can just click here and select your area http://nist.time.gov
T Haming it up !

OCMerrill
09-28-2007, 09:04 AM
I guess AT&T figures everyone has a auto updating cell phone. I still call it every once in a while.
So it plays a message? Why can't that message just tell you the time. WTF? Isn't that like the same thing?:D

BarryMac
09-28-2007, 09:08 AM
Zig, with the new lifestyle do you really even care what time it is? I guess the only reason to care would be because you need to no if it's after noon so you can make that first cocktail or crack that first beer... :D :D

My Man's Sportin' Wood
09-28-2007, 09:25 AM
Zig, with the new lifestyle do you really even care what time it is? I guess the only reason to care would be because you need to no if it's after noon so you can make that first cocktail or crack that first beer... :D :D
LMAO! He needs to know what time the kid gets home so he and his bride don't get caught in a little afternoon delight. :jawdrop:

OCMerrill
09-28-2007, 09:29 AM
They needed the phone number. :D
Got it.
I guess all the 555 numbers the movies use are running thin.:D

Lightning
09-28-2007, 09:29 AM
"One upside: AT&T says doing away with time would enable the creation of about 300,000 new phone numbers in California beginning with the 853 or 767 prefixes. (No such numbers have been issued to date because, when coupled with any four other digits, you get time.)"
Can you imagine the number of wrong number phone calls these poor people are going to have that get stuck with these prefixes.

2Driver
09-28-2007, 09:45 AM
At the tone the time will be: Get out of your ice cave and use your PC or get an atomic clock for $10. :D
http://nist.time.gov/ Atomic time.
For that matter look at your cell phone, most are getting the exact time delivered to them vs setting the time yourself.

OCMerrill
09-28-2007, 10:01 AM
At the tone the time will be: Get out of your ice cave and use your PC or get an atomic clock for $10. :D
http://nist.time.gov/ Atomic time.
For that matter look at your cell phone, most are getting the exact time delivered to them vs setting the time yourself.
Have you tried this link... I get a red X for the time. I literally laughed out loud.

Cheap Thrills
09-28-2007, 10:13 AM
At the tone the time will be: Get out of your ice cave and use your PC or get an atomic clock for $10. :D
http://nist.time.gov/ Atomic time.
For that matter look at your cell phone, most are getting the exact time delivered to them vs setting the time yourself.
Weird, Seems I've heard this somewhere before :idea: (http://www.***boat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2813409&postcount=9)
T.

Cheap Thrills
09-28-2007, 10:17 AM
Have you tried this link... I get a red X for the time. I literally laughed out loud.
:D LMAO Yeah it works. update your Flash Player , maybe ?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/WWV.JPG
T.

DILLIGAF
09-28-2007, 10:17 AM
You can still call time numbers. The 1212 number just forwared to another number anyhow. Our techs in the field would use it from time to time. Verizon still provides this type of serivce. It just is not a universal thing anymore provided by AT&T. At least that is how I understand it.
No biggie......

duffster
09-28-2007, 10:22 AM
This is sad us phone guys call her the iron lady.

2Driver
09-28-2007, 10:27 AM
Weird, Seems I've heard this somewhere before :idea: (http://www.***boat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2813409&postcount=9)
T.
oOOOPS , I guess I scroll to fast over the threads huh? :D :D

Cheap Thrills
09-28-2007, 10:33 AM
oOOOPS , I guess I scroll to fast over the threads huh? :D :D
No problem buddy just messin with ya :D I rarely tune to WWV for the time any more. Like you said most cell phone systems are set by it. The clock in Windooze is set by it too unless the Windows Time in the services is disabled.
Cheers
T.

My Man's Sportin' Wood
09-28-2007, 11:15 AM
When I was a kid, my mom was a phone operator. I used to dial 0 until she picked up, so I could talk to her. :D
LOL, so was my mom. I never thought to do that though. I remember her having to work on Christmas and Thanksgiving, though. That was a bummer.

PaPaG
09-28-2007, 02:38 PM
Don't worry all, just look at your cell phones, I know that At&t (cing) is set by the automic clock in Colorado and updated within seconds so your cells should have the accurate time on them so rest at ease......

BoatFloating
09-28-2007, 03:00 PM
Let's go back in the day. Who remembers the party lines. I forgot the number you would call in and you would hear just a bunch of people on one line. I thought it was the time number? That was a pick up haven.....

CA Stu
09-28-2007, 03:22 PM
It's always beer:30, screw 853-1212.
That does suck, though. Whenever the power takes a dump at my pad, I use it to reset my alarm clocks, etc..
I mean, I used to. :mad:
Thanks
CA Stu
PS D4time is a freeware program that sets your PC clock to any of the atomic clocks you choose. Handy.

OCMerrill
09-28-2007, 04:08 PM
:D LMAO Yeah it works. update your Flash Player , maybe ?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/WWV.JPG
T.
Alright fixed. Found out my whole life is about 67 seconds off. :)
You are pretty sharp coming down from huffing bug spray.:D :D :D

Cheap Thrills
09-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Alright fixed. Found out my whole life is about 67 seconds off. :)
You are pretty sharp coming down from huffing bug spray.:D :D :D
Man I like to have never gone to sleep last night. err this morning. that sh*t wound me up tighter than a nine day clock.. I feel as close to normal as usual now..
What was wrong ? Flash needed Updating ?
T.

OCMerrill
09-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Man I like to have never gone to sleep last night. err this morning. that sh*t wound me up tighter than a nine day clock.. I feel as close to normal as usual now..
What was wrong ? Flash needed Updating ?
T.
Es nombre no bueno.:D
That will piss a few folks around here off.:D
I just turned the Java off. This is my restored box and no "Java in the machine" just yet.
:D

RiverToysJas
09-28-2007, 06:02 PM
try this: 714-897-5511 ;)
con - mrs rt jas

DaveA
09-28-2007, 06:29 PM
WWV the worlds oldest continuous broadcasting radio station just happens to be the Atomic clock in Ft. Collins Colorado with an output power of 10Kw and can be heard on the HF frequencies of 5, 10, and 15 MHz;
The broadcast information includes time announcements, standard time intervals, standard frequencies, UT1 time corrections, a BCD time code, geophysical alerts, marine storm warnings, and Global Positioning System (GPS) status reports.
Or you can just click here and select your area http://nist.time.gov
T Haming it up !
Love WWV
"At the tone, 19 hours 27 minutes, Coordinated Universal Time....
nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----BONG!----nok----nok----nok----nok---
Dave>>with no HF rig up right now<<A
T- you oughta run up to Lake James this weekend....I won't get there til Sunday if at all, however....

Cheap Thrills
09-29-2007, 05:45 AM
Love WWV
"At the tone, 19 hours 27 minutes, Coordinated Universal Time....
nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----nok----BONG!----nok----nok----nok----nok---
Dave>>with no HF rig up right now<<A
T- you oughta run up to Lake James this weekend....I won't get there til Sunday if at all, however....
I hope make it out to James sometime this weekend Dave. Boatless of course . I haven't touched the Cheap Thrills project in 2 years. Unfortunately I haven't had the time. :(
I've got two Kenwood 430s HF rigs on the shelf collecting dust until the frost hits the ground.( Radio Season) There's quite a few HF rigs around here for sale if you're looking for one let me know and I'll get the details on them.
T.

wildbillg
09-29-2007, 08:56 AM
for all of you that still need to hear her telling the time..
when your in Havasu you can just dial 453-3000 area code 928 ..
:)
you will have to listen to a lil commercial first.....:jawdrop:

DILLIGAF
10-03-2007, 09:27 AM
Dating myself a bit here but I got hired as an operator by the phone company prior to divestiture. I was just like Lilly Tomlin as I worked on one of the last cord boards in CA. I have an old cord board switchboard in my office. I really enjoyed my job and it was fun all the time. Back then you could plug in to specific prefixes and my hometown had one. I used to mess with neighbors all the time. This was prior to 911 service being implemented in Monterey County. Got some great stories about calls that would come in and so forth. We could also just flip a switch and listen in to the phone calls.
Allan Funt from Candid Camera was a major asshole to all the operators. He lived in Carmel Valley and always made P2P collect calls and was just rude. Nothing like when he was on air.
It was always fun when the Crosby tournament was going on. I would make sure to pick up the calls from the Lodge in Pebble Beach as I got to speak to a lot of PGA professionals and stars.
There wasn't very many men as operators back then and the ladies used to tell me how nice it was to talk to a "young man". Opened up a lot of doors if you know what I mean :)
I worked with a lot of women and had a ball.
To this day I am still in the phone/data bizzzzzzzzzzzzz....................

DILLIGAF
10-03-2007, 09:43 AM
LOL, so was my mom. I never thought to do that though. I remember her having to work on Christmas and Thanksgiving, though. That was a bummer.
I always worked the holidays as I was able to get "shorts". Shorts were 6 hour shifts that started at 4:15P and it included 2 15 minute breaks and a 1/2hour lunch and you got paid for an 8 hour shift. On holidays you got paid for 20 hours (2.5 time) for working 5 hours. Too good of money to pass up for me. They even brought in a spread of food for everyone. One more thing I just remembered is that back then the phone company would pick up you taxi cab fare if you worked shorts. How can you pass that up? My starting pay back then was $146.50 per week.
:)