The best half ton trucks

[HPBoats83]

What is the best half ton out there? Is it a silverado / sierra with a 6.0? Is the 6.0 much different then the 5.3? How about towing with the sierra denali's which I believe has a 400HP 6.2 or a Lincoln MT (i believe it is). Does anybody have a titan or a new tundra, how are they?

[AZJD]

If you got the $$$$$$$ GMC Dinali w/duramax. Otherwise......and I hate to say it! Toyota!

[HPBoats83]

I didn't even know they made a denali with a duramax. :idea:

[gramps]

I didn't even know they made a denali with a duramax. :idea:
Me neither. If anyone has info pass it on.

[uvindex]

I didn't even know they made a denali with a duramax. :idea:I didn't know there was a half-ton truck with a Duramax. :D

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

I have a new Tundra with the 5.7....385 hp and six speed trans. TONS of power! It pulls our 21' Shockwave with no problem...I've towed at 90 mph, no problem, very comfortable. We stiil have a Chevy with the 5.3, now it feels like a V-6 :D

[HPBoats83]

I have a new Tundra with the 5.7....385 hp and six speed trans. TONS of power! It pulls our 21' Shockwave with no problem...I've towed at 90 mph, no problem, very comfortable. We stiil have a Chevy with the 5.3, now it feels like a V-6 :D
I have an 05' with a 5.3 and am all in all very satisfied with it's power. I am looking to move up from my 24' in the next year (during the period which I have this next truck) so I want to make sure I get the best one. I don't want a diesel because i drive alot and need better mileagle then 14 average. Right now I average 16-17mpg with my 5.3.

[milkmoney]

i have a 2006 gmc sierra with 6.0 and other than gas mileage the power is more than enough towing a 5500+ boat and trailer whaen no trailer hooked on i have to watch how i drive will spin tires real easy everytime.

[YeLLowBoaT]

The new tundra is having lots of probs( what a shock, new model, I would never buy the 1st model of any car or truck)Every thing from rods breaking to tranny issuses.
Personally I would buy a F-150,but the 1500 searies from GM is fine too.

[sigepmock]

I'm a huge Chevy fan but I have to say for a 1/2 ton the Toyota is the ticket right now.
The Denali trucks are getting crappy milage with that 400HP motor. The Tundra also rides really nice and the interior is very plush. We've even got a couple of them as "test trucks" in our company fleet and the guys love them so far for the power, comfort, and MPG.
PS No duramax in the 1/2 tons until 09 or later and it will be a smaller DMax from what I've read.
Just my $.02,
Chris

[Troy McClure]

I have the Denali with the 6.0, pulls the boat (27 Daytona) in and out no problem. Has full time 4X and chirps the front tires a little on hard accel (while towing or pulling up the ramp) but otherwise works awesome. I don't pull too far though.....

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

The new tundra is having lots of probs( what a shock, new model, I would never buy the 1st model of any car or truck)Every thing from rods breaking to tranny issuses.
Personally I would buy a F-150,but the 1500 searies from GM is fine too.
They had some camshaft issues when they first came out, haven't heard of any tranny issues and I hang out on the Tundra boards... F 150 will be a new model next year, might wanna wait till '09 ;)

[2Driver]

What is the best half ton out there? Is it a silverado / sierra with a 6.0? Is the 6.0 much different then the 5.3? How about towing with the sierra denali's which I believe has a 400HP 6.2 or a Lincoln MT (i believe it is). Does anybody have a titan or a new tundra, how are they?
I have the Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4x4 Votec Max 6.0 with the 410 gears and HD tranny. After years of the 5.3 I can tell you it is a huge difference. I get about 16 MPG around town. I towed to Havi last weekend pulling about 5,500lbs and got 11MPG. Rides great. Got it from Jay. Best 1/2 ton IMO

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

I have an 05' with a 5.3 and am all in all very satisfied with it's power. I am looking to move up from my 24' in the next year (during the period which I have this next truck) so I want to make sure I get the best one. I don't want a diesel because i drive alot and need better mileagle then 14 average. Right now I average 16-17mpg with my 5.3.
Our mixed driving is about 15 mpg, towing is about ten...I tend to lead foot a bit when I'm towing :D

[HPBoats83]

I have the Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4x4 Votec Max 6.0 with the 410 gears and HD tranny. After years of the 5.3 I can tell you it is a huge difference. I get about 16 MPG around town. I towed to Havi last weekend pulling about 5,500lbs and got 11MPG. Rides great. Got it from Jay. Best 1/2 ton IMO
At this point my first choice would be an avalanche or a sierra both with the 6.0!

[BajaMike]

I have the Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4x4 Votec Max 6.0 with the 410 gears and HD tranny. After years of the 5.3 I can tell you it is a huge difference. I get about 16 MPG around town. I towed to Havi last weekend pulling about 5,500lbs and got 11MPG. Rides great. Got it from Jay. Best 1/2 ton IMO
that would would be my pick for a 1/2 ton truck...exactly!
:idea:

[caroftheweek]

I have an 05' with a 5.3 and am all in all very satisfied with it's power. I am looking to move up from my 24' in the next year (during the period which I have this next truck) so I want to make sure I get the best one. I don't want a diesel because i drive alot and need better mileagle then 14 average. Right now I average 16-17mpg with my 5.3.
who said diesels get 14mpg?
Mine gets 17-18 mixed driving and i only have 6000 miles on it. It has been improving every thousand miles since I hit 2000 miles. you should look at a diesel especially if you drive alot

[2Driver]

At this point my first choice would be an avalanche or a sierra both with the 6.0!
Don’t do the Avalanche IMO. They are pigs and I believe they do not have a HD tranny like the votec max and they tow miserably. I had the 5.3 and it would barely tow my 21'. My buddy got the 2007 Avi and it does not tow any better even with the extra HP and 410's. They are big, heavy and the torque is just not there in the same delivery.

[spectras only]

While my 03 Navigator isn't really a truck , it sits on a 1/2 T F -150 hydroformed frame and the reg paper states it as
a 1/2 T . It has the Intech engine [ 32 V DOHC ] with 90% of max torque available at 1700 rpm ;) . It has fully independent air suspension with rollover protection system . Rear discs are 13.5" , front is 13" . I tow my boat/trailer [ 8380 lbs] everywhere including up steep mountains to the Okanagan Valley .It has every available option except retracting stepboards. 48 K miles on it with no issues .I like the Lincoln truck , but that doesn't fit in my garage that's 19' in length inside .
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Toys.jpg

[cyclone]

Ive been driving an '07 Tundra 5.7L Double Cab. Its an amazing truck. Tons of options, gets 19 mpg on the highway, 14-15 in the city and 13-15 with my boat behind it. Tons of power and it rides like a car. love that truck.

[beaverretriever]

I have an 07 Chevy Crew Cab (new body style). I absolutely love it. I have the 5.3 and the mileage is awesome. We have seen over 20mpg a few times. Our boat is extremely light, so I can't really give you real world towing info.
It is by far the best riding truck I have ever owned. I have owned a 2006 Ford, 2005 Dodge, and a 2001 Chevy in the last 3 yrs and none of them can compare to this truck in ride quality.
I am sure the Toyota is a good truck, but I couldn't live with the looks. :(

[cnj]

I'll throw in a plug for Dodge. I had a 2003 Hemi Ram 1500 4x4. It yanked around our 21' Ultra like it wasn't even there. Not great on the mpg tho'. Only 16.5 on the freeway. No problems w/ the truck for the 2 years I owned it. I drove an '06 F-150 with the 5.4 and tow pkg.......totally anemic. I have heard alot of good things about the Chevy.

[angry dad]

I bought the f-150 Great Truck. American made. Pulls my trailer and toys to Glamis, no problums!! I Will buy Ford again!! I would NEVER buy Rice!!!.

[Riverhound]

I have the Chevy 1500 Crewcab 4x4 Votec Max 6.0 with the 410 gears and HD tranny. After years of the 5.3 I can tell you it is a huge difference. I get about 16 MPG around town. I towed to Havi last weekend pulling about 5,500lbs and got 11MPG. Rides great. Got it from Jay. Best 1/2 ton IMO
I bought the same the truck recently and comptlely agree... I had a 2003 2500 HD and this thing handles loads and tows every bit as good.

[HPBoats83]

who said diesels get 14mpg?
Mine gets 17-18 mixed driving and i only have 6000 miles on it. It has been improving every thousand miles since I hit 2000 miles. you should look at a diesel especially if you drive alot
I have heard such mixed responsed on the diesels as far as the mpg is concerned! I really would like one over all, especially if they were getting
17+MPG. Most of what I have heard is that the diesels are getting about 13 and 14ish. I might be wrong and hope I am.
James

[mbrown2]

I got rid of an 04 Duramax about 4 months ago...if I buy another truck it will the the Chevy Crew Vortec Max or a Tundra...the 3/4 ton trucks are a pain as a daily driver and the diesel makes it no better...they are great if you are towing every weekend, but I don't....Normally just need for around town stuff and the occasional tow...
Had a 2000 Tundra and 2002 Ford F150 and both drove night and day smoother and more car like then the Duramax....as does my brothers new LT2 1/2 Silverado....3/4 and 1 ton trucks are work trucks and drive like such...but if you are looking at a daily driver I would skip the diesel...
They have more power during towing but the whole gas saving idea around them went out the window a couple years ago as diesel is a much as premium and you only need to run 87 in the gassers....My .02

[HocusPocus]

I'll throw in a plug for Dodge. I had a 2003 Hemi Ram 1500 4x4. It yanked around our 21' Ultra like it wasn't even there. Not great on the mpg tho'. Only 16.5 on the freeway. No problems w/ the truck for the 2 years I owned it. I drove an '06 F-150 with the 5.4 and tow pkg.......totally anemic. I have heard alot of good things about the Chevy.
I currently have an '05, 1500, 4X4 with the hemi , good power and mileage around town is around 12. i have owned it since new and now have 42K miles on it without any problems. In the past i have owned Chevys, Fords and my first truck was a Toyota and i can't say anything bad about any of the ones I have had. Test drive them all and see what you get the most bang for your buck.

[HPBoats83]

I'm a little suprised that nobody has mentioned the Titan, what are people hearing on that truck? Has anybody towed with the Lincoln truck?

[Baja Big Dog]

Are you really gonna buy a truck based on what we tell you???:confused:

[HPBoats83]

No I just want to hear what other people's experiences are. I can't just walk up to a dealer and say, "OK, let me hook up this 10k load and see how it tows!"

[rvr_d8]

My 1500 HD Silverado (6.0) does quite well towing. I'm happy with it....just my 2 cents. :)

[rvr_d8]

Are you really gonna buy a truck based on what we tell you???:confused:
Hey there Baja.....I see you still have my puppy ..... take good care of him:D

[BajaMike]

While my 03 Navigator isn't really a truck , it sits on a 1/2 T F -150 hydroformed frame and the reg paper states it as
a 1/2 T . It has the Intech engine [ 32 V DOHC ] with 90% of max torque available at 1700 rpm ;) . It has fully independent air suspension with rollover protection system . Rear discs are 13.5" , front is 13" . I tow my boat/trailer [ 8380 lbs] everywhere including up steep mountains to the Okanagan Valley .It has every available option except retracting stepboards. 48 K miles on it with no issues .I like the Lincoln truck , but that doesn't fit in my garage that's 19' in length inside .
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Toys.jpg
What's the tow rating on the Navigator?? That boat looks way too big for the Navigator......:idea:

[willowrat]

What is the best half ton out there? Is it a silverado / sierra with a 6.0? Is the 6.0 much different then the 5.3? How about towing with the sierra denali's which I believe has a 400HP 6.2 or a Lincoln MT (i believe it is). Does anybody have a titan or a new tundra, how are they?
I love my new Tundra. It replaced a F-350. It towed my 8100 lb fifth wheel through Yosimiti no problem. It launches my deck boat without issue. I have 5k miles on it with out any issues. I love Toyota quality. I heard in two years they are coming out with a diesal to compete with the Super Duty. Look out!!! The trucks are built in a new facility in Texas.

[OGShocker]

If you want to drive the truck, buy the Chevy. If you want to push the truck, F.O.R.D. is the way to go.:D

[AZJD]

I got rid of an 04 Duramax about 4 months ago...if I buy another truck it will the the Chevy Crew Vortec Max or a Tundra...the 3/4 ton trucks are a pain as a daily driver and the diesel makes it no better...they are great if you are towing every weekend, but I don't....Normally just need for around town stuff and the occasional tow...
Had a 2000 Tundra and 2002 Ford F150 and both drove night and day smoother and more car like then the Duramax....as does my brothers new LT2 1/2 Silverado....3/4 and 1 ton trucks are work trucks and drive like such...but if you are looking at a daily driver I would skip the diesel...
They have more power during towing but the whole gas saving idea around them went out the window a couple years ago as diesel is a much as premium and you only need to run 87 in the gassers....My .02
I will never drive another gasser. Diesel is it for me. Effortless power. Not a gasser on the market that can keep up with it. (truck based:D ) And it has the best mileage pound for pound of any truck in its class. I get 14-15MPG with a lift and 35's. Put a gas motor in that truck and you have to re-gear it and it still gets crap mileage. No brainer......

[jdogginla]

No I just want to hear what other people's experiences are. I can't just walk up to a dealer and say, "OK, let me hook up this 10k load and see how it tows!"
Ummm yes you can. You just tell them you are not going to spend 45k on a truck that you may later find out can't do the job.
I've put many a salesman in an awkward situation......even had one guy take us on a test drive to another dealer and park his car right next to the other car I was considering. Neither guy was willing to trash the others car while they stood in front of each other.

[wright27]

I currently own a 06 F150 and it is a guttless POS. I had a 07 Denali that was a complete let down, and I also owned a 06 Titan which I was very happy with. The Titan has more power than both the F150 and Denali. I have not owned a Toyota or driven one so I can't say, but if you like the Titan I give it two thumbs up.

[LAFD]

i have a 03 dodge hemi and its tows like a mofo. granted i have 456's with a locker and some other power adders but i have no complaints at all. very nice inside back seats dont have the most room but still nice. maybe just me but you might want to bump up to 3/4 ton if your towing 10k pounds. most i towed with mine was around 6k. its rated for 8700 i beleive but i wouldnt push it.

[wright27]

No I just want to hear what other people's experiences are. I can't just walk up to a dealer and say, "OK, let me hook up this 10k load and see how it tows!"
If you are towing 10k IMO you would be crazy to buy a half ton. Everyone has different opinions on what towing it with no problems is. I say pulling one of the grades on the 40 frwy at 60-65 mph at 3800-4000 rpm is a problem. Get a duramax diesel for that weight. They will surprise you on gas milage. I would get 13 MPG towing my 15000lb 5th wheel. My buddy has a V-10 and gets 9MPG and you will pull the same grades at 80mph if you want to go that fast and be doing 2000 rpm getting better milage than a 6.0, 5.4, 6.2 ect...

[2Driver]

For sure. My rule of thumb is to not generally tow over 75% of the tow rating. Past that I go to the next truck up. ;)

[Wet Dream]

I have a new Tundra with the 5.7....385 hp and six speed trans. TONS of power! It pulls our 21' Shockwave with no problem...I've towed at 90 mph, no problem, very comfortable. We stiil have a Chevy with the 5.3, now it feels like a V-6 :D
Now tell us what kind of fuel mileage you're getting out of that. :D

[Baja Big Dog]

Hey there Baja.....I see you still have my puppy ..... take good care of him:D
Hey d8, where ya been? People ask about him all the time!!:D

[rivercrazy]

I also have a 2007 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 4X4 with the 381hp 5.7L V8.
The truck has 15K miles on it and not one issue. Its as tight as a drum. I've done alot of towing and hauling with it ranging from a 25' Shockwave (6,000 wet) to toyhaulers on caming trips throughout the eastern sierra (approx 7K lbs+). It handles these loads effortlessly. Never drops below 55mph up all those grades between Bishop and Bridgeport.
Gas mileage is pretty impressive as well given engine displacement, hp/torque, and weight of the truck. Empty, I'm averaging 15-16mpg in town and 16-19mpg on highway trips (at 75-82mph).
All in all, its the best 1/2 ton pickup I've owned or ridden in.

[HPBoats83]

If you are towing 10k IMO you would be crazy to buy a half ton. Everyone has different opinions on what towing it with no problems is. I say pulling one of the grades on the 40 frwy at 60-65 mph at 3800-4000 rpm is a problem. Get a duramax diesel for that weight. They will surprise you on gas milage. I would get 13 MPG towing my 15000lb 5th wheel. My buddy has a V-10 and gets 9MPG and you will pull the same grades at 80mph if you want to go that fast and be doing 2000 rpm getting better milage than a 6.0, 5.4, 6.2 ect...
I wasn't infering that I have a 10k pound boat (currently my boat only weighs 5,000ish), I was using that as more of an example. I would like to move up to a bigger boat maybe next year so I would like to have a serious look at towing now so I can plan ahead.

[Trailer Park Casanova]

Neighbor sold his toybox hauler.
A couple from Las Vegas picked up the new Tundra, and drove straight out here from LV, then paid cash for the toyhauler.
They had no clue about load equalizing hitches, elect trailer brakes ect,, so the neighbor and I set their new Tundra up.
I then test tow'd the Tundra with the 8500 lb + toybox, driving it all over our hilly twisty neighborhood to make sure the Prodigy brake controller was dialed in.
The colossal power and the nice handling of the new Tundra blindsided us.
A really teriffic truck. Incredable power and towing ability.
I would definately buy one if we were in the 1/2 ton market.
Built at Toyotatown, Texas, USA.
If Toyota ever brings out a 3/4 or 1 ton,, that'll be it for one of the big three.

[spectras only]

What's the tow rating on the Navigator?? That boat looks way too big for the Navigator......:idea:
9000 lbs in 2 WD . It tows effortless ;) and it gets 19 mpg average the on the highway without towing , 13.5 mpg in the city . I use the WD torsion bars for long distance trips on my way to the Okanagan only .There are many hairpins and high grade slopes on the Hope Princeton highway .
I've been trailering for 40 yrs and had only one bearing failure with my 1972 Vance trailer towing my 24 spectra .

[2Driver]

...I've towed at 90 mph, no problem, very comfortable. We stiil have a Chevy with the 5.3, now it feels like a V-6 :D
What trailer tires are rated for 90 MPH? :jawdrop:

[mbrown2]

I will never drive another gasser. Diesel is it for me. Effortless power. Not a gasser on the market that can keep up with it. (truck based:D ) And it has the best mileage pound for pound of any truck in its class. I get 14-15MPG with a lift and 35's. Put a gas motor in that truck and you have to re-gear it and it still gets crap mileage. No brainer...... I think lifting and bigger tires screw the gas and ride on gassers and diesels alike and that is a no brainer....the only plus with diesel is you don't normally have to re-gear due to the higher torque rating...
I have had three stock then lifted trucks in 7 years and can confirm that they all rode worse after lifting....you get a little rosey eyed cause the lift looked cool....but particularly during towing the experience was not as well as stock or stock with airbags.......Fabtech, Rancho and CST lifts respectively...all made ride worse then stock and eventually put more stress on the parts...ball joints, shocks, constant balancing, and or re-alignments.....
As for what is faster, I am thinking in stock form, a Tundra will beat a HD2500 0-60.....yes, you can chip the Diesel and do all sorts of things to it, but in stock form...I don't think a Duramax bests the Tundra's 0-60 6.3 time....Towing or with loads yes, but that is not what I use the truck on a daily basis for....In addition, I don't know the time, but would assume the Denali truck with the 400hp would also bests the 2500 0-60 in stock form...
My gas mileage with the Duramax was better prior to lifting and the 35's but I did like the power I still had and I was not even chipped....If I get another truck if will be a tough choice between a diesel and gasser....

[Mattman]

I also have a 2007 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 4X4 with the 381hp 5.7L V8.
The truck has 15K miles on it and not one issue. Its as tight as a drum. I've done alot of towing and hauling with it ranging from a 25' Shockwave (6,000 wet) to toyhaulers on caming trips throughout the eastern sierra (approx 7K lbs+). It handles these loads effortlessly. Never drops below 55mph up all those grades between Bishop and Bridgeport.
Gas mileage is pretty impressive as well given engine displacement, hp/torque, and weight of the truck. Empty, I'm averaging 15-16mpg in town and 16-19mpg on highway trips (at 75-82mph).
All in all, its the best 1/2 ton pickup I've owned or ridden in.
If I may ask, what should I expect to pay for this rig?

[RiverDave]

What's the tow rating on the Navigator?? That boat looks way too big for the Navigator......:idea:
BajaMike, Navigators will pull alot more then people think. I've pulled more random shit with my Navi, then most anyone I know that has Diesels.. LOL
Mine also is a 2000, with 200,000 miles on it!! No real problems to date.
That boat in the picture doesn't look to big to me?
RD

[Wet Dream]

What trailer tires are rated for 90 MPH? :jawdrop:
Tires aren't rated to come unglued at a certain mph. The ratings are given for a sustained mph, temp and load. Its very unlikely that 90 mph is sustained for any amount of time when towing. Check that against a moving time average. While smaller tires spin faster and have a higher RPM (revolutions per mile), they have less mass trying to pull them apart at high speeds compared to, say 20" tires.

[rivercrazy]

If I may ask, what should I expect to pay for this rig?
Depends on what variant your looking for. Mine is a 5.7Lv8/6speed tranny, Crewmax, 4X4, SR5. I picked it up for $850 over invoice at Longo (over $3K off sticker). This was before the rebates were introduced. Before tax, it was around $31-32K.

[Mattman]

Thx for the info.

[rlj676]

If you are serious about towing 10,000 lbs in the future, than go Superduty. If not really going to tow that much wait for 09 F-150.
Those Tundra's are ugly and appearantly experiencing multiple problems, and I still can't believe people in this country's love of toyota on the coast.

[wright27]

If you are serious about towing 10,000 lbs in the future, than go Superduty. If not really going to tow that much wait for 09 F-150.
Those Tundra's are ugly and appearantly experiencing multiple problems, and I still can't believe people in this country's love of toyota on the coast.
Toyota owners are all part of the same cult.:D

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

Now tell us what kind of fuel mileage you're getting out of that. :D
Hard to tell, the electronic odometer lighting went out six months after we replaced the tranny.....:mad:
I'd guess about 3mpg better than the Toyota..... 17 mixed, 13-14 towing

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

Those Tundra's are ugly and appearantly experiencing multiple problems, and I still can't believe people in this country's love of toyota on the coast.
"multiple problems" ???... Like what?

[spectras only]

"multiple problems" ???... Like what?
What he probably meant is [ DOHC] double cams :idea: :)

[HammerDown]

I will never drive another gasser. Diesel is it for me. Effortless power. Not a gasser on the market that can keep up with it. (truck based:D ) And it has the best mileage pound for pound of any truck in its class. I get 14-15MPG with a lift and 35's. Put a gas motor in that truck and you have to re-gear it and it still gets crap mileage. No brainer......
It's foolish owning a diesel in todays world unless you're working that engine on a daily basis. Using it as a grocery getter is simply pissing $$$ away.
Right now in my area, diesel fuel is some .60 cents higher then regular grade gas, and it's not even the winter months! +$4.00 a gallon will hit us here soon!:220v:
I've had a diesel since the 80's and really enjoyed it but now...I can't wait to sell it!
I'll be in the market for something that burns regular grade gas! Maybe the new 09 F150.

[HammerDown]

"multiple problems" ???... Like what?
Rumble Strip feeling in some Trans.
Cam Shafts (fixed) I think???
Tailgate.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...portsSays.aspx
I thought about one however...when I did the test drive the abundance of cheap feeling plastic everywhere, the very thin carpets and upholstery and that joke of a frame sent me running. Simply going over some RR Trax made the truck nervous.
However the leater seats, brakes were very nice.
*Thinking about the new 09 F150;)

[Mattman]

So what's with the '09 F-150's. Anyone know what's going to be different?

[cc322]

http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-f-150-future.html

[rlj676]

So what's with the '09 F-150's. Anyone know what's going to be different?
I've got some "ideas." That camo'd truck is hard to get a feel for the looks though. Front end is a bit "expeditionish." It looks good.
The article linked above is probably accurate on drivetrains, with a possible deisel option I think.
The platinum trim level will be very nice for a truck.

[willowrat]

Toyota owners are all part of the same cult.:D
My F-350 had it's third transmission before 5000 miles. I'm going with Toyota.

[wright27]

My F-350 had it's third transmission before 5000 miles. I'm going with Toyota.
Uh Oh!! Another one going to the Toyota cult.:D

[ChumpChange]

who said diesels get 14mpg?
Mine gets 17-18 mixed driving and i only have 6000 miles on it. It has been improving every thousand miles since I hit 2000 miles. you should look at a diesel especially if you drive alot
I second this comment. I get great mileage with my Duramax.

[Cole Trickle]

I am happy with the 07 (classic) 1500 Z71 we bought from jay. It's my 3rd 5.3 truck since 03 and they have been nearly flawless. This truck suffers alot more tq managment than my previous trucks but still feels ok pulling.(If it was my truck I would have mods and a tune done yesterday;))
The truck gets 15 mpg around town and 18 on the highway
I havent driven the new Tundra and I can't stand the looks or interior but I think you will be hard pressed to find a more powerfull 1/2 ton. 6.0 HO GM motor is strong but the Toyota still dominates with a better tranny and 30 more rwhp.
Our families 06 F350 has been perfect and gets 17+ MPG on the freeway

[HammerDown]

So what's with the '09 F-150's. Anyone know what's going to be different?
With the F150 being the best selling truck for some 30 years there is a buzz in the air about this one.;) I saw the dash layout on another Forum...looked pretty busy but I like switches and buttins:D No idea on the new exterior look but I'm sure it will look great and not have any slanted headlights.