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Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 02:51 PM
My neighbor walks by a few nights ago with his wife and says, well the neighbors took a poll and your daughter will be the first pregnant one on the block. ( She's only 13 ! ) I'm completely dumbfounded and assume he's talking out his ass.
Last night my neighbors across the street come over and he says the same thing about my kid. They have no idea how to react, but they let us know what he said to em.
Naturally, I can't kick his ass without him suing me, so, what step would you take next without worrying about him crying to the cops?
The guy has no kids and blows up balloons at kids parties. Kinda freaky, but he's got a wife who sees all this.
Am I concerned about nothing?

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm kinda pissed off that a 50 year old neighbor would start walking around from neighbor to neighbor and betting that my 13 year old will be the first one pregnant on the block.
In my eyes, it's my kid and I see the statement as him calling her a *****.
Im puzzled as to what would make him even think of such a load of crap.

42' johnny
12-02-2007, 03:02 PM
I see no problem with a punch in the face.
Yes, I have spent a night or two in jail.
It would be worth it.
42
p.s. or you could just ignore.....................:(

XtrmWakeborder
12-02-2007, 03:02 PM
Sounds like he's callin her a *****... I'm supprised u lasted this long without hitting him. Ask him why the fock he cares so much. I'd prolly just go scare him a bit. Make him shut his mouth.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 03:04 PM
Kick his ass. I am not kidding.
Him saying that means he is thinking impure thoughts about her, such as sex.
Again, kick his ass next time he is in front of your house.
She is 13, he is a pervert and a busybody. Kick his ass.
When the cops come tell them he is saying sexual inuendos' about your 13 year old daughter. He will be labeled as a pervert.
Balloons at partys? Kick his ass. Your friends across the street heard it too.
Tommy

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Not so easy with him as he's famous for looking for freebies. You see, he's a renter and has nothing to lose, me, everything. You think his wife wouldnt have backed his side of the story.
Life now is about litigation whether you are right or wrong.

RitcheyRch
12-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Cant believe someone would say that about a young girl. Not sure why I would do but am guessing would have hit him in the mouth as long as there are no witnesses.

Kazanski
12-02-2007, 03:06 PM
That's pretty f-ed up that this guy is passing judgment on your daughter...If I were in your shoes I'd be pretty pissed too especially when he makes his thoughts known to others...ShockwaveBob's reaction seems pretty legitimate especially when it comes to sticking up for your kids! :devil:

Boozer
12-02-2007, 03:06 PM
Sounds like he's a sh*tty and miserable old man.
Take pride in knowing your life and your situation could be much worse. You could be a 50 year old man who's so desperate for attention and bullsh*t he has to go around polling the neighbors on whos 13 year old kid will be the first become pregnant. Sounds like the guys a low life POS who lives a very miserable existance.
You can also find a local punk who'll bust his knees for you with a 2X4 for $50.

HDF WATERDOG
12-02-2007, 03:07 PM
I agree with all the above. I'd hit him for sure. Really hard too.

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 03:10 PM
I shoulda done it when he said it last week, but I was stunned at the whole comment.
Now, after the fact, it's a little more difficult to just walk to his house and sock him.
I was tempted to go there and just let him know to stay away from her and our house as a whole.

finsfan4life
12-02-2007, 03:11 PM
Dude, walk over to that 50 year old POS and say "we also took a poll, we all voted you will be that first one arrested for child pornagraphy you ****en asshole !!!". I would also check the Megan Law website, he's probably listed on there. !!!!

Kazanski
12-02-2007, 03:12 PM
I shoulda done it when he said it last week, but I was stunned at the whole comment.
Now, after the fact, it's a little more difficult to just walk to his house and sock him.
I was tempted to go there and just let him know to stay away from her and our house as a whole.
If it happens again, or other comments are made, you could probably try for a restraining order (if you want to go about it legally)

thatguy
12-02-2007, 03:18 PM
Don't be afraid of jail. You won't lose your assets for smacking a pervert. In fact, if you just bitch slap him, it would actually be better than a full blown a*s whipping. If you really don't want to wallop the guy, just call the cops and tell them He is saying lewd remarks about your 13 year old daughter.
They don't like that.
Tommy

IMPATIENT 1
12-02-2007, 03:23 PM
I WOULD PHUCK THE DUDE UP AND DEAL WITH IT AFTERWARDS:mad: my best friend lost a tooth once for callin my wife a bitch, let someone say something about my daughter. i will go to jail for my family and i would kick that dudes ass for talking shit about my daughter.#1 job of a father is to protect, that's from mental or physical damage. kick that s.o.b. till you jam a toe, then switch feet.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 03:27 PM
I WOULD PHUCK THE DUDE UP AND DEAL WITH IT AFTERWARDS:mad: my best friend lost a tooth once for callin my wife a bitch, let someone say something about my daughter. i will go to jail for my family and i would kick that dudes ass for talking shit about my daughter.#1 job of a father is to protect, that's from mental or physical damage. kick that s.o.b. till you jam a toe, then switch feet.
Abso-phucking-lutley!!

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 03:30 PM
I understand the protect your kids deal and I do, but I am having a hard time with it now since I did not react with a punch when it happened. I have no idea why I didnt react, but now it seems too late to react the way I shoulda.
Granted a simple sock woulda shut him up at the time, but it's a little different now, IMO.

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 03:34 PM
BTW , these are the same couple whose wife socked my kid last year and I ended up getting in her face and telling her to stay the fock away. She said she was playing around and drunk.
If you cant tell, my blood pressure is at the boiling point and I'm pissed I didnt react right away.

Havasu_Dreamin
12-02-2007, 03:36 PM
Wow...not sure what to say...but I'm also not a parent...Obviously the guy was out of line, way out of line...I'd let it go, if you can, certainly understandable if you can't...But as you said, tis a litigious society nowadays...Document whatever you can and maybe at some point you can get a restraining order...

thatguy
12-02-2007, 03:38 PM
You are overthinking this. It is not too late, it is overdue.
Tommy

Boozer
12-02-2007, 03:43 PM
BTW , these are the same couple whose wife socked my kid last year and I ended up getting in her face and telling her to stay the fock away. She said she was playing around and drunk.
If you cant tell, my blood pressure is at the boiling point and I'm pissed I didnt react right away.
You reacted the right way.
How stressful is the current ordeal for you? How stressful is it for your family?
Now how stressful would it be if you resorted to violence with this neighbor? Your kids seeing you hauled off to jail, your wife having to bail you out of jail. Lost time from your business, lost focus from your business.
How about all the time you lose from your life overall going to court for criminal and civil reasons...
In the end it's easier and less expensive to suck it up and get on with your life.
Or hire Shockwavebob to take him down, he'll do it for $25.
I have a horrible temper and it's landed me in trouble more times then I care to admit. Had I been an adult and acted like an adult I'd have saved a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of stress.
You have everything to lose and he has nothing to lose. Don't risk it.

MBlaster
12-02-2007, 03:45 PM
I'll play the other side, so don't get pissed at me.
But do the neighbors know something that you don't?

IMPATIENT 1
12-02-2007, 03:50 PM
You are overthinking this. It is not too late, it is overdue.
Tommy
your a 100% correct, if not corrected IT WILL GET WORSE. i will not fight if someone calls me names , but will if touched. i'm a man and i think its funny to get in someone's face, we don't do that here, we fight, then talk to the police. i've had my ass kicked, i've kicked some ass, but when i knew i had to fight, i didn't talk or yell in the dudes face, i plant a fist in his nose or grill;) if he falls, i'll leave a nike swoosh or 2 on the face:D i'm 32 now and i'd hate to have to fight anymore, but i know i will cause i have 3 kids, not looking forward to it but i won't back away either.
tell a neighbor who he knows that his wife is a __ut, that should get him back in your yard;)

gramps
12-02-2007, 03:52 PM
I think it's time to make life so miserable for him and his wife they would want to move out of the neighborhood.

IMPATIENT 1
12-02-2007, 03:53 PM
I'll play the other side, so don't get pissed at me.
But do the neighbors know something that you don't?
sounds like the dude is a potential pedifile to me. who thinks that much about another guy's kid otherwise? or talks about it as much. i'm hopeing he's not covering his tracks for something he's done or plannin to do.

WestTNRiverRat
12-02-2007, 03:53 PM
Just make sure there are no witnesses. Kick his fukkin teeth out of his head.Your word against his.

MBlaster
12-02-2007, 03:56 PM
, well the neighbors took a poll and your daughter will be the first pregnant one on the block.
Thats the part that has me worried.

IMPATIENT 1
12-02-2007, 03:56 PM
I think it's time to make life so miserable for him and his wife they would want to move out of the neighborhood.
sodium silicate(liquid glass) does wonders in a gas tank or so i've seen working for dealerships:D valves seem to stick reallllllly fast;) you wouldn't believe what some people have taught me trying to get a buy back thru general motors, people are sneaky, but we're trained to catch it;)

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 03:59 PM
Ok, so you're pissed, as is everyone else who has responded so far. The guy took a poll (which is creepy), and your neighbors responded. Your neighbors think your daughter is careless, defiant and sleeping around, or will be soon. Are you pissed because they might see what you might not? 13 seems so young, but kids are having sex at that age. This ain't your parents kind of town anymore. I'm finding it hard to understand why you want to beat up some dummy. What the hell is that going to get you? Gotta love the simple minds that think violence is the way to go. You should spend that energy finding out why the neighbors think your daughter has "ho" potential. Ask her, get her take, ask the neighbors what they see when you aren't home.

Dribble
12-02-2007, 04:00 PM
I would (and have in a similar situation) tell him that if he ever says another word about your daughter that he will spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair sh*tting into a bag on his side.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:01 PM
You reacted the right way.
How stressful is the current ordeal for you? How stressful is it for your family?
Now how stressful would it be if you resorted to violence with this neighbor? Your kids seeing you hauled off to jail, your wife having to bail you out of jail. Lost time from your business, lost focus from your business.
How about all the time you lose from your life overall going to court for criminal and civil reasons...
In the end it's easier and less expensive to suck it up and get on with your life.
Or hire Shockwavebob to take him down, he'll do it for $25.
I have a horrible temper and it's landed me in trouble more times then I care to admit. Had I been an adult and acted like an adult I'd have saved a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of stress.
You have everything to lose and he has nothing to lose. Don't risk it.
I understand your reasoning, but must respectfully disagree with you.
I have a very even temper, and rarely ever resort to confrontation. BUT, there are times when it is required. An insult such as was made about his daughter is so over the line it is crazy.
Kids need to know they are safe and protected also, and that "Dad" will take care of the danger.
Last year a kid of 17 came to my door with a line about a school project. It quickly became apparent to me that this little tweaker (believe me, he looked it) was casing the house, asking about my hours and stuff. I told him to get off and stay off my property. All of this was in front of my 14 year old stepson. The kid backed off the porch and started walking away yelling at me and cursing me. I ran out and tackled him, hit him HARD twice in the face, twisted his arm behind him and drug him all the way to the end of my driveway. There I hit him again and left him lay.
Yes, the cops came. Guess what? He went to Juvie, I stayed home, and the stepson learned that a man protects his family and property from shitheads. I think that is a more important lesson.
IMHO? He has probably harrased the girl already and she is waiting for Dad to do something. You are right, He does have everything to lose. Namely the respect of his Wife and Daughter.
Tommy

NashvilleBound
12-02-2007, 04:03 PM
That is so wrong. Taking the poll in itself is wrong but telling the parents.... damn. I would have beat him so bad his kids would have felt it. Then told him its time to retake the poll.........

snake321
12-02-2007, 04:03 PM
Go bang on his back door when his wife isn't home. When he comes out - pound the shit out of him. If it comes down to cops, you can both have a story. This guy called you out sayin that crap to you. You let him get away with it already, he's thinkin that he's king shit.
When he comes out that door, put the boots to him without sayin a word.....

IMPATIENT 1
12-02-2007, 04:06 PM
Go bang on his back door when his wife isn't home. When he comes out - pound the shit out of him. If it comes down to cops, you can both have a story. This guy called you out sayin that crap to you. You let him get away with it already, he's thinkin that he's king shit.
When he comes out that door, put the boots to him without sayin a word.....
he'd never get away with it, its gonna have to happen on daytona's property, defending yourself on your property is almost undisputable in court;)

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:07 PM
Ok, so you're pissed, as is everyone else who has responded so far. The guy took a poll (which is creepy), and your neighbors responded. Your neighbors think your daughter is careless, defiant and sleeping around, or will be soon. Are you pissed because they might see what you might not? 13 seems so young, but kids are having sex at that age. This ain't your parents kind of town anymore. I'm finding it hard to understand why you want to beat up some dummy. What the hell is that going to get you? Gotta love the simple minds that think violence is the way to go. You should spend that energy finding out why the neighbors think your daughter has "ho" potential. Ask her, get her take, ask the neighbors what they see when you aren't home.
Are you kidding me? You really think there was an actual poll? My nieghbors that know me would have slugged the guy just for asking!
This guy made that shit up and is a total scumbag with perverted thoughts about a 13 year old girl.
Give me a freaking break. Thats just great, put the doubt on her.
Tommy

Jetboatguru
12-02-2007, 04:09 PM
Words, they are just words!! Every neighborhood has a busy body and you found yours. Im sure the whole poll thing was overstated and this dude has no clue how brash he comes off. Why evn waste your time and possibly end up in jail because the neighborhood mouth is running amuck? He is probably the guy that reports the house with a trailer parked in the driveway, or the dog that barks too often etc etc. Will this all make a difference a year from now? Good luck.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 04:12 PM
Even if it's true, it's not the kind of thing that you poll the neighborhood about and then report your findings to the parents.
I very seriously doubt he went door to door or anything like that. I'm guessing the topic came up during conversations with neighbors and most responded that 21's daughter would. I can see it as a standing in the driveway convo, or hanging out by the pool kinda thing and it came up. Same thing with the results Who knows, I wasn't there.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:13 PM
I thought he said his neighbor knew about it too.
And they also came and told him. It's his daughter for christs sake, not just some simple mouth garbage.
Tommy

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Are you kidding me? You really think there was an actual poll? My nieghbors that know me would have slugged the guy just for asking!
This guy made that shit up and is a total scumbag with perverted thoughts about a 13 year old girl.
Give me a freaking break. Thats just great, put the doubt on her.
Tommy
No, I'm not kidding, and like I said, I DO NOT think there was an actual poll. You are assuming that the guy made up the shit. The other neighbors knew about it. What aren't you understanding?

photo chick
12-02-2007, 04:17 PM
I didn't read everyone's posts so this may have been mentioned.
Ok..this guy is sick. The job he has even points to pedofile...I'd do a search and contact the police and see if anything has been filed against him, bet something comes up!!
Hitting him would make you feel a lot better but what if he decided to take it out on your daughter...Then you'd want to kill him.

mmered8299
12-02-2007, 04:17 PM
"HB took a poll and everybody wants me to kick your ass." There was an article in the LV paper today about Wayne Newton going into Jonny Carsons office one day and telling him that if he makes anymore jokes about Wayne being gay again that he will kick his ass.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:18 PM
No, I'm not kidding, and like I said, I DO NOT think there was an actual poll. You are assuming that the guy made up the shit. The other neighbors knew about it. What aren't you understanding?
I am not understanding how somebody says that to a parent then walks away smirking and unmolested. Sorry if I am a little slow on the take here.
Tommy

Jetboatguru
12-02-2007, 04:20 PM
I didn't read everyone's posts so this may have been mentioned.
Ok..this guy is sick. The job he has even points to pedofile...I'd do a search and contact the police and see if anything has been filed against him, bet something comes up!!
Hitting him would make you feel a lot better but what if he decided to take it out on your daughter...Then you'd want to kill him.
Marshall Law!! You need to practice some of that yourself sister!:mad:

photo chick
12-02-2007, 04:22 PM
Marshall Law!! You need to practice some of that yourself sister!:mad:
I will in due time bro.... Nice avatar...it's scary ;)

OutCole'd
12-02-2007, 04:24 PM
Shit, I'll do it for $25. :D
:D

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 04:26 PM
It's still pretty weird if you ask me.
I ageree. It is weird how or why it came up. The guy appears questionable to us, but we're getting the one sided story here. I think if the old guy came over and said "I think your daughter..." well, thats one thing, but he came over and said "the neighbors think" or whatever. Forget about what was said, but find out why the neighbors think that way.

coolchange
12-02-2007, 04:29 PM
First of all, How well do you know your daughters habits. Is there even the slightest validity to this? Easy now I'm just tryin to be objective. Next did he try something with her and now is trying to get back at her, or is he testing YOU. My daughter had some perv try to feel her up on a sleep over at a friends house. She was awake pretending to be asleep. Never said anything until a couple of years later she started acting up and just blurted it out. Seems there was others who knew and kept it secret also. I was already loaded and headed out the door before they convinced me the old perv was already dead. Odds are 99.9 % hes just an A hole. But me? I'd find him in an out of the way no witness situation and let him know that if I ever see or hear from him again the next meeting won't be as nice.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:30 PM
I ageree. It is weird how or why it came up. The guy appears questionable to us, but we're getting the one sided story here. I think if the old guy came over and said "I think your daughter..." well, thats one thing, but he came over and said "the neighbors think" or whatever. Forget about what was said, but find out why the neighbors think that way.
I agree, immediatly after stomping him.
Tommy

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 04:33 PM
That is so wrong. Taking the poll in itself is wrong but telling the parents.... damn. I would have beat him so bad his kids would have felt it. Then told him its time to retake the poll.........
Where the **** do you come off with this shit? Seriously. Your A and B grade kid is having drug and alcohol test administered by a parent, but in the same day, you teach him that its ok to go beat the shit out of someone because you don't approve of their actions. That is 100% bullshit.
Don't try pot or have a drink son, but go ahead and beat someone up.
Thats parenting. Holy ****, that just pisses me off.

NashvilleBound
12-02-2007, 04:38 PM
Where the **** do you come off with this shit? Seriously. Your A and B grade kid is having drug and alcohol test administered by a parent, but in the same day, you teach him that its ok to go beat the shit out of someone because you don't approve of their actions. That is 100% bullshit.
Don't try pot or have a drink son, but go ahead and beat someone up.
Thats parenting. Holy ****, that just pisses me off.
Whohhh.... WTF?? What does this have to do with my son driving??? Or being responsible? What kind of parent would not defend their kids? If I was there in front of other parents having a conversation and that came up I would have reached out and touched someone!!! That is SO over the line!!
I stand by my statement. Calling my daughter out is unacceptable.
Oh, and it would have taken the whole crowd to pull me off.

centerhill condor
12-02-2007, 04:51 PM
I shoulda done it when he said it last week, but I was stunned at the whole comment.
Now, after the fact, it's a little more difficult to just walk to his house and sock him.
yea, you've had time to "form intent"...never ever threaten someone with physical violence. Just do it. Don't wait to "form intent"..
Best of luck...
CC

PinkTaco
12-02-2007, 04:52 PM
You should have beat his old ass retarded....:mad: Having said that and knowing that it's a little late for a knee jerk reaction, what's the back story here? You already had problems with his wife punching one of your family members while she was drunk? There's more history here.:idea: Need the info...

thatguy
12-02-2007, 04:52 PM
Where the **** do you come off with this shit? Seriously. Your A and B grade kid is having drug and alcohol test administered by a parent, but in the same day, you teach him that its ok to go beat the shit out of someone because you don't approve of their actions. That is 100% bullshit.
Don't try pot or have a drink son, but go ahead and beat someone up.
Thats parenting. Holy ****, that just pisses me off.
There are "actions" and then there are other "actions". It isn't like the guy stepped on his flowers or something. He didn't piss near his driveway, He didn't key his car.
He made a sexual reference about his daughter, to his face, in front of his own home. What lesson does a kid learn by knowing someone can get away with that?
I firmly believe that in that instance the lesson learned by the child who sees it is that there is a line that can not be crossed in confronting a father about his family and kids. My kids would have wondered who I was if I let that happen. I don't even want to think what my wife would have thought of me.
I do understand your point, but this is just way too far over the line.
It is sad that this is getting over analized like this. Guy said what he did, that kind of thing is just sick, wierd and is asking for a beating from a father.
I don't care what the girls habits are, thats an automatic ass beating. Lest you think I am a chest pounder here, I will tell you I have been in only 2 fights in the last 20 years. Once when a guy I did not know made a very lewd remark to my wife. (That was at Red Bluff actually, in the parking area. Ended in a tie. We both got tired!)
The other was the one I posted in this thread.
I am a very non-violent person. I HATE confrontation. But my family is my responsibility and they have to know that I am up to it.
Tommy

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 04:53 PM
Defending your daughter? How was the daughter put into a position that needs defending? Over words? If it were a physical threat, that would be one thing, but this is a sticks and stones situation. The neighbors think she's a slut, so what. Get over it. The next schoolmate that calls your daughter a ***** at school, are you going to run over there and beat the kid up? Way to go dad. Great job of setting examples.
I'm not defending this guy in any way, but I am pointng out that beating the isn't the best way to resolve anything, but I am trying to get the attention that if more than one neighbor thinks my daughter is a *****, I would find out WHY.

NashvilleBound
12-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Im just taking the story as it was told... yes, there my be more to it and the reaction would have been different. But it was told this way and I would have beat the taste right outta his mouth.... Im not going to back off it.
You never talk shit about ones kids....ever. At least not mine IN FRONT OF OTHERS!! ESPECIALLY like that. Ohhh helllll no.
School talk and drama is a whole different story... thats your "sticks and stones" gig right there.....

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:00 PM
There are "actions" and then there are other "actions". It isn't like the guy stepped on his flowers or something. He didn't piss near his driveway, He didn't key his car.
He made a sexual reference about his daughter, to his face, in front of his own home. What lesson does a kid learn by knowing someone can get away with that?
I firmly believe that in that instance the lesson learned by the child who sees it is that there is a line that can not be crossed in confronting a father about his family and kids. My kids would have wondered who I was if I let that happen. I don't even want to think what my wife would have thought of me.
I do understand your point, but this is just way too far over the line.
It is sad that this is getting over analized like this. Guy said what he did, that kind of thing is just sick, wierd and is asking for a beating from a father.
I don't care what the girls habits are, thats an automatic ass beating. Lest you think I am a chest pounder here, I will tell you I have been in only 2 fights in the last 20 years. Once when a guy I did not know made a very lewd remark to my wife. (That was at Red Bluff actually, in the parking area. Ended in a tie. We both got tired!)
The other was the one I posted in this thread.
I am a very non-violent person. I HATE confrontation. But my family is my responsibility and they have to know that I am up to it.
Tommy
Had the thread started with something like ' this guy comes over to my house after polling the neighbors and they think my daughter is a slut and i knocked him out", then that would be some funny shit right there. But 21 didn't do a damn thing and everyone is telling him to go over and bitch slap him. Thats childish and irresponsible, not to mention criminal. Thats some of the dumbest f'ing advice I've heard on here in a long time.

Baja Big Dog
12-02-2007, 05:04 PM
Lets give a boot to the chest to RD...that will make us all feel better!!!:D

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:05 PM
That's saying something.
I know. I need to get on here a little more often. ;)

thatguy
12-02-2007, 05:10 PM
Had the thread started with something like ' this guy comes over to my house after polling the neighbors and they think my daughter is a slut and i knocked him out", then that would be some funny shit right there. But 21 didn't do a damn thing and everyone is telling him to go over and bitch slap him. Thats childish and irresponsible, not to mention criminal. Thats some of the dumbest f'ing advice I've heard on here in a long time.
I see you have dogs, do you have kids?
I am asking seriously.
Tommy

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:14 PM
I have 3 dogs and 2 kids. Next are you going to ask me if someone said anything about my kids, would I beat them up? If someone were going around town saying my kid is a slut, thats one thing. If someone comes over and said WE think your kid is a slut, thats another, but you have to wonder if anything someone says is worth going to jail over.

FOXMAN
12-02-2007, 05:29 PM
If he said that about my 17 year old daughter.. He would have had to spit out some teeth to continune the conversation..

thatguy
12-02-2007, 05:33 PM
I have 3 dogs and 2 kids. Next are you going to ask me if someone said anything about my kids, would I beat them up? If someone were going around town saying my kid is a slut, thats one thing. If someone comes over and said WE think your kid is a slut, thats another, but you have to wonder if anything someone says is worth going to jail over.
No, I had no intention of asking you anything like that. Not my style. I honestly wondered because you had not mentioned it that I had noticed.
And yes, there are things (including words such as were presented here) worth going to jail for. I must respectfully agree to disagree strongly with you on this.
Semantics aside, and going strictly on how it was presented here, I take it as meant to be inflammmatory and insultive in nature, not informational.
That is why I have the strong opinion that I do. I'm not going to sling insults at you.
It strikes me that this old guy wanted to insult this mans family, and perhaps his ammo is real, but I just could not let him get away with it. Sorry, but I would have decked him. Jail or no jail.
Tommy

2forcefull
12-02-2007, 05:33 PM
I read most of this thread look'n for the punch line,
seriously, there's got to be more to this story.
I would bet that the guy or his wife had some type
of verbal confrontation with the daughter and
she got the best of them. he then went around the neighborhood
say'n what she said, and adding the part about betting she would
come up pregnant and had a few neighbors agree.
obviuosly he's still pack'n baggage from the incident for him
to make the comment, she probley call'd him a little dick faggot
or something and now his pride is hurt.
something started this, and I think your daughter knows
but just in case hes just weird on his own, I would wait and
catch him comming out of 7-11 with a slirpy in his hand
and beat his as$

FOXMAN
12-02-2007, 05:35 PM
I have 3 dogs and 2 kids. Next are you going to ask me if someone said anything about my kids, would I beat them up? If someone were going around town saying my kid is a slut, thats one thing. If someone comes over and said WE think your kid is a slut, thats another, but you have to wonder if anything someone says is worth going to jail over.
I KNOW my daughter isnt a sl@t. Because thats the way she was brought up.. And YES i would spend a night in jail to back up her honor.. And thats because of the way I was brought up!

WILDMAN
12-02-2007, 05:39 PM
Tell him that that you think he made it up because he's mad that you've been porkin his wife! Then maybe he'll swing first.

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 05:41 PM
I appreciate everyones advice on this and yes, I wish I woulda done something then and I'm still steaming about it.
I spoke with my neighbor minutes ago to confirm what was said and yes it was said. Was there a poll, I doubt it. My kids never even outside for him to make a judgement call. So, what many have said is likely true. He has thoughts about it and that is sick enough.
What I am going to do is this : wait for him to come by, which he will, let him say something else derogatory, which he will, and cut loose.
My daughter will be informed to steer clear and not acknowledge this person nor his wife.
My neighbor told me to let it go, but can you really let go of this? Right now, I can say no.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:44 PM
No, I had no intention of asking you anything like that. Not my style. I honestly wondered because you had not mentioned it that I had noticed.
And yes, there are things (including words such as were presented here) worth going to jail for. I must respectfully agree to disagree strongly with you on this.
Semantics aside, and going strictly on how it was presented here, I take it as meant to be inflammmatory and insultive in nature, not informational.
That is why I have the strong opinion that I do. I'm not going to sling insults at you.
It strikes me that this old guy wanted to insult this mans family, and perhaps his ammo is real, but I just could not let him get away with it. Sorry, but I would have decked him. Jail or no jail.
Tommy
I'm not looking for a pissing match. I just think that we might be missing part of this story, that 21 didn't do shit, but its eating at him after a few days, and that going to jail isn't worth the words from an idiot neighbor. Thats all.

Jetboatguru
12-02-2007, 05:44 PM
I appreciate everyones advice on this and yes, I wish I woulda done something then and I'm still steaming about it.
I spoke with my neighbor minutes ago to confirm what was said and yes it was said. Was there a poll, I doubt it. My kids never even outside for him to make a judgement call. So, what many have said is likely true. He has thoughts about it and that is sick enough.
What I am going to do is this : wait for him to come by, which he will, let him say something else derogatory, which he will, and cut loose.
My daughter will be informed to steer clear and not acknowledge this person nor his wife.
My neighbor told me to let it go, but can you really let go of this? Right now, I can say no.
Atta baby!! Post it so it is in print when you knock his teeth out!!

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 05:45 PM
2forcefull, I can say this from always being here. Theres no history, no hidden facts, what he said, being a joke or not, just rubs me the wrong way, and will continue to do so until I correct it.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:46 PM
Atta baby!! Post it so it is in print when you knock his teeth out!!
He's mad, not at his smartest. :D

FOXMAN
12-02-2007, 05:48 PM
I'm not looking for a pissing match. I just think that we might be missing part of this story, that 21 didn't do shit, but its eating at him after a few days, and that going to jail isn't worth the words from an idiot neighbor. Thats all.
Not looking for a pissing match either.. But you must not have any kids yet??

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Not looking for a pissing match either.. But you must not have any kids yet??
I'm not even acknowledging you. I've been busy enough with other dialogue to have to pick up on yours and try to make something of it. Do I have kids? Why don't you take a few moments and read though the whole f'ing thread. Then, you may try to engage me, which at that point, all of your questions should be answered and you may even understand what we're talking about and where I'm coming from. Until then, that all I have for you at this time.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:00 PM
Atta baby!! Post it so it is in print when you knock his teeth out!!
I never saw a word!:eek:

Waist Deep
12-02-2007, 06:04 PM
I'm actually thinking about walking my happy ass down there right now and clarifying to the guy, that he should not speak another word about her. Better yet, move.

Luckie Stiff
12-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Your best bet, drop a dime to the HBPD informing them that you suspect the neighbor of being a possible pedophile, tell them he's said inappropriate things to your 13 y/o daughter, include the fact that his wife socked her, trust me accusations go a long way, he'll be the one with the burden of proof. When he comes knocking on your door to tell you what a POS you are for calling the law, let him rant & rave about it, ask him to leave, when he refuses, bitchslap him with a fire extinguisher, you felt threatened for your safety and the safety of your family.
:idea: :idea: :idea:

FOXMAN
12-02-2007, 06:09 PM
I'm not even acknowledging you. I've been busy enough with other dialogue to have to pick up on yours and try to make something of it. Do I have kids? Why don't you take a few moments and read though the whole f'ing thread. Then, you may try to engage me, which at that point, all of your questions should be answered and you may even understand what we're talking about and where I'm coming from. Until then, that all I have for you at this time.
But you did just that.. And i"m guessing.. no kids???

fiasco
12-02-2007, 06:12 PM
Im with lucky stiff .
Keep your guard up with this freak I have a daughter I feel for you . Do what ever it takes to keep idiot away . Call the cops and tell them whats going on I guarantee you they they will understand , never can be to cautious . Good luck

coolchange
12-02-2007, 06:17 PM
I'm actually thinking about walking my happy ass down there right now and clarifying to the guy, that he should not speak another word about her. Better yet, move.
Now your going to defend her honor AND your manhood. And I see nothing good happening from it. My DAD taught me about waiting a long time, and that the opportunity will come again.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 06:17 PM
But you did just that.. And i"m guessing.. no kids???
I wasn't, up until that point. Now quit guessing stupid. Once again, the answer is clearly posted in this thread.

AirtimeLavey
12-02-2007, 06:17 PM
You reacted the right way.
How stressful is the current ordeal for you? How stressful is it for your family?
Now how stressful would it be if you resorted to violence with this neighbor? Your kids seeing you hauled off to jail, your wife having to bail you out of jail. Lost time from your business, lost focus from your business.
How about all the time you lose from your life overall going to court for criminal and civil reasons...
In the end it's easier and less expensive to suck it up and get on with your life.
Or hire Shockwavebob to take him down, he'll do it for $25.
I have a horrible temper and it's landed me in trouble more times then I care to admit. Had I been an adult and acted like an adult I'd have saved a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of stress.
You have everything to lose and he has nothing to lose. Don't risk it.
Sheesh. Nice to see a sensible post amongst the mob. Wet Dream's on this one pretty good, too. Most of the rest of the posts are rediculous. Nice role models there. :rolleyes:
Why the fock do you care what this idiot says, again - I missed that part? You live your life by what your neighbors think? What you live in OC? (EDIT: Oh yeah, I just saw, you do live in OC. Nevermind. ) :devil:
It's one thing if he said it to your daughter, but if he only said it to you - what are you just so sensitive that whenever any idiot says something stupid, you're gonna kick his arse? This sounds like jr. high shiat to me. What, you just don't have an ability to say something witty back?
I would be wondering why people think this about my daughter, then I'd be sure to let everyone know how f-d up this guy is for talking about a kid like that. But to go kick his arse or do some other stupid shiat that could get you in trouble is lame and weak minded (like most of us learned in jr. high). You gotta look at the big picture.
If it goes beyond that, then I'd be calling l.e. and letting him explain his actions to them. Otherwise, get a grip, you can't go off over stupid shiat. Actually, sounds like you have a grip and acted appropriately. Except for a good firm verbal come-back. The more you trip about his stupidity, the more he wins. It's not worth your trouble at this point.
BTW, I'd kill with my bare hands for my daughter, but not over just someone's idiotic comments. :rolleyes:

FOXMAN
12-02-2007, 06:18 PM
I'm not even acknowledging you. I've been busy enough with other dialogue to have to pick up on yours and try to make something of it. Do I have kids? Why don't you take a few moments and read though the whole f'ing thread. Then, you may try to engage me, which at that point, all of your questions should be answered and you may even understand what we're talking about and where I'm coming from. Until then, that all I have for you at this time.
Quit pissing in my pool:D The wife said i have to get our son jack to bed.

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:18 PM
But you did just that.. And i"m guessing.. no kids???
He has kids. Told us so a few posts above yours.
Just seems to rather sit and ask who said what, using what words, when, instead of acting on it. I guess. I don't follow his thinking very well.
I hate it when simple things get complicated unneccesarily.
I had a brother in law that would grill his kids on details when they got in trouble. To the point of like "how many steps on the nieghbors yard were you when you threw the bag of shit at him?"
It seems clear and simple enough. Dude is a freak and pervert. I don't give benifit of the doubt over this kind of shit. Getting in trouble would not even be an issue to me.
Tommy

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 06:22 PM
Seems like yes or no would have been quicker. :D
Too easy. ;)

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 06:23 PM
Quit pissing in my pool:D The wife said i have to get our son jack to bed.
That was funny. :D I have 2 kids.

Jyruiz
12-02-2007, 06:29 PM
If a neighbor came over and told me that about one of my daughters, I would tell him to leave and to never talk to me or any memeber of my family again, and if I ever see him around any of my family members I will kick his ass.
Or you can lie and call the cops and tell them that you saw him staring at your daughter thru her window on your property line.:D

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:29 PM
Sheesh. Nice to see a sensible post amongst the mob. Wet Dream's on this one pretty good, too. Most of the rest of the posts are rediculous. Nice role models there. :rolleyes:
Why the fock do you care what this idiot says, again - I missed that part? You live your life by what your neighbors think? What you live in OC? :devil:
It's one thing if he said it to your daughter, but if he only said it to you - what are you just so sensitive that whenever any idiot says something stupid, you're gonna kick his arse? This sounds like jr. high shiat to me. What, you just don't have an ability to say something witty back?
I would be wondering why people think this about my daughter, then I'd be sure to let everyone know how f-d up this guy is for talking about a kid like that. But to go kick his arse or do some other stupid shiat that could get you in trouble is lame and weak minded (like most of us learned in jr. high). You gotta look at the big picture.
If it goes beyond that, then I'd be calling l.e. and letting him explain his actions to them. Otherwise, get a grip, you can't go off over stupid shiat. Actually, sounds like you have a grip and acted appropriately. Except for a good firm verbal come-back. The more you trip about his stupidity, the more he wins. It's not worth your trouble at this point.
BTW, I'd kill with my bare hands for my daughter, but not over just someone's idiotic comments. :rolleyes:
Your daughter will be the first one pregnant on the block.
Standing next to his wife who has already hit a child of yours.
That doesn't sting you? I can not think of anything off hand more offensive.
Sorry, but I would swing.
I do not understand why anyone would not do the same.
I think you know I did not direct that statement at anybody's daughter. Just putting in perspective of 21's position.
On that note I am off of here, this has the potential to pass the God thread.
Tommy
PS- All due respect to everybodys' thoughts.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 06:39 PM
IMO, you have to have honor, regardless of the potential outcome. One of the things I'd like to teach my kids is to have honor and integrity and stand up for what you believe in. Sometimes those things have consequences. It's all relative. Is there anything someone could say that's worth going to jail over? Is there a war worth fighting that is worth dying for? That's my take. It doesn't make anybody wrong or right, just different points of view.
Congrats, you got my 6000th post. ;)
I couldn't agree more, except for the fact that 21 is painting this guy the way he wants us to see him. Which of course makes us jump to conclusions and we all start flying off the handle, and some of these comments are anything BUT honorable in the actions they wish to take. Not a good example to any kid without getting to te bottom of it first and airing out all the details.
On another note, as a society we all see a 50 year old guy talking to or about a 13 year old girls as creepy and sick. But there was never anything wrong with being a 13 year old male and rubbing one out thinking about your best friends mom. :D

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:43 PM
Congrats, you got my 6000th post. ;)
I couldn't agree more, except for the fact that 21 is painting this guy the way he wants us to see him. Which of course makes us jump to conclusions and we all start flying off the handle, and some of these comments are anything BUT honorable in the actions they wish to take. Not a good example to any kid without getting to te bottom of it first and airing out all the details.
On another note, as a society we all see a 50 year old guy talking to or about a 13 year old girls as creepy and sick. But there was never anything wrong with being a 13 year old male and rubbing one out thinking about your best friends mom. :D
Are you calling him a liar? I have to take him at his word, since I wasn't there.
Tommy
PS- I know, I know- NOW I am gone!:D

AirtimeLavey
12-02-2007, 06:45 PM
Your daughter will be the first one pregnant on the block.
Standing next to his wife who has already hit a child of yours.
That doesn't sting you? I can not think of anything off hand more offensive.
Sorry, but I would swing.
I do not understand why anyone would not do the same.
I think you know I did not direct that statement at anybody's daughter. Just putting in perspective of 21's position.
On that note I am off of here, this has the potential to pass the God thread.
Tommy
PS- All due respect to everybodys' thoughts.
I understand your passion, but think that your reaction would get you and your family more issues than the comment or this guy deserves. I would laugh in his face and call him a f-ing idiot. Now, if he chose to swing, because of my comments, then it's on. If there's no truth to the comment, then why get wrapped up in it? I got way more important things in life going on then to go to jail for hitting a moron.
As for him hitting my child, that's different. Esp. if I'm there. If I'm there, he's going down. If I hear about it after the fact, one of my l.e. buddies will get the call. Gotta use your head or you're just shooting yourself in the foot for what you think will be a momentary satisfaction. Use your head, first. That's what I teach my kids.
As for your reference to the God thread, here's a good example. Let's see, what would Jesus do? Hmmm..... If I really wanted to drag this on and instigate, I guess we could look back at the mob here and see who were the ones spouting holier than thou in the previous god thread. Naw. Gotta go watch the Lakers and see which team shows up tonight.

Wet Dream
12-02-2007, 06:46 PM
Are you calling him a liar? I have to take him at his word, since I wasn't there.
Tommy
PS- I know, I know- NOW I am gone!:D
No, I'm saying that I can't jump to stupid reactions due to one persons recollection of an event. I believe him to an extent, I wasn't there either and I can't take it as 100% true.
Now get the hell out of here. ;)

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:49 PM
No, I'm saying that I can't jump to stupid reactions due to one persons recollection of an event. I believe him to an extent, I wasn't there either and I can't take it as 100% true.
Now get the hell out of here. ;)
OK, see you in the steeler thread. :eek: :D :eek:

thatguy
12-02-2007, 06:51 PM
I understand your passion, but think that your reaction would get you and your family more issues than the comment or this guy deserves. I would laugh in his face and call him a f-ing idiot. Now, if he chose to swing, because of my comments, then it's on. If there's no truth to the comment, then why get wrapped up in it? I got way more important things in life going on then to go to jail for hitting a moron.
As for him hitting my child, that's different. Esp. if I'm there. If I'm there, he's going down. If I hear about it after the fact, one of my l.e. buddies will get the call. Gotta use your head or you're just shooting yourself in the foot for what you think will be a momentary satisfaction. Use your head, first. That's what I teach my kids.
As for your reference to the God thread, here's a good example. Let's see, what would Jesus do? Hmmm..... If I really wanted to drag this on and instigate, I guess we could look back at the mob here and see who were the ones spouting holier than thou in the previous god thread. Naw. Gotta go watch the Lakers and see which team shows up tonight.
B&B would have sent him straight to hell!! :D
Tommy

AirtimeLavey
12-02-2007, 06:54 PM
B&B would have sent him straight to hell!! :D
Tommy
No doubt....:D

vee-driven
12-02-2007, 06:55 PM
All i gotta say, is there is a reason they feel that way about you daughter, the way she dresses, talks, the boys she....., the things the other kids in the neighborhhod tell their parents. We had a bet the mexican girl across the street would be a mom by 16 ding ding ding we were right.

tripledigit
12-02-2007, 07:07 PM
You should have worn a mask on halloween and went over there trick or treating and punched him out. Everybody is somebody else on halloween, the cops would be on a wild goose chase. Maybe next year!

Smokin Cigarettes
12-02-2007, 07:13 PM
My neighbor walks by a few nights ago with his wife and says, well the neighbors took a poll and your daughter will be the first pregnant one on the block. ( She's only 13 ! ) I'm completely dumbfounded and assume he's talking out his ass.
Last night my neighbors across the street come over and he says the same thing about my kid. They have no idea how to react, but they let us know what he said to em.
Naturally, I can't kick his ass without him suing me, so, what step would you take next without worrying about him crying to the cops?
The guy has no kids and blows up balloons at kids parties. Kinda freaky, but he's got a wife who sees all this.
Am I concerned about nothing?
Dude, all it would take is a hard bitch slap. He would have a welt that looked like my hand for 3 days. You have to stand for something. I cant imagine worrying about being sued in a situation like that. I hate to say it, but spineless comes to mind.

Smokin Cigarettes
12-02-2007, 07:16 PM
Shit, I'll do it for $25. :D
Let me know where to send the check...That is f ucked up to say the least. Looks like you could make good money just off of the folks in this thread.

Havasu1986
12-02-2007, 07:19 PM
All i gotta say, is there is a reason they feel that way about you daughter, the way she dresses, talks, the boys she....., the things the other kids in the neighborhhod tell their parents. We had a bet the mexican girl across the street would be a mom by 16 ding ding ding we were right.
I didn't want to chime in on this thread, but we had a girl like that live next door to me at my last house. We actually moved because of that family. :(

Smokin Cigarettes
12-02-2007, 07:20 PM
My neighbor walks by a few nights ago with his wife and says, well the neighbors took a poll and your daughter will be the first pregnant one on the block. ( She's only 13 ! ) I'm completely dumbfounded and assume he's talking out his ass.
Last night my neighbors across the street come over and he says the same thing about my kid. They have no idea how to react, but they let us know what he said to em.
Naturally, I can't kick his ass without him suing me, so, what step would you take next without worrying about him crying to the cops?
The guy has no kids and blows up balloons at kids parties. Kinda freaky, but he's got a wife who sees all this.
Am I concerned about nothing?
Your 13yr old is going to be grown up someday and needs to know that you had her back.

Smokin Cigarettes
12-02-2007, 07:21 PM
I didn't want to chime in on this thread, but we had a girl like that live next door to me at my last house. We actually moved because of that family. :(
Did you say something like that to her father?

Havasu1986
12-02-2007, 07:24 PM
Did you say something like that to her father?
The father came around every other weekend. :( And the mother was not nice. :(

pancho
12-02-2007, 07:45 PM
for that guy to say something like that in front of you was a test,you lost that one.its okay because now he is brazin and over confident and too much time has passed for a i just realized what you said reaction,the ball is now in youre court and its time to start baiting him but the key is subtlety and witnesses,the neighbors will testify to what was said in the past and it will appear that he was trying to get something started which is what led to this confrontation Mr. police officer,i hope he`ll be okay!

C-2
12-02-2007, 07:54 PM
This is kind of out there, but if you feel the need to kick his azz:
Your homeowners policy.
Many umbrella policies defend you against a myriad of weird stuff - and assault/battery could be one of them (along with libel and slander). My State Farm policy has such provisions.
So, up your insurance to a $1 or $2MIL umbrella, make sure you have a low deductible, and six months from now, go over and kick his arse if it makes you feel better.
Obviously, make sure your policy covers it first.:D

Classic Daycruiser
12-02-2007, 08:10 PM
Go down and visit the cops at the police station. Ask them what you should know about your neighbor. Explain they get drunk alot, and tend to get very violent.
Then, next time they are drunk, call the cops and tell them your neighbors are fighting, and it sounds like they are kicking each others ass. :D :D :D

Rexone
12-02-2007, 08:28 PM
You reacted the right way.
How stressful is the current ordeal for you? How stressful is it for your family?
Now how stressful would it be if you resorted to violence with this neighbor? Your kids seeing you hauled off to jail, your wife having to bail you out of jail. Lost time from your business, lost focus from your business.
How about all the time you lose from your life overall going to court for criminal and civil reasons...
In the end it's easier and less expensive to suck it up and get on with your life.
Or hire Shockwavebob to take him down, he'll do it for $25.
I have a horrible temper and it's landed me in trouble more times then I care to admit. Had I been an adult and acted like an adult I'd have saved a lot of time, a lot of money, and a lot of stress.
You have everything to lose and he has nothing to lose. Don't risk it.
Good advice here and from others. Call the PD and report it, both what he said and the fact his wife assaulted your daughter. At least then it is on record. Most PD's don't take kindly to jackass perverts that say shit and prey on or assault young girls, when drunk or otherwise. My guess is they're pissed off because you got in his wife's face after she hit your daughter (that one would have drawn immediate fire and PD report from me at the time but that time is now gone). Taking physical action now or even based on what he said (just words) will / would just land you in jail and accomplish nothing (he wins). Get the PD on his ass and next time anything happens report it immediately and get a restraining order served. If it's something physical against your daughter, take him down on the spot but be careful (see below) (you have grounds if your daughter is in danger, especially if it's been reported prior there's been problems with these individuals). If it's words and you smack him you just end up going to jail and not much is accomplished. He will just continue until the PD get grounds to take him down.
Also be careful in any physical confrontation when two people are involved. He and his wife are involved you indicated. She's a drunk, he likely is too. You beating on one could result in you being shot by the other. You have no idea if they're packin iron. Stranger things have happened. Be careful and don't be stupid and become a victim yourself.
Also time to take a look at your daughter, her habits, her friends, etc to see if there's the off chance of any validity to whats this guy said. As they say, the parents are often the last to know when somethings amiss. Kids hide shit real well many times. Not suggesting this is the case but it's wise to always be on the lookout for troublesome habits or trends with your kids. It's a parent's duty to check up on them when they least expect it. Peer pressure is enormous and kids are easily influenced in many cases by "what's cool".

howard25bullet
12-02-2007, 08:30 PM
Someone in an earlier post mentioned checking the Megan's Law website for registered sex offenders. Here it is for CA:
http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/search_main.aspx?searchtype=zipcode&lang=ENGLISH
Everyone SHOULD check this out to see what exposures your kids have in the neighborhood or in areas they frequent. In Huntington Beach there are 96 registered sex offenders for instance.
The reason I bring this up is that a "friend" that I had as a coach on my Pony baseball team turned up on the list. Needless to say he is an "ex-friend" but I actually invited him to be a coach and didn't find out about his issues until a few years later. I was absolutely sick about it!
So, check the guy out Daytona just to make sure and it wouldn't hurt to make a friendly visit to the police station to discuss with the desk sergeant. Lot's of these guys don't register so just because he's not on the list doesn't mean he isn't a perv. If nothing else the police will have it on record that the guy is is up to no good.
Best Wishes!

Sleeper CP
12-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Also time to take a look at your daughter, her habits, her friends, etc to see if there's the off chance of any validity to whats this guy said. As they say, the parents are often the last to know when something's amiss. Kids hide shit real well many times. Not suggesting this is the case but it's wise to always be on the lookout for troublesome habits or trends with your kids. It's a parent's duty to check up on them when they least expect it. Peer pressure is enormous and kids are easily influenced in many cases by "what's cool".
I haven't been home for a few hours and haven't read every post, but this is not bad advice. Or is the guy just a POS trying to start something. If he is he is but it doesn't hurt to take a look around.
Oh, the fact that he said something like this once, he'll probably do it again so you now have a heads up. The fact that he does sound like a 50 yr. old perv you may have to have more than words with him about your 13 yr. old
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover:D

mike37
12-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Someone in an earlier post mentioned checking the Megan's Law website for registered sex offenders. Here it is for CA:
http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/search_main.aspx?searchtype=zipcode&lang=ENGLISH
Everyone SHOULD check this out to see what exposures your kids have in the neighborhood or in areas they frequent. In Huntington Beach there are 96 registered sex offenders for instance.
The reason I bring this up is that a "friend" that I had as a coach on my Pony baseball team turned up on the list. Needless to say he is an "ex-friend" but I actually invited him to be a coach and didn't find out about his issues until a few years later. I was absolutely sick about it!
So, check the guy out Daytona just to make sure and it wouldn't hurt to make a friendly visit to the police station to discuss with the desk sergeant. Lot's of these guys don't register so just because he's not on the list doesn't mean he isn't a perv. If nothing else the police will have it on record that the guy is is up to no good.
Best Wishes!
good advise

beernut
12-02-2007, 09:01 PM
Well if you sock him, and you go to jail, now whos watching the family?,maybe thats his plan, and of course the lawsuit,thats part 2, he may have counted on you to react and you didnt, anyone can beat someones a$$, you chose not to, maybe you should go on a hunting trip together?... :idea:

mbrown2
12-02-2007, 10:07 PM
for that guy to say something like that in front of you was a test,you lost that one.its okay because now he is brazin and over confident and too much time has passed for a i just realized what you said reaction,the ball is now in youre court and its time to start baiting him but the key is subtlety and witnesses,the neighbors will testify to what was said in the past and it will appear that he was trying to get something started which is what led to this confrontation Mr. police officer,i hope he`ll be okay!
The best advice I have heard so far....you should have confronted him when he said it...otherwise let it go until it comes up again and then confront him.

Waist Deep
12-03-2007, 07:06 AM
I appreciate everyones advice here, and yes, I'm pissed at myself for not taking this seriously when it happened, but got even more pissed when I heard it again.
Acting after the fact is what is eating me up, therefore, I will follow some peeps advice here such as reporting to LE and will be on guard for the next comment because I'm sure there will be one.
With regards to my kids attitude etc. She is rarely even outside as she is always occupied with theatre stuff,etc., therefore I have no clue, nor do any other neighbors have reason to think this. I understand the concern, especially with kids, but we'll be the last parents to let her go outside looking loosely dressed.

snake321
12-03-2007, 07:16 AM
I had a neighbor by the neck 2 weeks ago. It was very loud and the only reason he didn't get black eyed was his 2 boys were right there. If the wife doesn't call the cops on you you're probably all right. The guy doesn't want to explain how he got bitch slapped and humiliated....

airchairmaster
12-03-2007, 07:29 AM
Dude, I would of gone straight over there and got in his face. or U should of had your wife go over there. She's about the same height as him. She could of gone Poncho via on him. I over heard him say one time something about the kid, that pissed me off. Not knowing him that well, I didn't say anything. I know your daughter and I think she is a sweetie. She was brought up in a Christian School and she know's what is right and wrong. If you need me to take care of your light work. let me know.. You could start a rumor about a Balloon blowin child molester.

Smokin Cigarettes
12-03-2007, 07:37 AM
I appreciate everyones advice here, and yes, I'm pissed at myself for not taking this seriously when it happened, but got even more pissed when I heard it again.
Acting after the fact is what is eating me up, therefore, I will follow some peeps advice here such as reporting to LE and will be on guard for the next comment because I'm sure there will be one.
With regards to my kids attitude etc. She is rarely even outside as she is always occupied with theatre stuff,etc., therefore I have no clue, nor do any other neighbors have reason to think this. I understand the concern, especially with kids, but we'll be the last parents to let her go outside looking loosely dressed.
Great avatar BTW!

UltraStealth
12-03-2007, 07:51 AM
First off, if the wife punched my kid, she would be in jail or still laying on the ground. :mad: Now the husband is talking sh!t about her. Report him to the police stating he is making lude comments and advances towards your daughter. If it doesn't stop, go over and beat him down making sure there is no witnesses. Then when the cops come, tell them you confronted the guy to stop making comments about your daughter and he swang at you. You were defending yourself and beat his ass. Make sure there are no witnesses of at least the first punch thrown. ;)

C-2
12-03-2007, 08:06 AM
I had a neighbor by the neck 2 weeks ago. It was very loud and the only reason he didn't get black eyed was his 2 boys were right there. If the wife doesn't call the cops on you you're probably all right. The guy doesn't want to explain how he got bitch slapped and humiliated....
Funny, thats kinda what I thought too.
There is nothing worse or more degrading to a man, than to be bitch slapped by another man.
It usually sends the message home without causing injury, and if the guy doesn't react, it makes it even worse (for him).:eek:

snake321
12-03-2007, 08:16 AM
Better yet, say that he did something nasty towards the daughter. The balloon tying and previous comments and his wife's previous actions will all fall in your favor.
Be sure to post pictures.....

Waist Deep
12-03-2007, 08:59 AM
With all being considered, I've been reeling in on why I didnt sock this guy in the first place.
His statements that "the neighbors took a poll", did have me ask him who they were, if anyone. I got no answer. At that point, I did not know that it was him who was starting the rumor. I was just sickened by it.
Saturday night, the couple from across the street immediately stated that it was him that started it, which is why I was so pissed about it yesterday.
Now today, to hear that he has stated lewd s*** about her before without me being around, gives me more cause for concern that he is not joking and that he most likely has sexual thoughts in his mind about her.
I will address the LE about the incident and confront him tonight with a simple " Stay the F away from my family and let him know of the consequences if I hear another word out of his mouth about my daughter.
Thanks to all who have advised me on this. It's now time 2 take action to correct the damage.

Dave C
12-03-2007, 09:44 AM
that shiat is just plain creepy.... He does sound like a closet pedophile.
I was gonna call B.S. on the so-called poll. IMHO he is either baiting you into a confrontation or is really a creepy pervert.
If he is just baiting you then the ass-whooping is the way to go.
But it sounds like he is a pervert which potentially could be a serious issue not just for you but others. Consult the P.D. ASAP.

airchairmaster
12-03-2007, 09:46 AM
If you need someone standing behind you. Let me know.. Being that the balloon perv is only 3 ft tall. I don't think you'll need to many people behind you, But that would scare the shit out of him. Let me know.

airchairmaster
12-03-2007, 09:51 AM
hey, let's go over there when I get off work

snake321
12-03-2007, 09:52 AM
Post his name, we'll research the hell out of him for priors....

Waist Deep
12-03-2007, 10:02 AM
I'd like to post his name, but I've seen it done here before and the results can be harsh.
Airchairmaster, I think you know I'm reading this guy right from your past run ins with him.
That Avatar says Laughlin all over it.
I do have a couple of HB members that have offered to research him and I'm pulling the info together.

Cole Trickle
12-03-2007, 10:09 AM
How in the world did the conversation start? Did he start yelling this from across the street or did he walk up to you?
I don't know if I would have swung at the guy if this was the first issue. Fighting with neighbors can create huge issues.... One thing I can guarantee is that If I was cleaning my car I would have sprayed him in the face with the hose and told him he needs to stear clear of my family.
The guy and his wife sound like looser weirdos......I would have my kids stay clear

Waist Deep
12-03-2007, 10:19 AM
The conversation started as they walked in front of my house and I was working in the yard. " The neighbors took a poll and we all say your daughter will be the first one pregnant on the block"
I do know for a fact now that there was no poll taken as he went and said the same thing about my kid to the neighbors across the street.
How do I know about the poll? Nobody on the block has anything to do with the guy except for the ones across the street, who are disgusted at what he said as well since they have two young girls of their own.

Riverdog1
12-03-2007, 10:19 AM
Simple, get a restraining order and next time he walks by your house call the cops. F*ck with him enough he'll feel stupid.
Or
just kick his as*
Sometimes just making someone feel stupid in front of everyone is more satisfying than giving out a good old fashion as* whoopin.:devil:

Cole Trickle
12-03-2007, 10:30 AM
The conversation started as they walked in front of my house and I was working in the yard. " The neighbors took a poll and we all say your daughter will be the first one pregnant on the block"
I do know for a fact now that there was no poll taken as he went and said the same thing about my kid to the neighbors across the street.
How do I know about the poll? Nobody on the block has anything to do with the guy except for the ones across the street, who are disgusted at what he said as well since they have two young girls of their own.
You should have told him that you and your wife just took a poll and he will be the first one in the neighborhood to get a beat down if he so much as looks at your house when he drives by:mad: :D ;)

topless
12-03-2007, 10:37 AM
I don't know the whole story but from what I've read, it sounds like these people are trouble makers. Not sure why they would say that about your daughter but I'd bet it has something to do with the time drunk wife hit your kid. You didn't call the cops then so why should they worry now? They are trying to justify their bad behaviour at your expense so instead of leaving well enough alone, they are trying to give you and your family a bad reputation in the neighborhood by starting rumors.
Stroll by his house one night and tell him that all the neighbors took a poll and he needs to go get checked for STDs and do it right away.:D

77Woodbridge
12-03-2007, 10:38 AM
Whatever you do, don't take a swing at this guy unless you're ready to defend yourself legally.
I don't know how all of this people are kicking ass and not dealing with court cases.
I had a POS that was dating my neighbor try to break into my house. There was an open window with a screen in it. The window was about 6 feet off the ground and he couldn't climb in, but did break the screen.
My children were home alone, 3:30pm. They called me on my cell, I called 911 while driving home. The cops arrested the guy, but he was released the next day before noon - he never stole anything so trespassing was the charge. I saw him that evening at my neighbor's and went straight over there and kicked his ass.
When the fight started I became afraid of this guy getting a knife or a gun. At that point I figured that I couldn't stop until he stopped moving. Definetely not a proud moment.
He ended up in an ambulance and I ended up spending the next 6 months in court defending myself. I felt I had no choice because the law would not consider my children's safety or the rights as a property owner.
If someything like that were to happen again, I would wait until he was alone and make him disappear.

Magic34
12-03-2007, 10:58 AM
If a neighbor came over and told me that about one of my daughters, I would tell him to leave and to never talk to me or any memeber of my family again, and if I ever see him around any of my family members I will kick his ass.
Or you can lie and call the cops and tell them that you saw him staring at your daughter thru her window on your property line.:D
Would it really be a lie? Cops know if a guy is creepy enough to do something.
Would I kick his ass? Probably not unless something he did at that exact moment set me off beyond belief. If I had time to think about it, like you do now, the outcome will be a well thought out and calculated one. One that would sting much longer than a punch to the eye.
I would gather evidence about him in terms of being a child predator. He has NO kids and hangs around kids? Red Flag #1. I would try to catch pictures of him around other kids possibly touching them. Not like you are only taking pictures of him, but maybe a neighborhood event that he will be at, photo everyone as you are taking fun pics, but focus on him and anything he might fock up on.
I would document what he said to you and have your friend do the same on paper. Build a trail of things to when all presented at once, looks like he is a sick fock.
Doing these little things over the course of the next few months may not put him in jail, but the questioning at the poilice station would be sorth it. And if you are really good, try to look into his past as much as you can. Hire a PI if need be. Find something and get him in cuffs and in the back of a car in your neighborhood and smile as he is driven away. His name and face will be ruined in your neighborhood even if found of no wrongdoing. Dont lie, keep the facts straight so you can get in trouble with a false reposrt.

Waist Deep
12-03-2007, 11:11 AM
Magic, Thank You, rest assured, theres dirt somewhere on him. I know his wifes been on probation @ the grocery for years now for harassment of fellow employees.
Don't understand being in the 50s and acting like a child.

snake321
12-03-2007, 12:02 PM
You guys watch waaaay too much tv.
He talked shit to you and got away with it.
He's gonna do it again.
You said nothing,you left the door open for more.
Be outside everytime he is and wait.
Don't let him get away with it again......

RiverDave
12-03-2007, 12:15 PM
"man that's interesting, becuase we all just took a vote and it came back unanimous that your the biggest ass on the block."
would've been my immedieate reaction.. Or if it had been a little more abbrasive tone
"come on inside and we'll talk about it" :) (Away from prying eyes)
Then when the cops showed up I'd say he attacked me and I have absolutely no idea why?
Just my 02.
RD

C-2
12-03-2007, 12:27 PM
Everybody keeps talking about cops - have you tried calling them?
I doubt they will do anything, or get involved.
Personally, I think it would sound silly: "My neighbor called my daughter a *^%#^. Can you open an investigation?
I could be wrong, but I doubt it. They might make a feel good report about to please you, but that's about it.
Sleep on it for a week or two, then revisit it. As others have said, the time to react has passed (and that might be a good thing). :)

ADDICTED
12-03-2007, 01:53 PM
http://www.trixiepixgraphics.com/fake_gift_boxes/fake_gift_boxes.html
Send your neighbor some of these.:D
They also have many more just not sure where to find them.

Tremor Therapy
12-03-2007, 02:18 PM
Don't be afraid of jail. You won't lose your assets for smacking a pervert. In fact, if you just bitch slap him, it would actually be better than a full blown a*s whipping. If you really don't want to wallop the guy, just call the cops and tell them He is saying lewd remarks about your 13 year old daughter.
They don't like that.
Tommy
See the highlighted part of Tommy's quote above. You have neighbors as a witness, and I would call the cops and report his ass. This is all in hindsight as you well know, but I would have hauled off and made him eat snowballs outta his ass after a comment like that. I might have gone to jail, but I would have most certainly made it so he would never contemplate that course of action again! :mad:

THOR
12-03-2007, 02:20 PM
You need to report this immediately to the authorities for two reasons. First, he is a douchebag and needs this to happen and second, if some ever does happen, then this is on record that he is a potential child molestor.

fatboy95
12-03-2007, 02:26 PM
Have your daughter confront him. Then have her call the police and tell them he exposed himself to her and made lewd comments. He'll get a real taste of gossip after that..

topless
12-03-2007, 02:31 PM
Have your daughter confront him. Then have her call the police and tell them he exposed himself to her and made lewd comments. He'll get a real taste of gossip after that..
Nice, lets tell our child what rude stupid neighbor has said (this should make her feel good) and then teach her to lie to police. :rolleyes:

ULTRA26 # 1
12-03-2007, 02:42 PM
With all being considered, I've been reeling in on why I didnt sock this guy in the first place.
His statements that "the neighbors took a poll", did have me ask him who they were, if anyone. I got no answer. At that point, I did not know that it was him who was starting the rumor. I was just sickened by it.
Saturday night, the couple from across the street immediately stated that it was him that started it, which is why I was so pissed about it yesterday.
Now today, to hear that he has stated lewd s*** about her before without me being around, gives me more cause for concern that he is not joking and that he most likely has sexual thoughts in his mind about her.
I will address the LE about the incident and confront him tonight with a simple " Stay the F away from my family and let him know of the consequences if I hear another word out of his mouth about my daughter.
Thanks to all who have advised me on this. It's now time 2 take action to correct the damage.
Sounds like a good idea.

HM
12-03-2007, 02:47 PM
I appreciate everyones advice here, and yes, I'm pissed at myself for not taking this seriously when it happened, but got even more pissed when I heard it again.
Acting after the fact is what is eating me up, therefore, I will follow some peeps advice here such as reporting to LE and will be on guard for the next comment because I'm sure there will be one.
With regards to my kids attitude etc. She is rarely even outside as she is always occupied with theatre stuff,etc., therefore I have no clue, nor do any other neighbors have reason to think this. I understand the concern, especially with kids, but we'll be the last parents to let her go outside looking loosely dressed.
3 legged angry ninja midget for hire. Will travel. :D

thatguy
12-03-2007, 03:14 PM
3 legged angry ninja midget for hire. Will travel. :D
Hold on Holy,
Call HBO first, Midget street fighting is a PPV bonanza!
( I read that the pervert is 3' tall)
Tommy

donzi5150
12-03-2007, 04:34 PM
Tape record and file a civil suit for slander........or better yet get on print shop, find a picture of him, down load a flyer on your local sex offender registry, crop his picture in, change the name and details and do a night job on your neighborhood posting them........If you do this, I live in Venezuala and my name is Hugo......:D :D :D

topless
12-03-2007, 05:02 PM
I want to know what kind of neighborhood you live in. You said the drunk wife hit your kid and you yelled at her so I did a search for the post and found out that you
1. have a neighbor who has pretty much a zoo and you can smell the dog shit.
2. A renter neighbor who was a drug dealer (this one moved and now you have a normal person there)
3. Sanford and Son neighbors
4. another neighbor who's dogs constantly bark
I think that maybe it's time you move.:idea:

thatguy
12-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Exactly. I've hit a bunch of people and I've never been convicted of anything or sued. :D
Maybe it didn't hurt enough? :eek:
:D :D Just kidding SWB.
The moment is past, but I feel it will come around again from the sounds of it.
When people know they deserve it, they rarely look to LEO for help.
I have a couple nieghbors who are retired. Very nice couple. They walk their horses down the street twice daily,(as alot of my nieghbors do). They are the model for Roy Rogers and Dale Evans. Cowboy hats, pressed shirts, string tie, etc.
But the Husband always stops when he sees me in the yard and comments how the previous owners took much better care of my property. (its 4 acres and a full time job). It is annoying, but not malicious. I respect this man a good deal and his property is immaculate and set up for breaking and training horses.
This is the kind of talk that I hear and just swallow it and smile, he means no harm and thinks we are just in over our heads, which we are.
But what this asshole said to 21 is just so far over the line as to be criminal.
Totally malicious and inflammatory. I can find no way to let that go.
Tommy

thatguy
12-03-2007, 05:45 PM
I will say, I've rarely had occasion to sock somebody that looked like they could afford a lawyer. :D
Well put!! :D

beernut
12-03-2007, 07:28 PM
I say forget about it and be thankful you dont live in a hood with real criminals :guns,drug dealings, drive-by's,ect, youngsters these days hear all kinds of rude crap everyday, even in a good school. he cought you off guard once, but now you know to keep an eye on him, and if he says any other sheit you will be ready, but dont let it stress you out, ..if he talks smack again,dont say a word ,just beat his a$$ into the ground and go inside and call the cops ,they usually listen to the one that calls them anyway :D :D

pancho
12-03-2007, 08:29 PM
there is an old saying dont mistake my kindness for weakness,the time has passed for the macho badass routine,you know whats in youre mind,have some patience this clown will run his mouth which will establish a pattern of malicious intent,play youre cards right and youre a hero in the neighborhood,the only reason anyone talks to this guy is because they are happy it`s not them,i seriously doubt he has any real friends,most people are lambs

came along during the sunk boat thread
12-03-2007, 08:41 PM
he's got a wife who sees all this.
beat him at his own game, find someone to knock her up

Formula Dude
12-03-2007, 10:15 PM
I will say, I've rarely had occasion to sock somebody that looked like they could afford a lawyer. :D
In 21's case, if he were to assault the a$$hole - the guy would not spend a dime on a lawyer. The state would come after 21. The min. cost for a good def. attorney would be $40k if the case does not go to court. This sorry a$$ neighbor needs to be set up in the worst way!

acatitude
12-03-2007, 11:55 PM
just invite him boating with you and well you probably can figure out the best course to take from there:D