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dirty old man
12-12-2007, 08:10 AM
Border Patrolmen Compean and Ramos who shot and wounded a drug runner on the border after he testified against them. WTF ?

OutCole'd
12-12-2007, 08:15 AM
Maybe they didn't have friends in high enough places to bend the President's ear?

AZJD
12-12-2007, 08:20 AM
Border Patrolmen Compean and Ramos who shot and wounded a drug runner on the border after he testified against them. WTF ?
Maybe there is more to the story that we don't know about.

Kilrtoy
12-12-2007, 08:22 AM
Maybe there is more to the story that we don't know about.
In a nut shell
A drug runner, an illegal ALIEN, a human smugler, he shot at the B.P.A. first....
So they returned fire on a felon

Outnumbered
12-12-2007, 08:33 AM
Like I have said before. Bush is not a conservative. He is a disgrace to the Republican party. The more time that passes the more disgusted I get. He has no desire to close the border. He made an example of Ramos and Campeon. Basically castrated the Border Patrol and ruined two lives in the process. Very sad:(

Outnumbered
12-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Maybe there is more to the story that we don't know about.
Ya, like the drug runner who plea bargained his way out of a conviction by testifying against the Border Patrol was just caught again in November smuggling 750# of pot into the USA? The guy is a scum bag, fired on the BP over his shoulder, catches a BP round in his ass as he is firing, prosecutor says BP shot him the back....side, now BP agents are in prison and drug runner is still crossing the border with mass quantities of pot...WTF?

Big Warlock
12-12-2007, 08:42 AM
It is sad. While I do not agree with Bush bashing, this is somthing he should have done. There have been no compelling reasons not to pardon these guys! It is ridiculous!! :confused:

Keith E. Sayre
12-12-2007, 08:43 AM
get on grassfire.com if you want to know the real deal on the border patrol
agents. it will make you sick.

westair
12-12-2007, 08:48 AM
You can sign a petition or donate .... www.pardontheagents.com

Magic34
12-12-2007, 08:51 AM
get on grassfire.com if you want to know the real deal on the border patrol
agents. it will make you sick.
Can you give a cliff notes version?

RitcheyRch
12-12-2007, 09:02 AM
Thought heard that our government gave the POS illegal a free pass to come back and forth across the border and recently was caught bringing more drugs with him and he is in jail now.

Mandelon
12-12-2007, 09:06 AM
A disappointment to say the least.

Outnumbered
12-12-2007, 09:06 AM
It is sad. While I do not agree with Bush bashing, this is somthing he should have done. There have been no compelling reasons not to pardon these guys! It is ridiculous!! :confused:
I voted for Bush and defended him for several years. I have finally given up. He has tried to be too middle-of-the-road. He has pissed off both sides of the aisle and seems to be in his own world.

IMPATIENT 1
12-12-2007, 09:07 AM
Like I have said before. Bush is not a conservative. He is a disgrace to the Republican party. The more time that passes the more disgusted I get. He has no desire to close the border. He made an example of Ramos and Campeon. Basically castrated the Border Patrol and ruined two lives in the process. Very sad:(
I AGREE 110000% :D bush needs illegals to work the oilfields and garden at his ranch:rolleyes: :D

Outnumbered
12-12-2007, 09:13 AM
Thought heard that our government gave the POS illegal a free pass to come back and forth across the border and recently was caught bringing more drugs with him and he is in jail now.
Yes, that is correct...
Ya, like the drug runner who plea bargained his way out of a conviction by testifying against the Border Patrol was just caught again in November smuggling 750# of pot into the USA? The guy is a scum bag, fired on the BP over his shoulder, catches a BP round in his ass as he is firing, prosecutor says BP shot him the back....side, now BP agents are in prison and drug runner is still crossing the border with mass quantities of pot...WTF?

Boozer
12-12-2007, 09:25 AM
Can you give a cliff notes version?
So here's the run down...
Ramos and Compeon took fire from a guy sneaking over the border and smuggling narcotics. They returned fire and hit the guy in the ass.
They failed to report the shooting to their superiors and even cleaned up their casings. They didn't want to deal with all the paperwork.
The drug runner struck a deal with US attorneys, in exchange for his testimony he would get amnesty, free medical care, and entitlement to sue the United States (Which he is doing for something like 5 million dollars).
The same drug runner was recently caught bringing over 750 pounds of pot. He is also suspected of bringing over additional pot at other times between the shooting and his recent arrest.
Ramos and Compeon did f*ck up. Thye failed to report a shooting, which was definite grounds for termination. However, it was absolutely NOT grounds for imprisonment. Also, one of the two was beaten severely shortly after being imprisoned .
Grassroots has been fighting this thing and raising money for the cause before they were even sent away. Unfortunately their efforts have gotten them nowhere at this point although they have uncovered a lot of sh*t the US attorneys hid from the public and the jury during the trial.

havaduner
12-12-2007, 09:26 AM
get on grassfire.com if you want to know the real deal on the border patrol
agents. it will make you sick.
So will reading what has haapened to the funding for the fence...:mad:

Baja Big Dog
12-12-2007, 10:26 AM
The only crime the Border Patrol guys committed was not being good enough shots to kill the scum bags!!!:mad:

Racey
12-12-2007, 10:27 AM
So here's the run down...
Ramos and Compeon took fire from a guy sneaking over the border and smuggling narcotics. They returned fire and hit the guy in the ass.
They failed to report the shooting to their superiors and even cleaned up their casings. They didn't want to deal with all the paperwork.
The drug runner struck a deal with US attorneys, in exchange for his testimony he would get amnesty, free medical care, and entitlement to sue the United States (Which he is doing for something like 5 million dollars).
The same drug runner was recently caught bringing over 750 pounds of pot. He is also suspected of bringing over additional pot at other times between the shooting and his recent arrest.
Ramos and Compeon did f*ck up. Thye failed to report a shooting, which was definite grounds for termination. However, it was absolutely NOT grounds for imprisonment. Also, one of the two was beaten severely shortly after being imprisoned .
Grassroots has been fighting this thing and raising money for the cause before they were even sent away. Unfortunately their efforts have gotten them nowhere at this point although they have uncovered a lot of sh*t the US attorneys hid from the public and the jury during the trial.
Bullshit they are in the slammer while this scumbag is free, smuggling, and suing us, but termination is justified, when you hold a law enforcement job it is your duty to follow the rules, you are enforcing them, you need to set the example, paperwork or no paperwork that is what you are getting paid to do, so do your job, the job us tax payers are footing the bill for.
It may seem minute to try and cover up such a small incident, but it makes you wonder what other corners they have cut in the past.

westair
12-12-2007, 10:28 AM
So here's the run down...
Ramos and Compeon took fire from a guy sneaking over the border and smuggling narcotics. They returned fire and hit the guy in the ass.
They failed to report the shooting to their superiors and even cleaned up their casings. They didn't want to deal with all the paperwork.
The drug runner struck a deal with US attorneys, in exchange for his testimony he would get amnesty, free medical care, and entitlement to sue the United States (Which he is doing for something like 5 million dollars).
The same drug runner was recently caught bringing over 750 pounds of pot. He is also suspected of bringing over additional pot at other times between the shooting and his recent arrest.
Ramos and Compeon did f*ck up. Thye failed to report a shooting, which was definite grounds for termination. However, it was absolutely NOT grounds for imprisonment. Also, one of the two was beaten severely shortly after being imprisoned .
Grassroots has been fighting this thing and raising money for the cause before they were even sent away. Unfortunately their efforts have gotten them nowhere at this point although they have uncovered a lot of sh*t the US attorneys hid from the public and the jury during the trial.
Ramos and Compeon fired on him but did not know they had hit him, since they watched him run and jump into a waiting van. Compeon picked up his casings Ramos did not. They reported this to their supervisor but did not file a report since they thought nobody was hurt. What they did wrong was not file a report that shots were fired, that was it, enough for a suspension but not termination from their jobs.

Outnumbered
12-12-2007, 10:35 AM
Ramos and Compeon fired on him but did not know they had hit him, since they watched him run and jump into a waiting van. Compeon picked up his casings Ramos did not. They reported this to their supervisor but did not file a report since they thought nobody was hurt. What they did wrong was not file a report that shots were fired, that was it, enough for a suspension but not termination from their jobs.
Exactly!
Boozer fell for the slanted prosecutor's version of the story.

2Driver
12-12-2007, 11:49 AM
The only crime the Border Patrol guys committed was not being good enough shots to kill the scum bags!!!:mad:
Beat me to it.

Sleeper CP
12-12-2007, 11:54 AM
Maybe there is more to the story that we don't know about.
Not really, unless you mean Johnny Sutton U.S. Prosecutor is a POS.:mad:
Sleeper CP

Some Kind Of Monster
12-12-2007, 01:09 PM
I will never, ever understand how ILLEGALS have ANY rights in the USA. The only right they have should be to get the boot back where they came from until they choose to come over properly. The key word here is ILLEGAL. How can someone that is ILLEGAL instantly be granted amnesty, and become a millionaire when it takes the LEGAl immigrants years to become citizens and achieve the American dream like the rest of us. Immigration and the illegals situation is going to be my main deciding factor in voting for the next president.