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Ian
09-30-2003, 01:38 PM
I recently called in sick to work and now my managers are requesting a doctor's note. Does anyone know the legalities of this? Are they allowed to do that?
Thanks Ian (just shaking his head) :rolleyes:

Havasu_Dreamin
09-30-2003, 02:09 PM
Perfectly legal. Shows a lack of trust on their part, but they are certainly within their rights as your employer to request a doctor's note.

superdave013
09-30-2003, 02:12 PM
If you only took one day off work tell them you didn't go to the doctor. I mean, come on, who goes to the doc for the flu or something like that!
Now 3 days off and I could see it.
Ian, bro you have to becareful. Taking a sick day to surf don't look good when ya go back with a sunburn! Don't ask me who I know.

hot_diggity_dog
09-30-2003, 02:22 PM
Perfectly legal. Shows a lack of trust on their part, but they are certainly within their rights as your employer to request a doctor's note.
Is there a Doctor on these boards??? :confused:
It looks like Ian will need a note from one of us.
Dear Ian's Employer,
I am Mr. Ian's physician, Doctor RD , On behalf of my patient Mr. Ian, I would like to inform you that he was sick and unable to attend work. eek!
He had the following symptoms when I initially examined him. wink
1. Boating withdrawals, common sickness from people realizing they have to go to work the next day. eek!
2. He had a minor case of alcohol poisoning. eek!
3. He showed signs of blurred vision, a definite sign of to many pasties and G-strings. eek!
4. My final medical opinion was that he had a fever. :rolleyes:
Now unless you want me to go into details it was basically a Don't want to go to work fever, boating fever, Boobs & Beer fever, you make the call.
Signed DR. River Dave MD (Beer & Boob Specialist)
Hot (hope your better Ian) Diggity Dog :cool:

eliminatedsprinter
09-30-2003, 02:23 PM
Do they do this all the time to everybody?

mickeyfinn
09-30-2003, 02:25 PM
Just tell your boss your were sick with a case of optimitis. When he asks what that is inform him that it is when your optical nerves get wrapped around your bowels and you get a shitty outlook on life.

Mandelon
09-30-2003, 02:33 PM
I hope you just told them you did not go to the doctor...how can they argue?

Dr. Eagle
09-30-2003, 02:46 PM
Mandelon:
I hope you just told them you did not go to the doctor...how can they argue? I think you have a point. But it is not a good sign that they are asking for a doctors note. Sounds like they feel that there is a performance issue or they are trying to build a case. I'd walk the straight and narrow for a while...

ssmike
09-30-2003, 02:59 PM
Ian:
I recently called in sick to work and now my managers are requesting a doctor's note. Does anyone know the legalities of this? Are they allowed to do that?
Thanks Ian (just shaking his head) :rolleyes: Ian,
Did you say you were going to the Dr., or just that you could not make it in to work???
PM me

Mandelon
09-30-2003, 03:08 PM
Yeah, don't get caught in a lie. Word your answers carefully to avoid lying to the boss.
Were you not really sick? Not even a "mental health" day?? :)

Ian
09-30-2003, 03:45 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. To answer some questions, I work at a sushi bar and they don't ask everyone for doctor's notes, but they do ask some of us(the managers are friend with some of the employees, but not all of us). The crappy thing is when I came back to work I was still congested so they could tell I was trully sick. I told them that I didn't go to the doctor, but they still wanted me to go get a note :confused: . Trust me guys I am a great worker, and on average recieve the highest tip percentage in the restraunt, so it isn't a performance issue. Oh well, I already got a note so I'll give it to them, but it would have been a lot more fun to tell them to take their note and shove it.

DansBlown73Nordic
09-30-2003, 03:57 PM
Next time your sick just go to work and throw up yuk . I don't think anyone eating Suchi will be able to tell the difference. eek!
And of course they will be sure you are really sick. wink

hot_diggity_dog
09-30-2003, 04:36 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. To answer some questions, I work at a sushi bar and they don't ask everyone for doctor's notes, but they do ask some of us(the managers are friend with some of the employees, but not all of us). The crappy thing is when I came back to work I was still congested so they could tell I was trully sick. I told them that I didn't go to the doctor, but they still wanted me to go get a note . Trust me guys I am a great worker, and on average recieve the highest tip percentage in the restraunt, so it isn't a performance issue. Oh well, I already got a note so I'll give it to them, but it would have been a lot more fun to tell them to take their note and shove it.
NO NO Ian this is something totally different that they are looking for from you. :D
They want a medical clearance, not proof that you went to the doctor.
Due to the litigious society we live in, if a customer noticed you had the sniffles and later got sick, or something worse, they would have the opportunity for a lawsuit. :rolleyes:
They need proof that you will not contaminate their food products. :rolleyes:
Ian you are a good employee :p keep up the work. wink
They also call me (Sashimi) AKA Raw Mo Bettah
HDD :cool:

Dr. Eagle
09-30-2003, 04:49 PM
hot_diggity_dog:
Thanks for the advice guys. To answer some questions, I work at a sushi bar and they don't ask everyone for doctor's notes, but they do ask some of us(the managers are friend with some of the employees, but not all of us). The crappy thing is when I came back to work I was still congested so they could tell I was trully sick. I told them that I didn't go to the doctor, but they still wanted me to go get a note . Trust me guys I am a great worker, and on average recieve the highest tip percentage in the restraunt, so it isn't a performance issue. Oh well, I already got a note so I'll give it to them, but it would have been a lot more fun to tell them to take their note and shove it.
NO NO Ian this is something totally different that they are looking for from you. :D
They want a medical clearance, not proof that you went to the doctor.
Due to the litigious society we live in, if a customer noticed you had the sniffles and later got sick, or something worse, they would have the opportunity for a lawsuit. :rolleyes:
They need proof that you will not contaminate their food products. :rolleyes:
Ian you are a good employee :p keep up the work. wink
They also call me (Sashimi) AKA Raw Mo Bettah
HDD :cool: Good point! Most companies have a policy regarding a physicians note following an illness. The ones I have worked for really addressed lengthy illnesses where you might take over a week.
In the food industry I can see the point of making sure you don't have eboli or typhoid or something. It would certainly be nice to know what your employers "standard" policy is on this. You might just ask.
When I said it sounded like they were building a case or something, I was thinking of a more office type setting and in that case it would be unusual for them to ask for a note following just one day off. I guess I should have asked the question as to what kind of job you perform. So I appologize I did not mean to infer you are anything but a good employee. When you hear things you tend to view them from your own experiences. :D :D
Good luck!
[ September 30, 2003, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Eagle ]

THATJEFFGUY
09-30-2003, 05:33 PM
They can't just arbitrarily ask for a doctors note just because you are lying...OOPS I mean cuz they don't trust you.(Sorry Bro..I believe you!) There has to be an actual "company policy" or "employee handbook", which states the way sick days and absences are handled. I have been through this in the past when I handled employee matters for a large corporation here in CA...we fired an employee for being out (3) days with no Dr. note, BUT the judge gave the employee his job back because there was no company policy in place explaining sick day absences. That was a few years ago, and I doubt if it has since been changed. Good luck !!
OR...You can always make a Dr. appt..and they always make you wait & leave you in the room alone with the little RX tablet anyway (check the drawers..grab some gloves while you're in there!)..then make your own little excuse, complete with the Docs scribbled signature !

BALLSDEEP
09-30-2003, 05:40 PM
SO what sushi bar do you work at?

Ziggy
09-30-2003, 05:41 PM
Dr. Eagle:
hot_diggity_dog:
Thanks for the advice guys. To answer some questions, I work at a sushi bar and they don't ask everyone for doctor's notes, but they do ask some of us(the managers are friend with some of the employees, but not all of us). The crappy thing is when I came back to work I was still congested so they could tell I was trully sick. I told them that I didn't go to the doctor, but they still wanted me to go get a note . Trust me guys I am a great worker, and on average recieve the highest tip percentage in the restraunt, so it isn't a performance issue. Oh well, I already got a note so I'll give it to them, but it would have been a lot more fun to tell them to take their note and shove it.
NO NO Ian this is something totally different that they are looking for from you.
They want a medical clearance, not proof that you went to the doctor.
Due to the litigious society we live in, if a customer noticed you had the sniffles and later got sick, or something worse, they would have the opportunity for a lawsuit. :rolleyes:
They need proof that you will not contaminate their food products.
Ian you are a good employee :p keep up the work.
They also call me (Sashimi) AKA Raw Mo Bettah
HDD :cool: Good point! Most companies have a policy regarding a physicians note following an illness. The ones I have worked for really addressed lengthy illnesses where you might take over a week.
In the food industry I can see the point of making sure you don't have eboli or typhoid or something. It would certainly be nice to know what your employers "standard" policy is on this. You might just ask.
When I said it sounded like they were building a case or something, I was thinking of a more office type setting and in that case it would be unusual for them to ask for a note following just one day off. I guess I should have asked the question as to what kind of job you perform. So I appologize I did not mean to infer you are anything but a good employee. When you hear things you tend to view them from your own experiences. :D :D
Good luck! Especially since they are dealing with RAW foods to begin with... yuk yuk

TCHB
09-30-2003, 07:17 PM
They can ask for a note but you can tell them you did not go to the doctor. If they want a release go see a doctor and then come back. They sound like assholes.

Kilrtoy
09-30-2003, 08:09 PM
Glad I dont have that job, I'll tell my boss to pound sand and drive on. I have to be placed on illness certification, before they can request that bullshit. In order to get on illness cert. I have to call in sick a whole lot, I.E. 20 plus times a year......

Dr. Eagle
09-30-2003, 08:15 PM
Ziggy:
Dr. Eagle:
hot_diggity_dog:
Thanks for the advice guys. To answer some questions, I work at a sushi bar and they don't ask everyone for doctor's notes, but they do ask some of us(the managers are friend with some of the employees, but not all of us). The crappy thing is when I came back to work I was still congested so they could tell I was trully sick. I told them that I didn't go to the doctor, but they still wanted me to go get a note . Trust me guys I am a great worker, and on average recieve the highest tip percentage in the restraunt, so it isn't a performance issue. Oh well, I already got a note so I'll give it to them, but it would have been a lot more fun to tell them to take their note and shove it.
NO NO Ian this is something totally different that they are looking for from you.
They want a medical clearance, not proof that you went to the doctor.
Due to the litigious society we live in, if a customer noticed you had the sniffles and later got sick, or something worse, they would have the opportunity for a lawsuit. :rolleyes:
They need proof that you will not contaminate their food products.
Ian you are a good employee :p keep up the work.
They also call me (Sashimi) AKA Raw Mo Bettah
HDD :cool: Good point! Most companies have a policy regarding a physicians note following an illness. The ones I have worked for really addressed lengthy illnesses where you might take over a week.
In the food industry I can see the point of making sure you don't have eboli or typhoid or something. It would certainly be nice to know what your employers "standard" policy is on this. You might just ask.
When I said it sounded like they were building a case or something, I was thinking of a more office type setting and in that case it would be unusual for them to ask for a note following just one day off. I guess I should have asked the question as to what kind of job you perform. So I appologize I did not mean to infer you are anything but a good employee. When you hear things you tend to view them from your own experiences. :D :D
Good luck! Especially since they are dealing with RAW foods to begin with... yuk yuk You mean bait.

Rod-64
09-30-2003, 08:39 PM
I am self-employed. and I called in sick....My new spa was delivered and installed today.....I bought a 12-pack....am drinking it....and hopping in it.....and posting drunk!!!! :D :D :D

Kim Hanson
09-30-2003, 08:43 PM
Sick-Day, you get to take those off? I have never taken one of those, shit! I don't even get to take time off, I'am talking one freaking day!
How bad! 22 yrs. at this job, love the job..but 1997 till now, 49 total days off ...those where holidays!
You do get weekend's off,once and awhile! Still pulling in 140 every 2 weeks, sick days...bbbwwWhhaaaaaAaaa suck it up and get on with it, job that is!.......( . )( . ).........

phebus
09-30-2003, 08:44 PM
Before you go to bed, fire yourself. That way you can have the satisfaction of getting yourself a new job in the morning. Hell, while your at it, give yourself a raise.

Infomaniac
10-01-2003, 04:36 AM
Policy from a major airline.
Sick time is to protect your income from serious health conditions.
The company spends millions of dollars each year to provide employees with very good health insurance programs. The company expects you to keep your health in good condition.
Minor indispositions are not cause to use sick leave benefit and may be cause to suspect sick leave abuse.
:rolleyes:

Seadog
10-01-2003, 05:22 AM
First, this is apparently a case of the company making sure that the employee was well enough to return to a job that could have public health implications. They were within their rights and were being reasonable. Whether or not they could have explained their perspective more clearly, is a totally different animal.
Sick leave policy, even when spelled out, can vary from situation to situation. We had a guy that was working shift. Every time his shift would fall on Thursday afternoons, he would call in sick. A little checking up showed he was working an area sale barn. He got fired. If he had explained the situation and taken vacation time, it would have been easy to schedule a replacement operator instead of the last minute scramble and inconvenience for the outgoing operator.

sleekster
10-01-2003, 06:36 AM
sounds like a question you should ask your union steward, if no you need one. no one person can change a system designed to extract the most out of a person while giving the very least it can.

jerry billet
10-01-2003, 09:00 AM
Our policy says you need a doctors notice, with Manager discretion. If you suspect, they can ask. I rarely require from the employees. I even tell people to go home who are obviously ill as I don't want them infecting the rest of the office. In a resturant business, any cold, flu or general down in the dumps would prompt me to tell the person to go home. We're in the trucking business. Can't afford to have a sick employee getting hurt or doing damage. Crashing a big rig can cost me my business.
Hey, boss I'm sick
You don't sound sick
I'm at home doing my sister.
OH, YOUR SICK
Jerry