Who would you vote for in CA Recall?

[BigBoyToys]

After Last nights California Recall debate that was seen Worldwide, I think that people are starting to get their minds made up with less than 2 weeks remaining before the election. Forget the biased media polls.... Let's do a non-scientific ***boat Poll
[ September 25, 2003, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: BigBoyToys ]

[BigBoyToys]

I chose Tom McClintock because he is a straight shooter and tells ya what he will do and does it whether you like it or not. Ya gotta love political honesty in a World of Political Corruption! HOWEVER, I will be watching the polls right down to the wire and if it is clear to me that Tom won't win, Arnold gets my vote. I sure hope 1 or the other drops out soon. I'd hate to split the vote and have Gray II (Cruz Bustamente) take over for the next 3 years. This state has serious issues that need to be fixed! Not just "business as usual"

[Essex502]

I'd vote for Tom or Arnold whoever is left after the other drops out. Anybody Republican over the Democrits (sp) and kooky independents and Greens. One of the two needs to do the right thing and "take the a hit for the party" and drop out or we'll have Grey (sp) or Bust-my-wallet in there.

[Boozer]

If I were in Cali I'd vote for Bustamante he has some good ideas and I think he will a LOT of good for the state. I LOVE his proposal to give the state back to Mexico where it rightfully belongs.

[Mandelon]

Boozer, with that reply, I hope they send you to Mexico!! :D

[Dave C]

I dunno alot of what Peter Camejo said hits "close to home." I feel kinda guilty when he speaks because I know he's talking about me.
Am I being paranoid? Should I feel guilty about my 1%'um?
J/K... I'm voting for a Republican.
I like McClintock but I will vote for either Arnold or Tom depending who is in the lead.
We don't need a Ross Perot spoiler so we end up with another "Clinton," I mean, Bust-your-taxes.
[ September 25, 2003, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: Dave C ]

[25 Eagle]

If I could vote in that state it would be for DAVE

[Dave C]

Sure Boozer.
I say if we give Kalifornia back to Mexico, They must PAY FOR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WE DID.
Lets see when we stole it, it was worthless, just a bunch of small farms, kinda like Mexico is today.
Today, Kali is the 6th largest economy in the world. Even after Davis gutted it, the future cash flows are still significant.
So lets use a round figure of $15 trillion that Mexico owes us for all our improvements.
And NO we won't take a damn IOU.
Should we also deport Boozer?
[ September 25, 2003, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Dave C ]

[bigq]

I am with BBT. I wish Tom could win. :rolleyes: I just don't think he will, he is to hardline and that scars people, too bad.

[NastyOne]

I like Tom But am scared that if the votes get split between him and Arnold that Cruz might win. Then we would be ****ed again.

[rvrtoy]

I have been a supported of Arnold however, after the debate last night I will have to throw my support to McClintock. He has a solid plan to get Cali out of its current funk. Arnold was to broad in his answeres and went back on his statement to not mud sling or mix it up with personal inuendo with the other candidiates. McClintock has great ideas, values, and has a great plan of attack and he kept the debate on a factual level.
Drop out Arnold. Throw your support to the candidate to the man with a real plan. Just my .02.

[Mandelon]

If either Tom or Arnie drops out then the remaining man gets my vote. If neither drop out, I will vote against the recall and keep that asswipe Davis, cuz he is still better than Bustamante. frown

[eliminatedsprinter]

McClintock's problem has always been that he doesn't seem to realize that there is more to statesmanship than just being right all the time.
He doesn't seem to work and play well with others and he has been mosly unable to lead others and get things done. I have always liked him, I just wish he was adaptable enough to be an effective leader.
P.S. I'm voting for Arnold. If he wins we will still have a Gov who supports about 90% of McClintocks ideas and by showing a little flexibility on social issues he may be able to actually get more of these ideas into practice than McClintock would.
[ September 25, 2003, 09:06 AM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[Havasu_Dreamin]

The most important thing is to get Davis out and keep BustYOURTAXESmante out of office.
Keep in mind, whoever does get elected it will be a very tough job for them to get this state out of the mess Davis, and the legislature, has put it in.
Once, just one f**king time I'd like to see a person run for office and win basd on a platform of doing what makes sense not what special interest that paid you the most money! Damn, I must be dreaming at th ekeyoard again.
And another thing, anyone that votes FOR the recall and FOR BustYOURTAXESmante is just an idiot! He is Davis all over again.

[058]

I'd love to see Tom win but he is too conservative for most the liberal wackos in this state. As much as I want to vote for Tom I will vote for any Republican that has the best chance of kicking out the present administration. That means Davis and Bustyourballsamonte. Cameo makes Attila the Hun look like a conservative. Huffington is just an idiot and she had no business in that debate to begin with but I was entertained by her stupid diatribe with her attacks on Bush, what does that have to do with the debate and Calif. anyway?

[CA Stu]

rvrtoy:
I have been a supported of Arnold however, after the debate last night I will have to throw my support to McClintock. He has a solid plan to get Cali out of its current funk. Arnold was to broad in his answeres and went back on his statement to not mud sling or mix it up with personal inuendo with the other candidiates. McClintock has great ideas, values, and has a great plan of attack and he kept the debate on a factual level.
Drop out Arnold. Throw your support to the candidate to the man with a real plan. Just my .02. Unfortunately, McClintock's rigid, fully orchestrated plan is bound to cause conflict and either slow down or totally negate the possibility of any progress being made in the California Legislature.
When a leader has a rigid plan, it causes resistance, resentment, and argument because noone wants to be told exactly how to conform to someone else's agenda / predetermined plan.
Arnold will make a better governor because all he has are ideas.
I reckon if the legislature (or anyone for that matter) is given a desired end result then left to create their own road map to achieve the goal, the chance of success is significantly higher than if there is a rigid agenda that is forced upon them.
Idea men make better leaders.
People that are allowed to exercise their own ingenuity are happier and more productive.
We need a leader that inspires people and lets them do their thing.
Just my overtaxed semi-socialist CA 2 cents
CA Stu

[Ducatista]

eliminatedsprinter:
McClintock's problem has always been that he doesn't seem to realize that there is more to statesmanship than just being right all the time.
He doesn't seem to work and play well with others and he has been mosly unable to lead others and get things done. I have always liked him, I just wish he was adaptable enough to be an effective leader.
P.S. I'm voting for Arnold. If he wins we will still have a Gov who supports about 90% of McClintocks ideas and by showing a little flexibility on social issues he may be able to actually get more of these ideas into practice than McClintock would. I agree 100%....well said.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Ca Stu
Well put. That is why I'm voting for Arnold. I think he can work with McClintok and the other republicans as well as perhaps the few (if any) moderate democrats we may have left in our state.
Ducatista
Thanks for the encouragement.
[ September 25, 2003, 01:31 PM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[FRENCHIE]

it/s 100% arnold :D

[CA Stu]

Thanks!
I reckon someone needs to tell Mr McClintock to not put his ego ahead of what's good for California.
Join Arnold, Tom!!
CA Stu

[Caribbean Jet]

think that Arnold needs to get off of his Power trip and let the McClintock get the job done. With both of these guys running we are going to get Bustamante and I think that he will be worse than Davis. I like Arnie but only in most of his movies. Every time he gets a little frustrated and he gets off one of his scripted answers he has to go back to one of his bad movie lines. Now don't get me wrong I think that he is better than just about everybody else but that is not hard. How about if Arnold becomes Governor we let McClintock become the next Terminator.

[Caribbean Jet]

I think that Arnold needs to get off of his Power trip and let the McClintock get the job done. With both of these guys running we are going to get Bustamante and I think that he will be worse than Davis. I like Arnie but only in most of his movies. Every time he gets a little frustrated and he gets off one of his scripted answers he has to go back to one of his bad movie lines. Now don't get me wrong I think that he is better than just about everybody else but that is not hard. How about if Arnold becomes Governor we let McClintock become the next Terminator.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Arnold is getting roughly twice the votes in the polls. If he pulls out, not only will McClintok not get his votes, the recall might lose. Because Arnolds star status has increased intrest in the recall dramatically and is undoubtably attracting people to the polls (to vote for him) that would otherwise not vote at all.
McClintok has to pull out fast. He is already costing Arnold votes and helping Busti. Remember absentee ballots tend to run conservative and they are being sent in in record numbers. Arnold needs these votes and McClintok has probably cost him plenty already.
[ September 25, 2003, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[BigBoyToys]

Well, it looks like Arnold is roughly 2 to 1 in front of the 2nd place, McClintock.
As I stated earlier, I'd love to see McClintock get into the office of Governor of CA. But, as reflected in so many opinions here in this forum, he is very conservative and would have a hard time winning the votes needed for successful results on Oct. 7. Arnold will win it....and let me go out on a limb here and tell you that Arnold will win it NO MATTER if Tom stays in or not. And the reason why is because 95% of the people that will be going to the polls on Oct 7 that planned on voting for McClintock will KNOW that the chance of splitting the vote will put Bustamente in and we CAN'T HAVE THAT. SO, I look to see the McClintock supporters voting for Arnold on Oct 7 wheter or not McClintock withdraws or not.
I was watching a nationwide news channel last night after the debate and couldn't believe what an idiot Jesse Ventura is. All I can say tothat is........Look out Big Mouth Jesse Ventura (Governor of Minnesota and former fake wrestler), the TERMINATOR is coming to California to clean house!

[sandblasted]

You people dissapoint me. I thought true hot boaters would vote for the one with the best tits! So vote for Mary Carey. It's not every day you get a porn star for governor and look on the bright side..
when you say "our governor blows" you'll be telling the truth! :D
Actually, i think most of you hit it on the head..McClintock would be my choice for governor but he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning. Arnold comes across as more moderate and thats what wins the governors job in California. Hopefully when Arnie gets elected he works closely with McClintok to clean up this state!

[Jimmy Jam Jam Jim]

Dang.......I'm not voting for Arnold or Tom. I'm voting for Tom Arnold!!

[sam pioske]

If Mc isn't going to get in then ARROOnald.
God forbid Busti. When he went to Fresno State he belonged to a group that thier motto was Latinos everything the rest NOTHING. Check it out Ariz. Nev. Id. Or. Here i come

[LUVNLIFE]

Larry Flynt of course. Owner of fine magazines such as Hustler and ***boat.

[Jrocket]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/232scan.jpg

[Napanutt]

I agree,STU,Mandy ,BBT...I was thinking McClintock myself but he is just a little too hard core,right wing for these times,almost agree that a no on recall could possibably be the best vote just to keep "Cruz control" Bustamante out...he scares me...

[Kindsvater Flat]

I'm voting for the porn star. She won't hide the stains on the dress.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

CA Stu:
I reckon someone needs to tell Mr McClintock to not put his ego ahead of what's good for California.And when was the last time you saw a politician do that!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[rivercrazy]

Mandelon:
If either Tom or Arnie drops out then the remaining man gets my vote. If neither drop out, I will vote against the recall and keep that asswipe Davis, cuz he is still better than Bustamante. :( I have to agree. Despite my hate for Davis, BustaMetcha would be much much worse. Hard to believe but true.
The Republican party better wake up in the next few days and pressure one of those guys to drop out. If not, California just might turn communist afterall under BoostYourTaxes or Gumby
[ September 25, 2003, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: rivercrazy ]

[Trailer Park Casanova]

A vote for anyone other than Arnold is a vote for Klu Klux Kruze

[rivercrazy]

Trailer Park Casanova:
A vote for anyone other than Arnold is a vote for Klu Klux Kruze LMFAO! Great one!

[Caribbean Jet]

If Arnold wasn't a movie star would you vote for him? I agree with most of you the Republucan Party better wake up because they are going to split the votes. I would rather have Arnie than one of Davis' members in there.

[eliminatedsprinter]

sam pioske:
If Mc isn't going to get in then ARROOnald.
God forbid Busti. When he went to Fresno State he belonged to a group that thier motto was Latinos everything the rest NOTHING. Check it out Ariz. Nev. Id. Or. Here i come [/b]
A slight correction here. METCHA's motto does not refer to Latinos. It refers to "La Raza" (the race) this term in this usage is specific to chicanos. They don't care one bit about other latinos, ie cubans, puerto ricans, or south americans, etc..Other latinos are outsiders to them as well.
[ September 26, 2003, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[Just Tool'n]

I am voting for Tom McClintock, but I am afraid that he will play the spoiler role also for the rep party.
I like his no nonsense type of attitude.
He knows what needs to be done & is not affraid of voicing his opinion of how to get it done.
I wish all of the liberal's would see that this is the only way to fix this state.

[eliminatedsprinter]

I have voted for MClintok every time he has run for office in the past. But this time I am not. He has no chance at winning and he is so stubborn and has such a poor sinse of political tactics I don't think he would govern as well as Arnold would anyway. When he ran for controller he lost a very close election, TO A NOBODY. Now it looks like he is going to help get Busti elected. Any political neophite shoud know that while 2 on 1 my be a good thing in a fight it is a formula for losing in an election. But not McClintok. He may be a smart policy wonk, but he's got to be the dumbest political tactician ever.

[Dr. Eagle]

I want the Dems out. They have screwed up this state beyond repair in my opinion. I was born and raised here, most people in this state cannot say that.
Between Arnold and McClintock the last man standing gets my vote. And if both are still in, the front runner in the polls gets my vote. The last thing we need is to dump Davis for something worse like the socialist Bustamante. If he gets in, time to move to AZ or NV.

[v-drive]

Arnold gets my vote. I'm certain that tom has more experiance and at the same time I think all of those guys in Sac are to blame. They need a swift kick in the ass as my dad used to say. if tom doesn't step aside I will vote against the re-call...........v-drive
[ September 26, 2003, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: v-drive ]

[Dr. Eagle]

Tom needs to bail out and now.

[eliminatedsprinter]

v-drive:
Arnold gets my vote. I'm certain that tom has more experiance and at the same time I think all of those guys in Sac are to blame. They need a swift kick in the ass as my dad used to say. if tom doesn't step aside I will vote against the re-call...........v-drive This sort of talk scares me. First and foremost the recall must get Davis out. If the recall fails Davis will cont to swing left to reward his base and he will wind up being at least as bad as Busti perhaps even worse. Plus surviving the recall might even revive his presidential hopes eek! eek! eek! . No he must be booted out, if for no other reason than to send a message that we don't want this sh and to at least caues a delay while we change administrations.

[Dr. Eagle]

That is why I said I am going to vote for a republican, the one with the best chance of wining over Bustamente. Davis is dangerous, besides being incompetent. He must go. I will vote to replace him no matter what!
I agree that he would take the defeat of the recall as a blank check to pander to his base.

[v-drive]

You should pay more attention to Darrel Issa (spelling)and what he has to say. davis is bad but Busti is a complete waste of gravity. It isn't about one person have you not noticed how they have all been working to make themselves look better....v-drive