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Rod-64
07-10-2003, 11:48 AM
Anyone use one? Do they work as good as the website claims? My current river anchor works on 75% of the time and I'm getting pissed off with it....it seems to never grab in Copper Canyon and that's one of the places you need it to hook up right the first time. :mad: I just wanted some input before I shell out $125.00 for it.
[ July 10, 2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Rod-64 ]

SCUBA STEVE
07-10-2003, 11:53 AM
Mine kicks ass. Not sure what size boat you have, but I would recommend the large anchor, that thing sets really good. I used to have to mess around with the small anchor a little bit. So now I use the large anchor for the bow, and the small anchor for the stearn. That locks me in really good. :D
[ July 10, 2003, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: SCUBA STEVE ]

Party Cat
07-10-2003, 11:54 AM
Here's some info.....
Box Anchor (http://forums.***boat.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=004436#000000)

Rod-64
07-10-2003, 11:55 AM
Thanks Scuba....Yeah.....I should have mentioned that....I havae an 18 1/2 foot Baja.

Party Cat
07-10-2003, 11:58 AM
SCUBA STEVE:
......I used to have to dick around with the small one a little bit. So now I use the big one.............That locks me in really good. :D Hey Steve.....yer givin us a little too much info there... :D :D

SCUBA STEVE
07-10-2003, 11:58 AM
You should be cool with the small box anchor then.
But if you really want to be set, spend the $30 more and buy the large one. It will last you for ever. And you wont have to buy shell out another $150 if you ever get a bigger boat. Just my .02

BUSTI
07-10-2003, 11:58 AM
Best anchor I have ever usedin over 35 years of boating! mt son has the big bos anchor for his vdrive cruiser and it works like a champ and I use the smaller one for my Sanger Superjet and its easy and awsome! get one as fast as you can and it will be the last anchor you will ever need.

SCUBA STEVE
07-10-2003, 12:02 PM
Party Cat:
SCUBA STEVE:
......I used to have to dick around with the small one a little bit. So now I use the big one.............That locks me in really good. :D Hey Steve.....yer givin us a little too much info there... :D :D I was wondering who was going to catch me on that. I'll have to go back and edit it. :D

SCUBA STEVE
07-10-2003, 12:04 PM
wtf??
[ July 10, 2003, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: SCUBA STEVE ]

Havasu Hangin'
07-10-2003, 12:08 PM
SCUBA STEVE:
You should be cool with the small box...Hmmmmm.....

SCUBA STEVE
07-10-2003, 12:13 PM
Havasu Hangin':
SCUBA STEVE:
You should be cool with the small box...Hmmmmm..... lol :D The small box is good for other things. :D :D

al cole'holic
07-10-2003, 12:15 PM
They would last forever, unless you got some rat tweaker kids living next to your house in Havi as my boy found out last weekend! :mad:

Havasu Luvr
07-10-2003, 12:28 PM
I can tell you that at Elsinore with the Rods (Pop & Chris) and Playtime (Ruben) the Rod's box anchor did NOT hold all day with a slight breeze. I was not to impress with it...
just my .02

Ultra5150
07-10-2003, 12:28 PM
Mine held tight the 4th of July weekend all over Havasu. I got tired of messing around with my anchor and bought my Box anchor after reading about it on the boards last summer.

summerlove
07-10-2003, 12:57 PM
I'm not a big fan of the box anchor - in fact, I may take them up on their offer and send it back. I've had it for over three years. I have found that in coves like Steamboat and the one by the dam with the rock in the middle (I think it's called California Cove)that it just drags due to the muddy bottom. It seems I'm always resetting the thing. I am going to most likely buy a danforth. I just hate the idea of an anchor taking up all that room. Just my $.02

RiverToysJas
07-10-2003, 01:08 PM
I have one and I think it's just OK.
At OP6 I had three boats on it in Copper Canyon and it held fine and I have the small one. So that's cool. BUT It seems to drag in soft bottoms with shallow water, where you don't have a lot of rope out. The boat will bounce with wakes and pull it up. The lack of chain is the reason. Does anyone run chain on theirs???
I also find it be a bit of pain in the ass to open up and handle.
I know these are fighting words on this board, but I'm just not overly impressed with the box anchor and everytime I'm handling it, I think how everyone raves about theirs and I wonder what I'm doing wrong!
Just my opinions...RTJas :D
[ July 10, 2003, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: RiverToysJas ]

hd&boatrider
07-10-2003, 01:09 PM
Another box anchor topic? Damn

hd&boatrider
07-10-2003, 01:10 PM
RiverToysJas:
I have one and I think it's just OK.
At OP6 I had three boats on it in Copper Canyon and it held fine and I have the small one. So that's cool. BUT It seems to drag in soft bottoms with shallow water, where you don't have a lot of rope out. The boat will bound with wakes and pull it up. The lack of chain is the reason. Does anyone run chain on theirs???
I also find it be a bit of pain in the ass to open up and handle.
I know these are fighting words on this board, but I'm just not overly impressed with the box anchor and everytime I'm handling it, I think how everyone raves about theirs and I wonder what I'm doing wrong!
Just my opinions...RTJas :D Aren't you right handed? Maybe you got the lef handed model by mistake...

Essex502
07-10-2003, 01:13 PM
With the box anchor as any other anchor you MUST have enough rope out to keep the "tangs" in the lake bottom. Can't drop it straight down. I find a good ration is somewhere between 3:1 to 5:1 works for me. Longer the better. Been blown 360° around the anchor on some windy days on Lake Mohave and it held just fine.
Small box anchor + 21' Essex

RiverToysJas
07-10-2003, 01:15 PM
hd&boatrider:
Aren't you right handed? Maybe you got the lef handed model by mistake... Actually I'm left handed, maybe that has something to do with it!!! wink

summerlove
07-10-2003, 01:17 PM
RiverToysJas:
hd&boatrider:
Aren't you right handed? Maybe you got the lef handed model by mistake... Actually I'm left handed, maybe that has something to do with it!!! wink Shit, I have the same problem as RTJ. Damn left hand can't do a damn thing right! Well almost...

mbrown2
07-10-2003, 01:17 PM
al cole'holic:
They would last forever, unless you got some rat tweaker kids living next to your house in Havi as my boy found out last weekend! :mad: :) :D just heard the rest of that story.

LaveyJet
07-10-2003, 01:19 PM
I’ve had a box anchor for 3 years now, It works good. I must admit a danforth works better on a muddy bottom, but you also have to deal with the chain. That’s one of the main reasons I like the box, no chain. If there’s a muddy bottom, the box will work fine if I let out more line.
SC

mbrown2
07-10-2003, 01:21 PM
Box Anchor has worked great for me...so much so when I tried to pull it in last Friday at the upper Sandbar, I needed Riverliver,my bro, and myself to tug the thing in....now that's a hold.

rvrkaosI
07-10-2003, 01:25 PM
I have had the box anchor for 4-5 years now. From havasu anywhere you could think of, to the upper sandbar across the way from Sundance on Parker, I have yet to come across a area the box anchor could not hold tuff. At upper sandbar, I had my 24 Cheetah, along with a 30 Spectre, and the boats didn't slide down river once. Once in copper canyon, I had 5 boats with just the box anchor, and with wind, we held strong.
By the large one though, that's the one I have, and its good for a long time. Once it was stuck on the bottom, almost couldn't pull it up, had to drag the anchor to release!
Great anchor!

Havasu_Dreamin
07-10-2003, 01:33 PM
As E502 said, it's all about the amopunt of rope you have out while using the Box Anchor. I've never had a problem in the 3 years I've had one.

OutCole'd
07-10-2003, 01:39 PM
I had a box anchor and loved it. Never a problem holding. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to open, but worth it. The problem it got stolen from in front of Blue water last weekend.
Note to self, Leave nothing out, thieving bastards. :mad:

OutCole'd
07-10-2003, 01:48 PM
No, but like a tard, I left it in the water to mark a beach spot, so I would not have to get out there at 6:00 in the morning. I have done that a dozen times before and never a problem. I know, I deserved it, Oh well, live & learn.
Anyone selling a used box anchor including a rope, & bouy? J/K :D

sandblasted
07-10-2003, 04:02 PM
OutCole'd:
No, but like a tard, I left it in the water to mark a beach spot, so I would not have to get out there at 6:00 in the morning. I have done that a dozen times before and never a problem. I know, I deserved it, Oh well, live & learn.
Anyone selling a used box anchor including a rope, & bouy? J/K :D NO, you didn't deserve it..Just goes to show that the rabble have invaded the river. Screw those thieving bastards!

Trailer Park Casanova
07-10-2003, 04:10 PM
I have two of them.
One for the campsite,, one for the sandbar.
Allyou need is the small one.
When pushing the locking bar up, both push your thumb aginst the nut, and pull on the bar at the same time. It'll be much easier to use.
I had a thread on this site two+ weeks ago and everyone loves them.
Don't leave it where it can get stolen. Use old painted chlorine bottle for a bouy,, tends to look like a cheap anchor is down below.

OutCole'd
07-10-2003, 04:44 PM
Trailer Park Casanova:
Don't leave it where it can get stolen. Use old painted chlorine bottle for a bouy,, tends to look like a cheap anchor is down below. Now you tell me. :D

novaguy
07-10-2003, 04:56 PM
I loved mine....until it got stolen cry I would recommend the slide anchor as well

RiverToysJas
07-10-2003, 07:45 PM
OutCole'd:
I had a box anchor and loved it. Never a problem holding. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to open, but worth it. The problem it got stolen from in front of Blue water last weekend.
Note to self, Leave nothing out, thieving bastards. :mad: You think the people at the Blue Water took it in because they didn't want people saving spaces??? Just a thought.
RTJas :D

RiverToysJas
07-10-2003, 07:49 PM
RiverDave:
RiverToysJas:
I have one and I think it's just OK.
I have the small one. So that's cool. BUT It seems to drag in soft bottoms with shallow bounce.
I also find it be a bit of pain in the ass to open up and handle it.
I know these are fighting words on this board. I'm just not overly impressed with the box and everytime I'm handling it, I think how everyone raves about theirs and I wonder what I'm doing wrong!
Just my opinions...RTJas :D Much like ya only quoted part of my post Jason.. I figured I'd only quote part of yours and save it for later. wink :D
RD :D :D :D LMAO!!! That's funny!!!
RTJas :D

DogHouse
07-10-2003, 07:55 PM
WTF, sounds like many have had anchors stolen, that sucks. My buddy Edgey1 had his box anchor "removed" from the beach at Avi a while back. I just can't believe that fellow river folks would do that, but then I guess I'm a bit naive and old fashioned.
To the point of the thread, I'm very satisfied with my box anchor. Sets every time, regardless of my state at the time. Gotta like that. :D

bordsmnj
07-10-2003, 07:59 PM
Essex502:
With the box anchor as any other anchor you MUST have enough rope out to keep the "tangs" in the lake bottom. Can't drop it straight down. I find a good ration is somewhere between 3:1 to 5:1 works for me. Longer the better. Been blown 360° around the anchor on some windy days on Lake Mohave and it held just fine.
Small box anchor + 21' Essex i'd say your exactly right! :D most people that have anchor issues that i've talked to(like all three of them)don't have anough angle/length on the rope
and yeah i use it at elsinore where the wind tries to blow the tail of my boat sideways all after noon and i never have a problem-21'bowrider,small anchor
[ July 10, 2003, 09:02 PM: Message edited by: bordsmnj ]

OutCole'd
07-10-2003, 08:24 PM
RiverToysJas:
OutCole'd:
I had a box anchor and loved it. Never a problem holding. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to open, but worth it. The problem it got stolen from in front of Blue water last weekend.
Note to self, Leave nothing out, thieving bastards. :mad: You think the people at the Blue Water took it in because they didn't want people saving spaces??? Just a thought.
RTJas :D I dought it, I think it was the locals that took it. They are probaly going to sell it to get some wompum. :D

Rod-64
07-10-2003, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the input all....I will be spending 4 days at bml....my first time slipping the boat overnight that many nights....hope no one messes with the boat and stuff. I'll try the large one and see how it works for me. As far as people stealing anchors and other things ..well...wouldn't you, just once, like to catch them in the act and break their friggin arms off. :mad: Thanks again. :cool:

Slick
07-10-2003, 10:28 PM
I use the Digger Anchor. It's a Danforth style and kicks ass. I use the smaller #12 size. It sets the first time, no rope (I meant chain, thanks for pointing that out) needed and has a very easy retrieval. In fact, over the 4th, I set it in about 50' of water with only 100' of rope and it held great in 15mph winds. http://www.diggeranchor.com/
http://www.coverquest.com/covers/boat/images/sideview2_new.jpg
http://www.coverquest.com/covers/boat/images/alldiggers.jpg
Let me know if anyone is interested. I can get a pretty good price on them.
[ July 11, 2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Slick ]

gigamurph
07-11-2003, 12:37 AM
".....no rope needed ....."-slick
Now I've been doin' alot of "lurkin' and jerkin'" lately, but slick, I couldn't pass on this statement. That's one helluva anchor! You don't have to tie your boat to it and it still holds?.....and do you have to dive for it or do ya just whistle? Sorry dude; couldn't resist. As for the box anchor; IMO it's the best damn anchor I've ever used! Haven't had it fail yet. Of course, it's not hard to hold a 17 footer, but others including the Danforths, performed miserably when the winds or waves kicked up at Crazy Horse; and our box anchor held everywhere we used it the week of OP6C-V; Steamboat, Gene Wash Cove, and just off of Windsor. The slide anchor is bitchin' too. Worth the investment in both cases, again IMO. :D

SCUBA STEVE
07-11-2003, 08:19 AM
I had my cheap ass river anchor "removed" (the mushroom vinyl coated kind) from the blue water casino beach on a non holiday weekend.
wtf? I guess I'll try the bleach container bouy next time.
Damn RD, give it back! lol :D :D
I have left my box anchor & slide anchor out over night at crazy horse in havasu on holiday weekends and nothing has happened to them. (yet)
I do agree the box anchor is a biatch to open up and handle. But well worth it. :cool:

Waldo
07-11-2003, 08:50 AM
Bought mine at the OC Boat show earlier this year. Have used it about 6 times (21 foot boat) since then. Only had one problem on a windy day. Sounds like I didn't have enough rope laid out for it.
I use it with the slide anchor and it works great. It also packs up real nice with the bag and such. I put everything in and store it nicely in under the bench.

mtndewdrops
07-11-2003, 03:58 PM
Slide Anchor Box Rules, However; the slide hammer spike BROKE the second time I used it. The weld broke on the bottom. :mad: Emerald Cove has better ones for less $$$
I got my anchor after posting on ***boat and they steered me in the right direction. :cool: I used the DIGGER before and it let loose on me a few times. :(
The BOX held many boats on OP6C V. :D Even though our row of 20 boats did a 180 it held beautifully.

SCUBA STEVE
07-11-2003, 04:04 PM
mtndewdrops:
Slide Anchor Box Rules, However; the slide hammer spike BROKE the second time I used it. The weld broke on the bottom. :mad: Emerald Cove has better ones for less $$$
I got my anchor after posting on ***boat and they steered me in the right direction. :cool: I used the DIGGER before and it let loose on me a few times. :(
The BOX held many boats on OP6C V. :D Even though our row of 20 boats did a 180 it held beautifully. You should be able to get your $ back for the spike.

sandblasted
07-11-2003, 05:13 PM
I'm not going go knock the box anchor because I've never used one...I bought a Hooker anchor from overtons a few weeks ago for $16.99...it holds great in muddy bottoms...when I was at Naci for the 4th those damn wakeboard boats kept coming by and the bow of my boat was really slamming up and down...Anchor never moved...
Ok, I'm a cheap bastard but I'd rather spend money on gas for the boat or beer then $120 on an anchor!

mike37
07-11-2003, 05:49 PM
sandblasted:
I'm not going go knock the box anchor because I've never used one...I bought a Hooker anchor from overtons a few weeks ago for $16.99...it holds great in muddy bottoms...when I was at Naci for the 4th those damn wakeboard boats kept coming by and the bow of my boat was really slamming up and down...Anchor never moved...
Ok, I'm a cheap bastard but I'd rather spend money on gas for the boat or beer then $120 on an anchor! you got lucky naci has a lot of diferent typs of bottums it my woke in one spot but not in others
the box is the best ive had

sandblasted
07-11-2003, 06:00 PM
mike37:
sandblasted:
I'm not going go knock the box anchor because I've never used one...I bought a Hooker anchor from overtons a few weeks ago for $16.99...it holds great in muddy bottoms...when I was at Naci for the 4th those damn wakeboard boats kept coming by and the bow of my boat was really slamming up and down...Anchor never moved...
Ok, I'm a cheap bastard but I'd rather spend money on gas for the boat or beer then $120 on an anchor! you got lucky naci has a lot of diferent typs of bottums it my woke in one spot but not in others
the box is the best ive had Next time I go to Naci and the anchor doesn't hold I'll have to hunt you down and tie off your boat :D

77charger
07-11-2003, 06:54 PM
I have thought about buying a box anchor but really dont fell the need to kick out 120 bucks.When i dive i find standard anchors in the ocean all the time and when i need one i'll pick it up(you'd be amazed how many get wedged in rocks and reefs).
The only problem i have with a standard anchor is a hard bottom(i have seen people with box anchors have trouble too). it takes some time to get it to set as for sandy botttoms i have never had a prob even with monsoons at lake powell but i do let out alot of rope and have about 5-6ft of chain.I use at the min a 3-1 ratio more if needed i held my boat plus another at aha quin sandbar past mem wknd with a standard anchor even though the current was moving fast and the water rising fast too used about40 ft of rope for 4 ft of water.IMO rope to depth ratio is the key no matter the anchor

mtndewdrops
07-11-2003, 07:32 PM
I agree with 77C...it is the ratio that matters for an anchor to set.
The problem lies when someone runs over your anchor rope. I use a buoy to mark it but people seem to cruise awful close these days.
A V-drive sucked mine up over 4th July week at about 10:30 at night. I was out there lending a flashlight and they managed to keep my rope in 1 piece. A bit frayed now though.

C-2
07-11-2003, 08:11 PM
I’ve had one since 95’ and am very happy with it. It kinda depends on the bottom and how you set it. I’ve tied off three boats at Buckskin in Parker with no problems. However, I still carry a traditional anchor as well, a forged aluminum Danforth. Damn thing is expensive, but small, light, holds great and you can chuck it about 30’ without a problem.
Using a box anchor on the sandbar...ouch if nobody else knows its around.
Setting an anchor at Elsinore and picking it up at the end of the day usually goes something like this…
"You pick it up…NO..you pick it up, I’m not touching that smelly *##^@$ thing….O.K., let’s flip for it."
I hate when I lose, the smell of that mud is unreal and can’t be easily rinsed off.
Hope it helps and happy shopping!
:)

PlayTime
07-11-2003, 10:08 PM
Love my Box Anchor, not a scratch or sign of rust yet, Now all I need is a rope so I could use the dam thing :D :D They should give you the rope with the anchor at that price. smile_sp