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BUSTI
10-13-2003, 04:01 PM
Liberals have so indoctrinated our country with their multi-culturalism crap that our young kids in school are taught a load and taught that the white European discovery of the Americas was an evil thing! I had the opportunity to review with my 7th grade nephew his American history book. OH MY GOD!! You would think that America is non existent in the world as a source of good. The book only talked about how the discovery of the Americas led to the death of the indegenous indians. It read with out mention that the courageous men that discovered and settled the new world and that from that modest beginning in 1492 that the europeans that came to found the greatest force for good that the world has ever seen...THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
No where in the study had the students learned that only in the new world does more original democracies remain than any other region in the world. All though poor in Latin America they love their freedom. And no mention that the US and its American neighbors produce over 2/3 of all the fruits, vegetables and beef that the world consumes. No where in the text did it say or imply that more people live under freedom in North and South America than any other part of the globe. And of course no mention that Americans scientists and medical researchers are responsible for over 98% of all of the life saving drugs invented in the last 150 years. That more countries send their students to the Americas for education than any other part of the world.
And undoubtedly they forgot to mention that all of this got its start because of one little man that ventured across the ocean and dared to go where no man had even dreamed of going...and his name was Columbus. He was in my mind the original HOT BOAT DUDE! Our kids are taught to be embarrassed of him! According to all the special minority groups of this happy horse shit multi culturalism bullshit we should all be ashamed of him.
WELL I SAY SCREW THAT! THANK GOD HE HAD THE BALLS HE HAD OR NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE TODAY!

Dr. Eagle
10-13-2003, 04:23 PM
Yeah, the frickin re write of history has been going on for some time now. Columbus was an evil evil man...and he is so politically incorrect.
STUPID LIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boatcop
10-13-2003, 04:31 PM
Since the Vikings were here long before Columbus, I just wonder why we have a Holiday for him, and not Leif Ericsson, or some other Scandanavian?
Especially since Columbus never set foot on the American Continent. It was Amerigo Vespucci who "discovered" what now bears his name?
PC is running rampant in Arizona. Several years ago, the NFL held us hostage and didn't consider Phoenix for a Super Bowl site, since we didn't celebrate "MLK" Day. (Not that we've ever had a "Professional" Football Team or anything. :rolleyes: )
The state bowed and declared a MLK State Holiday, and the next year we were selected as a Super Bowl Site.
But in creating a new state Holiday, they had to take one away. Which one, he inquired? Columbus Day, what else. Put in a PC Holiday and take out a Non-PC Holiday.
Now all the State Workers have to work today, while almost everyone else (Federal, Postal, Banks, County, City, etc.) has the day off. Even the Arizona Schools are in session.
Non-PC or not, I didn't hear any of the Indians that work with my wife at the Indian Hospital (Federal Public Health Service Facility) complain about getting today off with pay, nor did any of them show up for work out of "Principles".
[ October 13, 2003, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Boatcop ]

Dr. Eagle
10-13-2003, 04:35 PM
Damn,..... eloquent......thoughtful......well said!!!!!!!

Dribble
10-13-2003, 05:27 PM
And all this time I thought this Vespucci guy discovered the Vespa.
I did my part for Columbus day. We just dropped aboout three bills at the local Indian Casino.

Dr. Eagle
10-13-2003, 06:32 PM
Dribble:
And all this time I thought this Vespucci guy discovered the Vespa.
I did my part for Columbus day. We just dropped aboout three bills at the local Indian Casino. LOL, Vespa LMAO, As far as the Indian Casinos...paybacks are a bitch!
[ October 13, 2003, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Eagle ]

spectras only
10-13-2003, 06:45 PM
Alan, you're not trying to descredit Christopher now ,are you wink ? . Amerigo was HIS navigator and he WAS the captain :p .

haulina29
10-13-2003, 08:05 PM
Chris was way ahead of his time , he left not knowing were he was goin and returned not knowing were he had been and to top it off he did it all with borrowed money!! :D

Seadog
10-14-2003, 07:27 AM
It is ridiculous the garbage that is put out making Columbus a villian that began the exploitation of the native americans. Do they really think that if he hadn't someone more PC would? BTW, Amerigo Vespucci did not discover anything. It is not even certain if he set foot on the continent. A long time after Columbus and many others, he chartered the coastal area. His reports were so engrossing to the people back in Europe that they began to refer to it as Amerigo's land.

beached 1
10-14-2003, 07:44 AM
Dribble:
And all this time I thought this Vespucci guy discovered the Vespa.
LOL!
I didn't know Leif Garrett was a Viking.
:D

Dave C
10-14-2003, 07:51 AM
Yesterday we were "joking" that they should re-name Columbus day, “indigenous people’s resistance day.”
Then just for laughs we were turning into the local super-left-wing radio station and the speaker referred to Columbus day exactly by this moniker.
I said I wanted royalties because they stole my bit.
BTW, I though that Columbus day was an Italian-American holiday (being one myself) Did you see the Sopranos episode when the gangsters beat up some people for protesting Columbus day in their own town?
Dave C<--- lives near PC capital of the world, where conservatives are required to wear yellow stars on their lapel and where they voted against recall by 80%
[ October 14, 2003, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Dave C ]

eliminatedsprinter
10-14-2003, 08:56 AM
Amerigo Vespucci is the explorer/cartographer/navigator who is credited with clarifying that the new world was not india or the far east. He is credited with sailing up the east coast of S. America and discovering the mouth of the amazon in 1499.
In my field we have a saying "If it's not documented it didn't happen". Of course, Columbus didn't discover anything. However, he did do the best job of documenting what he did.
This PC stuff is a pain. My son got off school on the 6th and I was off yesterday. The L.A.U.S.D. is, of course, as PC as any group can be. They teach American history pretty much from the M.E.T.C.H.A. handbook. :rolleyes:
[ October 14, 2003, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

BUSTI
10-14-2003, 11:46 AM
All good points fellas and I guess over all the liberal intent is to deny the good America has meant to the world. Left up to the liberal left wackos that teach our children we should not give props to all those that add a hand in creating the new world which became America!
We should pay attention to the crap they are teaching our kids and like we had a tax payer revolt with prop 13,and the recal leading to the firing of davis and hiring of Arnold...maybe we should recall school boards and have a parent revolt and take back our kids classroom and get back to basics. That is the 3 r and promoting what is good about this country.

sam pioske
10-14-2003, 07:53 PM
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!

OGShocker
10-15-2003, 12:13 PM
BUSTI:
All good points fellas and I guess over all the liberal intent is to deny the good America has meant to the world. Left up to the liberal left wackos that teach our children we should not give props to all those that add a hand in creating the new world which became America!
We should pay attention to the crap they are teaching our kids and like we had a tax payer revolt with prop 13,and the recal leading to the firing of davis and hiring of Arnold...maybe we should recall school boards and have a parent revolt and take back our kids classroom and get back to basics. That is the 3 r and promoting what is good about this country. This BS about "It takes a village" http://www.foxnews.com/images/104117/1_21_101303_clinton_hillary.jpg drives me crazy! It does take a revolt now and again!

BUSTI
10-15-2003, 12:37 PM
The left headed by the clintons want to destroy fundamental pride in America by its citizens! It is their goal to strip Americans of their roots. That is that individualism rooted in capitalism is to be abondoned so that they can start to recreate AmeriKa into a socialist state. they hate property ownership, the right to bare arms, the pursuit of your own financial goals for your own net worth, freedom of religion, and the most important the freedom to think freely....these are just a few of the values these pukes want to destroy. Especially patriotism!

Dr. Eagle
10-15-2003, 01:15 PM
BUSTI:
The left headed by the clintons want to destroy fundamental pride in America by its citizens! It is their goal to strip Americans of their roots. That is that individualism rooted in capitalism is to be abondoned so that they can start to recreate AmeriKa into a socialist state. they hate property ownership, the right to bare arms, the pursuit of your own financial goals for your own net worth, freedom of religion, and the most important the freedom to think freely....these are just a few of the values these pukes want to destroy. Especially patriotism! And Most of all...they hate SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE, unless that is the Clintons...gotta tax the crap out of those SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE, they gotta pay THEIR FAIR SHARE...you know...Socialism/Communism. Oh and good point on Patriotism...lets redefine that as "It is Patriotic to BADGER the CRAP out of the PRESIDENT"!!!!!!!!!! burningm burningm burningm
[ October 15, 2003, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Eagle ]

AzDon
10-15-2003, 03:52 PM
BUSTI:
The left headed by the clintons want to destroy fundamental pride in America by its citizens! It is their goal to strip Americans of their roots. That is that individualism rooted in capitalism is to be abondoned so that they can start to recreate AmeriKa into a socialist state. they hate property ownership, the right to bare arms, the pursuit of your own financial goals for your own net worth, freedom of religion, and the most important the freedom to think freely....these are just a few of the values these pukes want to destroy. Especially patriotism! Do you have any legitimate, published sources for this crap or are you a spokesperson for the Clintons?

eliminatedsprinter
10-15-2003, 04:24 PM
AzDon:
BUSTI:
The left headed by the clintons want to destroy fundamental pride in America by its citizens! It is their goal to strip Americans of their roots. That is that individualism rooted in capitalism is to be abondoned so that they can start to recreate AmeriKa into a socialist state. they hate property ownership, the right to bare arms, the pursuit of your own financial goals for your own net worth, freedom of religion, and the most important the freedom to think freely....these are just a few of the values these pukes want to destroy. Especially patriotism! Do you have any legitimate, published sources for this crap or are you a spokesperson for the Clintons? The best sources I can find to back this up is the literature of the left itself. Take for example the values promoted by the holiday of Kwanza. They are geared twards emphisizing collectivism and de-empisizing individualism. I remember reading an article in a left wing periodical (sorry I'm ashamed of myself for citing a source that I have forgotten the name of) that was on hate speach. It contained a list of commen words and phrases that were actually "code" for expressions of hate. This list contained such evil phrases and words as: Achievement, virtue, personal accomplishment, success, etc....
Again I apologize for not citing more specific sources, however I'm not near any at the time and The Sandbar is kind of casual conversation anyways. :cool:
[ October 15, 2003, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]