EDGE JUICE...ANYONE have one? [Archive]

TOBTEK

11-05-2003, 09:33 AM

I hear this is the company to go with to reprogram the computer in the duramax. anyone have one? and is the new "HOTBOX" and "attitude" lcd monitor nessessary? with everything they are claiming about 800 pounds of torque......wow.

Party Cat

11-05-2003, 09:42 AM

Got both sittin in my office at home....they will go on along with the air box dealio and exhaust next week :D :D

STV_Keith

11-05-2003, 09:47 AM

Yep, it's a wicked little setup. I would recommend adding exhaust to it too, and perhaps the airbox (the airbox isn't mandatory like the exhaust is, but adds another 9-10hp).
I'm pretty sure we have about the best price on them in the market. Check out the site at: Diesel Dynamics (http://www.dieseldynamics.com)

TOBTEK

11-05-2003, 11:36 AM

what about the NEW HOTBOX upgrade? worth the extra $$$$$ ?

STV_Keith

11-05-2003, 03:19 PM

When you package the standard Juice with an attitude, you get what the old Hot box used to offer. 30-50-70-90hp is the std box, 50-70-90-125 is the hot (or a std w/attitude), and the hot w/attitude is 70-90-125-150.
Unless you plan on racing or something, I woudn't go any more than the std with attitude. EGT's are already getting up there at 125hp.

TOBTEK

11-05-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
When you package the standard Juice with an attitude, you get what the old Hot box used to offer. 30-50-70-90hp is the std box, 50-70-90-125 is the hot (or a std w/attitude), and the hot w/attitude is 70-90-125-150.
Unless you plan on racing or something, I woudn't go any more than the std with attitude. EGT's are already getting up there at 125hp.
excuse the lame question.....BUT "EGT" ...is that engine exuast temp? or???????
I see on EBAY that the normal juice is in the mid 500's what can you get me the 125HP with attutiude for? and dont really want to mount the attutude on the A-piller....can you mount it somewhere where it looks nicer? What is the hot set-up on exuast system, and cold air......if it really needs it??

STV_Keith

11-05-2003, 04:29 PM

Yes, EGT = Exhaust Gas Temperature.
PM me on the pricing.

Froggystyle

11-10-2003, 12:38 PM

I will post pics of the Attitude install I did for SEMA. Turned out pretty trick.
Fact... at about 15mph from a dead stop, my truck comes onto boost right now with the Juice on "5" and broils the 37's. Major increase in performance, and my mileage went up as well.
I absolutely love it.

TOBTEK

11-10-2003, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Froggystyle
I will post pics of the Attitude install I did for SEMA. Turned out pretty trick.
Fact... at about 15mph from a dead stop, my truck comes onto boost right now with the Juice on "5" and broils the 37's. Major increase in performance, and my mileage went up as well.
I absolutely love it.
pics,pics,pics....where did you mount it froggy? hehehehe.....I said mount it;) :D

Party Cat

11-12-2003, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Froggystyle
I will post pics of the Attitude install I did for SEMA. Turned out pretty trick.
Fact... at about 15mph from a dead stop, my truck comes onto boost right now with the Juice on "5" and broils the 37's. Major increase in performance, and my mileage went up as well.
I absolutely love it.
I just put the Juice and the Attitud dealio on last night....Ditto what Froggy says...I absolutely love it !!!!

Froggystyle

11-12-2003, 02:22 PM

I mounted mine in the blank place in the center overhead console. I flushed it in, then mounted (hehe) it from behind with epoxy.
Turned out pretty clean. I had to have Diesel Dynamics make me a longer harness to get it to fit, but all in all it turned out really nice.
Pic to follow...

TOBTEK

11-13-2003, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Froggystyle
I mounted mine in the blank place in the center overhead console. I flushed it in, then mounted (hehe) it from behind with epoxy.
Turned out pretty clean. I had to have Diesel Dynamics make me a longer harness to get it to fit, but all in all it turned out really nice.
Pic to follow...
thanks Froggy! really want to see a pic, I was also thinking of mounting it down by the cigie lighter....... now with the attitude monitor you can swith from the different power settings without all the funky step through the gear selector right:confused: that way seems kinda cheezy?????? did you get the std juice plus attitude or did you get the new "HOTBOX + attitude 150HP dealio"?

Froggystyle

11-13-2003, 10:50 PM

I got the new hotness I believe.
We figured with the Bassani Exhaust, K&N FIPK, Edge and Attitude, I am getting around 400+ hp and 820+torque.
I am in lust with it. I towed an enclosed 24'er with the Vette and some tools, wheels and tires and jacks etc... and it didn't even sweat.
I figured it would do well, but it totally kicked ass. What the coolest thing was, was watching the EGT hit 1300 and stay there, regardless of the hill and regardless of the throttle. I just left it on level 5 and called it a day.
On another note, after driving back from Vegas with it, and towing the Vette from Anaheim today, I average 1.5 mpg better with the box and attitude.
Pics in the morn Toby... pics in the morn.

Outnumbered

11-14-2003, 01:28 AM

This thing looks bad-ass!
http://www.edgeproductsinc.com/images/GM%20Attitude%20Instructions.pdf
When is the Dodge version out? Looks like you dont need guages with this thing (except trans temp).
STV, when this comes out for the Dodge let me know. I'll take a trip to Vegas and hook it up.
Thanks,
OL

STV_Keith

11-14-2003, 09:13 AM

OL, the Dodge version will be out after the new timing-duration box for your 2003/4 truck.

Outnumbered

11-14-2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
OL, the Dodge version will be out after the new timing-duration box for your 2003/4 truck.
Thanks Keith. So the Attitude is mainly a monitoring system and in-cab controller from what I have read? No guages necessary for boost and EGT? The actual power mods come from the Edge Juice right? What is the timing-duration? Is that an Edge product or DD? If I'm looking to get about the same (or more:D) power as a non-Kalifornia HO, what will I need now with the new tech that has come out since we talked last. Sorry for all the questions but a lot has changed in the past few months.
Thanks!!!
OL

Froggystyle

11-15-2003, 12:22 PM

From what I understand, while the attitude is just a monitoring system, because it allows you to de-fuel at a prescribed max EGT, it also allows the Juice another level of performance. Because it will monitor and adjust to an overheat condition, and the fact that in guarantees that you are aware of the temps/readings it will bump the max performance of the Juice up considerably from just the Juice with manual control.
I definitely feel a difference between the Juice on level 4 and the Attitude/Juice on level 5.

STV_Keith

11-15-2003, 12:44 PM

OL, the Attitude for the Duramax is interactive. The standard unit without the Attitude has adjustable power levels, but this is done through the tow/haul switch. After adding the Attitude, you get this on the unit instead of having to use the tow/haul switch. Yes, it also gives you the info of boost, pryometer, trans temp, trans slip, EGT backdown set point, trans shifting parameters, responsiveness, etc, but this is only for the Dmax at this point.
The Attitude being released for the Powerstroke 6.0 will be only a monitor and display pryo, boost, RPM and EGT backdown.
The Attitude for the 03/04 Dodges' has not been spec'd as to what it will do or display yet.
The electronic modules are built by Edge Products, distributed by DD as well as others. In the case of the newest units, DD will have a hand in the programming of these units.

Outnumbered

11-15-2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
OL, the Attitude for the Duramax is interactive. The standard unit without the Attitude has adjustable power levels, but this is done through the tow/haul switch. After adding the Attitude, you get this on the unit instead of having to use the tow/haul switch. Yes, it also gives you the info of boost, pryometer, trans temp, trans slip, EGT backdown set point, trans shifting parameters, responsiveness, etc, but this is only for the Dmax at this point.
The Attitude being released for the Powerstroke 6.0 will be only a monitor and display pryo, boost, RPM and EGT backdown.
The Attitude for the 03/04 Dodges' has not been spec'd as to what it will do or display yet.
The electronic modules are built by Edge Products, distributed by DD as well as others. In the case of the newest units, DD will have a hand in the programming of these units.
Cool! Thanks for the info. Keep us posted.
Froggy, thanks for the help. I'd love to see the pics on how you mounted it.
OL

HighRoller

11-16-2003, 03:00 PM

A word of caution for Froggy and anyone else.1300 degrees is usually considered beyond maximum recommended EGT for a diesel.On top of that,the Duramax has aluminum heads so I'd be even more cautious.The Detroit(12.7 liter)in my commercial truck will shut off before reaching 1300 to save itself,and it has a massive intercooler and a steel head.Ford recommended the new 6.0 PS be kept under 1000 on long hills and it has steel heads.Maybe Keith will prove me wrong on this if there's something I don't know,but it seems like aluminum heads would warp after a while under that kind of heat.

STV_Keith

11-16-2003, 05:06 PM

I usually use an upper limit of 1250*F, pre-turbo - or as hot as it will get stock; whichever is higher.

Outnumbered

11-16-2003, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
I usually use an upper limit of 1250*F, pre-turbo - or as hot as it will get stock; whichever is higher.
What does the Cummins EGT run in SO form stock?
Assumimg the Dodge version of the Edge/Attitude is similar to the D-max; once I install the Edge/Attitude can I run a "non-modified" setting and monitor stock EGT before turning up the power?
Thanks,
OL

Froggystyle

11-16-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
I usually use an upper limit of 1250*F, pre-turbo - or as hot as it will get stock; whichever is higher.
Uh oh...
What should I set as my max in the D-max then? High Roller has me scared now...
I have it at 1300. Stock on the Attitude was 1350. What would be prudent and safe?

STV_Keith

11-17-2003, 09:00 AM

OL, every truck is different, but the HO's will go 1400 pulling a load stock. The SO's are a little cooler (around 1100) typically.
Froggy, I'd set it at 1250, but I'm sure it will go more than that stock. 1250 is DEFINITELY safe. I have some customer that bury a 1600* gauge all the time. I don't recommend it, but people do it.

Outnumbered

11-17-2003, 09:46 AM

Thanks Keith. Keep me posted on the Dodge set-up. That is the way to go. I'll wait for it, I'm in no hurry.
Thanks,
OL

Froggystyle

11-17-2003, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by STV_Keith
OL, every truck is different, but the HO's will go 1400 pulling a load stock. The SO's are a little cooler (around 1100) typically.
Froggy, I'd set it at 1250, but I'm sure it will go more than that stock. 1250 is DEFINITELY safe. I have some customer that bury a 1600* gauge all the time. I don't recommend it, but people do it.
If I put it on "0" and see how high it will go, is that a good indicator of how high I should set my max?
Or does the new exhaust screw that all up?

Outnumbered

11-18-2003, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Froggystyle
If I put it on "0" and see how high it will go, is that a good indicator of how high I should set my max?
Or does the new exhaust screw that all up?
Froggy, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I didn't know if it had a "zero" setting though. Seems logical to me. The exhaust is the big ???
What about those pix? Did you do gauges too? I wasn't too hip on loosing the A-pillar grab handle to a gauge pod so the Attitude seems like the shit. Mrs. OL would kick my ass because she would not be able to get into the truck :D
OL

STV_Keith

11-18-2003, 09:05 AM

Froggy, yes. Typically, the exhaust will help by about 150-200* on the Dmax.
OL, the Dmax setup is adjustable on the fly. The unit for your Cummins, is not, but there is a "0" setting in the box.

Outnumbered

11-18-2003, 04:43 PM

I'm waiting for the on-the-fly model. Sounds like it may be in the works. Right?
OL

Ivan Dan

08-12-2004, 05:30 PM

I'm waiting for the on-the-fly model. Sounds like it may be in the works. Right?
OL
Did this come out yet? How much is it? What kind of performance gains are you seeing?

Outnumbered

08-12-2004, 05:33 PM

Did this come out yet? How much is it? What kind of performance gains are you seeing?
I think its in testing still. PM STV_keith to get the scoop.
OL

PHX ATC

08-12-2004, 08:34 PM

OL is correct, the good stuff for the Cummins ain't out yet.
Damn. :lightsabe

Magic34

08-24-2004, 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=TOBTEK]thanks Froggy! really want to see a pic, I was also thinking of mounting it down by the cigie lighter
I made something that I should have available for installation in the next week or so for the Chevy's.

Jordy

08-24-2004, 10:27 AM

I made something that I should have available for installation in the next week or so for the Chevy's.
ATS makes a cool billet deal that mounts in the overhead bin. I was looking at one of those but have kind of come to like having it mounted on the dash above the 4x4 buttons with velcro. The fact that I can glance down and see the true speed is really nice. :cool:

Lightning

08-24-2004, 11:50 AM

ATS makes a cool billet deal that mounts in the overhead bin. I was looking at one of those but have kind of come to like having it mounted on the dash above the 4x4 buttons with velcro. The fact that I can glance down and see the true speed is really nice. :cool:
Do you have a photo ??

mbrown2

08-24-2004, 01:48 PM

From the dieselspecialist website
http://www.dieselspecialists.net/edgemountswitch.jpg

Party Cat

08-24-2004, 01:59 PM

mbrown2

08-24-2004, 03:09 PM

Lavey BoB is working on a version of that billett piece that will be angled for a better view of the #'s on the display....the ATS piece is nice....but a little hard to read unless ya move your head to the center of the truck....
Thanks for the info...I am thinking about this chip and where to install it...

Party Cat

08-24-2004, 04:53 PM

Thanks for the info...I am thinking about this chip and where to install it...
If ya want one...get ahold of STV_Keith...he'll get ya set up with RRL Pricing :D :D

BLOWN HOWARD

08-24-2004, 08:46 PM

I can get a pretty smokin deal on the whole set up for 700bucks out the door. Cant beat the pricing and if you can speak up. I want one!!!!!!!!!

TOBTEK

08-25-2004, 09:31 AM

Lavey BoB is working on a version of that billett piece that will be angled for a better view of the #'s on the display....the ATS piece is nice....but a little hard to read unless ya move your head to the center of the truck....
keep us posted on his new billet bracket! I have mine down by the two pockets/cig lighter and want to move it to make room for the new 10" lcd screen down there.

BLOWN HOWARD

08-25-2004, 03:49 PM

keep us posted on his new billet bracket! I have mine down by the two pockets/cig lighter and want to move it to make room for the new 10" lcd screen down there.
Hey you got the same idea i doo down there for the T.V screen huh. when do you plan on getting yours done? Have you gotten any quotes yet ?

UnionJack

08-26-2004, 02:43 PM

Call WCD, talk to niel @ 909-260-5205

TOBTEK

08-28-2004, 10:10 AM

Hey you got the same idea i doo down there for the T.V screen huh. when do you plan on getting yours done? Have you gotten any quotes yet ?
ROZ'S buddy at the Encinitas TWEETER "juan" does some killer fiberglass work for very good prices. haven't recieved a firm quote yet. Had a Rosen in dash DVD player (double DIN) installed a while back, but have since removed it and when back to the stock in dash 6 disc changer(that will be sweet in a future golf cart!). The aftermarket player jacked up the onstar phone system, couldn't adjust the volume. So this route should be the hot ticket!

NorCalCat

09-20-2004, 02:10 PM

OMG! I just put the Attitude Juice in my new F 250 6.0. The power is unbelievable. Added a 4" lift with 35" BFG's and it will roast them...Gonna tow this weekend. :D

jet4fun

09-20-2004, 07:26 PM

where did you get it from, i am in chico, just wondering

Jordy

09-20-2004, 07:42 PM

where did you get it from, i am in chico, just wondering
Hit up STV_Keith on the boards. He works for Diesel Dynamics in Vegas and has all the goodies. :D

NorCalCat

09-21-2004, 11:56 AM

where did you get it from, i am in chico, just wondering
I got it on line. I thought it was a great deal. 6.0 performnance Package
http://shopdiesel.com/
Had it installed by California Concepts in Redwood City.

STV_Keith

09-21-2004, 12:40 PM

Heh, I can beat their prices. :D

BLOWN HOWARD

09-21-2004, 03:32 PM

Hey Keith i am looking for an exhaust for my 2004 Duramax wich one do you recomend and what prices are we talking here.

PC Rat

09-21-2004, 03:41 PM

Hey Tobtek, go to this site http://www.dieselplace.com/
-everything you want to know.
Brian

Ivan Dan

10-24-2004, 05:44 PM

Heh, I can beat their prices. :D
Hey.....any word on The Edge with Juice for the 04.5 Cummins? Wanna get my dad one for a present. Thanks in advance!

STV_Keith

10-24-2004, 05:50 PM

Should be out real soon. We got a prototype last week that worked very well. I think that's the last Beta.

Ivan Dan

10-24-2004, 05:56 PM

Should be out real soon. We got a prototype last week that worked very well. I think that's the last Beta.
Killer! Any idea on the price? I want one as soon as they are available.
Thanks!

BADBLOWN572

10-24-2004, 06:31 PM

Here are a couple of pictures of my installation on my '04 F-250. STV_Keith hooked me up and I am definitely happy with the results it has made on my truck. Normally I cruise around town on level 2 or 3 and if I want to spank some rice rockets in a stoplight battle, kick it up to 4 or 5. They will not have any idea what hit them. Kinda humbling when a big diesel truck sitting on 35" tires spanks a rice rocket in a drag race. :2purples:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNjE3ODE0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNjE3ODE1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wNjE3ODE2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

Ivan Dan

10-24-2004, 07:05 PM

Ivan Dan

10-30-2004, 10:38 PM

Anything yet on the 2004 1/2 Cummins Edge yet? Prices yet?
Thanks in advance!

STV_Keith

11-01-2004, 09:02 AM

MSRP is $999, but I'll be able to do better for the HB & RRL guys. Should be soon. Last rounds of tuning were done last week.

Ivan Dan

11-01-2004, 03:45 PM

MSRP is $999, but I'll be able to do better for the HB & RRL guys. Should be soon. Last rounds of tuning were done last week.
Excellent! I really appreciate any deal you could give me. Let me know ASAP.
Thanks!
DAN

STV_Keith

11-02-2004, 08:59 AM

Send me a PM or hit me up on Riverratlife.com (http://www.riverratlife.com).

PHX ATC

11-02-2004, 09:03 AM

Anything yet on the 2004 1/2 Cummins Edge yet? Prices yet?
Thanks in advance!
I hope it helps mileage. :rollside:

Sane Asylum

11-02-2004, 07:28 PM

STV_Keith

11-04-2004, 10:47 AM

The trans in the Ford is the weak link for sure...just like the Dodge. I always recommend to run the boxes on the lowest setting where you have all the power increase you need/want - or buy a manual. :)

Jordy

11-04-2004, 02:59 PM

STV....Bunch of threads in @ thedieselplace.com that talk about the ally trans being FUBARED after folks run their juice/attitude set up in 5 for any period of time. Isn't there a max torque input the trans will take before it starts spittin metal?
The guys on that board that have had trouble all talk about the trans going into "LIMP" mode.......I only do that after a janet reno sighting but wondered if you'd heard of it.....
PS.....If you've got a D'max......Go to the dieselplace.com.....It'll scare the chit outta ya or make you more informed.....
I've had mine for almost a year and don't think I've ever taken it out of 5, even towing boats and big ass generators around. No problems here. Although I do have a special warranty program in place in the event of something happening. ;) :D

TOBTEK

11-22-2004, 11:31 AM

WELL.....the second juice box FAILed this weekend. Truck will not start when its connected period. The Good news is that there CUSTOMER SERVICE ROCKS! Shipping a new unit out without any questions. man the trucks a TURD without it :( NEED MY JUICE BACK.
has anyone seen the new ATTUTITE monitor on there website? Looks super trick, wonder whats different? http://edgeproducts.com

STV_Keith

11-22-2004, 11:40 AM

TOBTEK

11-22-2004, 02:31 PM

Damn Tob, that's some bad luck. I know guys that have had them since 02 when they came out with no problems.
The new A2 is gonna be killer. Wireless backup camera, built in GPS, much larger, color screen, etc. They are saying March, which means August I'd guess. :hammer2:
anymore HP with the A2? gonna put a 7" LCD DVD with back-up camera so im handled on that plan....but more hp, id be curious....

OutCole'd

11-22-2004, 02:33 PM

Jordy

11-22-2004, 03:11 PM

The new A2 is gonna be killer. Wireless backup camera, built in GPS, much larger, color screen, etc. They are saying March, which means August I'd guess. :hammer2:
I saw it in person at SEMA and am chomping at the bit for it to come out because I need more toys in my truck. :D

TOBTEK

11-22-2004, 03:21 PM

I saw it in person at SEMA and am chomping at the bit for it to come out because I need more toys in my truck. :D
looks really trick. I hope they have a better mount then is supplied with the reg Attutide :( ...that blows!

Jordy

11-22-2004, 03:26 PM

looks really trick. I hope they have a better mount then is supplied with the reg Attutide :( ...that blows!
They had a badass new mount for the Attitude, looks even better than the ATS on thats out there for the overhead... it's at an angle and polished.

Lightning

11-22-2004, 03:34 PM

I knew I was waiting on getting one for a reason, that thing looks awesome. Has anyone seen the attitude mounts for the A-pillar - those are pretty cool looking. Have not seen one in person though.

Froggystyle

11-22-2004, 07:06 PM

Here is the new TTS mount installed in my truck. Took about 5-8 minutes all said and done.
http://www.highperformancecars.com/froggystyle/tts_bezel.jpg
I love it. It angles the unit very very well, and you don't have to strain to see it. Plus, it looks extremely trick in person. The flash doesn't do much for the polished aluminum.

Ivan Dan

11-23-2004, 11:11 PM

Damn Tob, that's some bad luck. I know guys that have had them since 02 when they came out with no problems.
The new A2 is gonna be killer. Wireless backup camera, built in GPS, much larger, color screen, etc. They are saying March, which means August I'd guess. :hammer2:
Anything yet on the one for the 2004 1/2 - 2005 Dodge Cummins?

PHX ATC

11-24-2004, 06:05 AM

STV would know more, but I don't think so........still waiting.
Grab a Snickers, maybe that will help. :rollside:

STV_Keith

11-24-2004, 09:49 AM

Ivan, I sent you a PM on RRL which you didn't read yet LOL, but actually even that info is outdated. Was just told yesterday that it wouldn't be out until after the first of the new year. :burningm:

Ivan Dan

11-24-2004, 01:25 PM

STV would know more, but I don't think so........still waiting.
Grab a Snickers, maybe that will help. :rollside:
I am gonna buy one for my dad for Xmas oh well guess it will have to be a b-day gift now.

Ivan Dan

11-24-2004, 01:26 PM

Ivan, I sent you a PM on RRL which you didn't read yet LOL, but actually even that info is outdated. Was just told yesterday that it wouldn't be out until after the first of the new year. :burningm:
Keith...RRL sends the message embedded in the e-mail so I read it that way. I was hoping to get it before Xmas for a gift for my dad but oh well. Thanks so much!