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OGShocker
03-05-2004, 09:09 AM
21 Steps to Be a Good Democrat
1. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-bidding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected high performance boat owners.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that the military, start wars.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying>drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal
20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.
21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
OK AZDon, how close is this?;)

Dave C
03-05-2004, 09:55 AM
funniest protest banner I have ever seen (mocking of course)
"Communism has only killed 100 million people, lets give it another chance"

91nordic29
03-05-2004, 10:04 AM
:p :p :p :p

058
03-05-2004, 10:07 AM
Thats spot on.....so good I printed it out to show to some of my more liberal friends....those that can read:D

Ducatista
03-05-2004, 11:02 AM
Yes, very good. Remember "vote Democrat, it's easier than working!":rolleyes:

summerlove
03-05-2004, 11:05 AM
and what about the republican christian right going after our protections of free speech? How do you defend the actions of the FCC and the Bush administration in their attempt to clean-up the "airwaves" after the super bowl wardrobe malfunction, or what ever they called it. Face it, the Bush Admin is going after anybody that doesn't care for his politics and that's why we're seeing radio and television shows all of a sudden being fined and shut down to "protect us" What a bunch of BS! If Bush and his Christian right don't like what they have to see and hear, then change the frigging station.
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!

Bense468
03-05-2004, 11:11 AM
I thought the 2nd Amendment was a constitutional right?

OGShocker
03-05-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by summerlove
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
Only the Constitutional rights they/you/democrats agree with.
It has been a long time since I got you this fired up...:D
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Truth hurts more then a baseball bat to the forehead.

058
03-05-2004, 11:30 AM
The FCC is stepping in because the industry cannot or will not police itself. Your right, we can change the channel or turn the dial but why do we need children listening to songs or rap about muthua ****ers, cop killers, booty lickers, ass****ers, dick suckers, wife beaters, asskickers, gangbangers and all the other wonderful lyrics that are spewed across the airwaves? The airwaves belong to everybody and not just the ones who want completly uncensored crap. IMO they are over the top and brought this down on themselves. I'm not for censorship either because this is one step closer to removing Limbaugh, Hannity and all the other conservitive talk show personalitys like the Democrats tried to do a few years ago. Bush going after anyone who doesn't care for his politics?....Indeed! The only constitutional rights the Democrats are fighting for are the ones that suit them. Remember the 2nd Ammendment? What gun grabbing Democrat supports that one?

MagicMtnDan
03-05-2004, 11:37 AM
This thread is GREAT!
21 Steps to Be A Good Democrat - great stuff!
And I love to see Democrats step on their you-know-what's trying to point out what's wrong with the country and President Bush all while exposing their hypocracy! (As in defending free speech but not the right to bear arms)

Dave C
03-05-2004, 11:43 AM
whats wrong with the FCC cleaning up the broadcast media?. There is not supposed to be smut and foul language on broadcast TV anyway. Never has been, never should be.
Leave that for cable.
what a bunch of knee jerk liberal propaganda BS...

honkey1
03-05-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by summerlove
and what about the republican christian right going after our protections of free speech? How do you defend the actions of the FCC and the Bush administration in their attempt to clean-up the "airwaves" after the super bowl wardrobe malfunction, or what ever they called it. Face it, the Bush Admin is going after anybody that doesn't care for his politics and that's why we're seeing radio and television shows all of a sudden being fined and shut down to "protect us" What a bunch of BS! If Bush and his Christian right don't like what they have to see and hear, then change the frigging station.
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
Free speech has nothing to do with cussing on the radio or showing a boob on prime time t.v. What you are saying is because I don't want to see a boob I don't have the right to watch a football game I should just change the channel. There is a place for uncensored television it's called cable and my kids can't watch that any time they want.

BUSTI
03-05-2004, 12:00 PM
Shocker,
How creative! Real funy I copied it and I am giving it to every lib i know!

OGShocker
03-05-2004, 12:05 PM
Think ***boat will make it a sticky?

summerlove
03-05-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by 058
The FCC is stepping in because the industry cannot or will not police itself. Your right, we can change the channel or turn the dial but why do we need children listening to songs or rap about muthua ****ers, cop killers, booty lickers, ass****ers, dick suckers, wife beaters, asskickers, gangbangers and all the other wonderful lyrics that are spewed across the airwaves? The airwaves belong to everybody and not just the ones who want completly uncensored crap. IMO they are over the top and brought this down on themselves. I'm not for censorship either because this is one step closer to removing Limbaugh, Hannity and all the other conservitive talk show personalitys like the Democrats tried to do a few years ago. Bush going after anyone who doesn't care for his politics?....Indeed! The only constitutional rights the Democrats are fighting for are the ones that suit them. Remember the 2nd Ammendment? What gun grabbing Democrat supports that one?
I could not agree with you more! I censure what I and my children listen to - we have the option of changing the channel or the radio station. I hate the "new" music that you so well described as much as anyone. Do they have a right to distribute it - youre damn right they do! I just don't have to listen to it. Remember the old Rolling Stones song, "Some Girls" - the line goes like this..."Black girls just want to get ****ed all night..." At the time that song was distributed, the radio blocked the "F" word from the song - now it's no big deal and I hear that song all the time on the radio.
What about the channel? How do I tell my kids that what is going on in there is "free speech" when it is not uncommon to see women with their tops off and radios blasting to the songs you described? I can't even go there on a weekend anymore - that is my way of changing the channel (pun intended). But I guarantee you, and we've discussed this before, if the City or any other agency came down and really enfioced noise and skin in the channel everyone on this board would crap their pants! Too much government regulation would be the cry - that's horseshit because you all know you hate government regulation, you constantly talk about it here, and now the govt is going to silence shows like Stern but oh no, that's cleaning up our airwaves. If yo don't like it, change the frigging channel!
And yes, MMD, I haven't been this fired up in awhile. Don't you see the hyposisy in this? ;)
Now, as a life long dem, I acknowledge I don't always agree with my party, and yes, at times i agree with components of the rep party. It does not make us bad people - we (everyone) just have different opinions. Neither right or wrong!

OGShocker
03-05-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
And yes, MMD, I haven't been this fired up in awhile. Don't you see the hyposisy in this? ;)
Now, as a life long dem, I acknowledge I don't always agree with my party, and yes, at times i agree with components of the rep party. It does not make us bad people - we (everyone) just have different opinions. Neither right or wrong!
They/you/Democrats are limiting our GOD given rights everyday.
Our boats are too loud.... Pass a LAW. Cost us money.
We leave tire marks in the Dunes, pass a law. CLOSE the DUNES
I would go on but, I do not think it will change your mind.:rolleyes:

SERIOUS ISSUES
03-05-2004, 12:52 PM
I would have changed the channel so my kid din't see a boob but they forgot to warn me. FINE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM. that is NOT for TV.
Who do you think you are. "change the channel".
YOU AND YOUR PARTY SUCK!!!!
BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT. I dont think it is possible:D

totenhosen
03-05-2004, 01:07 PM
Well what do you propose than about the indecent material on the internet? I'm sure there are some people who would find this site indecent. Let's ban it as well. Honestly I see it as the first step towards labeling everything that the powers at be don't agree with as indecent filth that should be censored.
Let's ban thong bikinis might be the next step!

SERIOUS ISSUES
03-05-2004, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by totenhosen
Well what do you propose than about the indecent material on the internet? I'm sure there are some people who would find this site indecent. Let's ban it as well. Honestly I see it as the first step towards labeling everything that the powers at be don't agree with as indecent filth that should be censored.
Let's ban thong bikinis might be the next step!
the differance is, we know what we are going to see on the internet, we know what we will see on HBO. If I am waching normal TV w/ my 9 year old son, I should not worry about when I need to cover his eyes or ears.
If I see a TV program and is say's adult content I can decide if my kid can see it or not.
dont get me wrong, I am not for Gov. controle on everything and I think people should be able to broadcast what ever. like howard stern. If he is on the air I know what to expect and may or may not change the station. But to say it is okay to pop a tit out on national TV is nothing short of BS.
thats like saying it is OK to be watching the Cosby's and old Bill say's F&ck you asshole. not what you would expect in a show like that and should not be tollerated.

Schiada76
03-05-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
and what about the republican christian right going after our protections of free speech? How do you defend the actions of the FCC and the Bush administration in their attempt to clean-up the "airwaves" after the super bowl wardrobe malfunction, or what ever they called it. Face it, the Bush Admin is going after anybody that doesn't care for his politics and that's why we're seeing radio and television shows all of a sudden being fined and shut down to "protect us" What a bunch of BS! If Bush and his Christian right don't like what they have to see and hear, then change the frigging station.
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
BBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Liberals don't fight for anything!!!!!!!! Unless you consider a gfag hitting you with a purse fighting!
Stalin was a "liberal" you imbecile!:D :D :D

totenhosen
03-05-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by SERIOUS ISSUES
the differance is, we know what we are going to see on the internet, we know what we will see on HBO. If I am waching normal TV w/ my 9 year old son, I should not worry about when I need to cover his eyes or ears.
If I see a TV program and is say's adult content I can decide if my kid can see it or not.
dont get me wrong, I am not for Gov. controle on everything and I think people should be able to broadcast what ever. like howard stern. If he is on the air I know what to expect and may or may not change the station. But to say it is okay to pop a tit out on national TV is nothing short of BS.
thats like saying it is OK to be watching the Cosby's and old Bill say's F&ck you asshole. not what you would expect in a show like that and should not be tollerated.
I never referred to janet. But can you tell me where one draws the line? A person may think Stern is indecent so we take him off the air. (Can anyone pinpoint what he has said or done that is indecent according to law) It's being based on a few select people's opinion. Like I said some people I sure are also of the opinion that thong bikini's are sick, body tight suits that Britney wears is sick etc.

1stepcloser
03-05-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by 058
The FCC is stepping in because the industry cannot or will not police itself. Your right, we can change the channel or turn the dial but why do we need children listening to songs or rap about muthua ****ers, cop killers, booty lickers, ass****ers, dick suckers, wife beaters, asskickers, gangbangers and all the other wonderful lyrics that are spewed across the airwaves? The airwaves belong to everybody and not just the ones who want completly uncensored crap. IMO they are over the top and brought this down on themselves. I'm not for censorship either because this is one step closer to removing Limbaugh, Hannity and all the other conservitive talk show personalitys like the Democrats tried to do a few years ago. Bush going after anyone who doesn't care for his politics?....Indeed! The only constitutional rights the Democrats are fighting for are the ones that suit them. Remember the 2nd Ammendment? What gun grabbing Democrat supports that one?
How did I become involved in this? :confused:

OGShocker
03-05-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by 1stepcloser
How did I become involved in this? :confused:
LMAO!!!

mickeyfinn
03-05-2004, 01:50 PM
Here is an argument that I have not heard made before:
The air waves that can be picked up by an atennae are "free" and as such available to everyone. Why should anything be prohibited just because one group or the other doesn't like it. Most televisions have the ability to only program in the channels they would like to watch. So lets lift any restrictions on what is available in this manner and if their are people who feel strongly enough that they want to insure that there is "no way, no how" that they want to have any thing objectionable in their home then let them pay for cable to "filter" the programming for them. Why make the majority of the people pay due to some people who complain. This doesn't apply to the superbowl incident since people had not been forewarned. Take all restrictions off, force broadcasters to introduce ratings standards and advertise what rating they are broadcasting. This will truly allow people to make the choice. Kind of like content filtering on the internet. If you want to insure that no way no how then you don't connect. If you want to be pretty sure then you pay for a service to filter. Or you trust your kids.

SERIOUS ISSUES
03-05-2004, 02:02 PM
what he said!
I agree, show what ever you want. You must warn the people that are waching (a rating system). I like a good porn now and then too. I just dont want a hooker drop to her knee's on Mr. Rogers whithout fair warning:D .
"But can you tell me where one draws the line?"
I like this line and feel it is fair for all people. this gives you the chance to change the channel. CALL CONGRESS WE JUST SOLVED THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEM:) .

summerlove
03-05-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by SERIOUS ISSUES
I would have changed the channel so my kid din't see a boob but they forgot to warn me. FINE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM. that is NOT for TV.
Who do you think you are. "change the channel".
YOU AND YOUR PARTY SUCK!!!!
BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT. I dont think it is possible:D
Well at least your screen name is correct, because you really do have a few of them! Go take your meds and calm down dude ;)
I didn't say it was OK for the boob to come out in the super bowl -but I was making the connection that that one incident is what brought us to where we are today wit the FCC! The christian right, Rush and Bush work real hard to continue to take away our rights. (Can you say Roe V Wade?)
And why do you say, "Who do you think you are. change the channel" What was that intelligent statement all about? I do have pre-teen girls at home and if somethig comes on TV that is not appropriate, your GD right I change the channel! By your own admission, and this quote is your's, not mine -- "I like this line and feel it is fair for all people. this gives you the chance to change the channel" so serious issues , I guess we do agree after all. Or did you forget you felt the same way but you hadn't figured it out yet?
Oh yea, one more thing - it's ok to not supervise your kid on the internet, because by your own admission, "the differance is, we know what we are going to see on the internet" - I guess you never get pop-ups that are of questionable content?
Yes, MMD, like I said, I don't always agree with the policies of either party, but I do fell more closely aligned to the D party. I do believe that we need to protect our natural resources for future generations to enjoy, but I am also very realistic and acknowledge I like to participate in many of the activities you mention - I just believe that a fair environmental balance needs to be acheived, but groups like the sierra club will never allow that to occur. And by the way, I was, at one time, a member of that group. I no now longer support them or their policies. IMHO, they have gone from preservationists to obstructionists and possible push the envelope towards environmental terrorism.
Luv You Guys!!! Man, I can't wait for this election to get into high gear...This is gonna be a fun ride! I really look forward to having a beer in the channel as some skank shows off her fat old boobs while Serious Issues cranks "cop killer" that my brains explode :D LOL Actually, I do look forward to that beer - I'll even buy!

Phil Deez Knutts
03-05-2004, 03:29 PM
The democrats suck, too bad they don't swallow....would have gotten rid of the evidence for ol' slick willy!!
Most dem's are republicans that don't wish to be associated with the far christian right.
Oh yah, and they want to find a support group to make them feel better for being baby killers.

summerlove
03-05-2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Phil Deez Knutts
Most dem's are republicans that don't wish to be associated with the far christian right.
Wow, now that's exactly what our party is all about! You figured it out Phildo! Good job. Now go and get that PHD (piled high and deeper) - you deserve it!

Phil Deez Knutts
03-05-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
Wow, now that's exactly what our party is all about! You figured it out Phildo! Good job. Now go and get that PHD (piled high and deeper) - you deserve it!
I didn't say that is what the Democrat party is about, I said most dem's.
But it is very true. No phd needed.
Oh yah, and they think banana scanners should make $20/hour and have full medical coverage for free.

summerlove
03-05-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Phil Deez Knutts
I didn't say that is what the Democrat party is about, I said most dem's.
But it is very true. No phd needed.
Oh yah, and they think banana scanners should make $20/hour and have full medical coverage for free.
we'll just have to agree to disagree.

OutCole'd
03-05-2004, 04:34 PM
I love how every Conservative Republican that post's in these political topics, knows what every Democrat thinks on every issue.
Just because you may lean towards one side more than the other, you are automatically a communist, anti american, liberal, asshole.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Give me a friggen brake.
Know I know why I try to stay away from the political topics, There is only one way to think around here, If you have a opinion of your own, you are wrong.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Phil Deez Knutts
03-05-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by OutCole'd
I love how every Conservative Republican that post's in these political topics, knows what every Democrat thinks on every issue.
Just because you may lean towards one side more than the other, you are automatically a communist, anti american, liberal, asshole.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Give me a friggen brake.
Know I know why I try to stay away from the political topics, There is only one way to think around here, If you have a opinion of your own, you are wrong.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
When I want your opinion - I will give it to you!!:D
Now shut your communist, anti american, liberal, asshole, give you a friggen brake pie hole!!:D

OutCole'd
03-05-2004, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Phil Deez Knutts
When I want your opinion - I will give it to you!!:D
Now shut your communist, anti american, liberal, asshole, give you a friggen brake pie hole!!:D
ok

OGShocker
03-06-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I have heard this from you before. I was hoping for new material from you....:rolleyes: :D
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Facts are like RAID for Democrats!

HM
03-06-2004, 02:17 PM
I love the no "right or wrong....just different opinions."
Get a back bone people!!! (most of which call themselves moderates)
Most democrats are highly intelligent poor people.
Most republicans are stupid rich people. (stupid by democrat measures....can't use spell check, can't conjugate verbs, and wouldn't know a manet if it bit them in the ass - that is manet not monet - f'n general education made me learn that).
During the first World War, a Chicago newspaper published a article in which Henry Ford was called "an ignorant rich man." Ford sued the paper for slander, and found himself on the witness stand as the paper's lawyers tried to prove Ford's ignorance. After several "history questions" Ford became tired and pointed his finger at the lawyer and said "If I should really want to answer the foolish questions you have just asked me, let me remind you that I have a row of electric buttons that I can push to summon to my aid men who can answer any question I desire to ask concerning the business to which I am devoting most of my efforts. Now will you kindly tell me why I should clutter up my mind with general knowledge for the purpose of answering questions, when I have men around me who can supply any knowledge I require?"
Ford surrounded him self with a "Master Mind" group that enabled him to become one of the wealthiest men in America.
So, who really are the stupid people? The people that can't use spell check that make bank, or the highly educated people who work for stupid rich people?
I am really glad that you guys can correctly spell the sentence "I am poor." Keep up the good work.....perhaps I can e-mail you my post for you to review and correct and then post it for me?
BTW - OG - your signature f'ing rocks!! :cool: And I have forwarded your original post to all my stupid rich friends;)

gnarley
03-06-2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by mickeyfinn
Here is an argument that I have not heard made before:
The air waves that can be picked up by an atennae are "free" and as such available to everyone.
Actually they are far from free, they are licensed by the FCC. ;)

AzDon
03-06-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by OGShocker
21 Steps to Be a Good Democrat
OK AZDon, how close is this?;)
I can't find one thing on your list that I agree with or believe, so I guess I don't live up to your definition of a Democrat. The only near hit was the implication that Bush is honest while Clinton is a liar and a pervert.... Nice try, but that's just partisan opinion, not a platform piece!

beer hunter
03-06-2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by OutCole'd
I love how every Conservative Republican that post's in these political topics, knows what every Democrat thinks on every issue.
Just because you may lean towards one side more than the other, you are automatically a communist, anti american, liberal, asshole.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Give me a friggen brake.
Know I know why I try to stay away from the political topics, There is only one way to think around here, If you have a opinion of your own, you are wrong.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Hey Bill, I like you no matter how wrong you are:D j/k :) Looking forward to hooking up with you at OP6C :) :) :)
Michael

OutCole'd
03-06-2004, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by OutCole'd
I love how every Conservative Republican that post's in these political topics, knows what every Democrat thinks on every issue.
Just because you may lean towards one side more than the other, you are automatically a communist, anti american, liberal, asshole.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Give me a friggen brake.
Now I know why I try to stay away from the political topics, There is only one way to think around here, If you have a opinion of your own, you are wrong.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

mickeyfinn
03-06-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by gnarley
Actually they are far from free, they are licensed by the FCC. ;)
Free to recieve.....

Jordy
03-07-2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by summerlove
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
You're kidding right? :confused: :rolleyes:
As far as airwaves and censorship, what is on the free air should have boundries that would be accepted by a "reasonable" person (whatever the hell that is). However, I'll pay my $12 per month to have Sirius and be totally uncensored and I know what to expect with it and have no problems. Then again, the only problem I had with the super bowl display is the fact that it was Janet and not Britney or Christina. ;) :D

Wicky
03-07-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Ducatista
Yes, very good. Remember "vote Democrat, it's easier than working!":rolleyes:
Now that is classic!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!! It is soooooo true though its almost not even funny!!:D :D :D

Wicky
03-07-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by summerlove
and what about the republican christian right going after our protections of free speech? How do you defend the actions of the FCC and the Bush administration in their attempt to clean-up the "airwaves" after the super bowl wardrobe malfunction, or what ever they called it. Face it, the Bush Admin is going after anybody that doesn't care for his politics and that's why we're seeing radio and television shows all of a sudden being fined and shut down to "protect us" What a bunch of BS! If Bush and his Christian right don't like what they have to see and hear, then change the frigging station.
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
If that were true, NPR would have been shut down a long time ago!!!! The FCC has always had the same rules. Nothing has changed. My Family owned a radio station and to get that FCC license you knew exactly what was allowed and not allowed.
The rules have been stretched all along. I don't feel the rules are right but, rules are rules. The rules can be changed. I hope this happens. I am a Republican. I love my fossil fuels. If your a Democrat, you belong on horseback or your own two feet. No boats, motorcycles, or snowmachines. Leather shoes not allowed either. Dont forget about the Labor Unions. Hypocrisy can only be so deep while wearing tall boots!!!
Let the fun begin.
Mow,
Wicky

OGShocker
03-10-2004, 03:09 PM
America, land of the Ashcroft-haters
Michelle Malkin (back to web version) | Send
March 10, 2004
Those oh-so-compassionate liberals could hardly contain their glee upon hearing the news that Attorney General John Ashcroft is suffering from a severe case of gallstone pancreatitis.
"He has it coming. He is utterly sub-human and evil. Suffer, bastard," gloated an Internet user on the DemocraticUnderground.com Web site. "(T)he world would be better off without him," responded another writer on the forum. "I hope he is in the most severe pain a human being can suffer, and after that, I hope he remains in constant pain with no hope of relief," chimed in yet another bleeding-heart Democrat. Out in Hollywood, comedian Bill Maher echoed these unsparing sentiments during his HBO talk show monologue, speculating that Ashcroft contracted his unimaginably painful and potentially deadly illness from "wiping his (expletive) with the Bill of Rights." The audience roared with laughter.
It is not the incivility of the Ashcroft-haters that galls me. It is the unmitigated insipidity and apathy they display toward what this man and his department have done to protect their right to be free, safe and stupid.
On the day he was admitted to the hospital last week, for example, Ashcroft was scheduled to speak at a Justice Department news conference. He was set to announce the convictions of three jihadists who trained in Virginia on behalf of the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LET), a Pakistani terrorist group. The defendants spun their usual "woe-is-me/Islam is a Religion of Peace/I'm an innocent victim of racial profiling" tales for their tearful relatives and a sympathetic media. But the Justice Department didn't buy their stories. And neither did U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema, a Clinton appointee, who blasted the terror cell members' cover stories for traveling abroad to wage holy war as "incredible" and "simply implausible."
Masoud Ahmad Khan, 32, of Gaithersburg, Md., was convicted on eight counts: conspiracy; conspiracy to levy war against the United States; providing support to the Taliban; conspiracy to provide support to LET; firearms conspiracy; and three counts of use of firearms in connection with a crime of violence.
Former Marine Seifullah Chapman, 32, of Alexandria, Va., was convicted of conspiring to provide material support to LET; conspiracy; firearms conspiracy; possession of firearms in connection with a crime of violence; and use of a firearm in connection with a crime of violence.
And Hammad Abdur-Raheem, 35, of Falls Church, Va., was convicted of conspiring to provide material support to LET; conspiracy; and firearms conspiracy.
(By the way, where are all the gun controllers to praise the Justice Department for pursuing strict enforcement of their laws? Hmm? They must be out to lunch with all the moderate Muslim leaders getting ready to praise Ashcroft for going after fanatical extremists who give their religion a bad name. Right?)
The media elite belittled the Ashcroft prosecutions of these Islamists because they practiced on a paintball field. But brushing off these warriors as "paintball terrorists" would be as irresponsible as shrugging off the Sept. 11 hijackers as "video game terrorists" because they trained for their murderous missions on flight simulator software. "For the defendants and their co-conspirators," Judge Brinkema wrote, "these games were viewed as not just an opportunity for outdoor exercise, fellowship and an opportunity to improve self-defense skills, but also as preparation for real combat."
Every single time Ashcroft has brought charges against jihadists in America, he has been mocked and vilified. Every single time he has tightened the screws on Islamic terror recruitment and financing, he has been lambasted as a racist. Every single time they have been arrested, the defendants have proclaimed their absolute innocence. And each time Ashcroft has won convictions against them -- neutralizing terror cells in Lackawanna, N.Y., Portland, Detroit, and now northern Virginia -- he has been met with more condemnation and derision.
John Ashcroft has nobly taken on the grueling job of protecting a nation of ingrates who take joy in his illness while terrorists continue to plot to kill us all. God bless you, Attorney General, and get well soon. America, land of the free and home of the thankless, needs you back.
©2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc.
Can you feel the love?

Scream
03-10-2004, 04:06 PM
John Ashcroft has nobly taken on the grueling job of protecting a nation of ingrates who take joy in his illness while terrorists continue to plot to kill us all. God bless you, Attorney General, and get well soon. America, land of the free and home of the thankless, needs you back.
Amen!
What kinda shit would the repubs take for wishin the same for Babs Boxer? I can only imagine.

HighRoller
03-10-2004, 04:38 PM
Just goes to show you: To the Democrats and liberals, he who stands up for justice and doing the right thing is the enemy. Why? Because the liberal constituency is full of law breakers, bums and rejects. Allowing such a "loose cannon" as Ashcroft to convict criminals cuts down on Democrat voter turnout! I prefer to vote Republican, along with other people who can think for themselves. Democrats have proven over time that they are willing to do whatever it takes, legal or not, to court voters who are felons, illegal immigrants, dead, housepets or who want to vote more than once! You can't listen to the mindless rhetoric spewed by idiots such as John Kerry. His latest statement during his campaign was definitely his best so far. He called Republicans a bunch of "crooked liars". Very articulate, John. You do remember you're running for the party that produced the most corrupt president in American history, right?

Dr. Eagle
03-10-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
Go ahead, dump on the dems' but remember, they at least fight for your constitutional rights!
Yes the Democrats do support constitutional rights, the GOVERNMENT's constitutional right to re-disrtibute wealth. The Federal Government's primary role is to protect the country from enemies foreign and domestic.

Schiada76
03-10-2004, 05:03 PM
Liberalism is truly a mental disorder. They wish another attack from mindless primitives on themselves and those around them.:mad: :mad:
I haven't seen any scumbag leftists trying to defend their "thinking" lately in this thread, what's the matter no facts to back up your "feelings"?:mad: :mad:

Dr. Eagle
03-10-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by HighRoller
Just goes to show you: To the Democrats and liberals, he who stands up for justice and doing the right thing is the enemy. Why? Because the liberal constituency is full of law breakers, bums and rejects. Allowing such a "loose cannon" as Ashcroft to convict criminals cuts down on Democrat voter turnout! I prefer to vote Republican, along with other people who can think for themselves. Democrats have proven over time that they are willing to do whatever it takes, legal or not, to court voters who are felons, illegal immigrants, dead, housepets or who want to vote more than once! You can't listen to the mindless rhetoric spewed by idiots such as John Kerry. His latest statement during his campaign was definitely his best so far. He called Republicans a bunch of "crooked liars". Very articulate, John. You do remember you're running for the party that produced the most corrupt president in American history, right?
Sorry dude, anything I read from you is in Cartmans voice in my head... it kills me!
Agree 100% BTW. Especially about the housepets...:D

OGShocker
03-11-2004, 03:54 PM
By LARRY NEUMEISTER
NEW YORK (AP) - A former journalist and one-time press secretary for four members of Congress was arrested Thursday on charges she served as a paid agent for the Iraqi intelligence service before and after the U.S. invasion.
Susan Lindauer, 41, was arrested in her hometown of Takoma Park, Md., and was to appear in court later in the day in Baltimore, authorities in New York said.
She was accused of conspiring to act as a spy for the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions involving the government of Iraq under dictator Saddam Hussein. Prosecutors say she accepted $10,000 for he work.
"I'm an anti-war activist and I'm innocent," Lindauer told WBAL-TV as she was led to a car outside the Baltimore FBI office. "I did more to stop terrorism in this country than anybody else. I have done good things for this country. I worked to get weapons inspectors back to Iraq when everyone else said it was impossible. I'm very proud and I'll stand by my achievements."
Lindauer worked at Fortune, U.S. News & World Report and the Seattle Post-Intelligencer before beginning her career as a political publicist.
She worked for Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore. in 1993 and then Rep. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., in 1994 before joining the office of former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun as press secretary in 1996. From March to May 2002, she worked for Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif.
"Her position was eliminated in the downsizing following the 1994 elections," said Josh Kardon, chief of staff for now-Sen. Wyden. "She worked for us a short period of time."
Braun's current spokesperson, Loretta Kane, said the former senator does not remember Lindauer.
According to an indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Lindauer made multiple visits from October 1999 through March 2002 to the Iraqi Mission to the United Nations in Manhattan. The indictment makes no mention of her congressional staff work.
There, she met with several members of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the foreign intelligence arm of the government of Iraq that allegedly has played a role in terrorist operations, including an attempted assassination of former President George H.W. Bush, the indictment alleged.
The government said she accepted payments from the Iraqis for her services and expenses amounting to a total of $10,000, including $5,000 she received during a trip to Baghdad in February and March 2002.
Her acceptance of the money and her willingness to bring it home from Iraq violated a law prohibiting transactions with a government that sponsors international terrorism, the government said. The indictment did not specify a motive.
The charges against Lindauer were included in an expanded indictment in the case against Raed Rokan Al-Anbuge, 28, and Wisam Noman Al-Anbuke, the sons of Iraq's former liaison with United Nations weapons inspectors.
The brothers were charged last year with acting as Iraqi government agents and conspiring to do so, prosecutors said. The indictment said Lindauer conspired with the brothers.
On Jan. 8, 2003, prosecutors said, Lindauer tried to influence U.S. foreign policy by delivering to the home of a U.S. government official a letter in which she conveyed her access to and contacts with members of Saddam's regime. The official was not identified in the indictment.
The United States invaded Iraq in March of last year, and the government fell the following month.
The indictment said she met on two occasions in Baltimore in June and July with an undercover FBI agent who posed as a Libyan intelligence representative who was seeking to support resistance groups in postwar Iraq. It said she discussed the need for plans and foreign resources to support these groups.
According to the indictment, she continued to correspond with the undercover agent until last month and followed the agent's instructions to leave packages on two occasions in August in "dead drop" operations.
Lindauer, who was not immediately assigned a defense lawyer, faces up to 10 years in prison on the most serious charge and five years on the lesser charge if she is convicted, prosecutors said.
More than a half dozen FBI agents could be seen searching Lindauer's residence in Takoma Park, a city known for its liberal views. Her neighbors recalled her as friendly.
Joao Luiz Vieire de Castro, 39, described Lindauer as "a regular American who walks her dog in the mornings and the afternoon."
"It's a big surprise. Who would think that it's (espionage) in your neighborhood?" said Dean Paris, 45, who sometimes greeted Lindauer on the street, which is less than a mile from the District of Columbia line. Paris said he never saw anything suspicious.
But Malvina Lacey, who lives next door to Lindauer, added, "She lives in a fantasy world."
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Associated Press writer Derrill Holly in Takoma Park, Md., contributed to this story.