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welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:35 AM
How do you release the trailer brakes on an Extreme trailer so you can back it up hill? I need to get in the driveway because I am hanging out in the street.

jbtrailerjim
04-09-2004, 11:39 AM
Your truck either need's to be wired to activate the brake solenoid's when your in reverse or you need one of those lock out key's that lock's your brake actuator. If you bought your trailer new it should have come with one of those key's.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:40 AM
My trailer was new, but no key! Damn, that would help if I got what I needed.

Mrs. Bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 11:41 AM
We had this same problem, Mr. Bordsmnj is on his way home and will post how to fix it.
BTW, you still need bookkeeping help? :)

welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the help and yea I do need the books done pretty soon.

Mrs. Bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 11:48 AM
I was just on the phone with Jason and thought maybe he could walk me thru it but its all technical and stuff. He said to tell you he will help as soon as he gets home, if you don't handle it by then.
And lets get talk soon about your books. Whenever you want, next week maybe??:D

welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:52 AM
Sounds good. Lets talk in two weeks. Going to the Lake for a week next week.http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_17_206.gif ('http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008')

OGShocker
04-09-2004, 11:53 AM
Take a 3/4 inch piece of plywood 9" by 10". Cut a U shape out of it slightly bigger than the tounge before the trailer starts. Slip the wood over the tounge, this will block the brake and stop the lock-up problem

Kahuna
04-09-2004, 11:58 AM
If you have a four wire instead of five wire you can fool the brakes by connecting the blue wire to the brown. You just slide the male into the female of the five and four plugs.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:58 AM
Not sure I understand OG.:frown:

welk2party
04-09-2004, 11:59 AM
5 wire.

THOR
04-09-2004, 12:17 PM
you need the 5 wire plug. Reason being, the 5th wire connects to your reverse lights and de-activates the brake. When you are backing up the trailer's solenoid engages and thinks you are stopping thus activating the brakes. Go down to the auto parts store and buy the 5-wire plug and reconnect that way.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:18 PM
I have the 5 wire plug.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:19 PM
My trailer requires 5 wire is what I should say.

Kahuna
04-09-2004, 12:20 PM
On my trailer it has a five wire flat plug, the fifth wire connects to your reverse lights. So when you put you car in reverse it send a signal to the surge brakes to release and let you backup the trailer. You are fooling the surge brakes by sending them the signal from your running lights. Also I forgot to mention for this to work you have to have your lights on for your car. I had my truck four wire changed to a five wire.

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:22 PM
five pin trialer hook ups only work in five pick truck hook ups- the 7 to 5 pin adapters don't work. what those do is make your brakes not work at all when there s'posed to and work when they're not. reason being those are for trialers with electric brakes not surge brakes. as Kahuna said the fifth wire(blue) is normaly tapped into the reverse lights and that activates a solinoid wich keeps the brakes from activating. so a jumper from the blue to the running lightsbrowm and be acomplished with a skinny drywall screw. loosen the plug a little get the screw sideways between the two leads and push the connecter in as far as it will go.turn your lights on then back up. should work. do you have the five pin terminal on your truck?

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:23 PM
Kahuna beat me to it:yuk: :D
oh, and the drywall screw jumper is for the inline plug config-not the round one.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:24 PM
I have the plug in adapter that goes round to the flat 5 pin.

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:26 PM
wich side has the round part- truck side or trialer side?.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:28 PM
The truck side. Adapter between the truck and the trailer.

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:30 PM
and does it have five pins total?

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:31 PM
Yes it do!

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:33 PM
have a continuity tester? if not can you drive the whole she bang to garden grove for a once and for all fixing?

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:35 PM
Sounds like something is amiss?
I can go to G.G. for a fix. Is it complicated?

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:37 PM
No. a good electrician lives here and it'll cost about ten bucks or so for parts. but it can be done in about an hour.

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:40 PM
Cool! Whenever is convenient. I am leaving for the Havasu on Wed.

bordsmnj
04-09-2004, 12:44 PM
i was thinking like right now. from huntington come srtaight up Beach past the 22frwy turn left on Lampson godown to just before RR tracksturn right on Santa rosalia st. go down ten houses on honk. boats in the drive way can't miss it. are yuh on your way?

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:46 PM
Check your PM!

welk2party
04-09-2004, 12:47 PM
Yeah I will come by!

dimarcobros
04-09-2004, 12:48 PM
Just flip the adaptor so that one is left with no plug, that will release the breaks for the time being. Just make sure you flip it back before you drive off.
DMB

Pointerman
04-09-2004, 01:12 PM
I have an Eagle trailer with the same issue, but my tongue has a place where I can take the safety pin and put it in there to prevent the brakes from applying. I haven't rewired my truck harness yet, so I just put the pin in the brake hold when I launch.

Tom Brown
04-09-2004, 01:14 PM
W2P, have you tried flooring it?

clownpuncher
04-09-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by welk2party
How do you release the trailer brakes on an Extreme trailer so you can back it up hill? I need to get in the driveway because I am hanging out in the street.
I have the same deal. I just put a nut, about 3/4 " OD, in the slot on the side of the tongue. Hold it in with a peice of tape and back er up. This keeps the brakes from activating while backing up a hill. I keep the nut in my ashtry at all times. Piece o cake
BUT, ya gotta remember to pull the nut when on the road, otherwise, no brakes.

jbtrailerjim
04-09-2004, 01:25 PM
Since most truck's come with a 7-way now; couldn't you just go down and buy a round 7-way and just rewire the the trailer plug itself, so you don't have to mess w/adapters or the lock out pin? If so, that's what I'm going to do. That way I don't have to mess with the lock out pin.

Pointerman
04-09-2004, 01:26 PM
New trucks come with the 7 way blank. You then just purchase the 7 to 5 adapter and you are good to go. My 1994 Chevy doesn't have this, so it is all about rewiring.

jbtrailerjim
04-09-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Pointerman
New trucks come with the 7 way blank. You then just purchase the 7 to 5 adapter and you are good to go. My 1994 Chevy doesn't have this, so it is all about rewiring.
I have the round 7-way on my Ford. I bought a 7-way round to 5-way flat adapter, and it did not work

rrrr
04-09-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by jbtrailerjim
I have the round 7-way on my Ford. I bought a 7-way round to 5-way flat adapter, and it did not work
Huh. Mine did. Center pin on the 7 is the reverse lights.

Scream
04-09-2004, 06:29 PM
The had to install a new relay under the hood of my Navigator to acitivate the brake/release when I bought my boat. That maybe all that's necessary.

Dr. Eagle
04-09-2004, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Scream
The had to install a new relay under the hood of my Navigator to acitivate the brake/release when I bought my boat. That maybe all that's necessary.
I think you just need to figure out which pin is the back up lights and get a meter and check that you have voltage going to the trailer. My Eliminator with the Extreme didn't work at first, I found that I had a fuse blown on the trailer wiring. The backup lights worked but the trailer harness didn't have any voltage. Just a blown fuse...

Scream
04-09-2004, 07:14 PM
Actually, the relay thingy under the hood was a pretty quick fix. Plug and play really. I go for the easy fix. I don't necessarily like machanicin, although if there's beer involved I'm all over it.

Dr. Eagle
04-09-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Scream
Actually, the relay thingy under the hood was a pretty quick fix. Plug and play really. I go for the easy fix. I don't necessarily like machanicin, although if there's beer involved I'm all over it. ]
I am with you on the Mechanicin, but it depends on the vehicle. The new wiring harnesses on the new chevys for instance has a fairly sophisticated trailer wiring system. It isolates the trailer plug from the systems on the truck so it doesn't cause lights to quit working on the truck.
But the relay thingee would work great, if you know how to wire it. I know how too, but if I don't have to, I don't want to...:rolleyes: :confused: Well, I think I know what I mean...:confused: :D

Scream
04-09-2004, 07:36 PM
Exactly

dicudmore
04-09-2004, 07:47 PM
the newer chevy trucks are good to go on that 7 round to 5 flat adapter dealio. reverse=no brakes thing works fine.
fords you have to do the hook up to the running lights or whatever type of deal you were plotting.

Scream
04-09-2004, 08:11 PM
It's actually all there in the Navi, but they just were saving the $3.00 on the little relay gizmo. Hey, whatya want for 43 large?