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So question. how many of those who dont believe in man caused global warming and debunk it saying man could never cause this dont believe in evolution and that the earth is only 5000 years old and god put the fossils there and Jesus was around the same time as the dinosours?
how many?
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We are still going to the lake in Oklahoma
74 degrees today.
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How come nobody has been noticing "Global Cooling" up until the industrial age?
I don't think that CFC's are great for the ozone layer, but I don't buy the impact that humans are having on the whole deal.
Algae blooms produce a hell of a lot more oxygen than the rain forest as an example. The ocean is our greatest ecological resource and we haven't scratched the surface on it's ability to "cure" the environment.
It was noted, then verified that the hippies that burned the H2 a while back put more contaminants and particles into the atmosphere than the entire fleet of H2's had collectively contributed to that point. Well done folks... great job. Very compelling...
The damage being done to the earth by the lithium mining required to build a hybrid car's battery is amazing, and much of it is being done in different countries without any of our regulations. Tell me again how much better off the planet is driving one of these rigs?
Well put! While I am all for trying to reduce waste in areas that make sense (conserve electricity & Water, reduce waste, reuse, recycle, ect.) but the mass hysteria BS is driving me crazy. Most people who are up in arms about it are just sponging up all the hype that is feed into mainstream media. We have only been able to make a detailed record of the earths paterns for the last couple of thousand years or so, beond that we have no real record only a hypothesis, or a S.W.A.G. to what the natural cycles of the earth are.
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Well put! While I am all for trying to reduce waste in areas that make sense (conserve electricity & Water, reduce waste, reuse, recycle, ect.) but the mass hysteria BS is driving me crazy. Most people who are up in arms about it are just sponging up all the hype that is feed into mainstream media. We have only been able to make a detailed record of the earths paterns for the last couple of thousand years or so, beond that we have no real record only a hypothesis, or a S.W.A.G. to what the natural cycles of the earth are.
Thats not true, the artic glaceirs hold a detailed record of air quality and air composition. As well as relative anual temperature. they take core samples and can determine all of that info just like reading the rings on a tree.
some antartic Glaceirs date back 13.6 ~15 million years ago
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Thats not true, the artic glaceirs hold a detailed record of air quality and air composition. As well as relative anual temperature. they take core samples and can determine all of that info just like reading the rings on a tree.
I wonder if they have done a "study" to find out how much affect having exploration drilling into the glaceirs has sped up the warming process...:idea:
The world changes at it ages, forests become pretrafied, oceans become deserts, mountians become valleys, time has a way of ensuring these things will happen without human interaction. Before you know it they will be panicing about the next Ice Age, are you denying that took place:confused: Put some shorts on and enjoy the sun (before the gases all burn itself out):eek: ;)
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1950s: Geophysicist Roger Revelle, with the help of Hans Suess, demonstrated that carbon dioxide levels in the air had increased as a result of the use of fossil fuels.
You know, I can't help but wonder if Hans was a doctor??? :idea:
I have a very hard time buying into this idea when the head cheerleader for it (Al Gore, who invented the very internet we're typing on now) is such a complete hypocrite. Looking forward to the book that critiques his points from An Inconvient Bunch Of Bullshit, I mean Truth, point by point. Think it's hitting stores very soon. :notam:
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I wonder if they have done a "study" to find out how much affect having exploration drilling into the glaceirs has sped up the warming process...:idea:
The world changes at it ages, forests become pretrafied, oceans become deserts, mountians become valleys, time has a way of ensuring these things will happen without human interaction. Before you know it they will be panicing about the next Ice Age, are you denying that took place:confused: Put some shorts on and enjoy the sun (before the gases all burn itself out):eek: ;)
I doubt an electric drill and corer causes to much global warming but i am sure the snow cats they use sure kick out some nasty exhaust. However in order to study these things you must do what you must. I am sure if they had an alternative to get out there effectively they would do so.
picture of a core sample.
http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/ima...02_img0269.jpg
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You know, I can't help but wonder if Hans was a doctor??? :idea:
I have a very hard time buying into this idea when the head cheerleader for it (Al Gore, who invented the very internet we're typing on now) is such a complete hypocrite. Looking forward to the book that critiques his points from An Inconvient Bunch Of Bullshit, I mean Truth, point by point. Think it's hitting stores very soon. :notam:
Screw gore and everyother politician who makes this their pet project. its not about politics. read the scientific journals. make up your own oppinion. any one that says well the dems said it was true there for it must or says Gore says its true so it must be a lie is a uneducated moron. Do your own research form your own oppinions.
Show me scientific proof that im wrong and i am happy to look over it.. and if im wrong them im wrong but dont just vote party lines on this kind of issue.
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BTW Gore is not the head cheerleader he just made a movie and is known by most americans so he makes the news.
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(Al Gore, who invented the very internet we're typing on now) :notam:
As a matter of fact he had a large part to play in creating the internet. read below.
Main article: Al Gore's contributions to the Internet and technology
Gore at the Ansari X Prize Executive Summit, October 19, 2006Al Gore was involved in the development and mainstreaming of the Internet as both Senator and Vice-President. Campbell-Kelly and Aspray note in Chapter 12 of their 1996 text, Computer: A History of the Information Machine, that up until the early 1990s, public usage of the Internet was limited. They continue to state that the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had exercised Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s" leading him to develop legislation that would alleviate this problem.[85] Gore thus began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 which was passed on December 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII)[86] which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway".
In 1999, various media outlets suggested that Gore claimed that he "invented the Internet"[87][88] in reference to a CNN interview in which he said, "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."[89]
In response to this controversy, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn wrote a 2000-09-29 article (originally sent via email) that described Gore's contributions to the Internet since the 1970s, including his work on the Gore Bill:[90]
"[A]s the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept."
Gore has been a member of the board of directors of Apple Inc. since 2003 and serves as a Senior Advisor to Google Inc.[91]
On 6 June 2005, Gore was awarded the Lifetime Achievement Award "for three decades of contributions to the Internet" at The Webby Awards. In giving him the award, Tiffany Shlain (the awards' founder and chairwoman) stated that she "wanted to set the record straight [...] it's just one of those instances someone did amazing work for three decades as Congressman, Senator and Vice President and it got spun around into this political mess."[92] Gore, during his acceptance speech (limited to five words according to Webby Awards rules), joked: "Please don't recount this vote".[93]